>>680144720
>Gun to head
>Pull trigger
>Be the hero we all need

>>680144902
Oddly enough, I'm Texan and own a few guns. However, suicide is not an option, as I genuinely enjoy life.

You'll regret if you do that without her knowing... Try to speak with her and let her know that you are not ready for this
Sorry about your situation bro

It's legal to disappear. Pick a state you've never been to nor talked about going to and go.

>>680144720
Don't google it on your own computer. Libraries are good. Be supportive as fuck, couple months later... :(

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Either move to another state and delete your social media's and other connections to her and anyone that knows her. Or raise the kid you don't want and get financially fucked for the rest of your life. It doesnt stop after 18 years because after that your life is still dictated by the situation of having a kid, the decisions you made, and the financial aftermath.

Or you can just choose the nigger way out and sock the bitch right in the belly.

>>680144720
If she's not giving you a say, then you present her with a choice, but don't tell her it's a choice.

Does she want to seriously have this baby?

If she does then you have to kill yourself. That's her choice. She is choosing the baby over you.

I'm pro-life: once that baby shows up, your life is fucking over.

$250,000 average cost to raise a child to age 18. This means you're gonna be poor forever.
66% of couples report a significant decrease in satisfaction with the relationship on arrival of first child. Situation doesn't improve until youngest child leaves the house. This means you will start to hate each other before you've even really had a good long healthy relationship together.

Sorry it's over.

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>>680144720
>Is there a way out?

Picture related.

>>680144720
explain that you are not ready, explain that this will become problematic for her, her kid and will ruin any chance you have at having a proper family, ask her if she is really willing to sacrifice a kid for her own selfish feelings instead of having one when the time is right and the kid will actually be in focus

seriously, she is not thinking about anyone but herself and she is fucking herself over too without knowing it

show her pictures of failed single moms, ask if this is what she want for her kids, ask her if she want the kid to become a gangster or a drug addict etc

>>680146220
>66% of couples report a significant decrease in satisfaction with the relationship on arrival of first child.
That's because 66% of couples shouldn't of had a kid or been together in the first place.

>>680146220
There's some truth in this

>>680144720
Fatherhood is awesome.

Grow up. Adolescence isn't supposed to last forever.

>three kids
>2 year old daughter said "I love you dada" for the first time last weekend

>>680144720
No power? You had plenty of power when you plowed her. Idiot.

>>680144720
>I just hate how men have no power in this situation
You had the power in the situation that led to this situation. If you couldn't deal with you dick, you have to deal with the baby. Be a man.

>>680146634
What's your point? 50% of marriages get divorced. If statistics only included successful people who make good decisions, well...that wouldn't be an accurate statistic, would it?

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>>680144720
>I just hate how men have no power in this situation.
Welcome to why vagina is evil. EVERY WOMAN on this planet's end game is to get knocked up. All women want kids... where most guys just want to fuck... nature works this way to fuck men over. It's how it's been from the beginning of time and how it will always be. Welcome to the downside of being a straight man. Pussy will always and forever ruin your life.

>>680146634
you said some words but they changed nothing, what was the point?

>>680146634
are you straight retarded?
http://lifehacker.com/this-infographic-reveals-the-secrets-of-the-happiest-co-1518305669

couples would love to work things out and stay together. this has nothing to do with the divorce rate or faulty relationships.

This is simply the fact that being a parent is fucking awful, and most couples know it, and 2 in 3 couples stop enjoying THE RELATIONSHIP because of those god damn kids. Do you see the disconnect?

>>680146744
fatherhood should still only come on your terms, if you get forced into it against your will then its not the same, the kid will become a representation of your ruined life and it would become difficult to have a good relationship to it

>>680144720

You had the power to pull out, and you didn't. Now you have the power to deal with the repercussions.

If it was totally a mistake, then tell her as much.

>>680146977
you're a moron, ever heard of a vasectomy or condoms?

>>680146772
Maybe the condom broke. Maybe she's not on birth control. Maybe she's overweight so the birth control she's on is less effective.

The decision they made was to fuck for pleasure, not to have children.

Don't berate him for something you want to do too, or at least most of us want to do too.

Do you know why abstinence-based sex education doesn't work at reducing teen pregnancy?

>>680147109
>Work 40 hours/week each
>Now have kid
>Still have to dedicate entire day to just work already
>If you have to leave work due to child related things you're crucified
Seems like it isn't the child's fault more like the fault of the parents / bosses for not scaling back hours or giving longer than 1 week maternity / paternity leave.

>>680144720
Man the fuck up kid. Own your situation. Plenty of people "can't" do the responsible thing when it happens. I thought I was going to be the same way.

Never got to date my high school sweetheart, but we kept in touch and had a couple nights of passion, then I moved away about 6 years ago. 3 years ago I went down to where I used to live and we reconnected, even though she had a bf, we hooked up. It was the most romantic and erotic experience of my life, but she wasn't on birth control and I finished balls deep. Needless to say, she called me a month later telling me the news.

Did I fucking complain? No. I was a scared fuck, but I did love her, and I did the responsible thing. She's a wonderful woman, and my little one is amazing and smart and just as beautiful as her mother. Don't let the fear consume you. I'm glad we didn't get an abortion. You will be too in time.

Life never hands us anything we can't handle, and our plan for life isn't always what ends up being the case.

>>680147161
>repercussions
you could have used a fucking spell checker, but you didn't, and now we know you're retarded. Deal with it.

>>680147413
>paternity leave
you do realize how long children live, right?

like, it's not a month of diapers and laundry and then everything is back to normal.

they live in your house for 18 or more years (more because of things like reduced buying power, increasing student loans, and stalling job markets meaning millenials are living with parents longer and longer).

And parents are still responsible for things like health insurance until they are 26 (?) or something.

And they slowly ween off needing you for everything. But that's if they're GOOD children who pay attention and don't fight back on everything.

>>680147477
what if there was no love and the woman was a horrible person?
What if the only thing you had was lust and now she wants to bring a kid into the mix?

you're a fucking moron, try to realize that not every situation is a copy of yours.

All those extra details you added to make it a good thing does not mean shit here because they were ADDED BY YOU

>>680147735
I agree with you overall but its not a secret that more time at the start helps and that families who are offered more leave in relation to the kid usually have less stress and manage to find the work balance a lot faster than those who have to live with the panic from day one

>>680144720
If you're white and she's white keep the kid and take responsibility
If you're black however just do what daddy did

Man the fuck up. You were willing to have unprotected sex with her and knew the consequences. Trying to kill her unborn child is illegal and immoral. If she wants the baby and wants you to be a father to it, MAN UP AND FUCKING DO IT.

>>680149016
you sound like a loser

>>680147122
Forced on you? There is such a thing as birth control. You didn't use it, now it's time to man up.

>>680149016
>if she wants

Cuck detected.

>>680149105
I'm assuming you're a negro aren't you?

>>680145782
this
RUN OP
RUN
take it from a /b/ro who didn't do the same and has been raising a kid since 16

all your monies gone
all your freedoms gone
all your peace and quiets gone

>>680144720
The responsible thing isn t suicide
The responsible thing is to talk to her, get her clear that you are NOT willing to be a father for X and Y and Z reasons, and that if she chose to give birth, she will have to do it alone.
Then if she still want the child, make her sign a paper where she leave her right on pursuing you for money, take it, and change state and identity.

>>680144720

Tom Leykis 'Hail Mary' ... Look it up. It's your only hope.

>>680149211
No, I'm a white Norwegian who won't be stepped on by anyone, my life is for me to live, I don't care how mad it makes you

>>680149360
Not even the same anon but your race is dying out, you sure you want OP to abort it?

>>680145038
Which part?

>>680148347
Even being no love, there is still responsibility, and duty to the child. You took the actions to create it, and you need to own up to it.

The world is full of people who scoff their responsibilities to their children and that's part of why this world is so shit right now. All the kids with no dicipline, no sense of self respect, needing "safe spaces" and to have things handed to them. They don't understand the hard lessons.

Did I want a kid? Fuck no. Was I planning to, or even wanting to spend my life with her? No. But life changed things, and now we are together. It's not always easy, but I choose to look on the bright side. I have an amazing woman by my side who works hard, I work hard in kind, and we work together to do what's best for our daughter. We were both in school at the time and being poor ass college students didn't help, but we made it.

No, not every situation is like mine, but you make the best of what you have. Even if you don't stay with the girl, be a father, be a dad. That child NEEDS YOU, whether or not you need or even want them.

>>680149472
Which part of life?

So far my career choice is fair. It pays enough for me to live in a trendy mid-rise near my work. I have great family and friends.

>>680149413
I don't really care about race, the only reason I added it was to prove the other anon wrong.

I already said I live my life for me, why would I care about something as arbitrary as race?

>>680144720
Maybe you shouldn't had been the foot stool that you are and became the responsible guy that you could have been. You wanted to fuck and creampie her, now deal with it, you wanted that to happen anyway. Damn this generation, is why we are all plunging into overpopulation.

>>680149544
or, you can get an abortion and there's no bullshit ruining your life over a bad situation, imagine that

>>680147361
>Maybe the condom broke. Maybe she's not on birth control. Maybe she's overweight so the birth control she's on is less effective.
If a condom breaks and you can't tell, you're too stupid to be having sex. If she's not on birth control, he should have wore a condom. If she's too fat for birth control to be effective, he shouldn't have fucked her.

>The decision they made was to fuck for pleasure, not to have children.
The primary function of sex is to produce children. Take the proper precautions to prevent it.

>Don't berate him for something you want to do too, or at least most of us want to do too.
He's not being berated for having sex. He's being berated for being stupid.

>Do you know why abstinence-based sex education doesn't work at reducing teen pregnancy?
Because it doesn't work. What's your point? Birth control, nigger. >>680147361

>>680144720
Buy an Intra Arms AS-51 and shoot the lil fagetus

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>>680144720
Op, have you heard of the great captain falcon? He may be able to teach you a special move to get you out of this situation.

>>680144720
Your time to do the "responsible" thing has passed.

>>680147189
Kids or no, there are plenty of ways a woman can fuck a man over. Plenty. The fact of the matter is that as long as any man has the urge and inclination to go out and get laid he's putting himself at risk for any kind of legal trouble at worst and or a ridiculous amount of drama.

>>680144720
>I just hate how men have no power in this situation.
You fucked her without a condom or birth control. You had the power to use protection or to not fuck her at all. Now you are stuck for being a dumb waste of space who couldn't think without his dick. I'm glad you're fucked, hope it doesn't work out between you two and she rams your ass with child support two you fucking phaggot.

>>680149618
No, we don't care about your life. Just curious about where in Texas

>>680144720
piece of shit

>>680150150
Implying the woman didn't lie about being on bc
Implying the man is 100% at fault
Implying you don't jerk off to cuck porn and cry yourself to sleep.

How to avoid dropping below the poverty line

>1. Stay in school

>2. Get Married

>3. Don't have children out of wedlock

The statistics never lie

>>680150150
>sure im on the pill anon
If you really think its always mens fault then I have some news for you. You are a enormous cuck. No girl will ever touch you. Not even the crazy ones. No matter how hard you try.

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>>680150343
mah nigga

>>680144720
Marry her

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>>680150152
Kek'd

>>680144720
Be responsible adult and deal with the consequence of your actions. Love your woman and a child and take good care of them.

>>680147502
>>repercussions
>you could have used a fucking spell checker, but you didn't, and now we know you're retarded. Deal with it.

That's spelled correctly. You're a special kind of stupid.

>>680144720
Take care of the kid lol.

If she wasn't on the pill why didn't you strap up, OP?

>>680149360
>norwegian
So how are the sandniggers?

>>680144720
Fake your own death and start all over again

>>680150312
>>680150343
Two morons who fell for another whores lies and didn't use condoms. I hope you both are already getting fucked with parenthood. Makes sense since you are both so fucking butt sensitive to the subject. Phaggots

>>680149822
So go abort yourself. Problem solved.

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Run. There's no shame. If you believe in a god, then you're going to Hell. But at least you'll be able to live your life.

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>>680150127
this fucking man gets it. All men want deep down is to fuck, all we ever do with the kindness of our hearts is to eventually get pussy at the end of it. Women are smart and understand this now

pic is OC of my sister who I fucked when she needed cash off me

Don't be a pussy. I raised 2 kids as a single father. If I did it you can do it. Just don't let the bitch keep the Baby. Or you'll pay through tour teeth.

>>680149110
Men's reproductive rights: the one issue where you can get even a pro choice die hard feminist to unironically say "you should have thought of that before you had sex".

>>680149544
reading your post there is only one thing that really make sense to me: abortion.

If anyone is to blame its the mothers who willingly push their kids into this knowingly instead of being responsible and taking that damned abortion.

>>680149544
also: you rationalize to make your own situation feel better it seems, very scary. Hope I never end up there.

>>680146477
This guy right here OP. I literally have just come out of the same thing, i got in her ear about how we wanted the perfect relationship with the perfect kid and now just wasn't the time. I have since left her tho, shit really tore me up but i knew i did the right thing, just be with her and be honest and supportive as fuck

>>680150840
projecting much? no kids here lil nigga, stay salty tho

>>680149832
it was still an accident, the chick should take responsibility and abort before its too late and they get a kid born into a bad situation

>>680150127
sure, just as there are many ways for you to fuck her over, or for you to fuck your friends over etc

what is your point? in my experience women don't fuck men over more than men fuck each other over, some men however do whine and bitch a lot more about it when a woman does it though

>>680146744
Grandpa get off /b/.

>>680150525
>Be responsible adult and deal with the consequence of your actions

tell that to the girl who is trying to avoid getting an abortion, if anyone is neglecting their responsibility its her, and she is bringing the kid down with her if she gets her way

>>680150714
You're thinking about Sweden mate

ayy

>>680147477
I hate this person

>>680145038
Um.. Who said anything about suicide ?

>>680146744
>have kid
>kid is entirely dependent upon your care
>food, water, shelter all from one or two people
>says i Love you
WHOOPTIE FUCKIN DOO!!! OBVIOUSLY IT HAS TO OTHERWISE IT"S SOOL

>>680151335
>no kids here lil nigga,
Translation: I ain't never had any pussy

>>680146477

Women do not think with logic. Trying to explain anything like this to her won't work.

>>680145336
Not everyone can just up and go. You probably can you lonely cunt

>>680146477
This. Shes being emotional and not thinking logically.

I understand maybe you didn't put on a rubber or it broke but you guys are obviously not ready to make a big commitment like having a kid. I'm pretty sure you two don't have everything in life mapped out. Having a kid will throw a wrench into any plan you have. You know people who have kids early, those relationships don't last and theres too much drama and money woes. You have to explain to her that neither one of you is ready for this. If she keeps it, the two of you are going to have to sacrafice everything. There is no other way.

All these people saying man up are fucking idiots OP. As if bringing a child into this world while emotionally and financially unstable is manning up. Berate her, make her feel like shit, threaten to leave, do whatever it takes to either manipulate or scare her into not having your kid. Really ramp it up. Go all out.

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>>680149349
Ah, you know of the professor?

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>>680144720
>Curious /b/

>My girlfriend told me three weeks ago she was pregnant. She planned the entire abortion on her own and when it came to the day of I drove her to the clinic. She then backed out at the door and
>now I'm feeling like I can't deal with it.

>I even googled how to slip her an abortion pill, but I don't want to go to prison. I just hate how men have no power in this situation.

>Is there a way out? I can't do the "responsible" thing.

>>680144720
suicide

I got a girl pregnant when I was 18, it was bad on top of bad as I was very immature. He's not so bad, he's even a little funny once in a while. he's 17 now and I'm glad I have an heir and I'm only 36. I never even suggested we didn't have him.

Then I got a different girl pregnant and we had an abortion, fucked her up pretty bad. Then we got pregnant again and had the baby. She ended up being horrible and took my daughter and bolted 5 years ago. It's been far harder on me going through that than having kids.

Kids are fun. Expensive and smelly but rewarding and help you grow as a person. Point is though, once you spooge in her in my opinion it's out of your control. I've came in girls I was cheating on people with and have just been lucky enough to not knock them up. Don't be a tool man.

Take care of your child and grow the fuck up. Life isn't all about you.

>>680144720
You can do the responsible thing.
Bring childrend into this world it will make a grown-up out of you.
Quit yer whining, man the fuck up.
Have the kid, it will change your life for the better, if you'll let it that is.
Yes you will stink, you will be pissed, shat, and barfed upon.
You will lose sleep more than you would volunteer for guarding a harem full of marilyn Monroes and it will mess you up good.
Your relationship will be under more duress from everyday things than you'd ever though possible.
You will spend cash hand over fist feeding and caring for this thing.
And you will fear continuously for its well being.
But your life will be more fulfilled than you ever thought possible, you will be loved more than you'd ever imagine, so much you will look at your mother and ask yourself "who is this woman?" compared to the relationship you will have with your child.
And yes, you will be willing to die for it.
You will be willing to throw yourself on a flaming pyre if you'd think it would help your child.
Do the right thing OP.
anything else is cowardice and you will lose all of my respect.

>>680152854
This.

and we need to outbreed niggers, sandniggers and beaneaters OP.
Do your part.

Just put large quantities of parsley in everything, it will cause a miscarriage

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>>680144902
No, no, no this guy's got it all wrong
>>680145038
You should kill HER! Force her to write a runaway letter 1st then blow her brains out. After that take a boat out into the Gulf and make sure you see some sharks. Throw her body to the sharks and enjoy the show.
Look at the smile you can put on their face when you offer them something to eat

Use a condom u twat

>>680152854
This. Well said /b/ro. I respect you.

>>680150947
moar.

its a real life living human in there, they're just little just let her have it dude shit. at least give it out to adoption, dont kill something that has a heart beat

>>680152228
women understand logic just fine if you make it clear you won't have their bullshit, if every time they try to create drama etc you dismiss them with a sigh and leave without ever getting drawn into it emotionally then they quickly stop

the only reason they do it is because it helps them get their way, if that no longer works they will try something else, for example logic

>>680152854
idiot

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>>680153041
While either this or
>>680152854
That, good point anon. Perhaps he should let the kid be born and stay with her for a bit. Then if she causes any drama and tries to leave his ass and take his kid away and try to sue him for all his stuff like most cunts do then he should still adhere to my idea
>pic related can be prevented with murder

>>680152320
This. Basically the only logical response I've seen here

You're a fucking asshole, OP. That's YOUR baby, you created it and you wanna kill it. Go fuck yourself.

>>680144720
get into a car crash with the gif.
Hit a telephone pole at 60mph.

>>680153274
Very eloquent 16-year old reply.
Grow a few pubes before you enter into dialogue with the grown-ups will you ?

>>680145336
this

>>680150038
I don't think he needs Captain Falcon to teach him how to sit down and have a conversation with his girlfriend about it like a responsible adult.

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>>680146220
>I'm pro-life
>you have to kill yourself
fuck you
fuck your kind
picture related

>>680147477
>thinks she wont do the same thing with her other old flames
enjoy raising
>'your kid'
m8

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>>680153339
Remember, anon this is 4chan. They either want to kill children or do other disgusting things to them. Most these folks ain't like you and me. I suppose we're the only moralfags 'round this here side of the interwebz

>>680144720
Just pull a nigger-move and bail.

It's not your choice what she does with her body, but it's your choice whether or not you stick around and raise some loser.

Chances are, neither of you have any business being parents anyway. Leave her with the burden she DECIDED to impose on herself and you.

>>680146634
This. My girlfriend and I have been together since high school, we're now both 29 and have a 2-year- old and we love each other and our son very much. It's usually immature faggots that have sex on their first dates that relationships suffer.

>>680144720 OP

Personally I think in these situations the man should be exempt from supporting the thing. You both wanted the abortion, then only she changed her mind, now surely unless you pretend to love her and be with her you will be financially supporting the little shit way more than she will have to.

Try to skip town? Make sure she has absolutely No way to ever speak to you?
Kill?

>>680152515

I know the professor well.

For the OP's benefit, and also for faggots who will one day end up like OP, I'm going to describe the Hail Mary. It's the only play available aside from the woman accidentally herself.

The Hail Mary comes after the woman has told you she's not going to have an abortion. You get her alone and have a 'heart felt' conversation about how you see an amazing future with her with marriage and children and the picket fence. You tell her how much you want to be with her, but this moment in time is not right to start the family you both want together (you're still in school or you don't have the career you want now, or you're strapped for cash), but now is not the time to start this wonderful family. And that sadly, to achieve this perfect future bliss, you both need her to have this terribly unfortunate procedure - blah blah blah. Hold her, stroke her hair, kiss her forehead, talk about what kind of ring she wants - hell even propose marriage to her if she'll agree to the abortion so you can start planning your loving life together. Fucking get it?

So with all of these promises you get her to agree and you are there to schedule the appointment (ASAP) at the clinic - like the next morning. And this is IMPORTANT - you go with her to the clinic. You wait for her to come out and you pay the bill - get the receipt to prove it's been done.

Then you dive her to McDonald's, while breakfast is still being served - because this is the next morning - and you buy her an Egg McMuffin, then drive her home.

Then you NEVER contact her again. Toss your phone and change your email address. Don't ever see her again.

So before you think this is heartless, the reality of this situation is that if she agrees to have an abortion after your talk with her, then she was playing you like a chump. Using the pregnancy to trap you - for your future earning, your family's assets, or just because she's a crazy bitch.

>>680144720
The responsible thing?

Don't knock a girl up, and don't murder a fucking unborn human because you're too chicken shit to do the "responsible" thing.

Marry your girlfriend, work hard to get a good job, and do right by the kid. Here in 8 years you'll have a permanent little dude or dudette to play video games with, watch movies, etc. It won't be so bad, life goes on, you're just growing up quicker than you expected.

>>680153962
This. My 15-year-old son and I play and watch football together, on summers we go on vacation, etc. and I had doubts about having a kid when it all happened too quickly for me. It all came out of nowhere. But now I'm the happiest guy in the world and seeing my son happy is the only thing I care about. OP, listen to him and I.

>>680153868
you are a moron if you think the sex and when they have it is the problem, you gotta be american right? christian parents? lol

>>680146378

theyre using an inflate fetish device.

Leave town, my buddy left town after knocking up some clingy bitch

>>680152320
Every Faggot saying "man up" should be taken out back and shot. Having a kid when you're not financially or emotionally ready is selfish. It disregards what is in the child's best interest which is to be raised in a financially and emotionally stable environment between two people in a stable relationship. Any idiot saying "man up" and disregarding these facts is perpetuating a cycle in which the poor and destitute overbreed, and bring children in the world who as young adults make the same mistake as their parents due to their inadequate upbringing. Again to reiterate, EVERY FAGGOT SAYING "MAN UP" IS A FUCKING IDIOT OP. DO NOT LISTEN TO THEIR MISINFORMED POOR BETA RHETORIC. Don't join them in their failure to preserve their freedom. Berate her and destroy her if that's what it takes to get what you both need. Then eventually when you are a financially and emotionally stable mature and capable adult you can choose to bring a child into the stable environment they deserve.

>>680153339
Jesus I hope this isn't real. If it is please kill yourself

>>680144720
Ever heard of "dine and dash"?

You've had your meal. Time to run.

>>680154297
American but not religious at all. I just know because I've seen many friends fuck on the first date, have a child and their relationship suffered from it. Same with my brother. My wife and I were together for 9 years before we got married, then had our son. We just used protection and caution for those 9 years leading up until we felt responsible enough to be able to raise and support a child. Again, neither of us are religious, we're just not idiots.

>>680153412
You're an idiot if you're advocating for having this kid and you should definitely with out a doubt kill yourself

>>680154550
Well on a positive note, thank god this faggot isn't procreating.
Keep sticking a fork in your kids Anon, so we don't have to deal with your failed-by-proxy offspring.

OP on the other hand: MAN THE FUCK UP.

Listen to the Professor.

"You need to bring up the subject of abortion with every ounce of verbal finesse and situation-appropriate sensitivity. You should sound as sincere as possible and tell her that you want her to be the mother of your children one day, but that now is not the right time to start a family. Explain you want to wait until you are further along in your career/life goals and you can afford to give your future family all the comforts of life you cannot deliver today. Finally, explain if she has the abortion now, you will be able to plan your lives together so that everything is perfect. Then, after she agrees and has the abortion, stop by McDonalds on the way home, get her an Egg McMuffin and then dump her. It’s called a “hail mary” in part because of its difficulty to execute, so if you stay with her post-abortion and she becomes pregnant again you’re really fucked."

>>680144720
Nigger?
Fucking without protection.
What you expecting?

>>680154735
Femanon here. I just love babies, and seeing any human being (it is technically alive) die before it even has a chance to live is selfish as fuck.

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>>680153339
You all are fucking idiots that should read this and stop spewing ignorance >>680152320

My fiance is having our first baby in a few months. Little boy. I'm just glad it's not a girl because I'd probably end up worshipping her feet and trying to turn myself into her sex slave when I got older.

>>680153932
Thank god there are people like you here amoung a sea of pathetic fucking illogical idiots. OP GET OVER HERE RIGHT NOW and disregard every other idiotic reply

>>680153962
God I hope this is bait and you're not really this much of a fucking idiot

>>680154927

It's hard to execute because guys don't put the effort in to study it and then try to modify the play, thinking they know better than the professor. Guess what, gents, you don't know better. This is your fucking life and money for the next 20 years and you don't want that tied to some bitch that you'll have to deal with every day of it. Take this shit seriously and work the plan - treat it like cancer growing on you because it is. You have a parasite growing on you and you need to get it off. You need to get rid of it.

>>680151599
>in my experience

You're generalizing, My point is that woman have the upper hand period in that if a woman decides to fuck a man over she has a ton of options to choose from, from legal troubles to making the man a social outcast. Or both. Very rarely do you hear of a man basically ruining a woman's life to either degree.

>some men bitch a lot more.

Yeah so do a lot if not most women. I'll generalize with you now and say that without fail everyone woman I've met, young and old has a story about that one asshole guy who x amount of years ago did this horrible and thing they still haven't gotten over, though they say they have.

I could generalize ever further and say that anyone you talk to has these kinds of experiences or stories. Which bring me back to my original point, women have the upper hand in life fucking over men. Hence why men should be careful about use express and share it.

>>680155579
How is he a fucking idiot? Because he learned having a kid can turn out to be a very great thing and possibly the happiest thing that will ever happen to you? Fucking idiot.

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What the fucking fuck is the cucks to females in this thread? This is a FEMINIST world. Women have all the choices, all the privileges, this is true in America and Europe.

There is no MEN PILL. Its just not here yet, so girls can take sperm from your condom, stick it up and own you. Stop being a "nice guy". There is a fight going on, and all this traces back to the current feminist world we live in, and i'm ignoring batshitinsane feminazis.

MGTOW: Agree or not with this philosophy take the bits that you empathise with. Learn. Be a red pill. In a war there are no rules, and girls know that, they'll rape you.

>>680155579
Yeah, what fucking moron would have a child, right?

>>680152913
>Implying an overpopulation of unsupported white people will improve the situation.

>>680155047
Haha yep kill yourself. What's selfish is bringing a child into the world when you're not a financially and emotionally stable adult in a stable relationship. Op watch out for cunts like this

>>680145983
>the nigger way out

aw that's rich m8

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>>680155747
Look another idiot

Adoption an option?

>>680154769
must be American culture then, a culture that happen to be heavily influenced by Christianity.

seriously, you talk about timing for fucking and then somehow let that decide if they use protection or not?

you said the relationship suffered because they fucked on the first date

I say that is bullshit, but obviously having a kid on the first date is a horrible idea..

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Just think about this OP. If you have children you can be like this man. Build a successful and great company, raise them right and eventually run for president and even build a wall if you want.

>>680144720
Leave the girl in peace you total faggot. Get your shit together and grow some balls. You fucked her now you can't do the "responsible"?! Go fuck yourself.

>>680155047
8/8, nice b8

>>680155715
knowing these things should be enough for you to shift the position of power to your favor.

Not for your gender as a whole, but for you personally, and if you personally have managed that, does it really matter what happens to the rest?

>>680144720
Refuse to rais the child you do have a choice. You are just too much of a faggot to deal with the consequences