RIP WOW

thats not wow, thats just shit

I hope this fuckin petition for the return of vanilla server gonna work

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To put it in perspective...

WoW in 2004-2008 (before WOTLK fixed most of the retarded design decisions of the WoW team):
- Exclusively tank & spank boss design (sometimes with a small twist in TBC)
- Half the specs not viable
- Autistic grind for gear
- Massive amounts of time wasted on travel because no RDF (or flying mounts pre BC)
- Tutorial parts of the game (leveling) took literally weeks so you could get to the relevant parts of the game
- No balance in PVP - Vanilla didn't even have arena yet some classes managed to be completely worthless in PVP, and TBC arena is unarguably the worst state competitive PVP has ever been in
- Fucking boring as hell quest design - nigga you really expect be to read all dis flavor text shit?
- Boring-ass classes with 1 button "rotations" any retard could play successfully
- Stupid as hell itemization with spirit one every item and agility on plate, what the fuck were they thinking?

Vanilla babbys are truly the worst.

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>>680801095
>Fire mage
>chaud

>>680801095
People are dumber than before, what did you expect ?

>>680802854
>WoD babby who's never played vanilla in a nutshell

I'm new to wow, can somebody tell me what's so different from before for real?

>>680802854
faggot don't know how to greentext

>>680801095
So move on you faggot, or just keep paying them while you cry on the forums.

>>680803357
its gayer

>>680801095
I've been vomiting pretty much ever since cataclysm

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>>680803357

>>680803512
I didn't mind Cataclysm too much, but I crossed the line at MoP, and have not returned since.

>>680802854
>tutorial takes weeks
Maybe if you're pants shittingly retarded

>>680802854
The fact that you call the leveling part a tutorial makes me sad. My first leveling experiance was fun as fuck even with grindy quests. Cant imagine how fast i would uninstall this shit now that every fag is running around in heirlooms ruining every dungen right from the start

>>680803707
>heirlooms

THIS.

I hate that fucking bullshit. Every dungeon has become crap.

>>680803636
This. I was on my way out the door with Cata, but MoP was the final straw (and it's only gotten worse since then). The game is pure garbage and I sincerely don't understand how anyone can stand to play it, let alone pay a monthly subscription for it.

>>680801095
Reported for breaking NDA

>>680803600
This was truly the best time in WoW. Not Vanilla, not Wotlk, but burning crusade.

>>680804042
>People leaking gameplay footage and you're crying over a screenshot

>>680804282
>not knowing blizzard watermarks screenshots with various identifing incase you do as op did
Videos dont

>>680804007
From what I've seen with Legion it could be a good expansion, but that's what I said when WoD came out, and Blizz scrapped a fuck ton of shit they said they would release.

>>680804257
Wotlk was pretty good
Expanded map, flying shit, and not too many over all game changes. It was an expansion that was soley for the purpose of a cool story
Also death knights

>>680801095
Looks nice. Abit dimmed down but it's compact and nice instead of numbers everywhere that didn't even need to be there
>9% haste tho
You gonna die before you even finish the spell

>>680804423
>Literally has his name
No need for a watermark.

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>>680804423
>Videos dont

>>680804437
the only way they would get me to touch that game again would be with a deal for overwatch like they did with D3 back then.

>>680804437
>login legion
>given weapon you will use ALL of the expansion,never getting any new weapons.
This is retarded,new weapons was one of the most rewarding peice from raids

TBC>WOTLK>VANILLA>REST>MOP

Shit is basically baby mode, I came back and played a little WoD a few months back
So trash, got to level 20 in my first day,pvp sucked balls, it was down to being a fucking moba, and dungeons were pretty much shit

>>680801095

It all went to shit after Cata tbh.

>>680802854
You realize leveling was a core part of the game, right? WoW is a journey, in some way raiding in level 60 is basically the same as at level 30. The journey goes from being level 1 to end-game tuned and completed all dungeons. Whoever decided that leveling shouldn't be a part of the game is hands down retarded.

>>680804647
>>give weapon you and everyone else will use

that shit would look like some other weapon faster than you can say Transmogrification

>>680804423
not know that 4chan strips everything because people were showing up to females homes

>>680804926
This.
If you played with friends especially, it was always a matter of adventure and teamwork. What cool places would this quest take us? What cool shit can we kill? Who will level up first?

>>680804703
>>680803707
>>680803950

>having to level to 100
>takes 2 months
>people lose interest as it takes 2 months to get up to level 100,and then you have to get gear
>Notion of alts is destroyed
>Not having viable raid clases because it takes 2 months to level
>everyone leaves
>LF Priest <raid>
>15 hours later
>LF Priest <raid>

Dungeons are made for quick leveling,throwing 5 levels per dungeon with quests.

>>680804926
This. Leveling characters was always fun for me. I loved the unique questlines and I really enjoyed being able to choose from multiple areas to quest in at almost any level.

>>680805058
>inb4 i still cant pronounce it
:sadface:

>>680805059
>not realizing it is hard encoded,not exit
Such as stegonograpy within the file
Striping wont do shit

>>680804471

DKs were so OP in Wotlk (even in Cata)

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>>680804926
>literally nobody ran low level dungeons before RDF was introduced
Vanilla babbies will defend THIS

>>680805058
>Cant transmog legandary wepons

is this a legit screenshot? did they really dumb it down even further?

>>680801095
Whats that banana item¿

LF Rogue with glyphed lockpick BRD PST

>>680805383
From what I've seen, this is exactly what it looks like now.

Im just going to play demon hunter and probly quite after 2 months.

>>680805622
Eyup

>>680805568
holy shit that is retarded AF

>>680805622
why even support this bullshit, just play a friends acct or something

Did someone say [Thunderfury, Blessed blade of the Windseeker]?

>>680805162
>>having to level to lvl 60
>>probably took half a year the first time, because
>>people keept playing because they where immersed in a world and felt a sense of progression with every level
>>Not having viable raid classes because it takes ages to level
>>planning for weeks to get a 40 man raidgrp
>>people form actual bonds and guilds that ment something
>>raidlead is connected as fuck and invites some dude from some other guild
>>wipes, even more wipes. see you next week

>>680805796
>>680805796

this.. this is what made vanilla wow awesome!

>>680805724
>friends account
None of my friends play wow anymore,we quit when hellfire came out and the bosses were fucking retardedly easily till archimonde.what ever teir below mythic was

Can someone tell me some good MMOs?

>>680805796
>Leveling to 60 is 40 levels less then 100
>Wanting to get more people to play your game,so that there are more people that you can raid with
Are you this dense?

>getting to level 58 and completed all the quests avalible
>sit in one area and grind all fucking day,for weeks
>have out of combat healers for res's
I played vanilla

>>680803046

no they are not. and that is the problem. Blizzard think everyone is retarded. but infact people are now way more used to games with great depth.

People now know how to min / max etc. in vanilla wow people used wasd to turn around and mouse click attacks.


Anyway it makes no sense how blizzard tries to dumb down the game so much since people really do not need it to be simplified. it was needed more back when wow released in 2004. lol

fail devs.

>>680805973


mmo's are at an all time low right now.

But probably WoW as a there park mmo. and black desert online as a sandbox mmo.

>>680806319

theme*

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really sad where the game has gone. Never big on pve but the pvp has gotten so boring.

>>680806319
This. Ever since the death of WoW, I really haven't found a single MMORPG worth playing. RIFT was moderately OK for a while, but the endgame was fucking awful so I didn't stick with it.

>>680806191
Activsion ruined blizzard.
They want 12m subscriptions like they had in wotlk
And by forcing blizzard to make these changes,they raped the subs down to 2m last i remember,wod surged to 4m but quickly went back to 2m because the content just wants interesting enough

>>680801095
honestly don't see the problem. dumb spreadsheet nerds

>>680803950
I managed to go from 90-100 in 40 min.. Thats how shitty wow has become.

>>680806748
Not on your main.You gotta do all the garrison shit to get the xp potion

>>680805766
Did someone say [Thunderfury, Blessed blade of the Windseeker]?

>>680806636
what are you even talking about? where are you getting your information on 2million? The last time they released sub numbers it was at 5 million.

>>680805252
>stenography fingerprinting
>from blizzard
>the company who regularly has compromised accounts
>that took years to implement IP fingerprinting

2/10 for making me reply

>>680804257
My nigga

>>680807349
http://www.techspot.com/news/50117-world-of-warcraft-secretly-embeds-user-data-in-screenshots.html

>>680805290
Before blizzard ruined the community with cross server RDF bullshit there was a global LFG channel. I never had any trouble finding a dungeon group while leveling using that channel

>>680807514
watermarking != stenography

>>680807783
Who knows they arent also doing that?
Not like you can tell via the quality

>>680804926
>You realize leveling was a core part of the game, right? WoW is a journey, in some way raiding in level 60 is basically the same as at level 30. The journey goes from being level 1 to end-game tuned and completed all dungeons. Whoever decided that leveling shouldn't be a part of the game is hands down retarded.

The only people who thought this way in 2004 were children and stay-at-home moms who had never played an MMO before.

Leveling was always a tedious grind that existed purely to milk as much subscription money out of scrubs as humanly possible.

I can only speak for myself, but I have never played a game like this for the purpose of exploring it's world and going on adventures. The world is static and the quests are painfully transparent busywork. If I wanted a game that felt immersive and exciting I'd play a single player or small scale co-op game that had stuff like freedom of choice when interacting with NPCs and the world around me and, oh I don't know, fucking collision detection.

>>680807971
>I can only speak for myself, but I have never played a game like this for the purpose of exploring it's world and going on adventures
As you said, you can only speak for yourself. I suggest you look up Bartle's player type theory, which explains the motivations of different types of players of MUDs and MMOs in a pretty general manner.

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Speaking of which, anyone wanna play WoW with a faggot wearing this today?

Started playing recently and have no friends

rip

>>680807952
or they are logging every entry, kill, chat log like a normal company would and just searching their master list from details from the screenshot. Their advanced methods are a cover-up for them just tracking the shit out of everything.

>>680808370
Good boy.

>>680808348

I'm familiar with it but I don't fit a type, I seek what suits me based on my mood and the game in question. My point is that there are infinitely better games to explore and adventure in than an MMO with an onslaught of cookie-cutter quests, little to no interaction with the world or the people in it, and a facerolling combat system.

Some people like to take a 4x4 off-roading, some people like to take a finely tuned sports car to a racetrack, but if you're taking a 4x4 to the racetrack and having a blast, odds are it's because you just don't know any better.

I quit wow in mop when i get a 3 day ban for killing people flagged as pvp in the world.
There was a group of people,most likely scrubs who i was following across the leveling zones(i was the same lever range as them).
I mean like wtf, is world people not allowed?
When i leveled if i was pvp flagged it was an all out battle leveling, a rush of adrenelne walking around the zone,waiting to get ganked or to rap e some wanna be. Totally casual enforced

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Feenix was good when it was still alive. Vanilla had sense of community.

>you will never summon boss in av

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Current wow is just easymode for kids.

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Wpvp was the best part of vanilla. Never got bans.

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I won mount by winning last man standing event at gurubashi. Elemental shaman with bis naxx gear is pretty funny in vanilla pvp. 1vsx was no problem.

>>680809159
so is that a yes?

>>680803022
Chaud is hot in french, what are you saying?

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40man naxx was the best

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Typical day in IF AH when server was still alive.

>zg plauge
>stay out of every city for days.

>>680810246
Holy shit I knew that guy too. I was on ner'zhul for a long ass time

>>680806191
>Pandering to casuals

>>680810524
I remember playing on my piece of shit laptop hearing it grind and lag like crazy.

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>>680811599
True. You needed good pc specially for Thaddius. Chain lightning caused server crashes at some point when multiple guilds were trying to kill him.

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4hm was the best. I really enjoyed it but our guild broke apart when we didnt have 8 tanks anymore because we were small national guild. Got horde first 14/15 when KT was still unkillable.

>>680812570
heigan was best. and patchwork.

>>680812570
that chat

"...if you are not racist or muslim or gay you can join"

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>>680812703
Haha I loved heigan. There was usually less than 20ppl alive at the end, most actually died in the tunnel and not during dance except retards who couldnt move.

PW was fun as fire mage because vanilla had old rolling ignites which would stack so just one mage would get all dmg(and threat). Crazy ignite ticks could continue for minutes, but usually threat cap forced us to drop ignite and pass it to somebody else.

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Post more screenshots, make me feel young again!

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>>680812869
Feenix was good because names or chat werent moderated unless you advertised other projects. You could name your char "freebreivik" or something else really offensive and nothing would happen. World chat was often legendary. It was really the wild west.

>>680808370
sure i will battle tag?

Kaamos reporting in.

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>>680813660
I have hundreds of screenshots. I keep dumping them.

>>680810354
maybe he was thinking of Chad, the douchiest name of all time. Wouldn't expect french to sound any different,,

you mean i won't be able to see how much strength i have on my mage?

oh no

>>680813960

ex-puhelinmyyjä spotatttu

Shaamu you Finnish piece of Feenixlover, how are ya?
#WarsongForever

>>680803600
nice binds shitter

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>>680814205
Puhelinmyyjä? :D

>>680813880
Kaamos <3

I loved brm pvp even back in retail vanilla. Used to mindcontrol people into lava from shadowmeld with my NE priest.

>>680813862
Ageia#1261

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RIP Nostalrius

Vanilla Wow is awesome

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>>680814249

Hi there. I didnt go for nosta(rip) because 1x levelling is such pain and GTA online > wow

I still miss the good old times on feenix :(

>>680814573
what does a vanilla world of warcraft player like yourself play these days?
i assume you dont play retail still

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Feenix at 2016, ripperonis

>>680802854
FUCKING. THIS.

Dickheads wearing nostalgia goggles needtofuckright off. The ONLY reason WoW was"awesome" back in the day was because it was NEW. There was NOTHING that came close to grabbing you even close to it(EQ fags can fuck off). Back then EVERYTHING was new. EVERYTHING. I don't worry about these cunts gettinglegacy servers though, their cause is led by a PROVEN liar and idiot in Mark Kern and a silly littlespoitl fuckboi calle Chance Morris. Got to admire that Sodapoppin queer tho, he milks you dumb cunts for 1000s of $ a day WHEN HE IS ALREADY A SPOILT RICH KID due to his families money. And don't get me started on the rich kid black retard Nick, that cunt is an out and out leech and that utterly retarded skank GF of Sodas with her anorexic legs, canoe-sized feet, huge nose and terrible skin. Holy shit what a shit show.

>inb4 PYAH fags appear.

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>>680808370
Anyone?

>>680812570
This is from a private server isn't it. Shivtr (mentioned in the chat) didn't even exist before like 2011.

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Feenix is dead. Patch 2.0 killed the server. People farmed their easy R14 weapons and pve was pointless. IF has lvl ?? elites now and mobs have TBC health.

I was on nosta when it closed down. It made me feel sad even tho I didnt have high lvl char there.

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>>680813326
>feenix

>>680814864

Is there any Nostalrius like server? I want to get back into vanilla

>>680815691
Feenix, warsong server.

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>>680815691

Yes all my screenshots are from feenix private server where i used to play 2012-2015 when it was still alive.

What the fuck is wrong with you people? Do you really NEED to see how much fucking strength you have as a mage?

It's got loads of real issues for you to attack them on, but this is just nitpicking to the extreme.

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>>680812163
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>>680813773
Ei viddu, täs on aina joku jonne lurkkaamas...
Started playing in launch of tbc.

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I got massive amount of ragewhispers for all the ganking I have done. It was so fun to troll people. You could actually prevent people from joining instances because they had do ride there and manually enter the portal.

>>680815361
Fuck off you are just like "gamer chicks" and trade chat on youtube, go flaunt your sissyness somewhere else or focus solely on the game!Not both!

>>680817287
Except I tie both into the same activity, playing with a plug in is a normal occurrence

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>>680817089

Haha jonnet ei pelannu retail vanillaa, koska jonnet ei muista.

General playerbase in private vanilla server was pretty mature because most of the players had played vanilla back in the days. Now retail wow is full of kids who want everything right now and blizz gives it to them.

>>680802854

-you say WOTLK fixed design decisions but that's when their numbers started dropping...
-many bosses had complex and unique mechanics that required the entire raid to know what to do; yes they got a bit more in depth later on, but that's one small point.
-by not viable, they were just less than ideal at certain roles. you can still play them and do fine. yes, in naxx and hardcore content you needed to play to your class's strong points, but that made sense to a lot of people, instead of just making it so easy that everything works
-difficult grinds make for a more rewarding experience. making things easier takes the fun away.
-no flying mounts and teleporting...people were forced to explore the world of warcraft....wow...."time wasted"
-leveling isn't the tutorial part of the game....it's half of the game itself.
-PvP was rock/paper/scissor based but not entirely unbalanced, of course some classes were better, but no class was "useless". and lots of people prefer it. also, remember that thing world PvP? that was pretty cool
-the newer quests have fancier animations...but the old quests were challenging, and many required grouping up. not sure why you think they were boring.
-they've been reducing the number of skills in wow....so...? ..also the game's been made easier all around and old WoW requires understanding the math/numbers/matchups for your class
-random items were fun, disenchant them, or use them, you could say the nature resist random greens were worthless before AQ came out and suddenly people needed NR sets. they allow for specialization and fun.

Old WoW was a more challenging game back then, and didn't have convenient tools to teleport into dungeons or skip content. And since it was challenging, people had to group up to overcome challenges, communicate to pass game knowledge on to newer players, form guilds and organize (40 man!) raids. It was so fun.

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>>680818325
Aloitin kun tbc tuli ulos, sain tietää vasta silloin et wow oli hyvä peli

>>680814864
>someone was still in Damage Control
I had no idea

>>680815271
kek
me and many of my friends have been playing vanilla wow and tbc exclusively on private servers since 2010~
personally I haven't played for more than 6 months or so at a time, but I always get very into it, it's the same raids and whatnot but i'd find new guilds on new servers / projects
the game forces you to make friends to do 5mans, you even end up creating networks of friends to get ready for raids at max level (gear up in ubrs for example), and then you gotta create a community (guild) or join one if you want to raid at end game level
thats what an mmo is suppose to be
tbc still had this sense of community, because of gameplay i prefer vanilla (its just hilarious, i don't care much about who has 0.0001 reaction time like a elite god)
for me personally this aspect kind of died out in and around tbc which is why i gradually switched over to private servers, i felt i would log on wotlk wow and just queue up for stuff, didn't like it so i quit :/
i would say you're entitled to your view but it's actually retarded and you're wrong. vanilla wow is a great game enjoyed by many

>>680819997
i think everyone agrees that the introduction of LFR etc killed off the most important part of WoW. there is no server community these days, no guild loyalty, no need to make friends etc. as Towelliee the streamer and others pointed out you can literally log in and do everything the game has to offer in your own garrison, it's really remarkable they thought garrisons were a good idea. that's the thing i'm most saddened about.

Bunch of neck beard faggots arguing with each other.

Good thread.

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X-realm stuff killed the community feeling. I loved playing on private server because I would meet same people every day in battlegrounds or raids. You would know who's the good player and who's the bad.

I quit retail back in TBC when we killed illidan and sunwell was still months away. I got disappointed how blizz constantly nerfed everything and made game easier for kids.

In vanilla you really had to work for gear. I spent more time farming consumables for naxx than raiding itself.

>>680803379
Welcome to 4chan faggot. Green text is used to quote things.

>>680821177
yeah, I agree fully. the patch before tbc came out
remember when you had people you absolutely hated on the opposite faction
fucking faggots needed to die

Why don't you guys go play Nostalrius, oh wait lol

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>>680801095
My fondest memories of WoW are from 2008-2009. Was it truly better? I dunno. The nostalgia goggles refuse to let me see it objectively.

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They need to bring back fun world-disrupting events like the zombie plague that came shortly before WOTLK launch.

>>680815361
got kik?

>>680808370
what the fuck does your sexuality have to do with anything?

>>680815879
Kronos is the closest

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>>680801095
>mfw private servers be free
>mfw my main in nost gets deleted by cuck bois at blizzard

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>>680823290
>mfw 1 year of playtime gone to trash
>mfw now in rebirth with 16 level human priest

>>680822680
How many fucking times did your run that to get the mount? I gave up after 50 or so attempts

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>>680810524
More screens from Naxx pls!!

So is there a new private vanilla server? Or a BC server?

>>680823625
7 runs on my hunter at lvl 70
5 runs on my warlock at lvl 70
184 runs on my DK at lvl 80 lol

Too bad I can't go back and tell my past self that mounts would become account wide in MoP

>started in mop
(made a trial in WotLK but didn't have money because young and no job)
>had a lot of fun
>start reading about the glorius days of pre cata
>you will never experience it

>>680824837
My favorite thing about pre-cata is how shit always escalated in PVP servers. A little bit of ganking often led to large scale battles.

>spending days blocking the doors of Karazhan with my buddies
Oh the butthurt