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Why have you not gone vegan yet /b/ ?

> "because we are omnivores"
we are not, only herbivores can develop atherosclerosis
> "eating meat is natural"
rape is also natural, male ducks gangbang female ducks
> "tell that to a lion"
lions are OBLIGATE carnivores, they cannot survive on plants
> "because I like the taste of meat"
there's lots of plant alternatives and you'll learn to love them over time, that's not an excuse that justifies animals being killed for you
>pic related brownies I made
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>>680008920
because I don't want to
because I love steak
because vegan food tastes like death
because I like to piss of vegans by eating meat in front of them
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Because I love plants
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because animals and females want to be eaten
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>>680008920
your brownies look like shit.
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#plant lives matter
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>>680008920
because im not a faggot and enjoy eating delicious meats.
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>>680008920
Because I am alergic to beans
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>>680008920
Vegan stuff tastes like shit, I eat vegetables with my steak.
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They look alright, but I'm pretty confident that they taste like shit. Let's hear that recipe. I bake/cook alot & tasty vegan brownies are pretty rare.
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>>680008920
>those brownies
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>>680008920
Vitamin b12

>inb4 suppliments they are not the bioactive verisons of B12 for humans
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10552882

sage
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>>680008920
Because the concept of death doesn't bother me in any way. What right to life does anything have?
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>>680008920
because I'm not a faggot
>"vegans and healthier though"
the vegans I know look like anorexics who could be blown over by a stiff breeze.
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Im a straight male who hates the taste of cock. I can't be a vegan by definition.
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>>680008920
Because I'm not a faggot
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ITT op is either a female or a faggot.
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>>680009693
Just to add to the reason to eat meat for B12

Vitamin B12 deficiency can potentially cause severe and irreversible damage, especially to the brain, nervous system, mania, psychosis, anemia, permanent neurological damage

Vitamin B12 is a co-substrate of various cell reactions involved in methylation synthesis of nucleic acid and neurotransmitters
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>>680008920
because it's fun to piss of whiny bitch type vegans :)
Why don't you chew on the barrel of a gun? That's not meat and it also makes the world a better place just like you vegans set out to do
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>>680008920
Crustydryshittyvegancocoasoysubstitute/10
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>>680010457
My browns don't need sauce to jive em up faggot
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Because humans ARE omnivores. If we weren't meant to eat meat we wouldn't have canines. So being a faggot.
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>>680009168
>Implying you have anyone to eat in front of.
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>>680009946
>the vegans I know look like anorexics who could be blown over by a stiff breeze.
majority of them do. fucking fags always trying to preach their bullshit veganism to everyone.
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>>680010548
true that I try not to keep contact with vegan peasants
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>>680008920
Is there milk and eggs in said brownies?
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>>680008920
I eat vegan all the time, but let's be honest anon. There will never be a time where human beings are not purposely raising animals to slaughter and eat them. You may see it as excuses but without domestication society would have never existed, and it is such an integral part of society that since it's creation no society has gone without it. At the end of the day your hippie green ass is here because your ancestors killed and ate meat whether it was hunted or domesticated.
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>>680009581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi0ly3gqCh4
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Meat expanded our brains. We'd be no smarter than cows if we didnt eat meat. Learn your facts.
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>>680010548
Official vegan thread
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>>680008920
Because I like eating animals, plain and simple.
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humans are fucking omnivores you stupid fuck, anatomical and physiological science shows that our anatomy has classic traits of an omnivorous diet. Stop denying facts you lettuce eating faggot.
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>>680008920
I enjoy hunting, killing and cooking animals.
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>>680010805
Is this a smart vegan roasting an idiot vegan? Moar!
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>>680010671
"But hey, this one vegan here goes to the gym daily, and this one Olympian over here is a vegan too! Thus all vegans must be fit!"
I eat meat, I do 100 sit ups, 100 push ups, 100 squats, and a 10 km run every single day; don't see me punching cars out of traffic though, do you?
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>>680009693
except 40% of Americans are vitamin B12 deficient yet they're not vegan? smh
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>>680008920
because it's fun pissing off vegans and vegetarians
and the "plant alternatives" taste like the worst parody of something normal to eat
+ it's not tasty if you have to "learn to love them over time"
stupid fag
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>>680011168
>don't see me punching cars out of traffic though
kek
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>>680008920
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>>680011176
source?

Protip: by source i mean peer reviewed scientific journal
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>>680011168
Every day right? You're supposed to stop using air conditioners and heaters too.
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>>680008920
because some one need to help get rid of all the meat
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>>680008920
>only herbivores can develor atherosclerosis

stopped reading right there
either you are a stupid kid talking out of your ass or you are seriously retarded
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>>680010917
without chocolate ???
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I like knowing that things are dying for me and i like making faggots like you triggered
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>>680010917
Oh of course I have a vegan alternative; you can fuck off.
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>>680008920
Human evolution could only happen at all because we had meat to eat,
herbivores need to spend all day eating to survive,
as carnivores we could survive on one portion of meat a lot longer, Days even, this gave us time, time to develop tools, culture, time we spent cultivating, raising animals, growing plants,
only now that we have such advanced food production and such a huge surplus of food can we even allow ourselves to be vegitarian.
Veganism is only possible in this modern time because we consumed meat. so you do your thing and shove your opinion up your ass.
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>>680008920

If we are not omnivores how come humans can eat meat, actually process it, and naturally humans are healthier and more functional on a ketogenic diet
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>>680008920
Vegetarians I can get along with. Most of the time, they choose not to eat meat for dietary/health reasons and while they may try and convince you it's healthier, the majority of the time they'll just get along fine with those who choose to eat meat.
Vegans piss me off. Most of them chose it for political/ideological reasons, then wave their moral superiority around and beat people over the head with the fact that they're vegan.

Scientific Fact: Humans are omnivores. We are biologically designed to extract nutrients from both plant and animal sources.
Scientific Fact: Humans cannot break down cellulose, the material that makes up the ridged cell walls of plants. This means we are very inefficient at processing plant materials and extracting all the nutrients.

Veganism isn't about health, it's about 'not killing/using animals'. Sorry, but that's exactly what humans are designed to do. To extract nutrients from as many sources as possible in order to be able to survive nearly anywhere. It's one of the reasons we've dominated the planet and could be found in any climate long before any significant technology was developed.
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>>680011176
So let's just make the problem worse then!!!
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>>680011357
Yes every day, and I don't even have an AC, and the heater hasn't been on since my girlfriends hamster thought it was time to hibernate two winters ago.
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>>680008920
Because we're planning on herding vegans and eating them when the time comes.
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>>680008920
I don't understand. Eating meat is natural, rape is natural. I don't want to learn to love, I know what I love.
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>>680008920
Imagine I start plauing an instrument, let's say, the guitar. So I play it every day and feel really good about it, because it's fun and I enjoy it. Now imagine I purposefully go out of my way to tell everyone that I play guitar and they most definitely should do it too, because people are naturally a musically predisposed being. That would be fucking stupid, wouldn't it?
>Wouldn't it, Anon?
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>>680011810
Pic Related.
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>>680009842
We can make a frozen parody out of your post that is pro meat.
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>>680011604
I would like actual proof for that.
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>>680008920
I like eating meat and find your shitty alternatives to be shitty. I mean, I really really like eating meat...will be roasting a whole baby lamb in 2 weeks for greek/orthodox easter. I also do a couple young hogs for parties over the summer. thinking maybe i'll do a goat this summer as well. Its actually amazing how much I love (and everyone else that i invite to these parties seems to love) roasting whole animals. That, to me, is proof that we evolved to eat meat.
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Because it's my choice, I respect others choices to be vegan and understand their reasons for it so long as they respect mine. The vitamin b12 is a great reason not to be vegan, for example. Also if you're vegan and against honey, fuck you
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>>680011176
funny how even more vegans are b12 deficient then non-vegans
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>>680011645
Oh, so that's why we shit corn.
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>>680012022
Damn that looks good
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>>680008920
i like to eat healthy but youre arguing against nature. nature is truth
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>>680011176
http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/v64/n9/full/ejcn2010142a.html
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>>680011168
That's because you don't have a balanced exercise routine and you're doing numbers for endurance, not strength or hypertrophy. Kill the sit ups, add horizontal rows, pull ups, and dips. Go for 3x5-10 reps of the hardest difficulty of each exercise (e.g. raise your feet for paps to make them harder).
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>>680012245
Thanks brah. I assure you it was delicious.

Check out my satanic pig that casts the shadow of a man
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>>680008920
I guarantee those brownies taste like shit.
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>>680012022
Nice argument!

Personally I think that sounds more sick than cool.
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>>680008920
>> "eating meat is natural"
>rape is also natural, male ducks gangbang female ducks
That's not a counterargument.
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I am not vegan because all life exists at the expense of something else. This fact is non-negotiable. The life that continues to exist is the life that deserves to exist. Homo Sapiens Sapiens is a species which has attained mastery of its surroundings enough that we've been able to forsee species-wide challenges that lay in our collective futures billions and even trillions of years from now. I believe that in order to maximize our chances of surviving the coming selective pressure, we need to diversify as much as possible; we need to find as many different ways of existing as there are. This approach can be summarized with a quote from Aleister Crowley "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law." I believe in using anything and everything possible in order to achieve the highest greatness possible, for myself and for my species. I will not compromise, as nothing is truly "moral."
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>>680009959
ok keep putting meat in your mouth then. you probably eat dicks without knowin.
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>>680009168
Meat have sodium nitrote as food additive, this in the body its transformed to nitrosamines. All nitrosamines are carcinogenic.
>Enjoy your stomach cancer after 30 years of eating shit
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>>680012078
Seriously though, fuck anyone who is anti honey.
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>>680013068
To address OP's counterpoints:

We are in fact omnivores, and we have been for a very long time. Even if atherosclerosis could only be developed by herbivores, we still consume an herbivorous diet, we just also consume a carnivorous one too. The relevant facts of atherosclerosis are that it is more generally known as cardiovascular disease, and that one of the risk factors in developing it is eating foods which are high in LDL cholesterols, such as meat.

Eating meat is natural. Rape is also natural, in the same way that eating meat is natural. In the sense that "natural" has no real meaning. Eating meat is not equivalent to rape.

The fact that lions cannot survive on plants, but we can, only means that we have an extra possibility for dealing with potential selective pressures than lions do. Independent of all other considerations, this means we are better at living than lions are. If we decide not to eat meat, then we are essentially equivalent in this consideration, as we both would have 1 possible way of surviving.

>you'll learn to love them over time.
It is not your job to decide what other people's experiences are or will be. Nothing needs to be "justified;" we can do it, what risk or danger are we avoiding that is worth what we give up?
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>>680013012
it is to an SJW faggot
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>>680008920
go fuck yourself. Yes took the b8, go fuck yourself once more
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>>680008920
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>>680013094
Huh, I didn't know that. Could you post a link to the study so I can read more about it?
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>>680013072
Heck, you can specifically order dicks to eat if you want.
http://www.odditycentral.com/travel/guolizhuang-beijing-famous-penis-restaurant.html
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>>680008920
you should probably just kill yourself. like right now
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http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/we-are-not-herbivores.html

>there's lots of plant alternatives and you'll learn to love

No need to learn to love anything when I already love meat.
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>>680010547
we are herbivores. can your teeth rip through a live animals skin and bones? no it has to be cooked and you dont even have the balls or ability to kill animals every single day for your food. the president of the american college of cardiology dr kim williams says we are herbivores and eating animals is the only cause of clogged arteries. this doesn't happen to omnivores.
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Fun fact:

Vegans are extremely bad for the environment. They do much more damage than people who eat beef regularly.

Veganism is morally wrong.

>b-but muh animals
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>>680008920
but i am vegan
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>>680013072
I'm okay with that. Ever try Rocky mountain oysters? Fucking delicious m8
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>>680013126
One final note:

Given my worldview, I consider the fact that you are vegan to be beneficial to me, and those that will come after me. You exist in a state of possibility that I do not exist in. That means that I may be able to use your experience to defeat some challenge or trial that I may face in my lifetime. If I end up eating too much of the wrong foods, and I completely fuck my cardiovascular system, I know that it's possible for me to live as a vegan in order to cope, survive, and ultimately live longer than I would have been able to without your example.

tl;dr: I think your worldview is valuable, even though I don't share it.
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>>680013250
+1
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>>680013444
silly troll is silly.
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>>680008920
How about Vitamin B12
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>>680008920
I would understand vegetarian. But sometimes I just want some high quality meat.
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>>680009168
First post best post
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>>680013444
WITNESSED, also sadly true.
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>>680013518
It's true m8
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>>680008920
>you'll learn to love them over time
I'll eat whichever I like better. I prefer almond milk over regular milk now. But I'm not going to go eat vegan mozzarella (which is actually not bad) when real mozzarella is still better.

I don't care about animals I've never met, especially if they're not cute.
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>>680008920
It's not necessary to become vegan but processed and red meats should be avoided because they've been confirmed to cause cancer.
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>>680013444
>trips confirm
pic related. if meat is illegal then you're just going to waste killing a cow
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>that's not an excuse that justifies animals being killed for you
They're going to be killed anyway.
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>>680008920
Butter ftw

Cant live life without butter

or bacon
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>>680013094
>stomach Cancer
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>>680008920
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>>680008920

your right, vegan is much better!
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>>680008920
Because if you're so worried about what I eat maybe you should reevaluate your priorities nigga
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>>680008920
Pussy.
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>>680009693
>>680009693
1 abstract does not mean nothing, you need several studies for that hypothesis.
You are so dumb cunt for think the opposite.
>inb4 mommy i dont know what is H-RMN or HPLC
Stupid cunt
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>>680013012
Weed is safe because it's natural? Well so are bears! You wouldn't smoke a bear, would you?
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>>680013429
>can your teeth rip through a live animals skin and bones
skin yes, bones no....FYI not all meat eaters eat the bones too.

Question: if we were susposed to eat only fruits and veggies then why do we not have the same strong jaw muscles and crest on on skull where these muscles attached (as seen in gorillas)?
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>>680013712
>confirmed
You mean some asshole that got paid to do a half-added statistical study on a few thousand people told you that it was the truth?

Medical science based on statistical studies should be taken with a grain of salt.
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>>680008920
because i dont want to become anorexic as i am already 10lbs underweight.
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>>680008920
bet that butter-free brownie is as chewy as a brick and taste like one too
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>>680013791
saved
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>>680013873
Abstract? I can read the whole publication?

incase you b12 deficient brain missed this one i posted too, hopefull you can read the whole thing

http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/v64/n9/full/ejcn2010142a.html
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>>680013993
Someone give this (wo?)man a steak!
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>>680008920
I don't like gluten free bread. No matter how hard you try you cant match the elasticity of gluten so it always turns out like pound cake.
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>>680013873
Yeah screw real science! Just because there's proof doesn't mean a thing!
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Who can afford to eat like a vegan but the super rich?
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>>680010805
Underrated post. Let the battle of vegans commence!
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>>680013844
Seems pretty small. You got tiny hands or something?
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Because I just can't find a good cock that's made out of vegetables...
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>>680008920
>believes we aren't developed to eat meat

Get a load of this joker
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Because there is literally no science to justify us being herbivores that isn't bunk as fuck.

Because plants have just as much of a right to live as animals.

Because eating a herbivorous diet is expensive, not healthy (without work), and not something I want to do.
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Because I'm not a pussy ass bitch that is scared to murder an animal
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>>680013929
gorillas are herbovires dumbass. everything about us points to herbivore.

hee learn something

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmXynDLkbXY
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>>680014119
please do
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>>680013873
In scientific articles abstract simply means it's a short overview of the study to get to the point better.
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>>680008920
Why do you care about what other people eat?

>A: You're a fag
>B: You're retarded
>C: You're a retarded fagot
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>>680014216
I kek'd
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>>680014156
oh yea rice potatos bananas and beans are so expensive right? fuck off with your horseshit you pig fucker
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>>680008920
One time I ate out a vegan chick.
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>>680014216
You see my hands? they are not small.
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>>680014327
I'd go with
>D: all of the above
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>>680008920
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Did she cum tofu
>>680014379
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>>680014379
How did she taste/smell?
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>>680014394
Rubio's are bigger.
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>>680014273
i know that are faggot, thats why i was asking why do we NOT have a large jaw muscles and a crest on on skull to attach those muscles? Gorillas, who are HERBIVORES, has these features to help eat their tough food. Why do we NOT have this if we were supposed to be eating veggies and fruits?
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>>680014455
she came gluten-free kale juice. it was disgusting.
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>>680014543
*supposed to be eating only veggies and fruits
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>>680014273
Gorillas are also known to eat small animals as well you fuckin retard
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>>680008920
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>>680008920
The animals I eat wouldn't have lived without me. If we all went vegan tens of millions of animals will never excist.
>you vegan bastards are anti-animal
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>>680008920
You do realize that Plants have feeling and auras, right? Plants are the most natural and defensless beings on the planet. You fuckers think just because they don't have eye-brows you can eat them?

Get fucked. I'll eat what I want, when I want, you dirty fucking hippie.
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>>680013712
Did you know that ingesting plants also causes cancer for the same reason eating processed and red meats does? In fact, all life generates particles in their cells which are known as "free radicals." These particles are essentially single-or multi-atom chains of broken molecules that have far too few electrons. They aggressively rip electrons proportional to how much they need electrons, and can easily fuck up key structures within a cell, sometimes resulting in the cell becoming cancerous. Fortunately, most forms of life have developed to deal with free radicals, so the risk is actually very, very low. In general, plants have the least free radicals, then herbivores have more, and carnivores have even more. Of course this is a generalization, and there are tons of exceptions everywhere. The reason white meat tends to have less free radicals, even though some white meat includes carnivorous species, is because creatures with white meat often fly or swim. The mechanics necessary to live through flying or swimming are such that these bodies generate enormous amounts of heat, and therefore break down much faster, creating many, many more free radicals than in their land-based counterparts. These species too, have developed ways of dealing with the increased free radicals, and their method happens to be so much more effective than our method that on average, they have less free radicals in their body at any given time than we do.

tl;dr: fuck you read the whole thing if you care.
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>>680014349
Literally if you only eat those you'll die.
Moron.
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>>680014256
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmXynDLkbXY

all evidense points to us being herbivores. even the president of the american college of cardiology says so after seeing countless people with animal cholestrol in their arteries.

plants are not sentient beings, they have no nervous systems or brains so its not comparable at all. very retarded point to make. plus way more plants get fed to animals that people eat, enough grain to feed all the startving people in the world multiple times over.

its way cheaper to eat vegan, rice beans lentils potatos bananas way cheaper than meat. its undeniably healthier, its the only way to avoid alot of major killers like diabetes heart attacks strokes and cancer. learn from dr neal barnard dr john mcdougall dr colin T campbell or dr caldwell esselstyn.

all your points are wrong except for "not something I want to do" which just makes you an ignorant fuckface
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>>680013275
anon must've meant sodium nitrite. the shit is basically a poison. not found in pure meat tho, mostly in cans, sausages etc
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>>680014455
She did! But that was mostly finger-work.

>>680014508
Nice. Clean. Less pungent than average.
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>>680008920
Animals don't care if we eat them


I take the time to make sure that I like the practices of companies I get meat (and most other products) from

We are naturally omnivores. We have teeth that are indicative of this as well proof of very primitive humans having meat based diets.
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>>680008920
I wish I could bludgeon you to death with a massive piece of meat.
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>>680013429
>eating animals is the only cause of clogged arteries
Dr. Kim Williams is a fucking hack.
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>>680014744
nope. you can be decently healthy on literally just potatos. do you even research? we are fueled by carbs not saturated fat cholestrol muscle and blood. moron.
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>>680014744
plus they were just examples I didnt say only eat those shitbrains.
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Anyone who is considering going veg, vegan, raw, fruititarian, or really anyone that gives a shit about what their putting in their bodies should watch Cooked on Netflix. It will answer all your misgivings about meat.
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>>680014273
>everything about us points to herbivore
why are we lacking enzymes that are specific to herbivores or the symbiotic relationship with organisms that do degrade like cows and their gut bacteria? We can not digest cellulose, inulin, pectin, etc. These complex carbs would be a great source of energy for us if we used them like HERBIVORES do.
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>>680013958
They've been confirmed to be carcinogenic by WHO.
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>>680009693
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10552882
did you even read your own link? it's a 1999 research on a specific brand of B12 pills, it didn't check the bio-absorption efficacy in humans, and it did confirm 17% genuine B12 out of the total B12 analogues. I have no idea what you wanted to say with citing this study, fatfuck.
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>>680015029
Lol rekt
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>>680008920
Those look way too sugary
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Why am I not vegan? Well because Mexican carne Asada tacos that's why. No mushroom bullshit.
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>>680014877
going against the government dietary reccomendations and sticking up for whats right like a boss? yeah what a hack. nope.
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>>680015029
no you have no idea what the point of me posting that article was faggot

see here since you dont have enough b12 to make these connections>>680009693
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>>680014776
>learn from dr neal barnard dr john mcdougall dr colin T campbell or dr caldwell esselstyn.
literally who

>all your points are wrong except for "not something I want to do" which just makes you an ignorant fuckface
nice retort faggot. I wouldn't rape you because it's not something I want to do. Guess I'm an ignorant fucktard now.
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>>680014942
"Not fueled by blood"
So you gonna donate all yours? You should.
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>>680013873
>evidence is a cis white male invention that allows them to always be right
>evidence doesn't mean shit in the real world

Fuck off back to tumblr while I tear into a juicy dead animal whose only purpose is to provide me with sustenance, you sackless pussy.
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>>680015002
we run on glucose, it fuels every cell in our body. without carbs we die.
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>pic of disgusting fucking brownies.
>telling me to go vegan.
>shitty plant alternatives.
kill yourself faggot.
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>>680009168
stay strong /b/rother
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>>680014741
Oh wait, tl;dr: eating causes cancer for the same reason existing causes cancer.
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>>680008920
if bit by a snake would you use anti venom?

if yes you arent a true vegan and should hang yourself
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>>680013275
http://pubs.acs.org/journal/jmcmar#/action/doMobileSearch?&startPage=0&searchText=nitrosamines%20food

Use sci-hub for unlock the papers
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Whos up for some bacon?
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>>680008920
shut the fuck up
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>>680015246
>literally who

established doctors with decaded of reserch on nutrition, preventing and reversing disease.

huh? compaing filling your body with aweful shit, and killing animals and the environment, with not wanting to rape a man. i dont understand your point.
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>>680015029
the point of the artcile is that not all of the suppliments are bioactive, so people are taking it thinking it will help them but in realty its not being absorbed. A common argument against needing b12 is suppliments, that article shows that they still are not getting enough from suppliments.

here is another peer reviewed publication for you on b12 concentrations of vegan, vegetarians and meat eaters.

http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/v64/n9/full/ejcn2010142a.html
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>>680015253
blood from other beings shit for brains.
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>>680014741
I read it. Thanks for posting that. It was informative.
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>>680015162
jesus you're a moron. the article DOES NOT CONFIRM YOUR OPINION. In fact, it does the opposite - supplemental B12 of algea source is indeed genuine.
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>>680014942
But fat and portions keep us full longer. Which is why people who use the "primates have k-9 teeth too" are full of shit because the spend 12 hours a day chewing their fruit. I don't have 12 free hours a week sometimes. Its just illogical with all of our modern pressures.
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>>680008920
Have a bacon butty, you're not you when you're vegan
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>>680008920
Because i'm not a sperglord.
You oxygen thief
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>>680015529
the article says nothing about absorption, you tard, the authors didn't check it even.

oh, and its Supplements not Suppliments.
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>>680015453
I am
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>>680010944
Dude I suck dicks and I'm not a fucking idiot vegan.

Vegetarian is a dietry choice vegan is saying that you won't drink milk becuase maybe that cow wasn't treated really well even though it likely was.
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>>680008920
Plants have feelings too, OP. You're such a dick for eating only plants. Spread the pain man

http://www.pri.org/stories/2014-01-09/new-research-plant-intelligence-may-forever-change-how-you-think-about-plants
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>>680015619
mmm seems like a waste if we just bury or cremate them
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>>680015279
cellulose, pectin, inulin are all carbohydrate polymers, we can use various simple carbs like glucose and fructose for glycolysis

Again I ask why wouldnt we have these enzymes to degrade these complex carbs like inulin? OR a symbiotic relationship with bacteria in our guts to degrade these complex carbs? Herbivores can degrade these complex carbs to use the simple carbs for glycolysis. Why cant we? Is it because we are NOT herbivores? hmmmmm
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Oh perfect, now there's SJW even for what you eat? Fuck off.
And I'm vegetarian
Why should I give a shit about what people eat?
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>>680015529
The Nature paper found that there is indeed a lower level of B12 in vegans WHO DO NOT TAKE SUPPLEMENTAL B12, and only after several years on the diet.
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>>680008920
because i simply dont care? i have no problem with eating vegan food for a month but i also have no problem with animals being killed for me. so i just eat both. why bother?
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I havnt gone vegan yet because OP is a faggot
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>>680008920
If it's already on the shelf at the grocery store I might as well buy it. You faggy liberals will never change anything because all you to is whine and act better than everyone at the same time. Keep your shit tier lifestyle choices to yourself.
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>>680015800
YEAH /B/ROTHER WE NEED TO UNITE AGAINST THESE FUCKING MURDERERS CALLED VEGANS

STOP THE UNETHICAL SLAUGHTER OF PLANTS FOR FOOD! HUMAN BEINGS WERENT MEANT TO EAT ONLY PLANTS! WE WERE REALLY MEANT TO ONLY DRINK WATER AND EAT OUR OWN CUM FOR PROTEIN!
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>>680015574
Always glad to contribute something of value :)
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>>680009693
You can eat your own semen, you faggot
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>>680015569
No one fucking eats or drinks blood unless they're a fuckin nutter like you.
That "blood" in a steak, isn't blood dumbshit. It would make the steak taste terrible if blood were left in.
That juice you see is just that, meat juice. Basically it's majority water. Dumb shit.
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If plants don't care about being eaten then why do some have toxins which are dangerous for us? They started producing them because they were being consumed by other animals so they evolved. Also plants have been shown to send out signals to other plants when they are being cut, consumed, torn from the ground, or burned. So plant lives matter we should on live on water and the energy of the sun.
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>>680015605
Nope, if 17% of the Vit b12 is actually bioactive, then vegans are still not taking enough and still are deficient. I agree it confirms it has some but not nearly enough, keep in mind this is concentrated forms of it and thus they need 10x dosage they are currently taking or the manufacturer need to make there supplements 10x more concentrated or perfeorm extractions on 10x the amount of material they already are for a normal DAILY dose.

Apparently you dont chemistry or biochemistry much do you?
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>femanon here
Men disgust me.

I’m a lesbian and am sick to death of you ignorant bastards. For starters, no, I will not show you my tits. I don’t see how any of you have the right to tell another woman to get naked, you dogs might see women as flesh for your pleasure but NOTHING gives you the right to take advantage of a woman just because you believe that you’re ‘stronger’ or ‘better’. You describe women as ‘cumdumpsters’, quite frankly I’m enraged by this, if I ever heard you say this word in real life I would punch you so hard you’d be in a comma for the next month.

What gives you the right to think that you can tell us what to do? I will never be ordered around by a man. Actually I’m so passionate about this I managed to get this ******* guy suspended from my work for making sexist comments about me and ordering me to get him a ****ing coffee every minute. Now he’s learnt his lesson and is making ME the coffee.

I weep for a world without men, a paradise. Without men there would be no crime, no wars and everyone would be treated equally.

Unfortunately I can’t see my utopia happening anytime soon but I warn you, women’s rights groups are still fighting for equality and in the future society might not be quite so lenient on you misogynist bastards.


>TL;DR you misogynist bastards will have your privileges taken down soon
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>>680016160
ACTUALLY, ONIONS MAKE HUMAN BEINGS CRY SO THAT WE WONT EAT THEM. ITS THEIR DEFENSE AGAINST BEING MURDERED


FUCKING VEGANS! MURDERERSSSS
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>>680015909
it also say that they were less than people who did
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>>680015618
I regularly eat 1000 calories meals that have almost no fat. you're an idiot.
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>>680016294
Old as fuck bait.
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ITT: all the pastas we can find
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because i am a human not a cow
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>>680016054
It's pretty damn good fam
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>>680008920
easy, its more convenient for me to get the nutrients i want and still have a varied diet when eating meat and veggis, if you can give me a list off different veggis that has the same nutrients as meat for the same mass then I will turn vegan in an instant ;)
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>>680015899
I dont care about your bullshit. we run on carbs. carnivores run in flesh and it doesn't clog their system. high carb plant based low fat diets are proven the best for health. simple as that.
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>>680015909
Learn to read

"Furthermore, even though vegetarian and vegan men who reported taking a vitamin B12 supplement had a higher intake of vitamin B12, serum concentrations of vitamin B12 were not affected. It is possible that supplement use was not accurately reported, some of the vitamin B12 supplements taken contained a type of inactive plant- based vitamin B12 "
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>>680008920
Might be a little late, but circular logic is absurd. You have not made a claim to why eating meat is bad.

1) The first fact is that herbivores do not have to be fed cholesterol-rich foods for them to develop atherosclerosis. Merely feeding them the wrong, usually starch- and sugar-rich, plant foods can cause cardiovascular disease. Carnivores not only can develop atherosclerosis, they do; if they are fed carbohydrate-rich plant foods. A normal level of meat in your diet will not increase levels of blood cholesterol to over 150, thus does not increase the risk of heart disease or atherosclerosis.

2) I don't care if it's natural or not. I like it eating it. Will elaborate later.

3) See point 2.

4) I don't care if there is plant alternative's. Fuck them, and fuck you OP. If animals want to kill me, in order to eat me, fuckin let em.

Also your brownies look like shit.
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>>680016287
Christ, Einstein was correct: human stupidity is infinite.
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You know what, normally I'd come up with a long winded excuse as to why I eat meat because vegans annoy the piss out of me but I think I'll just say what everyone here is probably too pussy yo say themselves. We eat meat because it tastes fucking amazing. I mean seriously have you HAD a good steak? You don't even need fucking communist steak sauce if it's a good quality steak. And the second reason is because even though there might be tasty vegan alternatives we're too lazy to change. Because we know what we like and don't want to change. So sorry if you don't like us killing animals. We honestly don't give a shit.
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>>680008920
Because were straight
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>>680016476
You seem very offended that there is proof of the existence of God. Please, take the time to read this with an open mind, as I did read your article. I do understand evolution and have spent many many hours researching to validate its claims on the way life was created. Unfortunately, all I was able to accomplish was a greater argument for Creation. Probably the most convincing argument is the proof that evolution is un-scientific because it does not meet the standard of science. Evolution is not testable, repeatable or observable. Darwin wrote 2 chapters of his doubts in chapter 6 and 9 in his book. However, to answer your jaw bone article. The devil did not invent carbon dating, but your lack of knowledge just proves the lack of research you have done. It is known as radiometric dating used in this process because carbon-14 is non existent after thousands of years. The devil uses radiometric dating to dispel the existence of God through his lie of evolution. If you research only biased articles you will never challenge your argument and continue prove my argument as fact. That you are unwilling to change your belief system because then you would have to be accountable to the Creator. Most secular scientists do not even believe in evolution anymore. The more research they he theory should be thrown away entirely. Again this is information that is out there. But your un-researched opinion on a topic that is completely foolish to believe in, which supposedly explains your existence, further shows your willing ignorance to reality. I sincerely hope you do not take this response as an attack in any way. I am willing to explain or assist you, in further understanding that your religion of evolution will land you in eternal punishment forever.
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>>680016628
our bodies produce all the cholestrol we need. dont be a dumb cunt.
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A lot of vegans say we aren't omnivores because we have herbivore teeth and not carnivorous teeth. Explain gorillas please.
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>>680013012
It's called a false equilivent
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>>680012022
>not a pig
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>>680016623
guess what? i read only the title and guessed what it was all about. I was 75% correct. Also countless other papers confirm its effectiveness. 1-0 to me b0ss.
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>>680008920
Wrong.
So?
So?
You're a fucking retard.
Nice baits fam
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Hey Faggots,
My name is John, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass pictures. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any pussy? I mean, I guess it’s fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to pictures on facebook.
Don’t be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I’m pretty much perfect. I was captain of the football team, and starter on my basketball team. What sports do you play, other than “jack off to naked drawn Japanese people”? I also get straight A’s, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just blew me; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.
Pic Related: It’s me and my bitch
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>>680016611
>I dont care about your bullshit.
>carnivores run in flesh

typical dumbass response

GLYCOLYSIS is important for ALL living creatures, it creates ATP, the energy currency molecule for biologics. Herbivore, carnivores and omnivores all need carbs. What do you think your liver is made of? How about the backbone of DNA?

learn to biochemistry
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>>680012708
Anon, I...
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>>680008920
Is you saying rape is also natural supposed help make your point? Because the way I see it you're just justifying rape. Legalize rape!
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>>680016476
Hey Faggots,

My name is John, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass pictures. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any pussy? I mean, I guess it’s fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to pictures on facebook.
Don’t be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I’m pretty much perfect. I was captain of the football team, and starter on my basketball team. What sports do you play, other than “jack off to naked drawn Japanese people”? I also get straight A’s, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just blew me; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.

Pic Related: It’s me and my bitch
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>>680008920
I'm already a vegetarian, I only eat meat from animals that eat vegetables
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Life snuffs out other life to survive. If you're not an autotroph, you might as well just murder and devour your victims and burn everything else, you shitty organism.

Even autotrophs kill other organisms btw, even if it's not direct consumption, because of resource competition and adaptations that enable the organism to make the environment inhospitable to other organisms. Vegans are pseudointellectual, sanctimonious assholes. Why the fuck should I care if my food feels pain? Just by existing in society and being alive you kill billions of organisms. Your very existance spells genocide for some forms of life and you worry about cows feeling pain when the only reason those types of cows are even still around (or exist in the first place) is because humans find them useful. Domestic cows have been selectively bred to their current state. They would completely die off if we didn't continue to raise them for meat, milk, and leather.
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>>680017076
I kekd so hard
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Hey Faggots,
My name is John, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass pictures. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any pussy? I mean, I guess it’s fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to pictures on facebook.
Don’t be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I’m pretty much perfect. I was captain of the football team, and starter on my basketball team. What sports do you play, other than “jack off to naked drawn Japanese people”? I also get straight A’s, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just blew me; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.
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>>680016867
Kek, yea correct that vegans are lacking b12 and wrong that suppliments increase their b12

understanding this must be hard with out enough b12, i understand

>2-0 me b0SS

Post those papers

Protip: only peer reviewed scientific papers are accepted
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Hey Faggots
My name is John, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass pictures. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any pussy? I mean, I guess it’s fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to pictures on facebook.
Don’t be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I’m pretty much perfect. I was captain of the football team, and starter on my basketball team. What sports do you play, other than “jack off to naked drawn Japanese people”? I also get straight A’s, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just blew me; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.
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>>680008920
We didn't fight our way to top of the food chain for nothing
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>>680017240
Fuck you reposter.
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>>680017393
>>680017240
are you winning now, son?
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>>680008920
Being vegan is so healthy that you have to take all these supplements, when you switch, to make up for all the nutrition that you are missing out on from not eating meat
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>>680016685

face it, vegans are the worst kind of faggot
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>>680008920
Because I really, really, really love me some dick
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>>680013094
Source or gtfo pls
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>>680017511
I'll keep trying, daddy
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>>680008920
Humans are scavenging specialized predators. We hunted our prey by being smarter and by having the highest long-distance stamina of any land animal.

We would scavenge berries, plants and small animals while on the move chasing larger prey. Before tools we would simply chase an animal until it passed out from exhaustion over a period of days or weeks, then beat it and eat it.

Humans eat meat. I don't because I don't particularly like the taste, but I don't go around rubbing it in everyone's faces and telling them about how good of a person I am. Not eating meat is the same as eating meat. The only arguing point is the one you didn't make: The commercial meat industry is unethical and destructive to the environment.
Good job on missing that one, your other points were awful, trite, and completely devoid of rationality.
1: I don't know where you got that "only herbivores can develop atherosclerosis" thing because scavengers and omnivores get that too. Obligate predators in captivity get it as well, my last cat died due to complications with atherosclerosis.

2: Comparing eating meat to rape.
Eating meat is in fact natural. Look at nature. Life eats life to continue living. To be alive you had to consume the life of not just a few but many organisms. Comparing it to ducks raping each other is at best strange, and at worst a blatant attempt to convince the reader by way of pathos.
3: Not sure what you were going for by this. Lions are indeed Obligate Carnivores. Humans aren't, but as I said we ARE omnivores and so eating animals is part of our normal diet unless we choose not to. Not really an argument either way though, its just a statement of fact.
4: I don't really like the taste of meat. Never have. I still don't go around proselytizing veganism out of a petty and shortsighted fear of death.

Finally: Brownies.

Some fatties might disagree with me but you cannot live on brownies alone.
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Hey Faggots,
My name is Patrick, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, no-dubs who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass pictures. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any trips? I mean, I guess it’s fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to pictures on facebook.
Don’t be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I’m pretty much perfect. I was captain of the football team, and starter on my basketball team. What sports do you play, other than “jack off to naked drawn Japanese people”? I also get straight dubs, and have banging hot girlfriends (They just blew me; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.
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>>680008920
The gains bro.
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Hey Faggots,
My name is John, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass pictures. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any pussy? I mean, I guess it’s fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to pictures on facebook.
Don’t be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I’m pretty much perfect. I was captain of the football team, and starter on my basketball team. What sports do you play, other than “jack off to naked drawn Japanese people”? I also get straight A’s, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just blew me; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.
Pic Related: It’s me and my bitch
>>
>>680017544
Worse than OP. Who is coincidentally a vegan...
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