>>680342072
>day of Christmas party
>decide to organize a before-party
>invite Mali and some good friends
>on the way, friend tells me there's something between us
>kind of a sexual tension
>once she's drunk, go and see her
>tells me about her insecurities
>but we constantly get interrupted
>drunk people coming and telling shit
>in the end we only spoke for like an hour
>fuck I want my answers
>tuesday (3 days later) going out of school
>we start speakin about friday night
>she asks me "wanna have a drink so we can talk about it ?"
>fuckyeah.jpg
>we go to shitty bar and both take hot chocolate
>decide to take her to my favorite bar
cont

>>680342186
>bartender knows me
>makes the best cocktails he can
>Mali goes to the bathroom
>bartender asks me if she's my gf
>"I'd like to"
>"don't worry, I'll take care of it"
>offers us free shots, good music etc (mah nigga)
>spend 6hours in bar
>she tells me about Dick
>"for him, I'm THE woman of his life
>but I don't feel the same, he's not the one I want...
>I've been trying to leave him since August
>but each time, he cries, crumbles
>and I give up the idea"
>ask her why she's still with him
>"because I love him"
>after bar don't know what to think
>got to know moar about her etc
>but at the same time, nothing really happened
cont

>>680342378
>spent christmas holidays with family abroad
>ff mid-January
>holidays
>whole school will go skiing at the end of the month
>BB's bf bday
>Mali's here
>decide to drink heavily before coming
>arrive at 10, sorta smashed
>5 classmates, 20 strangers
>ignore classmates, start talkin to everyone (know they mirin)
>before midnight, classmates go to other room to be alone
> chase'em
>20min later, Mali checks her phone, gets up
>"I have to go"
>Dick is at it again
>text her few hours later
>answers 2 days later in the middle of the night : "Kisses"
>first time she ever texts me this (I did multiple times)
>shit's gettin real

>>680342696
>3 days left before skiing
>BB'S not in town, asks me to take care of Mali
>Mali no longer wants to go skiing
>tell BB I'll handle it
>invite Mali to a bar, along with some friends
>two of my friends discuss
>we speak with Mali and 2 others
>make lots of allusions to our trip
>she nods, tells it'll be great
>think she will come
>2 friends leave, we're now face to face
>admits me that she is indeed not coming
>she's going on a one week retire in Poland alone
>she's lost in her life
>wants to have a break and know what to do
>tell her I'll be waiting for her conclusions

i'll lurk

Just tell her you love her

>>680342853
thanks for the bump anon

>>680342809
>february
>2nd semester begins
>we have lunch the very first day (8 ppl)
>she sits in front of me
>think she'll talk to me about her trip
>nothing
>things go like this for about 3 weeks
>I don't often go to class
>she no longer goes to parties, afterworks (some bar we go to each week)
>when I'm in class, barely notices me, doesn't talk to me at all
>mid-end february she throws a party at her place
>texts me about it, don't answer
>goes to me the next day "still waiting for your answer"
>tell her a friend celebrates his graduation the same day, I'll be there later

>>680342925
wait 'til the end

try it, forget her beta bf.. otherwise you'll lose her

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>>680343036
>wants me to come from 8 til morning
>"I'll be there around 11/12"
>for 3 days, she insists on me being there from 8 til morning
>d-day
>have bro (call him Buli) going there at 8
>ask Buli to hype my coming
>at 10, he starts textin me
>pic related
>she discovers, starts textin and callin
>upon leaving (at 12) graduated friend asks me about the situation
>ask for final advice
>"when she opens the door, fuckin kiss her"
>Roger that
>5min later, I call her
>she opens the door
cont

>>680343163
>she opens the front door
>at last you're here
>we walk to the 2nd door (the one gettin to her flat)
>she turns back "oh didn't greet you"
>now is the time
>enterpanicmode.webm
>didn't do shit
>I enter
>crowd is overhyped
>confidence at 100%
>she makes me visit her apartment
>see her piano, ask her to play
>she sits, I hug her from behind while she plays
>didn't find any moment to be with her alone
>was so drunk I had to spend an hour in the bathroom
>graduate friend tells me I suck for not kissing her
>feel like shit for the rest of the night
>even Mali noticed
>make up some shitty excuse
>tell her some story I read on a feels thread
>she starts crying
>what I am doing ?

Yea, sorry for not waiting till end was bumping it a bit before 404

>>680343483
>after Mali's party, it's worse than ever
>doesn't even look at me (even during 2hour classes where we're face to face)
>some bro tells me I have to do something quickly
>decide to text her so I can get a date
>after 5 rough days, finally get it
>Sunday
>7:30

This is where things start to get really interesting
>early March
>date has two parts
>first at bar
>second outside
>arrive at bar
>sit on comfy chairs, rather distant
>not the best configuration
>immediately asks what I wanted to tell her >panicmodereturns
>invent some bs to avoid the truth
>tells me that each time she spoke to me, I was mean to her
>jokes n shit, I'm like this with everyone
>she eventually thought I no longer wanted her to speak to me
>ask her if she waited smth from me at her place : "wanted you to be here"
>Poland made her feel better but she's feelin almost as bad as before
>tried to leave Dick once again but didn't have the strength to resist his final "what's gonna happen to us now ?"
>so now she'll stay with him and she'll see how it goes
>we leave bar
>wants to walk home

Pic?

>>680343679
>March went pretty well
>she's happy to see me, sits next to me (didn't happen in months)
>text time to time
>ff early April
>her birthday is soon
>know she loves painting
>decide to offer her a painting of the romantic spot (pic related)
>bday day
>celebrates with her family
>decide to write some shit
>made this thinking about you, this place is related to you forever
>didn't see her in class that day
>call her after school
>"can I come to your place ?"
>see her, give her the present, ask her to open it once I'm gone
>10sec later, texts "That's SO cute"
>expected better
>but hey, just have to wait&see

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We need bumps

Bumps m8

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>>680343890
fuck I messed up my story

Starting from here
>>680343679
>>680343679
>>680343679
>gettin much closer
>both drank 6 glasses of wine, not drunk but we felt good
>we sit next to the water
>have great keks, enjoy the moment
>lays on her back, put my head on her belly, decide to move my head
>right on her tit (they're kinda big)
>ask if she's ok with it
>"as soon as you don't grab it, it's ok"
>we then move to the most romantic spot (pic related, right under the tree) >tells me she's too insecure to handle my jokes
>wants me to be nice, hug her n shit
>some point I move a bit far from her
>tells me to get back next to her
>we face for 5 seconds
>aand I didn't do shit... again
>bring her home (still live with parents)
>huge fucking hug

Some one save dis plz

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>>680344139
>March went pretty well
>she's happy to see me, sits next to me (didn't happen in months)
>text time to time
>ff early April
>her birthday is soon
>know she loves painting
>decide to offer her a painting of the romantic spot (pic related)
>bday day
>celebrates with her family
>decide to write some shit
>made this thinking about you, this place is related to you forever
>didn't see her in class that day
>call her after school
>"can I come to your place ?"
>see her, give her the present, ask her to open it once I'm gone
>10sec later, texts "That's SO cute"
>expected better
>but hey, just have to wait&see

>>680344274
>she didn't talk to me the next days
>painting must've fucked her up
>one day wake up to 4 texts of her
>3 nonsense and one (30min later) askin me what I'll do for my bday
>bday was a few days ago (mid April)
>class, asks me to sit next to her
>Will you invite me for your bday ? émoticône grin
>implying that wasn't in my mind for months already
>from this day we kept textin
>2 days before bday she left class
>texts me a pic of the romantic spot (it is not on her way home btw)
>feelsgoodman.jpg
>bday day
>receive text "check your mails"
>made a 3min long vid of me
>mostly moments of first semester (like BB's party)
>knows I lurk /b/ and love montages
>right in the feels
>time for the party to begin
Cont

>>680344391
>we're about 25
>close friends, bros, some family
>most of them know about Mali and I
>rarely speak to her at the beginning
>see she's happy to be here
>4-5 different friends tell me the way she looks at me leaves no doubt
>they feel absolute love in her eyes
>"tonight's the night Anon"
>once she's drunk, starts lookin sad
>want her to speak to me
>we go to the kitchen to be alone
>fellow /b/tard bro comes in, sees us and immediately shuts the door
>we were not disturbed then
>we sit on the floor
>her head on my shoulder, me holding her
>she starts crying
>"I'm so dumb to feel bad"
>I knew that was the occasion
>I knew I could kiss her
>but why didn't I do shit ?
Cont

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>>680344589
>spent 2 hours in kitchen
>spoke about summer break
>she's really interested in my plans
>when I propose her, instant no
>"I'll spend two weeks with family, then maybe one week with Dick"
>makes me think I have no chance
>sort of why I didn't find the balls to kiss her
>after kitchen, we all leave the flat (bday was at /b/ro's place)
>she says she'll walk home
>roundtwo.start
>On the way, we're closer than ever
>arm around her waist
>or her arm around mine
>sayin some drunk bs, should've kissed her to shut her mouth
>hug her
>we take the bus cos' too cold
>head on shoulder
>her place, huge hug again
>goes in and I REEEEEEEEEEE

If there isnt a happy ending to this i am going to be so pissed.

You didnt do shit because you are a gentlemen, or you are afraid

pls happy end..

Lurking OP

>>680344871
I know right

Final

>>680344836
>next day huge hangover
>feel like shit
>think friendzone is my destiny
>texts "thanks for supporting me émoticône smile"
>oh boy
>yesterday asks me if I wanna have lunch with her friends I don't know
>finally her friends can't
>we picnic just the two of us
>wanted to tell her about my feelings
>but as always don't want to shake her up
>end up with poor answers to my poor questions
>so much things to say
>yet can't find the right way to do so

I'm done /b/

I am torn between :
>Friends tellin me that if she truly loves me,
I just have to wait for her to leave Dick
and she'll be mine
>Others tellin she's frustrated by my betaness,
and I'm getting deeper in the friendzone doing nothing

Wat do /b/ ?

If you don't bang I'm the end, I'm gonna an hero

Is the story long or short at this point?

>>680345142
Stop being a pussy. Kiss her. Tell her. If you take no action, nothing will happen. Simple as that.

>>680344871
>>680345011
>>680345041
>>680345146
Nothing more atm sorry /b/ros

>>680344873
Both
What can I do then ?

Right m8. You just have to get her on her own again completely sober in a somewhat decent place; then you just go all in.

be a men now or you are going to hate yourself later for throwing away all the chances to be happy. Follow your heart no homo

>>680345142
I don't answer to these, but OP seems like a decent guy.
You have to come up with some balls, but there is still hope. Tell her you cannot wait any more for her to break up with Dick, you have been waiting bcause nice guy.
You are relationship material, and no girl, hugs that much with friends.

Alright OP. I was in the same spot as you are at one time in my life. Shit did not worked out and we are not speaking with each other. From that moment I decided that I will always go all in case of friendzoning. I meet my gf at a party. Nothing happened, texted her next day if she wanted to try thinga out. Now two tears later we are happy together. I would suggest you to just do it or leave it, see it as a life time lesson.

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>>680342072
http://www.thecoreofattraction.com/how-to-get-a-girlfriend-tutorial/

>>680345142
> nobody's walking the dinosaur
you had one job

Mate, this girl is totally into you, and judging from how ypu treat her plus the fact that you must've taken at least an hour to write this shit, you want this girl. If you believe you two will be happy together, just fucking go for it mate! You have to forget the 'but what if she says no?' Thoughts and just tell her and kiss the fuck out of her. If you keep tgis friendzone shit up, you will both end up devastated. Good luck /b/ro!

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>>680345142

Worst case scenario she doesn't feel the same way (although it's obvious af anyway), best case scenario you give her a reason to finally end it with Dick.

Just fucking go for it /b/ro. Talking from experience here how I got my gf.

Also meme to cheer you up

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>>680342072
OP take it from someone who messed up terribly with their first love. Just count to 3 and kiss her. She sounds like she really loves you but she needs you to show her you love her first. Thats all i got to say

Just write her something like:

Mali since i saw you and met you i have really enjoyed you beeing with me. The path i follow is a suicide one so thats why im telling you this. I love you
Im a /b/ so dont take my advice but send something

i have had this happend to me and in the end i think is sickness from both of you. tell her and 2 things can happend
she says no and you realize what a bitch she is and suffer miserably for not doing this early

she says yes and you two can both finally be fucking happy and asshole dick will sufer

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>>680345911
Nice dubs fam also kek for 911

>>680345911
Don't write a message. Don't give her even a second to think about how she's gonna react. If her instant reaction is negative, then you know it ain't meant to /b/

>>680345911
mentioning suicide is kinda low though. It feels like blackmail to me. I don't like when people say this kind of stuff.

>>680346102
Jet fuel can melt steal beams

>>680346198
Friendzone is like a suicide path, i didnt mean really suicide.

But i just said something not that i would write it eveah

OP here, thanks for your answers anons

I know she's into me, but the kissing her path is worrying me... I want it to be HER decision otherwise it's gonna end up pretty bad

So I almost read the entire story and you didn't even kiss her, fuck you, why so afraid?

>>680346785
If you wait for her to make a move how do you know she's not just doing the same?

Anon, just... FUCKING SAY IT. SPILL IT. SO WHAT IF SHE SAYS NO, AT LEAST SHE KNOWS YOU'RE AN OPTION. BETTER BE AN OPTION THAN NOT AT ALL JEEZUZ CHRIST DONT BE LIKE ME WHEN I WASA TEEN GOD DAMN IT REEEEEE

She also seems very insecure and unable to end it with Dick.
Sounds bad, but there are really people who cannot end relations unless they have someone else to justify it to a needy ex couple.

>>680346785
Then just confess you love her and you have been waiting all this time for her. But dont want to make a move since she has a relationship

Had a similar situation OP, finally just kissed her on a night out after drinking, and she's now been my gf for 2 years feels.jpg

>>680342072
Whether it goes wrong or not, this shit finally ends.
You can do it, good luck!!

>>680346785
she already took the dessision inviting you to get drunk together, raise some balls and DO IT.

i gotta go work but i really wish you can get her and dont suffer like i-

i think best way would be to be completly honest face to face sober not making a big deal having fun

kinda like, hey you know im a dumbass but i would like you to break with dick and be my girl i really like you and a kiss.

or something like that as much honest you can be without making it complicated,.

>>680346944
(cont) Also if you're worried about making someone cheat, if Dick has basically made her stay with him all this time when she's made her feelings clear then what can he expect

>>680347252
(cont) Whatever you do, DONT DO ANYTHING VIA MESSAGE

>>680345142
First off stop getting drunk so much. You are relying on alcohol to lessen your insecurities rather than dealing with them. Crutches are bad, m'kay. After you get your shit to togeather, kiss her you faggot. Note that she is also insecure af as she relies on alcohol as much as you, so enjoy a relationship of drama and co-dependency.

Alright OP seems like she just needs to confirm how you feel as dick has been holding her back she needs a reason to leave cause it seems as she sees it dicks all she has has

No need to take advice from just an anon just adding my 2 cents

>>680347511
Yeah OP. All I got from this is that you have an alcohol problem.

Oh my god this was such a fucking gay and pointless story. Just kiss her you fucking faggot.

>>680347511
>>680348108
Typed the story this afternoon, and yeah noticed alcohol is often present...

Should I rush ? Like set a date soon... Or take my time and wait for the next occasion she offers ?

>>680345142
Op you better kiss her

>>680345142
Good sir. Let me help you.

What you are experiencing is due almost entirely to your betaness. Mostly because you don't seem to understand what's really going on. This girl "Mali" wants you, she likes you, and she needs you. I've seen dozens of girls like her, they have a "boyfriend" who doesn't treat them right but they can't seem to leave them because of nebulous, idiotic reasons. She's gotten entrenched in a failed relationship and can't see a way out because breaking up hurts too much and she doesn't believe in herself enough to fight through it. Severing emotional ties is painful, for some people it's unbearable.

YOU need to be there for her. YOU are her way out. YOU are the one SHE chose to do this. She doesn't just want you, she wants you to rescue her from the pit she's dug with this other guy. Who, by the way, sounds like a huge man-baby and losing Mali will most likely destroy him (which is a good thing, you must always be willing to destroy weaker males, it's how they become better people or an hero).

And THIS: >>680347511
Dear lord baby jesus THIS: >>680347511
Stop being an alcohol and man up. If you want this girl you must act, kiss her, tell her your feelings in no uncertain terms, and most of all you must be her rock. To be with you she will endure the pain of losing a close emotional tie, you must comfort her through the worst of it, distract her through the remainder and then be there as her closest friend, confidant and lover (make sure that last one happens, make sure you fuck her on the regular once the fucking begins). This will cement your relationship in ways that will make leaving YOU significantly more painful than leaving "Dick", which of course means she's 99.999% gonna stick with you until you leave her.

You can do it anon. I believe in you.

>>680349106
This anon gets it

>>680345142
If you don't at least make a move, you will regret it--and I mean REGRET IT--for the rest of your life. Even if she were to not reciprocate your feelings, you can pick yourself back up and become a better person for it. If you do nothing, you will gain nothing. Just my two cents.

>>680346785
Let's look at some facts OP. She doesn't have it in her to break it off with Dick, be it because she's too nice or because she doesn't like confrontation, or both. Nothing wrong with that at all, it's just the kind of person she is. Now, do you really think someone like that is going to have it in them to make the first move with someone else, especially in a scenario like this? Of course not. There are some few cases where you can wait for the proverbial "her" to make the first move and have it work out fine, but this is not one of those cases. If you do nothing, nothing will be done.

>>680345142
if you want to be with her, you will have to open up eventually. you're the guy and you're supposed to make the first step. it sucks but i think even if you fuck up you dont have alot to lose. sure it would suck alot, but its better than you never trying and her just lose interest in you as a partner. the sooner you try, the higher is the chance you make it.

>>680349106
OP here
Thank you so much for this anon
How to sum this thread up in one big fucking meaningful post, will save this for motivation !

FUCKING FAG §§

MEC TKT AVEC LA MARCHE CA VA TENDURCIR ET APRES TAURA LE COURAGE

At this point I don't know how fucking retarded you have to be not to realize she won't do anything. She's stuck. You're single, it's your role to make the move and relieve her from the guilt of leaving her bf.
Don't act like you have anything to lose, there's 3 fucking billion of them and you're not dying of cancer

m8 i had too many regrets about a few girls i should have clearly kissed and fucked sensless but didn't because i din't know how they would react only to later realize they clearly wanted it

don't be a faggot. do it. death or glory

AND DON'T FUCKING DO IT VIA TEXT THAT WOULD BE THE WORST POSSIBLE WAY

>>680345142
Be embarrassed for like 5 min while drunk, of live a life of regret. Not even a doubt in my mind, you need to go for it.

>>680343517
I'll bump

BIG DICKY STRONG FOR MARION ;;; HEU MALI SRY

Alright OP I among many other anons want to see the outcome whether you fuckup.exe or not so make sure to post the outcome at a later date or something for our time spent helping with your betaness

I just have a question for OP. Why you didn't kiss her until now?

- You are a white knight and don't want to cheat on Dick
- You are ultimate-shy guy
- Other ?

>>680352374
Gonna save this thread (if someone did, please send) and ofc you'll know

>>680352798

>you are a white knight and don't want to cheat on Dick
meh
>you are ultimate-shy guy
absolutely not
>other
have trouble expressing my feelings ONLY in the case of girls I like/love.
Plus she's in my class and will be for the next 2 years, so don't wanna act unless 100% sure

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>>680345142
Well aside from the fact you're obviously an emotional tampon for her right now
>I'm not trying to be a dick anon trust me this is just my observation on you
You NEED to try and kiss her, if she pulls away then fine leave she's not for you, if she kisses back then nice you're in there. Don't get dragged along fag xo

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op needs to chill, this happened to me back in my drug dealer phase

>be me
>selling weed
>a mate is coming to pickup
>hes buying for the first time
>wants a sense of
>'security'
whatever.png
>asks me to meet me at the bus stop
>kewl
>waiting
>waiting
>waiting
>where the fuck is this nigger
>police man approaches me
ohfuck.webm
>he searches me
>finds the 3/8ths
>i was gunna sell
>he puts it in his top pocket
>and says
>i apologise for wasting your time
'sir'
>wtf
>sprint home as fast as i can
>fuck fuck fuck
>open my front door
>run up to room
>empty pockets
>mfw police man paid for the weed he took

>>680353243
You will be never sure. Because we are human and all differents. So force your heart to forget this stupid uncertainity and just follow your love. And if it goes wrong, well there is plenty of others girls in the world. Dunno where you live, but it will not make you the dumbass of your school for two years, whatever you do after kissing her. But if you don't do anything now, you will be it, if your story is true

DUDE JUST DO IT AND CURSE URSELF LATER

Bottom line op, if you keep doing what you've been doing, you're gonna keep getting what you've already got. You must make the choice to engage in change, or decide you want things to stay the way they are.

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>>680346102
this pic

fuck i love memes

>>680345142
OP, what would you rate yourself? I'm serious, it sucks, but if you're fat/ugly, she might just be trying to be nice. That, and she'll freak out if you kiss her. Post a picture if yourself and possibly her for comparison.

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Ok OP, Let's narrow this down. It's really fuckin' simple.

How many opportunities did you have where she literally throws herself at you, and you did nothing? Your graduate friend is right, you fucking suck! If you had kissed her long ago the first time, she'd probably be yours by now. Start showing her initiative. Show her you're willing to compete for her. Grow some balls, ask her to meet you, and grab her by the waist, pull her in and start making out with her. If she pushes away and resists, well there you go. Go chase someone else. If she lets you kiss her, then boom you're in.

You fucking betas.. courting the same woman (who has a bf) for an entire school year... Just make a move. She's given you a mountain of hints. She's sad because she doesn't know why you won't make a move on her. Eventually she'll get bored or tired of trying with you and move on.

OP
Kiss her. She probably doesn't know what to do either. If she can know 1000% youre intrested she will change to get with you. I was in your position 4 months ago, finally made a move and the girl i wanted changed alot to be with me and be around me. If you start something she will too, meaning she might really leave dick. Try it, better to know for sure if she loves you then not know at all. Best of luck for you, OP.

Dude why don't you start telling her about this girl you've met? Just start ignoring her more and acting distant and she'll go insane. That's what you want. If she runs back to that faggot then so be it it was never meant to be but if she gets closer and tries harder to gain your attention then go for it. It's the only way to hurry this shit the fuck up.

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>>680355933
no worries on that anon

>>680356566
been doing that for a while, now we've gone too far. Check what anons said

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>>680345142
Oh my fucking god OP....
I cringed so hard, but i know what you feel..i've been through that phase of betaness...
You have to make a move, and kiss her...if you won't, you'll lose her. Its this simple.
And this whole "wait for her to brake up with her bf" is fucked up man... the best way to forget someone (her bf in this case) is to start something new with someone "new" (you in this cas)
I fucked up so many times like this in the past...dude you gonna regretit for sooo fucking long time..
Man the fuck up OP

>>680342072
You're a faggot please kill yourself you fucking nerd.

>>680342072
hang urself dumbass