>>680618807
Because the large portion of liberal countries has been doing incredibly better than most? Like Denmark Sweden Iceland Germany UK Paris Canada. Name a non liberal country outside of the USA that's doing well.

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>>680618807
Nice strawmen
4chan is for 18+

>>680620364
not a strawman

>>680619864
China, Russia.

Really depends on how you define "well"... for example, India and Brazil have enormous economies and are slated to become global superpowers within in the next two to three decades. They are not liberal nations.

Many Middle Eastern countries are doing enormously "well"... Egypt and Saudi Arabia, for example.

>>680620364
nice liberal answer.

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>>680620442
So you think liberals agree with you characterization of their positions? Seriously, stop being a fucking idiot. Actually try to understand your opposition, instead of acting like a fucking cartoon character,.

>>680618807
societies OP. they are extremely good at destroying societies.

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>>680620804
>implying I'm liberal

Hi /pol/!

>>680619864
>Paris

I think you mean France and, in case you've forgotten (as most liberals are wont to do) they've recently been the subject of several massacres which arguably came about because of their liberal ideals and lax immigration laws/open border policies.

Belgium, too.

Levels of violent crime (rape, assault, murder) in Sweden have reached a historical high with most crimes being attributed to Muslim immigrants/refugees.

>>680619864
I will always lie to support my liberal views, the post.

test

Liberals
>Believes in peace and that war should be a last resort
>Believes the majority of people should live a decent life
>Fucking Monsters

>>680620966
I'm sorry, college educated fucktard then.

>>680620737
Are you serious? Holy shit you're dumb. Brazil's economy has been constantly contracting - 8% last financial year. India has over a billion people and an embarrassingly low GDP with the majority of their population in poverty. You're fucking delusional.

>>680621024
wow the autism.

>>680620737
Most Americans wouldn't consider China and Russia as doing "well", because of all their lack of MUHH FREEDOMS (+ ridiculous human rights violations).

Well, generally means "quality of life". It seems like you're confusing it with economics or some shit.

>>680621024
Republicans
>Believes we shouldnt give money to poor or disable, well let them starve.
>Wants every idiot American to own a gun because that's a great idea
>Elite Class

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>>680621086
>implying I went to college

Are you okay kiddo?

>>680621024
It's too bad we don't live in a fantasy world, isn't it. Wouldn't it be great if we could all just get along? Unfortunately, radical Islam has a slightly different itinerary.

A liberal "open border" policy is the perfect way to assure the destruction of your nation, your people, and your ideals.

>>680621138
Right, basic human empathy and logic is "autism". Please, tell me more why Hitler was right and eugenics is a good idea. Trump 2016 amirite xD

>>680621158
more autism.

>>680621016
What part was the lie?

>>680621138
No the autism is in the republican party who use god and 9/11 as a reason to go to war

>>680620737
>China, Russia, Saudi Arabia.
So this is what America is aspiring these days to... Good luck then!

>>680618807
Daily reminder that the founders of the USA were liberals and SJWs.

>>680621174
sorry. then I guess its stupid fucktard.

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>>680621205
>A liberal "open border" policy is the perfect way to assure the destruction of your nation, your people, and your ideals.

inb4 DURR JUDEN

>Liberal
>Conservative
>Democrat
>Republican

All these are bullshit. With any politician, just ask:
1. Is he/she bought?
2. If so, by whom?

If you don't vote to get money out of politics, your vote literally does not matter. Bought politicians represent their donors, period.

>>680621205
I never said open borders was a good idea, i completely agree with you on the border situation

>>680618807
How many people honestly believe that conservatives aren't brainwashed into letting corporations and the government literally rape their citizens to death?

>Draconian laws
>Religious dogma infecting all aspects of legislation
>Deregulation for companies destroying the environment and depleting resources
>Tax breaks for companies that are already hiding trillions offshore
>Far-reaching surveillance of innocent citizens
>Militarized police force that is literally robbing and murdering citizens without cause
>Purposely igniting racial tension to manipulate the public
>Encroaching on personal freedoms because "muh religion!"
>Literally selling the country to the highest bidder
>Advocating war crimes against various countries while finger-wagging at everyone else
>Supporting the Israeli state through massive contributions from the Jewish media

I can keep going if you want.

>no
>yes
>?

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>>680621307
Thanks for all your posts. You really contributed to the conversation.

>>680621215
it just gets worse to more you post.

>>680620737
"Brazil"

>>680618807
How can people honestly believe that republicans aren't brainwashed into destroying countries?
>LessDrugs
>MoreGuns
>Less Public money
>Poor straving
>Close Borders
>unneeded Military
>no chance for ex Criminals

How can it get more obvious than that?

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>>680621174

>>680621174
Too dumb to get into even your local community college, huh?

>>680621226
every part.

>>680621389
Finally someone who gets it

>>680620737
>China, Russia.
OP comlplains about less rights
so you have more in china or russia?
also isnt china far left?

>>680621241
now we're straw manning.

>>680618807
You didn't list the most important part:
>hate yourself
Remember kids, Jesus says love your neighbor as you would yourself, so when you hate yourself, you will get a society fulled with hate. This is why these things can only work in countries that have a foundation of national pride--Denmark, Norway, etc. Half of the people in America are a bunch of whiny, entitled, self-hating faggots with a persecution complex.

Maybe because they don't care about a country with military strength that pins itself down, or barriers to its people making decisions for themselves without the government telling them who can be in the place where they live or what substances they can have.

>>680618807
>>More Drugs
legal drugs, less crime
>Less Guns
Less crime
>Give all your money to the poor
less poverty less crime
>Open Borders
eh, fuck it
>Defund Military
balance the buget
>Victimize Criminals
see issue number one
>Victimize Perversion
I don't think liberals do that, but pedophile priests definitely do.

>>680621389
sounds like you're brainwashed.

>>680621518
Why the fuck should people be "patriotic" about having been born into a country with imaginary borders? Should I be proud of myself for having a name? Being a human? Hyper nationalism is disgusting

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>>680618807
How can people honestly believe that OP isn't brainwashed into sucking black COCK?

>He loves Black Cock
>He wants more Black Cock
>More Taxes on things not related to Black Cock
>Give all your money to Black Cock
>Black Cock
>Black Cock
>Victimize White Cock
>Black Cock

How can it get more obvious than that?

>>680621404
more than you could. cry more child.

>>680621128
>>680621128

India has a nominal GDP of over two trillion dollars and Brazil has a nominal GDP of over 1.5 trillion, making them the 7th and 9th largest global economic powers, respectively. Their economies have been steadily increasing for decades and they are both the economic/militaristic powers in their respective geographic regions. In other words, India is the US of South Asia and Brazil is the US of South America.

Do a little bit of research before you spew more bullshit out of your mouth you industrial cock inhaler.

THAT SAID, Brazil and India both have comparatively low GDP's PER CAPITA... which is why I said you really need to define what you mean by "well" when you consider whether or not a nation is or isn't "doing well".

>>680621430
more brainwashing.

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>>680621440
>more ad-hominem

You're really making your point kiddo.

I don't understand this war on drugs, If you ask me we should legalize pot, acid, dmt and most other psychedelics and put all of our resources into fighting meth, heroin and the actual drugs that are destroying this nation.

>>680621581
12 or living at home, or both.

>>680621701
>calling closed borders good
never heard about traid?
>need more guns
why are less shootings in europe? we even have the Balkan and less shootings
>paying so much for military, still cant use it right
think about how gets brainwashed

>>680621482
China is technically on the far left of the spectrum but I think we all know how "liberal" communism really is.

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>>680618807
>Give all your money to the poor

That is a Christian position. Read the bible. Fuck off atheist SCUM!

>>680621797
Government doesn't give a shit about meth or heroin because it keeps you retarded and kills you, plus it has high profit margins.

It's psychedelics they won't put up with, can't have people doing safe drugs and thinking outside the box we put them in.

>>680621643
Thanks for demonstrating my point. You think I want my taxes raised to pay for you? Fuck no. Fuck you. I'm not asking for hyper nationalism, just try rooting for the home team or get out of the stadium.

>>680621843
still he says China is a right country that dose well neither dose china wel atm nor is it right

>>680618807
how can you confuse CIA for Liberal?

>>680621814
>ADHOMINEM 24/7

KEK

>>680621843
>>680621482
Either way China's long since abandonded Communism in all but name. They're basically just another centrist-with-right-wing-leanings dictatorship at this point.

>>680621911
and i cant just enjoy a game without getting drunk and have a fistfight with a naked guy from the other team?

>>680621835
you live in a dream world.
gotta go, work. someone has to pay for your free college.

>>680620910
That's literally their viewpoints and they aren't hiding it. I can't even tell if this is bait.

>>680621814
28, working full-time, living overseas.

now that the obligatory personal attack is out of the way, explain the error in my logic.

>>680621937
Listen to this anon.

>>680621987
>Implying you make over 250k a year
>zozzles

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>>680621663
>more ad-hominem

>>680621843
china's not even communist... ^^

its totalitarian but have private industry

>>680621987
im paying my collage myself, if you think your contry can live for its own, or guns help against guns, you are in a dream world
also you still didnt said one thing against my points, so seems i am correct?

I'd just like to point out that the UK has more violent crimes per capita than the US and you're not even allowed to have a screwdriver or a butter knife in public.

>>680622045
burn...

>>680621241
Alright I'm a liberal but who the fuck says 9/11 wasn't a good reason to go to war?
It was an ATTACK on US soil. The al-Qaeda straight up hit us with a couple of planes, with thousands of casualties. How is that not grounds for declaring war? That would be like if we didn't declare war on Japan after they did Pearl Harbor.

>>680622111
China is communist on paper.

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>>680622019
>That's literally their viewpoints

No, that isn't true. Please show me any liberal platform that says your stupid bullshit. I'll wait....

Protip: You're not gonna find any. All you will find is the right-wing pretending that this is the liberal platform. All you are doing is straw-manning and your too fucking brainwashed to notice it.

>>680621937
Wow... shit just got real...

>>680618807
>Less Guns

It was at this point I realized two things:

Your opinion is worthless, and you're one of those types of americans.

Enjoy having your schools shot up.

>>680621086
>>680621307
>>680621440
>Wow look at this stupid shit with his bullshit college education lol fuck those liberal hellholes amirite
>"well I actualy didn't go to college so..."
>Wow look at this stupid shit didn't even go to college lol fuck these uneducated retards amirite
You're insults aren't even consistent. You're just going against whatever he says so you can be right.

>>680622140
In the UK everything that's more than spitting on someone is classified as violent crime.

According to the FBI only rape, murder, assault and armed robbery are considered violent crimes.

Learn2statistics

>>680622191
paper burns

>>680621691
India and Brazil are also the 3rd and 7th largest economic powers when you consider the purchasing power parity.

>>680618807
Scandinavia is doing all that and worked fine until the snigger nation attacked, all cause of murmikas senseless and unending wars.

>>680622169
Most other liberals wouldn't agree, they'd some how blame it on America like oh we did this first so their attack was justified, and then say our troops are baby murderers and should all die or some dumb shit like that.

Nationalism and elitism (see patriotism) or gtfo. Removing guns doesn't do anything but make the people less able to defend themselves, legalizing drugs is a gateway to mass degeneracy, and giving to the poor is a great way to increase crime while pulling down economic power houses. Libtards are cucked beyond my wildest imagination.

>>680622380
americans are a very anti-intellectual culture. its part of the reason the citizens keep getting rolled over by their government their corperations

>>680620804
Nice conservacuck comeback

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>>680622467
Sure thing /pol/

>>680621581
>eh, fuck it
Nice argument. You do realize that with our lax border policies, illegal immigrants continue to steal our jobs and homes and get to have their kids be born as US citizens, right?

>>680622395
Assault AND battery... I was convicted of simple battery after I slapped my abusive alcoholic mother in the face.

A slap in the face is considered a violent crime in the United States... so.

>>680621814
you gonna debate my points or what?

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>>680622543
>Muhh immigrant boogeyman

Go to bed Donald

>>680622433
yrah but what about the GDP
its not like you have a good life there

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>>680621581
>More Drugs
>legal drugs, less crime
Wrong. More crime. more accidents
>Less Guns
>Less crime
Wrong again.Criminals get more guns. Average citizens get nothing
>Give all your money to the poor
>less poverty less crime
Wrong. Subsiding the poor only makes people more dependant.
>Open Borders
>eh, fuck it
Great argument
>Defund Military
>balance the buget
Wrong. We're going to have more problems if we retreat
>Victimize Criminals
>see issue number one
We won't have any crime if everything is legal right? Fuck off
>Victimize Perversion
>I don't think liberals do that, but pedophile priests definitely do.
No one remembers gay bathhouses in the 70s
Gays are being rebranded as victims and not extreme perverts.

>>680622504
One day I'll find a better place to live. I'm not sure what yet, but there's gotta be somewhere that's better.

>>680621024
Liberals
>Believes in peace and that war should be a last resort
>Imports people from war zones who publicly support terrorist groups and genocide of infidels

>>680621002
Those had nothing to do with border policies. All of the terrorists in the attack (except for maybe 1) were French citizens.

>>680622570
Fun fact: spitting on someone is also considered a violent crime in the United States.

>>680621389
>Supporting Israeli state
And in the grand scheme of things, schlomo is having his way with the liberal party. Its interesting how I've met so many liberals that were against israel but followed jewish visionary ideologies such as the supporting of mental illness. They support the slandering of media yet hold the press back. They are so deluded by their own crusade that they cannot see that what they are for they are against. Stop saying you hate israel when the very ideals you cherish are brought to life by those of Jewish intent for destruction.

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>>680622645
>BUTTT MUHHH GAYS!

>>680622543
dude... my parents are immigrants... my father worked for your universities and stole your fucking jobs.

>>680622618
It's fucking true. Why don't you use an actual argument instead of just making an ad-hominem attack?

>>680622570
The point is that "violent crime" statistics in the US are stupidly restrictive and in the UK they're ridiculously open, so directly comparing the two without accounting for the differences is dumb.

It's the same mistake that dumb fox news host made when he tried to claim that violent crime is four times as common in the UK

>>680621016
I will always paint any views opposed to mine in a negative light to support my anti-liberal views, the post.

>>680618807
Most people in USA fall in the middle of liberal and conservative.

>>More drugs
Filling up the jails with pot smokers is expensive
>>Less Guns
Guns are fun to shoot, I disagree.
>>Give all your money to the poor
Fuck.... that
>>Open Borders
I'm ok with this.
>>Defund Military
Yes, we police the world for corporate interests
>>Victimize Criminals
I like the police
>>Victimize Perversion
Hurt no one, and there's no crime imo.

>>680622713
Many of the terrorists, including those who bombed the airport/metro in Brussels, were Islamic militants who immigrated disguised as Syrian refugees.

>>680622720
Not according to the FBI. The only reliable source of national crime stats in the US

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>>680619864
>Because the large portion of liberal countries has been doing incredibly better than most?
>Sweden
>germany
This is either bait or you're laughing at us goys.

>>680622835
>The point is that "violent crime" statistics in the US are stupidly restrictive

No, they aren't. Slapping someone and/or spitting on someone is classified as a violent crime in the US (along with the usual rape/murder, etc) so you really have no explanation for why there is so much more violent crime in the UK even though they have extremely strict gun laws.

>>680622618
>Donald Trump haters can only use verbal abuse as an argument.
And this is why we need that nutjob in office. He speaks for every pussy whipped piece of shit that hides by the walls of verbal abuse. What is a liberal going to do when the very foundation, their very character is attacked from all sides as Trump rallies up a gulf of fuck you to those who advocate verbal abuse. You can do nothing but kick and scream as the man you claim to hate takes charge and teaches America how to stand up once again.

>>680621217
I like that every post that is opposed to your views must be autistic. Because otherwise, you would be the autistic one, correct?

>>680622467
>legalizing drugs is a gateway to mass degeneracy
No, it's a gateway to killing off foreign drug cartels and not turning those who make a personal choice to do drugs into hardened criminals by giving them a jail sentence. Plus, the war on Drugs is a total waste of money either way, and once we legalize drugs we can divert all that money to other, more important funds.

>>680622618
>sneak into America
>wife gives birth to muh child on American land
>cant deport me now

>>680621438
That's actually pretty fucking accurate. The only reason i haven't made the move is because I'm addicted to the shitposts. It's like picking at a scab.

>>680622645
>Less Guns
>Less crime
europe has less guns
europe has less crimes
even china has less people in jails than you, why is that so? because of the liberals?

>Give all your money to the poor
>less poverty less crime
if you got nothing to eat, you will take it, we saw that a lot of time here in europe

>Open Borders
>eh, fuck it
closed borders are bad for: rade, realations with other nations etc

>Defund Military
>balance the buget
you dont need 20 aircraftcarriers

>Gays are being rebranded as victims and not extreme perverts.
why dont we all junst dont care how fucks how, as long as it dosnt hapend on the streets, all persons are over age of consent and no one gets raped?
why would you even care if someone likes fucking dudes? its not like the gays force you to take dicks

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>>680622645
You know we have other countries in the world, right? We can see the effects of changing laws on other places. Most of your shit just isn't true. It doesn't follow from the evidence we have.

Countries that legalized weed, didn't get more crimes. Countries that have stricter gun laws, didn't get more crime. Countries that have more social programs, didn't get more poor people. I could go on, but you can probably see the point. All you are doing is talking out of your ass kiddo.

>>680622284
You've never listened to a single politician have you?

>>680623024
You are factually and provably incorrect.

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/violent-crime/violent-crime-topic-page/violentcrimemain_final#disablemobile

>>680622645
Its not the big criminals with guns that are the biggest issue. They aren't the ones that go and kill randomly.

Its the 15 year olds or depressed retards that can get a gun at wal-mart and shoot up a school or shop.

source: your fucking track record on gun violence
>b-b-b-but they could use a knife instead!!!!!
Check murders per 100k population of america, compared to any other 1st world country

>>680622939
germany got to the ffinancial crisis without problems, you not
Europe has a greater economy than the US, it dosnt matter if there are imigrants or not

>>680622922

>There are two main crime databases maintained by the United States Department of Justice (DOJ): the Bureau of Justice Statistics' National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) and the Federal Bureau of Investigation's Uniform Crime Report (UCR).

>The UCR excludes simple assault (attacks or attempted attacks without a weapon resulting in either no injury or minor injury) and sexual assault, which are in the NCVS.

In other words, the FBI doesn't include simple or sexual assault in its data collection. The Bureau of Justice, however, does. It really depends on whose statistics you choose to look at.

At the end of the day, any which way you spin it, there are many more violent crimes in the UK, a nation which has banned the public possession of household items such as screwdrivers, than there are in the United States.

Gun control does not equal a safe and non-violent society.

>>680623199
>>680623343

Of course now you're going to tell me that the United States Bureau of Justice is an "unreliable source".

Fucking lol.

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>>680622781
>DEY DUN TOOK R JOBZ

KEK
Cool story Cletus, but I'm perfectly fine with people immigrating to America. Sorry.

>>680622645
>>More Drugs
>>legal drugs, less crime
>Wrong. More crime. more accidents

accident and crime are not the same....

>Less Guns
>Less crime
Wrong again.Criminals get more guns. Average citizens get nothing

not if you choke the Manufacturing of guns, or limit to only smart gun ID manufacturer making unregistered ownership transfer possible (something that the manufactures again would not want as the criminals ARE part of their market)

>Give all your money to the poor
>less poverty less crime
Wrong. Subsiding the poor only makes people more dependant.

okay, and how does starving them fix it?

>Open Borders
>eh, fuck it
Great argument

son of immigrants, what can I say.

>Defund Military
>balance the buget
Wrong. We're going to have more problems if we retreat

retreat from what? we are STARTING the majority of the wars out there and have the option to stay out of them.

>Victimize Criminals
>see issue number one
We won't have any crime if everything is legal right? Fuck off

I was referencing to the drug policy, its stupid to criminalize weed, you can save a shit tone of money by investing in rehab and legalization over enforcement, organized crime and prison costs.

>Victimize Perversion
>I don't think liberals do that, but pedophile priests definitely do.
No one remembers gay bathhouses in the 70s
Gays are being rebranded as victims and not extreme perverts.

depends, if it was consensual, then who the fuck cares? why would you care?

>>680623343
still less death to shootings
still less gun violence
also what about the rest of europe?
and do you forget the USA has the highest prisoner per head rate in the world? higher than russia or china

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>>680623170
I've listen to plenty. Still waiting for evidence of your claims...

>>680623203
Shootings like the ones you are talking about make up like 0.00000000001% of the gun crime, but they get the most media hype. Most gun fatalities are from inner city gang related shootings, which are rarely reported in the media.

>>680623125
thank you...

>>680623503
So if you bad guns, only the people with guns will kill each other and you will save the dozens of people, often children, each year from getting shot?

Gee. Hard choice to make.

>>680623095
that's fine as long as we can cut the welfare shit out.

It should be on a sliding scale, you start off with lots of welfare, then if you can't fix your stupid ass life and prove you're worth having here, you lose it.

>>680623125
Europe and China also have less blacks, that is why there is less crime

U.S. Doesn't have 20 air craft carriers, I would know, I work for the company that builds them.

>>680623559
i have a question
are there realy that much people in the US thinking like the others in this thread
i dont live there but well where i live we would call this extreamly backward, i normaly think that 80% of the people here are trolls

>>680622652
I am with you. i am living abroad now... and its like night and day.
I am still the outsider here though, but unlike back in the states, people are nicer about it.

I kinda want to go to Finland though, see their education system in action.

>>680623503
US has about 1 mass shooting a day
thats more than all of europe
in germany we got like 1 every 5 years

>>680622755
jew detected
>>680623125
1.europe has less niggers
2.if you need to goverment to pay for your food who is going to pay for you iphone?
3.wrong. united states is literally turning into mexico because of mexicans. You should see LA you dumb nigger
4. You need more than 20 aircraft carriers when russia has 2,500 nukes
5.fuck off

>>680623151
Less Niggers and Mexicans in those countries. Almost 100% white.
And wrong they are poor. I never use european products.
Only japanese and american made by chinese factories.

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>>680623678
>buttttttt NIGGERS

Hi /pol/!

>>680623471
>still less death to shootings
>still less gun violence
Of course, take away guns and there is bound to be less gun violence. But there will be more stabbings and beatings. Next you'll be saying that we need to cut off everyone's hands so they can't punch anyone.

>what about the rest of europe?
Some nations are less violent, some nations are more violent. The real reason for this has yet to be explained. It's beside the point though because I've proven to you, with facts and statistics, that just because you ban guns it doesn't necessarily mean there will be less violence.

>and do you forget the USA has the highest prisoner per head rate in the world? higher than russia or china
This is completely off topic... a widely used tactic of radical liberals when they're confronted with facts and reason.

You're grasping at straws, my friend.

>>680623490
You obviously have never heard a politician speak about any issues.

>>680623801
Well seeing as blacks commit the majority of violent crimes in America of course I'm gonna blame them you tard

>>680623678
they have 10 carriers atm, 3 are still in build
but russia has so much slawes
and france and england is full of black, germany and sweden full of arabs

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>>680623767
>DERRR JOOOOOOOOOO
>I'm super-ceral guize
>DERRRR JOOOOZZZZZ

>>680623766
>1 mass shooting a day
>citation needed

Shit, I wonder how I've managed to survive this long what with 365 bloody massacres happening right outside my door every single year.

>>680623692
USA is isolated.

Half the people on /b/ only understand europe from /b/'s perspective. They literally think that everyone loves Muslims in Europe, that Chav's are better then niggers because they're white, and that all your food is better tasting then the things that are found in USA (some of the stuff in Europe is good, and some is shit, just like every country)

>>680623121
Hahah.

>>680623766
Yea, but it's not:

>the 15 year olds or depressed retards that can get a gun at wal-mart and shoot up a school or shop.

It's gang related, like:

>Father’s Day this year, when 10 people were shot at a block party in West Philadelphia

and

>12 people were shot at a child’s birthday party in Detroit, Michigan.

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>>680623801
>black people are equal
>i dont want to know the truth

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>>680623913
Is this some /pol/ logic? You use blacks for hypothetical crime between countries with no blacks.

>>680623767
france and england is full of black, germany and sweden full of arabs

because let someone strave will make them get a job, lol that didnt even worked back in 1800

the US is fucked not because of mexicans, but because of republicans
also 100 years ago LA was mexico

aircraftcarriers against nukes? that makes sense

>>680623343
>>680623399
You should have continued reading the article you copied and pasted.

Eg.

>The NCVS data are estimates from a nationally representative sample of U.S. households, but the UCR data are based on the actual counts of offenses reported by law enforcement.

>The NCVS excludes crimes against children under 12 years, persons in institutions, and, possibly, highly mobile populations and the homeless; however, victimizations against these persons may be included in the UCR.

If you think that violent crime is worse in the UK than it is in the US you simply need to learn statistics. No amount of denial and desperate go ogling will change that.

>>680623947
http://www.shootingtracker.com/Main_Page

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>>680623944
jew spazzing out lol

calm down their juden

>>680623947
im talking about all of the US, look up statistics, its not every day but 1 per 1 or 2 weeks, thats still fucking much, even the kosovo dont has as much

>>680624072
>the areas full of arabs and blacks aren't shitholes

KEK

>>680624059
There is no hypothetical the reason Europe has less crime is because it has less dindus

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>>680624036
>More strawman

When did I say niggers are equal dumbass? Try harder /pol/lack

>>680623692
its depends on where you are living. its a horribly mixed bag, the only thing I know that is consistent is that americans are power whores and when they see bullys, they see power and flock to it. very religious, very anti-intellectual, can bully culture.what you are seeing the republican primary and trump is not anything new, rather its out in the open right now. I was working part time in college and spoke with some Saudi customers in Arabic and one of my co-workers freaked her shit.

>>680623987
so dont give everyone guns, thats easy

>>680624072
California became a state in 1850, nearly 170 years ago... and there were hardly any Mexicans because for hundreds of years before then it was an extremely remote desert region in the Northern reaches of Mexico.

>>680624059
Not that guy, but blacks make up 13% of the population and commit 80% of the violent. Now if 80% of the violent crime suddenly dropped, it would be just a coincidence right?

When did b/ go back to the left?

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>>680618807
>Knows nothing of effective social policy
>Republican
kek

>>680623969
but are there realy that much people thinking so in the US?
we see some of "that people" here in the news if somthing about trump is on, but that is not how the us is or?

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>>680624245
>race is a social construct.

>>680624215
so why dose the US have more crime than europe if we are a shithole?

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>>680624217
Cool story. Please provide your peer-review paper that concluded that. Where did you publish this? What kind of statistical analysis did you perform? What was the confidence level for your conclusion?

What was the alternative hypothesis? What was the null hypothesis?

>>680618807
And you're also generalizing all liberals into one category. Talk about your fallacy, faggot.

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>>680624288
well for your history 70 years may be much, but we are just using bigger numbers here for history sorry for forgetting that 70 years

i didnt said they where there before, but you fucked mexico pretty much a lot of time, ofc people dont want to stay there

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>>680624388
>more strawman
>implying I think race is a social construct

You're not even trying anymore /pol/

>>680624416
America is much bigger that Europe, also you guys are getting raped way more than we are, you all just like it too much to report it

>>680621643
fucking autistic

>>680624517
nope america is smaller, europe has more people

>>680624518
Yes, yes you are.

>>680624417
Only if you provide evidence to disprove me.

>>680624388
left out egypt

>>680624548
oh and also, if you touch a girls butt its a crime here and it will be reported, trust me

>>680624548
Didn't deny you like being raped though.

>>680621334
that image in no way represents anyone's views and you know it.

>>680624517
Lol, isn't Sweeden like the rape capital of the west now? All you cucks ITT should bring your gfs on a nice vacation to Stockholm, I hear it is beautiful this time of year.

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>>680624505
>facts are now strawmen

>>680624388
never heard of Kingdom of Aksum

I find it really interesting that all these Europeans get so angry about gun laws in the United States. First of all, it doesn't affect you in any way, shape, or form... actually wait, it does affect you... POSTIVELY. Glock is an Austrian company.

Here I stand, as an American, telling you that gun crimes are not as prevalent as they seem. They are blown enormously out of proportion by the media. I have never been the victim of a gun crime, I have never known anyone who has been the victim of a gun crime, I have never known anyone who has committed a gun crime and I have never known anyone who has known someone who has committed or been the victim of a gun crime. The international media portrays Americans as a bunch of crazy gun-toting cowboys and yet I have never once seen a single firearm in public.

Of course you'll all jump down my throat and start frothing at the mouth and shouting about how I don't know anything but you're wrong. You're not American. You only know what the media tells you and since most of your countries have liberal leanings and your media is dominated by liberal outlets of course you'll hear all this heinous, blown out of proportion bullshit. It's wrong. And it doesn't affect you. So shut the fuck up about it.

>>680624517
European population: 742.5 million

US: 318.9 million

>America is much bigger that Europe,

fuck you.

>>680624626
well i cant say much about other persons here, i ddont like it, but we dont have much rapists, so your chances to get raped are way to low

>>680624721
Nope, if they had contributed anything to society I probably would have though.

>>680624626
seriously dude?

>>680623868
Based on all the names you've given, clearly you haven't either.

>>680622111
>>680623444
Youre fuckin dumb. Sometimes i almost want to appreciate the government with its rigged elections. It keeps you completely fucking worthless mexicans from turning thus country into tiajuana

>>680624752
we dont get angry, we just dont understand it
and its a fact the you have more guncrimes per head, also its not like you cant get a gun in europe, i have 2. you just need to do a test for it, like you need for a car
>First of all, it doesn't affect you in any way, shape, or form...
what do you have against gays then?

>>680624756
Is that also counting all the new mixed babies that are coming from all the rape pregnancies?

>>680624802
they are in the Civ games, they where even in the bible

>>680624948
We back ground check people,most of the gun crime is like some dumbass leaving their gun out and their kid getting ahold of it, or illegal guns

>>680624752
Yea, I'm not even a gun owner, but it's so funny to me how our eurobros see guns as so barbaric. I think it's because people in the west are so privileged and have no first hand experience with tyranny, but I guarantee there are some Koreans who wish they could exercise their right to bear arms.

>>680624948
In case you'd forgotten, the Supreme Court has legalized gay marriage across the nation.

My point still stands, though. It doesn't affect you. It doesn't matter. Why are you so concerned with what other people are doing in their own countries? If we started chopping off the heads of gay people, what business is it of yours? Shut the fuck up and get back to you baguettes or whatever the fuck. Stop sticking your European noses in other peoples' business.

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>>680624589
>I don't understand the burden of proof
>IT'S TRUE UNTIL YOU DISPROVE ME!!
>DISPROVE MEEEEEEE!

KEK
You don't seem to understand how basic reasoning works. You made a claim, so you need to provide evidence to support it, so people will believe you.

I didn't make any claims, so I don't got to prove shit. I never even said you were wrong faggot, I just asked you to prove your shit. Not believing your claims, because you failed to make your point, isn't the same thing as calling your claims false.

>>680625093
here we need to get a weapons cabinet
also you are not allowed to let you gun just lay around loaded
if you are doing one of this and police findes it out you will lose your weapons

>>680624752
This is so true though, I have never seen or heard a crime involving a gun in person, only on the news.

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>>680624666
You mean it's a strawman? Like the OP?

Why do Europe idiots defend it as if it were one country? Sure, you are all pussies and faggots, but each country is different levels of gayness.

>>680625121
It probably has something to do with American gun owners acting like barbarians.

Too many see guns not as a tool to be used but as an extension of their pens.

>>680625132
>If we started chopping off the heads of gay people
Honestly, if I didn't have to pay an infidel tax, I would welcome the Caliphate for this alone. I'm so sick of hearing about the LGBT crap.

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>>680624686
Please show me where I said "race was a social construct" (like you claimed I did).

I didn't say anything like that. Stop your strawman bullshit kid.

>>680625132
It's called empathy you fucking sociopath

>>680625132
i thought you would be one of the hardcore right in this thread
i dont care that much about your gunlaw, im a gunowner myself, but americans tend to be like "yeah i have my gun, im much better america is only bad because of the black and mexicans, etc" so why dont point out that there are problems with the gunlaw and not everything is to be blamed on the black

>>680625264
Mfw my rifle actually attaches to my pen.

>>680624986
yeah.... because the population trippled overnight via rape...

dude, europe is bigger in landmass and population thant he states, and if you want to measure EU, its actually bigger in economy. there is nothing small about europe.

>>680625207
Same thing here in most parts its different by state but mine requires all that, also the only way we can ever get away with legally shooting someone is if they break into your house have you basically trapped in a corner and are trying to kill you, I can't just shoot you for breaking in.

>>680625365
Except your penis and minds.

>>680625010
>they are in the Civ games, they where even in the bible
the epitome of credibility

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>>680625365
well the US has more land, but most of it is desert

>>680624673
Yes. Because they skew the numbers to draw attention to a problem. Their definition of rape is much broader, they will add any report whether it was bullshit or not to the statistic, and multiple counts from a single person, a single offender in a single report will all be added individually.

They do it because a high rape statistic makes people talk and prompts education.

>>680624752
>>680625214

This is because violence sells. People, for whatever reason, consistently seem to forget that news isn't a public service, it's a business. They are going to report the stories that will attract the most viewers/readers/listeners and, more than that, they'll even put their own spin on it depending on which side their outlet leans on the political spectrum.

>>680625176
I'm glad I'm anonymous because you don't know what other posts are mine huehuehue I could even be someone agreeing with you

>>680625378
well seems like you live in a "liberal" part of the us

>>680621024
>Liberals
>Believes in peace and that war should be a last resort
>Believes the majority of people should live a decent life

Believes everyone should be pussies.
Believes everyone should get shit for free without working hard for it like others

>>680625221
The OP listed your typical liberal's cardinal policies. You can't keep calling it strawman when people lose their job or go to court over supporting the opposite in your liberal paradise.

>>680625439
well the bible is kinda an importand book for many people,else you could also say jesus is not importand and you never heard about him, hes only in the bible

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>>680625453
>Trump

I'd vote for literally anyone over Trump.

>>680625463
Europe: 10,180,000 square kilometres
USA: 9,147,593.0 km

yeah... no.....

>>680625496
Agreed I try to find nonbias news outlets but they are so hard to come by

>>680625564
ofc thats how it works
and conservativs are like kill all black and gays, kill everyone that dosnt think like i do, and give me a SAW with the fries pls

>>680625264
The same thing can be said about cars. They are both deadly, powerful, mechanical objects, and we fetishize cars just as much as guns. In fact, cars kill more people than guns, yet no one ever talks about banning cars.

>>680625327
Okay. Predominately Muslim nations routinely execute people for engaging in homosexuality. Why aren't you breathing down Afghanistan's neck? Oh, right, because they're Muslim and hating/imprisoning/murdering homosexuals is just part of their rich culture. Meanwhile you give America shit because certain states want to prevent homosexual marriage. Not homosexuality, just marriage.

Fuck off.

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>>680625586
Cool story. Please show me any liberal platform that says what OP claims. I'll wait...

>>680625535
I actually live in a common wealth that's in the south

>>680625409
hey your dicks arn't much bigger.
you must love the congo though.

>>680625663
you are talking abour europe and not the EU or?

>>680625586
>liberal's cardinal policies

[citation needed]

>>680624752
they are brainwashed by their socialist state, you would hate guns too if all your front page news were about how some racist killed hundreds of innocent babbys in africa

>>680625601
you can also say the council of Nicaea made 90% of it up.

>>680625663
Wiki says Europeans have twice as much people per square Kilometer. I think thats what he meant.

>>680625725
I live in the south and I can kill anyone for looking at me funny. You must live in a shitty common wealth.

>>680625663
That is the entirety of Europe, not just the European Union.

Also, Europe is a continent. The United States is a country.

>>680625706
I like this guy

>>680625610

Kill yourself faggot

>>680624941

sorry dude^^

I will admit you did crack me the fuck up there, but sorry, I am swiss I have no idea were the mexican thing came from, but dude.... ^^

you seriously love the fact that your country and corporations are fucking you? Jesus no wonder you guys are going to shit.

>>680625823
still its importand for many people, even if not for you and me and even if made up
and they are in the bible, they where a real country, also they where Christian

>>680625879
Va

>>680625700
Exactly, you need a license to drive cars

>>680625706
we do, but not here on /b/, why?
they are not here, also they dont run around say they are the best and they are so free
they say what they are a muslime state with sharia law, its not good but they dont act like somthing else

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>>680625976
No thanks. I rather vote multiple times, in different states, for anyone but Trump. You're welcome.

>>680618807
Hi I'm just here to say you clearly don't know the meaning of the word "victimize", you ignorant bastard, and English isn't even my main language. Bye now.

>>680625700
and thats why you need a license
you can also buy guns in europe with a license for is, you get it almost like the driving license with a test etc

>>680626056
Huh? You need a license to own a gun too, at least in my state you do.

>>680625706
> the greatest country in the world
> look, we'll be slightly more humane than mudslimes, but youd better thank me for it!

>>680625706
Well forgive me for holding the richest and most powerful country in the world to higher standards than the asshole of the world

>>680625895

I know, know on bothered citing the union as the thing in question, so the continent was up for grabs

>>680620737
Brazil live that time one economy socialism fake a capitalism.

Big transformatioms come in next mounths.

Great country but bad peoples on power.

>>680626211
its a background checck, not a real license
at least for most states

>>680621244
Classical liberal =\= thegarbage that passes for liberalism today.

They were slave owners who didn't want to pay taxes and religious conservatives who were so out of touch wif bloody ole England they were sent to new England.

The founding fathers were not "liberal" in today's sense of the word.

>>680625863
I was referring to land area ^^;

>>680626211
In mine you need a license to conceal carry. but not to own a gun.

>>680626220
>>680626222
Again, why are you holding us to any standards? What we do is our own business. Mind your own god damn business.

>>680626182
That was totally necessary...

>>680625732
the content

no one specified what the meant by "europe"