>>679899724
Pride comes before a fall, my friend.

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>>679899724
Good job

l am ready for a fascist president, not even joking remotely

Nothing like being proud of your own ignorance.

>>679899945
nice strawman, did you make it yourself

>>679899724
I thought that retarded people weren't allowed to vote:

>If a court finds that a person is Page 10 STATE State Constitution/ Electoral Statutes: Persons Disqualified Guardianship/ Conservatorship Statutes Mental Health Statutes Developmental Disabilities/ Mental Retardation Statutes Anyone disqualified under the Constitution may not vote.

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cant wait until your amerifags get bombed

harldy matters in the primary
trump wont get enough delegates on the first vote at the convention and will be push aside by some one else in the second vote.
trump wont even make it to the general election but it will be fun to watch him throw a media shit show after the convention.

i wipe my ass with my bare hand and i am proud of it.

>>679900091
Bottom rung, huh? So pathetic you need a scapegoat? Good for you, son.

>>679900331
side note, you retards know that hes not even american right? he was born in Europe

whoa. is it November already?

>>679900467
Trump could run as an independent. Which would totally fuck him *and* the eventual Republican candidate. It really is going to be hilarious.

>>679899724
>i voted for trump and i am retarded.

fixed.

>>679900467
Hes going to win

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Eh, not gonna happen, faggots.

i consume twice my body weight in flies every day and i am proud of it.

>>679900681
That's what Im hoping for. The general would be a hundred time for entertaining, as we get to watch Trump scrabble to attack both sides only to be helping the Dems walk into the white house and possibly hold congress.

>>679900631
I didn't think he was born so much as raised up from Hell by daemons, having descended from beelzebub's cunt.

>>679900531
>>>/r/eddit

>>679900331
I remember a long time ago back when liberals were like "OMG Reagan is so stupid he's gonna start WW3 or nuke ourselves!!!" It's pretty much that way whenever anyone who isn't a democrat gets elected.

And when those liberals are proven wrong, they're just make up excuses like "Well he set the stage for WW3....well we're closer to WW3...."

>>679900852
Nah. he's not.

>>679900222
No, I found it somewhere

>>679900852
Keep thinking that, the delegate math isnt on his side right now and its been only getting worse these last two weeks.

Trump hasn't voted in 20 years.
His own kids are registered as Democrats

>>679899724
Better than Bernie.

>>679900222
Also nice trips

I'm literally going to vote for anyone who says these words:

"I'm going to repeal Obamacare"

They could be out of their fucking minds and think aliens ass rape them every night.

I don't care.

Repealing Obamacare is LITERALLY the only thing I care about.

It's the worst thing this country has ever done.

>>679900967
C'mon Dad, it's about time you went to bed. You're talking all crazy again. You know you get cranky when you don't get enough shut-eye.

>>679901096
Ive predicted the last couple presidents from years before the election i just got a feeling

>>679900967
i could care less since im not from america, but none the less are you really going to say he wont start a war, hes already starting a race war and he isnt president yet and when he has power, he has an army and weapons, smh its so obvious but retard americans are retarded

>>679901180
Whats bad about it

>>679901180
Why?

#ABH

>>679901268
Holy shit, you must be mad rich from all those predictions!

>>679901303
They're both fruits.

>>679899724
At least you got to vote. Can't say the same for those in Colorado and Wyoming.

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>>679901303
True

>>679901487
No im just saying im not gonna break the streak.

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>>679899945

>Voluntaryism

The minute I see any reference to this thin veil for Objectivist/Libertardian bullshit, I know to disregard the post.

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OP here, ALL OF YOU NIGGERS TOOK THE BAIT, AHAHAAHAHAHA, I DONT EVEN LIVE IN AMERICA YOU LITTLE SHITS

>>679901398
Because there is no free meal

>>679901744

"Hur dur I was only pretending to be retarded. Joke's on you!"

>>679901569
And?

>>679901654
Nah, that's Communism, dude. Different thing.

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>>679901744
>You think this has anything to do with you?

>>679901744
Its not like we dont like talking about it, thanks for bringing up this topic guy

Trump will get rid of the
>DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL

He has my vote

>>679901879
Well in this case.. yeah

>>679901952
They have fundamental similarities.

>>679901397
>>679901398

I'm 20 years old and I now have to come up with $1500 a year to pay for Obamacare even though I've never had more than a cold in my entire life.

It's a huge tax on being young and healthy.

And because of this, young people are now going to have an even harder fucking time getting their lives started. (buying a house, paying off student loan debt, saving for retirement)

Mark my fucking words, people are going to be working till they are fucking 80 because social security collapses and they couldn't even think about saving for retirement until they were 40

>>679902012
Of course, I am totally not just making up another bait for you to take 8)

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>>679901990
Marx treated both as the same thing, differences were introduced much later
Also it doesn't matter much if basic human freedom is violated

Hillary will win and America will be the most sensitive cuntry ever

>>679901268
wow bro your predictions are so on point ill have to give up all this statistical analysis.

>>679902256
Get a job. My Healthcare is free.

>>679902256
once you get cancer next year youll be happy you have insurance

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>>679902300
Chex'd

>>679902340
Dude, what Marx said is irrelevant in 2016. Fucker's dead. Social democracies across the globe do just fine, thanks.

And what basic human freedoms are you talking about? None of us can do whatever the fuck we want. Quite rightly. Society doesn't work that way. Socialism is just a different way of doing things that doesn't benefit the super rich.

>>679902256
But even better there is nothing you can do about it!
Either
- wait for the collapse
- help speed up the collapse
- expatriate, get another passport and repeal your US citizenship (as otherwise you will still be subject to many US laws no matter where you live)

>>679902818
Ok there are way better private services. There is no need for governmental bureucracy

>>679902921
Pretty sure that's not actual CNN, dude. They know how to spell "breaking".

>>679899724
Most idiots are. You're not alone.

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>>679899945

it's kind of funny how cultural differences between the UK and US work.

Over here we have minimum wage, everyone accepts it as perfectly normal. You guys think a minimum wage is anti-business.

The idea is that if a businessman can get away with it, then they'll cut every corner possible, its human nature. If a businessman can't afford to pay minimum wage, they're probably a shitty businessman.

Yet strangely you guys think tipping is perfectly normal and we don't.

>>679899724
why are you proud?
it doesn't really matter who you voted for

>>679903098
you had the choice of picking a private healthcare or the government option.
no one made you get the government option.

>>679899945
Yes, because that's clearly how the shit goes down. The employer really has no money other than that 7.25$, and the employee is just thrilled to work for THE HUGE SUM of 7.25$/h

I'm a strong libertarian, I wanted Rand Paul to win. I wouldn't vote for Sanders-the-imbecile in a million years. And even I realize that the minimum wage need to go up significantly.

>>679903098
>>679903092
>>679902715
>>679902256
>>679901180
I live in Britain and my healthcare is free.
If Breaking Bad was based in the UK, Walt would just have had the cancer treatment on the NHS for free, and everything would've been just fine.
Makes you think...

>>679902964
I've been living in socialism so we know how it works in practice. It just brakes because of a human factor. BTW How can you benefit from taxation of rich ppl when you pay higher taxes as well?

>>679902715
>>679902715
>My Healthcare is free.
How?

>>679902818
Fuck you
I rather just pay out of pocket
At most, a cancer diagnosis would cost me 35k max.
Not only that but it's rare as fuck for someone who doesn't smoke or drink
You think people just GET cancer all of a sudden?
Fuck no you retard.
It's old geezers getting prostate cancer
And drinkers getting liver cancer
Smokers getting lung cancer
Women get breast cancer for no reason but that's literally the only non-ultrafuckingrare cancer people get

>>679903616
>"strong libertarian"
>believes min wage should exist at all
Kill yourself.

>>679903616
libertarian
minimum wage

>>679903696
>Makes you think...

No it doesn't

Your country is shit and 1 not so great life is not worth the entire population paying a shit ton of taxes and never being financially stable

>>679903723
Everyone gets kick ass public services. Standard of living rises, so wages increase. Public transport is subsidised. Everything actually works. It's a great system. Everyone wins.

brother got cancer randomly when he was in kindergarten
didnt have much time to start smoking or drinking

>>679903571
You are right
But I'm pissed that it is obligatory in country where I live

>>679903696
Are you saying Britain would have ruined a great TV show?

>>679903888
>>679903945

Of course it should, you idiot. You have no understanding of what money is. If you don't have enough money, you die of hunger. And even libertarians should be against people dying.

I'm a libertarian, not a member of the Lord-Of-Flies cult.

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>>679900091
>fascist

>>679903773
universal health care
most of the civilized world has it and Obama care was the biggest step america could take with it since we are a bunch of conservative idiots.

>>679903616
Then you don't understand shit

>>679903773
>You think people just GET cancer all of a sudden? Fuck no you retard.

man i wish i was this simple minded, life would be so simple

>>679903773
>You think people just GET cancer all of a sudden?
>Fuck no you retard.
Wish my kid brothers cancer knew that

>>679903992
Haha, I knew you'd come back with a zinger like that. Bravo. My country isn't perfect, but we're doing ok. 5th biggest economy in the world, despite having a fraction of the US population.

And the thing with universal free healthcare is that it's way way cheaper to deliver than the complex US system. No insurance or obamacare or whatever. Everyone pays in, everyone gets something out. And even if you don't get sick, I guarantee that a friend or loved one will at some point. Shit happens, man. Knowing that it won't bankrupt you or your family is a massive weight off your mind.

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>>679899724
Do you hate hispanics anon? Do you hate people like me?

>>679904023
Yeah such as in Venezuela
Good bait

>>679904136
Yes. Which makes a change. It's usually the US that takes British TV shows and fucking ruins them.

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>>679899724
Guess what?

>>679904176
Another dumbfuck "libertarian" who confuses equal opportunities with equal outcomes

>>679904531
I'm mexican, and I voted for trump

>>679904295
Name ONE cancer other than the ones I mentioned that just FUCKING SHOWS UP ALL OF A SUDDEN and isn't ultrafucknigrare

Breast cancer is the only one that isn't crazy rare and is hard to prevent

>>679904176
When you work then you have money
When you don't minimum wage won't help ya

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Make anime dank again

>>679904257
Are you people retarded? Libertarians still need to obey the law. If you pay some guy 7.25$, then you're literally stealing his shit. You like the fact that he's hungry, and you see that as an advantage. His work is worth more than 7.25$, but you still pay him less because you can.

You have an illegal advantage, you idiot. Libertarian doesn't mean anarchist. We still shouldn't commit theft or blackmail. And slavery should still be illegal. Are you that retarded?

>>679904573
Scandinavia. I've been to Copenhagen. it's awesome. Taxes are high, but so is standard of living and general happiness and well being. And they brew some pretty awesome beer. You should visit. Getting around is easy, cos of their great public transport, and they all speak English! Fuck yeah, Denmark. (And other Scandinavian countries that are also awesome).

>>679903696
Would have died before receiving treatment also quality of care is shit compared to US you fucking cuck.

>>679904250
Civilized world doesn't have it
But we can't see into the future to see one

>>679904694
http://time.com/3650194/most-cancer-is-beyond-your-control-breakthrough-study-finds/
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/347/6217/78

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>>679904250
You're an idiot and pay no bills.
It's obvious from everything you type. Obango care was supposed to spread out healthcare costs, and reduce the price while increasing the care.
NEWS FLASH SHORT BUS
It's done the opposite. It's ruined healthcare, and if you paid bills or actually had to use that shit system, you'd know it.

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>>679899724
Is the guy in the background photographing his bald spot?

>>679903696
It's not free healthcare

>>679904477
Ultrarare case nigger

Probably rare bone cancer amirite?

>>679904494
>5th biggest
>thinks that's something to brag about
US economy is literally half the world's economy, man.

>Knowing that it won't bankrupt you or your family is a massive weight off your mind.
Or just not putting that extra salt and vinegar on your french fries and deep fried fish dicks could do that

I like Bernie Sanders

>>679904982
Really most develop countries don't have it?

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/06/heres-a-map-of-the-countries-that-provide-universal-health-care-americas-still-not-on-it/259153/

>>679904797
Yeah
How would you define how much something is worth when you interfere with the market?

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>>679904531
i am one and I hate it
wiling to make america great again at my expense

>>679904694
Oh wow. What a hugely crass thing to say. You're extraordinarily stupid. Cancer doesn't work like that. A lot of people may have had it developing for a while, but they don't have it diagnosed in time. And they die. Very often because they don't have healthcare and are scared of going to the doctor.

>>679904887
Yes, it's nice when the bus ticket is inexpensive and English courses are free.

Too bad they don't have any Nobel prizes, though. And they haven't invented anything in a long time. If you want the government to give you some money for research and equipment, too bad, the money has to go to hire free English tutors. If you're a genius in physics and biology, you have no luck. But if you're a bus driver, your life is as swell as it can be.

>>679905028
Healthcare is provided by my work and the up front costs when I visit my doctor have been the same for years. Dont know what youre talking about. Probably something you heard on fox news.

>>679904797
A lot of ANCAPs claim to be libertarian. Sad.
Too bad they dont know real libertarians are fiscally conservative and socially liberal. They think less government just means, I should literally be allowed to do whatever i want.
Freedom isnt free children... specially economic freedom.

>>679904965
>you fucking cuck
Have you ever had an original thought, or do you just use the same insults as all the other children?

I've had friends who've moved from the US to the UK to have their kids, because they had so little faith in the US healthcare system. So, y'know, there's THAT.

>>679904887
How about how small the country is relative to the US and how less diverse? Actually won't be less diverse for long as you're cucking your women to all the brown refugees. Nice try though 7/10.

>>679904797
> retarded
> literally

>>679904694
mus be b8 no ones this stupid, even on /b/

>>679905098
me too, /b/ro. me too. here's hopin'.

>>679905439
Just the real bills I actually have to pay, kid. Don't let my reality interrupt your lies.

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>>679903773
This post gave cancer.

>>679904887
And it works only because of natural deposits of minerals. Sweden was always rich country even in socialism

>>679905079
Rhabdomyosarcoma in the bladder wall
Rare but not ultrarare like you think

>>679905439
And because it's true for you it's true for everybody?

>>679905079
We call French Fries, "chips". Which you should do, really, considering you're speaking our language.

US economy is propped up by the Chinese. Good luck with that.

>>679905265
Again
What types of cancer do that?

extremely rare cases man. Also breast cancer. That's literally it. We're talking 1:100,000 for the shit you're describing (excluding breast cancer)(also ruling out drinkers, smokers, and old geezers getting prostate cancer)

>>679905240
It is defined by the demand... but what do we do when the demand for workers is abysmal, but resources from china are cheap.
You get SHIT. ALL OVER your middle class.

>>679899724
i bet you are

>>679899724
I would but my state isnt going to let us. One way or the other, all of the deligates will vote against Trump

>>679905240
Obviously, by supply and demand. AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING! The demand for a person's work clearly makes the price go higher than 7.25

The only reason the employers pay only 7.25 is because there is another factor, like the fact that the employee needs food and is in desperate need of money. This is called marginal utility, you idiot, look it up.

The market right now is NOT made by supply and demand. If somebody has a million dollars, they won't work for 7.25$/h Therefore, the employers right now rob the employees, literally ROB them of their marginal utility of the difference between a normal wage and a 7/25$/h wage

Learn to economics, faggot.

>>679905503
>>679905549
You people are imbeciles if you believe being libertarian is the same thing as being anarchist. If you think we should not make ANY laws, then it's not the same as only making useful laws.

>>679905684
what? your monthy morgage and electricity go up because obama care? what fucking bills are you talking about?
get a real job that offers healthcare and you wont have to worry about healthcare insurance bills

>>679905504
Oh man, you were doing so well, but then reverted to standard knuckle dragging racism. Ah well.

>>679905824
Just sharing my experience
if you have some stats please share so be can have a larger picture of whats happening.

>>679905886
Don't ask me
Hayek is a better tutor

Socialism works better the smaller the country is.

>>679906096
Haha
In economics, the marginal utility of a good or service is the gain from an increase, or loss from a decrease, in the consumption of that good or service

Are you a nigger my friend?

>>679905724
OHNUO IVE BEEN RUSED ABANDON BREADDDD XD

>>679905278
Alfred Nobel was literally Swedish.
And Denmark has won 12 nobel prizes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Danish_Nobel_laureates
So I'm guessing that the rest of that is also bullshit. I dunno, I don't know that much about Scandinavia.

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>>679905504
Good that Denmark, Norway and Sweden have pretty much closed the borders for immigrants and are kicking out illegals atm. Non of them will reach under 90% white in the next 20 years compared to the United Cucks of America with over 40% spics and nigs right now.

>>679905881
Then why do so many people die of cancer? Are they just devil may care types who decide against treatment? Or is it just that you're a retard?

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>>679906120
> don't worry how the government has fucked up healthcare, blame yourself for living in a shit job market.

This is how I know you are a child.

>>679906759
Look at sweden, republifuck.

>>679906958
Look at Venezuela an Russian communism fagot

>>679906958
>great economy
>very large medium class
>free school
>free healthcare
>one of the world's best countries
>over 90% white

Look at what? Don't tell me you fell for the /pol/ meme?

>>679905881
1 / 4 of deaths a year in developed countries are from cancer
doesnt sound so ultra rare to me

>>679907098
Guess what! There can be good socialism and bad socialism! Wow. Just like there can be good and bad capitalism. The systems are just that. Systems. When those systems are corrupt then they fail! Using a fucked up version of socialism to decry all socialism is a poor argument.

Jesus, I feel like I should be doing this with sock puppets.

"Communist China and the Soviet Union don't count. If you want to see TRUE socialism, look at a small country which has a mild form of socialism, and which also has a lot of wealth left from when it had a colonial empire."

Fucking socialists, cherry-picking data.

>>679907392
Quoted wrong meant for

>>679906826
child with a better job than you apparently
keep blaming it on that job market even though it isnt 2009 anymore, im sure its not because you have no qualifications.

>>679907482
Exactly
And he should write "look at a small country which has a mild form of socialism, and which also has a lot of wealth left from capitalism"

>>679906803
Smokers
Drinkers
Old ass people
Breast cancer

That's literally all the cancer you hear about.

Then you have the ultrarare cancers that some of the childrens get on TV asking for donations to St. Jude

Then you have the ultrafuckingrare cancers that happen randomly. Lung cancers with lymphatic growths that kill in <6months.
Bone cancers.
Super rare shit.


But seriously
Is it really worth it to tax an entire population just because a small population percentage get a super rare medical condition and you are scared you might get it too?
That's retarded.
Majority of our health care system is clogged up with obese assholes and retards with extremely easily preventable shit

>people arguing on 4chan thinking that their opinion will somehow affect the presidential race.
>not realizing that a solid 90% of users on /b/ are mentally retarded.

>>679907482
Bernie Saunders version of socialism is the mildest form imaginable. Like, maybe let's pay people a fair wage, and give people healthcare so they don't die. And you Yanks are all going spastic over it! Fucking hilarious. As if giving a flying fuck about your fellow man will cause your legs to drop off or something. Why do you all fucking hate each other so much?

The funniest thing was the retards accusing Obama of being a socialist. Haha! Dude would be right wing in most normal countries. Your political system crazy.

>>679907451
>are from cancer
>doesn't exclude lung cancer from smoking, liver cancer from drinking, prostate cancer from not jacking off enough from old geezers,

Exclude those and that 1 in 4 would be like 1 in 100

Then exclude breast cancer...

That shit would be like 1 in 10000

>>679908065
or you know its just people expressing their political opinions
why is it every time someone expresses a political opinion is has to be to affect the entire presidential race?

>>679908156
>And you Yanks are all going spastic over it! Fucking hilarious.

That's not what America is about.

That shit is unconstitutional and unamerican.

Obamacare should be ILLEGAL MIND YOU

ALSO REMINDER THAT INCOME TAX IS ILLEGAL!

>>679908156
For me right wing means no income tax
In my country even socialists introduced only 19% income tax
Obama clearly is then a socialist

>>679907752
Also

"In a fair system, the workers have a right to property over the means of production. The corporation should be owned by it's workers, not CEOs."

Yes, because if somebody comes to your shitty state and builds a factory and hires you, then the normal attitude you should have is "Thank you for building this factory and giving me a job. This factory is mine now."

And also, there are shareholders. If you want to be a part of the economy, start buying shares.

>>679908156
I agree that we should increase minimum wage and give women paid leave for when they have children. But that doesn't mean we should pay health insurance for morons who smoke pot, or give literal retards the change to go to college free of charge.

>>679908264
do you have sources for those stats or are you pulling them out your ass because you have no idea what youre talking about?

>>679907973
Firstly, your idea of what causes cancer is wildly simplistic. We still don't know what causes a lot of them. Perfectly healthy people get them, cos them's the breaks.

Secondly, cancer isn't the only disease. I mean, that's obvious, right? Something that is completely unrelated to your lifestyle could put you in a wheel chair. A car accident. A slip and fall. Being shot by someone. And wam bam, you're bankrupt. And can't work. Happens all the time.

But nooooo, you're immortal! Nothing's going to happen to you! Until it does, and you're fucked.

>>679905261
It's not gonna happen retard

>>679900222
Starwman? It's so cute when you think you know what you are talking about.

>>679899724
No one cares...

>>679908887
Yes it will

>>679909019
No its not. He's going to deport illegals

>>679908635
If you honestly think that 1 in 4 perfectly healthy people die from cancers other than prostate, breast, lung and liver, you are a paranoid fucktard.

A shit ton of that is 100 year olds getting cancer.

>>679908556
Well, let's just say that Obama isn't considered socialist by anyone who counts, yeah?

>>679908442
>Live free or die!

Please do the latter.

>>679909019
President doesn't have that much power, and we'll have a lot of economic fallout if that happens, expect your food prices to jump up a bit.

>>679900331
Kill yourself, europig. America is the best, europig. Die.

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>>679899724
Any Cruz supporters try to stop you?

>>679900717
Kill yourself, bernie cuck. Die.

>>679901008
Yeah, he will, faggot. Die.

>>679899724

/h/illary thanks you for your vote and so do I.

/h/ you see what I did there? That's our symbol. ;-)

>>679909536
Let's meet back here later. After he loses.

>>679909183
Then you don't fagot

>>679909152
okay obviously you arent here to talk with logic and use sourceable stats to back up your argument, but are rather here to name call people into submission. Keep believing what you want but dont be surprised when 50 and you get cancer somewhere you didnt expect.

>>679909311
>illegals who don't pay taxes and go to public schools, get welfare and use shelters
vs
>higher food prices from lack of workers
I'm willing to pay a little more for food.

>>679909603
Hillary is terrible though

>>679909704
Dude, if you can't even spell the insults right, then I dunno what to say to you.

Inb4 China

>>679908724
All those possibilities are extremely fucking rare too man.

It's probably a million to 1 shot of ALL of those possibilities happening to you in a lifetime.

I'm saying it's not worth forcing young people to buy in to Obamacare and not have money to save for retirement or pay loans and have to delay their life by 5 years all because some old ass people voted to force young people to buy in so they could pay less for insurance and also because some retards on 4chan are scared of slipping and falling and having a catastrophic fall where they break all their glass bones in their body as they fall from their 1000000 ft. porch step.

If you are so scared of that, buy your own damn health insurance and don't force me to buy it.

>>679909972
>>679908724

>It's probably a million to 1 shot of ALL of those possibilities happening to you in a lifetime.

Mean to say "ONE"

Don't know why I typed "all"

>>679909732
food prices will only go up for a few months to a year max. people just want you to think everything will be fucked if we get rid of illegals but the portion of shit that they used up would reallocate to those that need it so it wouldnt actually have that much of an impact except in places that make use of illegals massively like in LA and shit. most of the country wouldnt even notice anything

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>>679909969
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>>679909969
Chi-

FUCK

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>>679909732
illegal immigrates still pay the sale tax on all items purchased and if were to file income taxes would get 95% of it back since they are well below the poverty line.
Deporting them will cost a shit ton in the first place and youll never stop them from continuing to come through. And might actually cost more than the little they would pay as legal immigrants.
Also good luck with that insanely expensive wall.
Sounds like a shit ton of spending while bringing in no more tax revenue.

>>679909972
Ah, whatever man, enjoy your life of unparalleled health. Enjoy a joyless existence, avoiding anything remotely risky.

I'll enjoy my free healthcare and doing whatever the fuck I want.

>>679902921
Well yeah because most kids who's parents are voting for Bernie are CRAZY impoverished so they just want someone to give their parents more money so they can buy them a GameCube

>>679910469
If they're poor as fuck, then they don't contribute that much to sales tax

>>679910640
>I'll enjoy my free healthcare
>free

It's not free, fucktard

I don't avoid risky shit at all.

I live knowing that shit is extremely inprobable.
If anything, you were the one that sounded like aggressive inoperable bone cancer was around the corner for literally everyone.

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>>679907392
>white

Well well well lookie here. A racist BIGGOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No wonder you are a republifuck, republicuck. Tell me, who told you that white race was the best? Your mom? Dad? /b/? You're wrong. Sweden is one of the best countries and your retartad.

>>679899724
Seeing as the election isn't for a while, that's confusing.

>>679899724
Can someone explain American voting for me?

How do you vote for someone before the election?

>>679910469
there are ways to get mexico to pay for the wall like trump has indicated or by simply using humanitarian money we send to them since most ends up in corrupt people pockets and barely any actually is used for what its given. mexico would rather pay to build the wall than lose that money permanently since long run its better for them.
And if done correctly not the typical politician thats the norm now where you spend 10x what is actually needed it wont be super expensive. expensive as fuck yes but not the amount people think it would costs

>>679909732
Well in boring-ass Ohio, immigration isn't too big a deal for me, so I'd take the first option, but I'm obviously bias

>>679911420
Primaries, nigga

>>679900852
maga

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Get fucked, 4chan:
>>679901879
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>>679911280
>>679911745

>>679901101
no they're just not registered to vote repub

>>679904531

Nothing about deporting illegals and maintaining a secure border is discriminatory against Hispanics. If you believe that respected national borders and the Rule of Law is inherently inimical to your people, that is YOUR problem, not Trump's or his supporters'.

Trump has been perfectly candid about describing Mexico and her people as beautiful, and maintains only that the good people aren't the ones with the incentives to enter our country illegally and maintain our system of non-enforcement. You just choose not to pay attention to the nuance, and choose to identify personally with criminals and thugs instead of the fine people who truly honor your heritage.

current mexican president said mexico would never pay for an american wall

>>679911106
That kind of mania drives all these socialists

>>679911567
google it retard we arent your teachers

>>679911567
in the US we have 2 parties and the primary election (what we have now) is to pick the candidate that will be the actual candidate for presidency come the real election. This is how we narrow it down to 2 people most support and who will be going against each other come the presidential election.
the system though is designed to where popular vote can be beaten by delegates so the most popular candidate wont necessarily be the winning one at the end of the primaries. If a person doesn't get the needed delegates then the convention where the candidate who won would of celebrated instead becomes a battleground where the party leaders can pick any person they want basically because there are people who vote for who they want instead of the actual results from the elections. Tha'ts what is most likely going to happen with the republicans. Trump is the most popular having way more actual votes than cruz but he will be beaten by a system that is rigged/corrupt.

that is a very very basic overview of the voting system

>>679912156

You mean he doesn't want to contribute to securing the border, and cutting off the cashflow feeding the cartels that are terrorizing his people?

What an asshole. They should vote him out of office ASAP.

>>679911567
Gladly

In America, we pretty much have a two party system; Republicunts and Smellocrats.

In a parliamentary system like literally everywhere else in the world, parties pick people they like then citizens vote for MP's and if the party gets the most seats, their guy wins the seat.

But in America, anyone can run. Literally. Anyone. (as long as you were born here, and are at least 35 years old). Vermin Supreme is a prime example of this. People announce that they are running and declare which party they are voting for. All this leads to quite a few candidates, so we have to whittle it down a little.
Republicans had something like 15 serious candidates, and all of those candidates would split the vote and assure the democrats a victory.
To avoid this, we have what are essentially play offs called primary elections. The candidates compete for votes state by state to win delegates and (supposedly) the candidate in each party with the most delegates will have the support of the party itself.
Then in November, the general election is when you pick between the party's choices for candidates and the winner becomes president.

>>679905098
>>679905636
fuck outta here commie rats

>>679911586
I live in Texas, where I've seen the town my family came from practically bled dry by the illegals who take all the tax money that could be used on Americans.

>>679912537
That's like 90% of Mexican Government

>>679913325
How did they take it?

>>679913613
They go to public schools, use section 8 housing, sometimes rely on the food bank, claim welfare, and use other tax funded programs.

>>679913847
Damn illegals can get all that shit?

I don't really give a shit about the public school part

>>679904176
I'm a real libertarian, and minimum wage should stay put. The last thing it should do is rise. You're just an idiot liberal who likes to use big words to make yourself look smart.

>>679914357
>The last thing it should do is rise.

Why?

>>679914133
You should give shit about the public school part because it's what the government spends the most money on that effects almost every minor in the US directly.

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>>679914357
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

>>679914357
Yes, you're a "correct" kind of libertarian, who probably voted for anybody except Rand Paul.
You think that if you let minimum wage to the market, you're somehow such a strong libertarian.
On other issues, I bet you're like "meh", but minimum wage should definitely not raise.

>>679914133
illegals get almost every benefit citizens do without needing to pay taxes and with a fake social can get the rest of benefits since our government doesnt activaly investigate nor pursue many cases of illegals doing it mainly due to liberal influence on the government and social mindset. why punish them if they just want a better life right? oh but you as a citizen have to pay for it and if you say anything about how its not fair that makes you a racist bigot
i was fired from a burger king when i got 13 illegals arrested who worked there because they were selling meth. i was fired for "unsatisfactory work" when the reality was i pointed out illegals and got punished for following the law. a friends little brother worked there and i was an unofficial example of what not to do and consequences of being racist to minorities

>>679915416
Keep up the good work man
Sucks that happened but at least it was just a BK

You have a better job now?
Also who are you voting for?

>>679906120
Jobs that offer insurance usually make you pay the premiums out of each paycheck. Obamacare has(according to my friends that have to pay for it, my job pays my ins premiums and provide low deductible) added at least an extra $100/mo if not doubled what they have to pay

>>679915817
that was when i 17 in high school. now 6 years later 6 i work for spacex
voting for trump because most of his policies are good, some are bad but i agree with a lot of what he wants to do. better economy, lower taxes with closed loopholes, stronger borders to encourage legal immigration, better trade deals, less active military for other nations(they have to actually have a military budget instead of using ours as a psuedo army) and he seems to be the only person who will actively encourage PC to be done away with
listened and researched others but all of them are just bad. bernie i respect but his policies i do not agree with and some of his stances are just stupid

>>679914596
To keep being a retarded drop out as undesirable as possible of course. There are already alot of those and doubling minimum wage isn't gonna keep people away from dropping out of school, highschool/college/uni

>>679910469
Illegals claim like 12 dependents so they claim exempt and don't pay anything into taxes and then they just don't file. I worked at a place with like 97% illegals before GA made it a rule for employers to i9 verify people

>>679900091

Holy fucking shit. You did it man!!! Congratulations. You are now officially the stupidest motherfucker on the planet.

I have taken the liberty of popping the link for the Guinness book of records people so you can contact them and let them know.

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/set-a-record

Fucktard.

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LET'S MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

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>>679917677
MAGA

congrats edgelords you support trump

>>679917178
Non-illegals make up statistics and don't provide any references for their bullshit.

>>679914804
God you're dumb, Bernie wants to raise minimum wage through the fucking roof, literally every job has been moving it's pay too keep up with how valuable the currency is, including minimum wage, what bernie wants to do is double how much is currently being paid, then continue to adjust it according to the value of the dollar. So basically, he wants to reward people for doing nothing. I can imagine why you would support that

>>679917677
Tiny handed motherfucker

>>679914934
By raise I mean raise the ammount that is actually being given, not keeping on par with inflation, that is fine, because everybody's pay will change accordingly.

>>679904531
I´m Mexican and I will vote for Trump. Stop being a little bitch and have some cojones.

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>>679900091
Bernies the one for you, then.
Socialism = more govt = less freedom = more pc culture = thought police

>>679918027
>So basically, he wants to reward people for doing nothing
He wants to 'reward' people with a living wage for working 40 hours a week, crazy right

>>679917911
Nigga I saw it happen. I know these people. They openly admit what hey do. I will admit that I don't have proof. But I will say that it was a pallet shop that these guys were clearing $500-600 a week at tax free because of their filing status. Every now and again INS would show up and these guys would "go on vacation" but a couple weeks later they were right back. Very frustrating as one of like 4 white guys actually paying taxes and making like 3/4 what they were making.

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>Be liberal
>Think bankrupting your employer is going to fix economy
>Think rich people steal your money
>Think that there is a finite amount of money to be made

>>679918027
It shouldn't be $15 but it should be higher

>>679901345
>Starting a race war

Yes, clearly you're not American. Trump's popularity is a result of poor white people with no access to quality education, no connections, and little hope of their families moving out of poverty being told that they need to acknowledge the privilege they have solely due to the fact of the color of their skin. And they are often being told this by rich spoiled black students (Mizzou and Yale - both people making the biggest deals were from multimillionaire households).

Not only that, but they don't have the countless charities and government programs that non-whited have.

>>679918834
Percentage wise, hispanics support Trump more than whites

>>679899724
op living in a cartoon world

>>679918711
>Think bankrupting your employer is going to fix economy
What policy is going to do that exactly? The higher minimum wage?

>>679918648
You know who aint paying taxes? Rich motherfuckers. You are getting all red in the face over Habib and Jose. Why the fuck aint you mad at Google or Apple?

>>679918828
This is how you play politics. You start from a strong position, and then compromise down to something like 12$

>>679918834
>Poor white people with no acces to quality education
I think your describing Bernie supporters there anon.

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>>679919229
Bernie supporters are mostly college educated young people kek

>>679918612
Yeah, it must be real tough to mop floors at a hospital for example. And for 40hrs a week too?! Fucking hell right? Why should the doctors at said hospital who save lives for a living and work 60 hour weeks get so much more that the janitor? This is robbery, corruption, insanity, I can't wait for berni to save the day

An hero, now

>>679906775
I want to believe.
Proof?

Certain areas in the US could use a high minimum wage (NYC, San Fran), but there are large swaths of our Country where no one makes that much money, so it wouldn't be at all possible for someone to start a company and most businesses would probably shut down. They might be fine with a slight increase, but a $15 federal minimum would certainly be a mistake in the US, and pretty much all sensible economists agree - I even heard that on NPR, liberal radio.

>>679919431
>implying doctors get paid anything close to 15$ an hour

>>679918828
I hope that's a typo

>>679919431
The janitor at my workplace probably works harder than I do to be honest and I make way more than him