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My wife and I are 29. Been married since age 25. Found out last
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My wife and I are 29. Been married since age 25. Found out last week that she has very severe, very advanced endometriosis and is most likely infertile.

I'm considering divorcing her because I want kids. I have a lawyer consultation tomorrow.

Am I a terrible person?
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Nah
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>>679838965
Actually yes, have you ever though having like a surrogat instead?..
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>>679838965

yeah you are a piece of shit, scum of the earth. feel bad idiot.
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Yes you are. I would suggest that you could adopt, but since you think about lefting her, she's probably not the one you would want to raise a child with.
So yeah go, but be gentle with her at least.
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>>679839173

Shit's pricey m8

>>679839177

I'm not the broken one; my dick works gr8 m8
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>>679839173
>>679839177
>>679839309

You need to go back
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>>679839509
To be honest kinda feels like she might actually have a better life without you.
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I wouldn't call you a bad person, it's natural to want children and to be upset if that's no longer an option for whatever reason. However, while your intentions may seem good to yourself, it's not your wife's choice choice that she's infertile. There're other options such as surrogate mothers, ya' know. Honestly, I wouldn't take it personally however if you have your wife extremely angry at you. Then again, I guess you don't love her so it shouldn't matter. :)
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>>679839173
why would he want to perpetuate her defective genes... and pay to do so by hiring a surrogate?
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>>679839761
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>>679838965

you are not the half of a man that she deserves. good luck pussy, free her.
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Refer to Darwin OP
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>>679838965

> you're asking /b/ so obvious responses are "yes, fagit/nigger" with a picture of Hitler or a trap or Hitler as a trap
> this must be bait then
> but are you really foolish enough to not know what /b/ will say?
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>>679838965
Are you a nigger or something? Fucking adopt you tard
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>>679838965
>he didn't have a gynecological exam performed before marriage

lol
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>>679838965
>if you love her
surrogate, or MAYBE adoption....maybe

>if you hate her
divorce

Now fuck off, nigger
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>>679838965
Just adopt a nigger
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It doesn't make you a bad person. You married her with the intent of having kids. She can't provide that. She'd do the same to you if the roles were reversed.
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>>679838965
What you are is an asshole.
If you really loved her you'd stay by her side even if she is sterile.
Do you want kids? You can adopt.
Do you want your own children? You can get what it's called a renting mother so children are yours, though they aren't hers
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Op again.

>>679839880

This.

She is very successful now, however early in our marriage it became clear that she suffered severe depression and untreated depression. Getting her into treatment required my near constant attention and vigilance for just over a year.

She's doing better than I am salary-wise right now, and I have no doubt she'd be fine after a divorce.
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>implying the world needs you to contribute to the gene pool
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Leave her, no time to lose, endometriosis leads to pain during sex, so its pointless to even keep her for sex.
Consider changing your mind on kids.
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>>679838965
pretty much, yeah
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>>679838965
If you are willing to divorce her over a matter like this it would probably be in your best interest to divorce her, because its pretty obvious you really dont love her.
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Op here.

>>679840552

This. She already complains about pain during sex.
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>>679839644
Yeah this sounds about right.
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>>679840552
I can hear the echo of your moms basement and your neckbeard coming from your post, and the cancer it gave me is killing me. Thanks.
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>>679839969
This x 100.
YOU are the defective one, m8.
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Just adopt you faggot
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>>679840683
Sounds like OP needs to try anal.
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>>679838965
Why do niggers even get married now a days?
What is the reasons for it? I mean looking by all your posts you don't love or remotely like her.
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>>679838965
If you lover, stay with her. You can go the surrogate route, even if it's pricey. You could impregnate a breeder, but then you'd have child support and an angry wife.

If you feel ambivalent towards her, this will grow on both of you and make you more angry and depressed over time. Neither of you will enjoy that.

My wife is infertile. I wish I had gone the divorce route.
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>>679838965
Fuckboy asshole. Adopt. It's not her fault.

Selfish fuckass
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>>679839969
>>679840855
male feminists, why you are not on tumblr?
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OP here

>>679840992

> I wish I had gone the divorce route.

Why?
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>>679840855
It's very easy to condemn others when you're not in their situation. You think you're taking the high road. You don't know for shit.
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>>679841045
fat tumblrina is mad.
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>>679841121
Even though I thought I loved her, it grew on me, and now that I'm nearly 60 it's basically too late, I'm childless, and wish I had kids for oh so many reasons.
Adoption is not an option. We didn't want pets.
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>>679839644
This. OP is a piece of shit hopefully your dick gets fucked up after the divorce
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OP here

>>679840144
There have already been some thought-provoking responses posted in this bread. You're not all idiots.
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Sorry to hear about your situation OP. Im divorced a year and a couple days now. My ex and I are still close, she was over most of the day yesterday.

I wanted to have a surrogate. A woman would most likely go fuck some oter dude if you were infertile. My ex didnt have a sister (I think the kid would come out sorta like he would look if she had him) and her cuz was ugly. Also, i think if Im gonna have a kid then I should do the work, o cumming in a cup, Im
fuckin.

So OP. Here is my take. If you want to have your own kids tell her. Forward the subject of a surrogate. If she has a sister or cuz willing to carry the child then great. How she gets pregant is up to you. Or if you and her have to find a surrogate then here is you chance to find and audition the perfect donor. Now you can find a chic who is tall, healthy, no hereditary diseases, smart, whatever else you can think of.

Also, divorce is big step man. My ex and i had problems before her medical issues. We were heading in that direction for a while.
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>>679841045
Adoption is not an obvious option. You have to be prepared for it, you have to have a mindset that can accept another couple's children. No genes, no family history, no continuation of the bloodline.. that's perfectly okay for cucks, but not everyone is into raising pets.
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If you think of your wife merely as a childbearing machine only to be tossed away if it breaks, you better get used to spending your life alone.
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OP here

>>679841705
I'm not interested in adopting. I'm the last male alive in my family; my family's name will die with me unless I have a son.

I see my desire to continue the family name for what it is: primitive and Game-of-Thrones-esque, but the desire is still there.
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>>679841963
"Merely" is callously sanctimonious with more than a touch of hubris. Having a family of your own carries a lot more emotional baggage than you obviously care to consider.
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Just adopt or get a surrogate. Goddamn man, divorcing your wife of 4 years because she can't give birth... You are a terrible person if you do this. Not just that the problem is easily solved. And one more thing, as her husband she'll look to you for comfort and help in this situation and you're considering casting her aside.
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>>679841963
this
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>>679840436
Divorce her. It won't take her long to find a better guy than you anyway.
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>>679842670
This
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>>679838965
yes you are. what part of "till death do us part" do you not understand?
but probably better for her to divorce such a piece of shit. its degenerates like you that are causing the decline of western civilization.
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>>679838965
Yes. You are a fucking shit stain. Adopt, have someone else carry the baby for you (surrogate)
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. . .
Fuck you
. . .
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>>679838965
yes you twat. you're a moron. i hate you
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>>679842351
That's exactly where I was nearly 30 years ago. I did the "manly" thing that the SJWs are frothing about. Fuck them. They probably have perfect lives and have no idea what problems are, or they made the wrong choice and want to share the misery. It was a mistake for me.

Ultimately, this is your decision. I'd recommend "listen to all, follow none."
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>>679841105
>>679841389
>In poverty and wealth, in sickness and health.
Why even marry if your gonna wipe your ass with the vows?
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OP here.

>>679840206
My wife had been going to the oby/gyn twice annually for checkups because we've been trying for pregnancy. It's damn near impossible to diagnose endometriosis without surgery. My wife's endo didn't show up on a CT scan nor on multiple ultrasounds. She'd had an ovarian cyst, thus requiring the surgery, but the docs thought it was a dermoid cyst. We learned about the true nature of the problem only after surgery to remove the cyst.
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Jesus Christ, do you guys honestly think that a guy is a bad person for not loving someone? I personally think that it's understandable to not want to continue things with someone who you can never have kids with. Surrogates are too much effort and costly if you don't really care for your wife, and adopting is somewhat shit.
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>>679838965
fuck it bro the need to procreate is the only true driving factor behind long term relationships so without being able to do so whats the point
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OP here.

>>679843129
Tax benefits.
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>>679842351
You are a piece of shit. Why would you want to pass along those piece of shit genes to newer generations?

The decent thing to do would be to kill yourself, and spare the world not only of your stupidness, but the future generations as well
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Adopt or let her watch you have sex with another woman (natural surrogate)
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>>679840647
this
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>>679838965
If you're going to divorce her over this odds are that other things are wrong with the you, her, or the relationship.

Do what I did - just knock up a bunch of teenagers
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>>679842359
Remove the merely if you wish. The point stands.
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>>679843462
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>>679843216
>do you guys honestly think that a guy is a bad person for not loving someone?
No.
>I'll love you until the day I die, I take this vow.
>You can't have kids?, brb divorcing.
This is why he's getting flak.
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>>679838965
Whatever happened to "Till death do us part"??
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>>679843961
Death of lineage.
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>Surrogacy is expensive

And divorce isn't? Unless you have a pre nup, have fun with that.
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Just adopt
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Op looking at your responses it seems you only take into account comments that are favorable to your opinion. (ofc insults and non constructive comments aside)
So the question is, why bother making this post, since you seem like you've already taken your decision ? Only to confort your point ? Anyways, you sound like a fucking faggot, your bloodline is weak, and you should kill yourself while at it
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>>679838965
Yup
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Look at all these stupid little butches crying about how you're bad, but if this was a female saying the other way everyone would be oh yeah leave him find another man. Kys faggots.
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Grass is always greener.

My wife can't stop getting pregnant. I have more kids than I know what to do with.

That's fertile Mexican women for you.
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>>679843881
Who cares about the fucking vows, faggot? Do you think that "god" is going to be cross hearing that someone broke his promise?
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>>679844172
> /b/ supporting women
Nice bait
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>>679838965
>has a woman
>can fuck all day erryday
>no condom, no childs, no problem
what are you, stupid?
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>>679839509
>Shit's pricey m8
More expensive than losing half your shit in the divorce?
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>>679844172
nigger detected
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>>679844266
So promises only mean something if their made with God and then they're religious humbug?
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>>679844041
Why does that matter? We don't live in the medieval age.
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OP here.

>>679844056
I have a prenup. It's from a different US state, though, and may not hold up in this state's courts.
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>>679844326
/thread
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>>679844468
Promises mean nothing either way, I don't know what you want me to say. There are actual things to gain from being married that have nothing to do with "true love"
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>>679844248
Kek
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>>679838965
Wanting kids fucks wrong with you. You're clearly not a loving enough person to raise them
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>>679838965

Fuck someone else, get her pregnant and then guilt your wife into keeping and then helping raise said child by telling her she's not a real woman and it's her fault she can't have kids.
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>>679844525
Nothing to do with ages. It's a male trait that some faggots don't have, like you.

Spreading our name and seed is fucking awesome.
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I know im late to the thread but why not adopt? Plenty of unwanted kids in the world and god knows we dont need anymore new ones.
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>>679844622
> promises don't mean anything anyway
In that case, just be the dick you want to be.
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Why the fuck you want kids bruh? the suck age 0 to 4 basically, are fun 5 to 8, back to sucking 9 to 25.
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>>679844787
I've got two kids it's not that awesome fam
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>>679844822
> because muh heritage
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>>679844660

This. OP clearly already wants to divorce for reasons he's not mentioning here. So the best choice is to let them both part ways and live for what they want
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OP here.

>>679844145
Disagree. The posts justifying why I shouldn't divorce--which so far center on respect of vows--are definitely getting noticed by me.

>>679844525
You're right, we're not in the medieval age anymore. It shouldn't matter. But it does.
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>>679844562
Having kids isn't just about having them. It's about achieving something with partner. Taking your relationship to the next stage to enjoy the process. You could still this through adoption or surrogate mother. You clearly don't have the emotional maturity to do this.

So yeah, dump her, good luck finding another wife and those awquad talks she'll have with your family member in why you're divorced.

Scum.
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>>679844874
I don't make promises, and if I do they are usually really small stuff, that doesn't make me a dick.
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>>679843851
One of the biggest reasons to get married is to have children and raise a family with two parents. If you can't contribute to that, you're breaking your part of the institution of (classical) marriage. The fact that OP has conscience enough to question his decision is an indicator that he is not a bad person, but under extreme stress. You "kill yourself" idiots are the ones who have no concept of compassion or even attempt to understand another man's plight. You're condemning him to a life of no sex, no lineage, anger, frustration, remorse, envy, depression, all because you think you know what you're talking about because of some "vows." If that was really so important, there wouldn't be divorce for virtually all cases where reasons are vastly more trivial. I suspect "hurr durr" is the appropriate description of your reactions.
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>>679844441
Not nigger you white knight
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Yes you are!!
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>>679844701
Came to say this.

Fuck adoption. You do not want someone elses problem.

If your wife loves you as much as she should, she will have no problem with you impregnating other women. If she is a decent person she will ask the other woman/women to move in with you both.
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>>679844925
I've got 3 kids and it rocks. I'd knock up more women but my wife kill me.

I'm done knocking her up because I don't want her body to be all jacked, it's pretty nice now.
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>>679843395
Being infertile means she's been fucking other guys without you being any the wiser. Cuck.
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>>679845083
Well yeah, but op made a promise and it's not that small either.
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>>679844266
Not even about god, but if he can't even keep his word on this supposedly one time a lifetime vow, how can anybody rely on him for anything?, personally I would have hated to have people like him when I served.
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Op here.

>>679844326
>>679844614
See posts
>>679840683
>>679840552
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>>679838965
In this case, if roman catholic, you can even get a cancellation of church wedding and remarry.
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>>679845311
I mean I love my kids but damn they're a hassle sometimes, and this guy clearly won't be able to handle that
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>>679845366
Likes I said, promises don't mean anything, don't suggest that getting married means that you HAVE to be with that person for the rest of your life.
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>>679838965
no but its something you talk with your wife first instead of going to a lawyer you idiot
your going to make the thing worse for with that
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I work with a gril who has endometriosis - she tells everyone. She's a cunt and also a whore because she knows she can't get pregnant.
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Yes. Yes you are. Adopt a fucking kid.
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>>679845426
>inplying that marriage means being together forever
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>>679839761
this right here
you dont seem to love her in the first place
so why does it matter to you, you sick fuck
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Have you discussed this with your wife at all? Or immediately set up a consult with a lawyer?
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>>679838965
You gonna consider leaving your kid if he's retarded too?
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>>679845582
No doubt. Kids are the biggest cock blockers around. When I'm fucking my wife they slip notes and dolls under the locked door.

In 10 years when I will require them to be armed things will be different.
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>>679838965

honestly pal thats a fucked up situation

i have a wife and kid. if my wife was infertile we would have just adopted, no big deal. her dad was adopted and hes the most grounded solid guy i've ever met. i think nurture matters more than nature in this situation

if i felt like passing on my genes was more or equally as important as passing on my values then i dunno what i'd have done.

that being said i love my wife, so divorcing her wouldnt have entered my mind. i'd probably have stayed with her and just let the resentment play out
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Adopt? I mean, if you really lived your wife I don't think you should leave her over this when there are so many alternatives for having children..
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>>679844925
Having kids just gets worse and worse anon
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>>679838965
Yes ure aa human filth, a disgrace to mankind. Id do the same if i wanted kids
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>>679838965

You're a terrible person for wanting kids.
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>>679845644
Like I said, I disagree and I think most people would assume that you'd keep a promise.

You're acting like someone who owes money, saying long isn't real and doesn't matter.

But like other people pointed out already, OP doesn't seem invested in the relationship anyway.
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>>679845457
>implying she only has one hole
how does she eat, shit, and work at home?
or does she have a throat, an ass and at least one hand?
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>>679846070
*long=money
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ITT Op is literally Hitler.

>My wife with her depression and endometriosis is INFERIOR for the MASTER RACE.

Fuck off OP. I hope your next love leaves you when you need her.
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>>679845879
I go buy mine like a game or some shit when I want to fuck cause I think they know they can fuck with me, also you training yours to use guns fam?
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>>679841676
follow this anons advice /b/ro
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>>679838965
Wow you're a piece of shit.
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>>679846231

i thought that was some cutting edge new nigger slang for interest at first
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>>679845971
They're not that bad stopped me from getting a divorce
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Just adopt you cuck
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>>679846070
Honestly, you're naive as fuck for believing that shit
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>>679838965
>Am I a terrible person?
Yes. A person unable or unwilling to take care of their close ones should not be allowed to reproduce.
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>>679846557
I guess trust is dead?

>>679846417
I can see that.
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>>679846339
Training - trying. Right now all they do is yell and scream. I make them practice their war face.
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Yes, you are a horrible, shitty person. You married her and promised to be there for her until death. She's not just a womb with tits and eyeballs, she's a fucking human being. I can't even get a girlfriend no matter how hard I try and you're going to throw one away because she can't give you a baby. You're going to be a horrible father anyway. You don't want to take care of a living, breathing, shitting thing, you want to pretend you're not a beta like the rest of us and be some hollow shell of a father figure. Fuck you.
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OP here.

>>679845657

I did talk with my wife. I've spent the last week talking to my wife. She cried uncontrollably for the first 2 days of that. I've missed an unexpected week of work because of her endometriosis, and it'll only get worse. As she ages she'll have frequent abdominal pain, frequent pain during sex. She'll miss days of work from the pain. She'll have a hysterectomy by the time she's 40, sending her into immediate menopause.
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Yes you are.
But it doesn't mean that you have to be unhappy for the rest of your life just to not hurt her feelings.
You just need to be very upfront to her.
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>>679846636
Why should he take care of someone that he doesn't love?
>>679846766
Correct
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>>679845903
I would never adopt and I dont understand why people want to unless theyre both infertile

I want to have my own flesh and blood personally and I wouldnt settle for adoption unless I found out my sperms was prone to genetic defects
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>>679846890
Alright then, I hope you never have to rely on another person.
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>>679846795
How old are they fam my youngest just started and my daughter has for 3 years now
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>>679846820
It doesn't fucking matter if she goes into menopause. You should have married her for love. You fucking sociopath you shouldn't be allowed to have children
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>>679838965
nah, whatever modern society will tell ya, love is a chemical reaction brought by the animalistic instinct of mating to bring about humans' only real purpose: to reproduce and spread, not unlike disease.

if mammal finds barren mate, mammal searches for new mate. thats just nature buddy
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>>679846820
How's YOUR genetics Fuckface?
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>>679846820

sounds like a harsh existence OP

if you dont think you could stick it out and support her then you probably should divorce her. but dont have kids with anyone else either. you dont seem the right sort for it
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No! That should be great news! You don't have to wear a condom!
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>>679845903
not OP, but you've helped me out a lot anon, thank you <3
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>>679838965
I would say yes, it's something she can't help and you just have to make it worse
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>>679847076
I don't rely on others because I'm not some emotionally distraught beta who kills themselves when someone doesn't love them
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>>679846820
brah final answer
Did you marry her because of love , REAL love
or just because you wanted to have a family ??
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I understand your desire to procreate and I sympathize with that. I also feel very sorry for your wife, who not only can't have children and is in terrible pain, physically and emotionally, but her husband is leaving her because she is unable to give him what she wants.

It's a shitty situation. If you have any love or respect for her, just be kind and make it easy and painless for you both when you leave. If you leave. It's the least you can do, considering this isn't her fault nor yours. I wish you the best.
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>>679847127
>>679847172
when the fuck did 4chan become a tumblr hug box holy shit you newshits disgust me

you dont know what its like to be brought down by another person and essentially have a deteriorating relationship so you should probably grow the fuck up
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>>679847105
5 or so. I started them on bb / paintball guns. My 7 year old is starting to show signs of proper gun safety and respect. I'll probably get him a .22 in a year or so.
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>>679847409
So you grow all your own food and filter your own water? Or do you just trust the appointed officials?
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>>679838965
You are. You married through sickness and in health. You shouldn't have married when if things get rough that you pussy out. You never loved her unconditionally then.
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OP here.

>>679846819
Chill bro. You're not gonna get a girlfriend throwing tantrums like this.

Our marriage was done for practical reasons (tax benefits, health insurance) just as much as it was done for love. My wife and I are both atheists: if the government hadn't told us that we needed to be married to get the aforementioned tax and health insurance benefits, we wouldn't have gotten married. I already mentioned that we have a prenup.
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>>679847630
I pay for that and they have a legal obligation to fulfill, as opposed to marriage
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>>679847381

not a problem

can i ask how?
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>>679846890
That is a good argument! You actually don't have to. However, OP married the girl, made her family. That is different, we humans take care of our own.
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OP here.

>>679847172
Pretty good. I have had genetic prehypertension (130/65 blood pressure ballpark) since age 20. I manage it with exercise and diet. I have had a sperm count performed: I'm fertile.
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>>679838965
Yeah you are actually a huge pile of shit and if you were a friend we would no longer be friends and I would probably punch you in the nose. When you take your vows at your wedding it is more than just the promise to that woman/man it is taking an oath in front of your friends, family, their friends and family and the priest/pastor/justice of the peace that you will stand by the other no matter what. If you weren't married and it was a girlfriend or fiance then no big deal. But, you gave your word as an honor bond and to turn away from that discredits anything you have said as truth as your word, like you, would no longer have a spine.
There are options of a surrogate, insemination and even procedures that can basically clean out her scar tissue inside of her. But, then there is the option of being a coward and not facing reality instead of digging deep inside yourself to the core of what it is to be a man which is to solve problems and find a solution. Where there is a will there is a way.
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>>679847811
So you do trust in money and you trust that the people will do as they say and you trust the state will enforce it, if they chicken out?
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>>679847569
This is me >>679847172


There's no more growing up to do.

I raised my wife's 2 kids as my own. I'm proud of them as adults now.
See I valued a family more than passing on my genetics.

Unlike a selfish cumstain as you are.
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>>679840683
Sorry man you aren't a good husband go marry a shallow cunt such as yourself you don't love her.
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OP here.

>>679848285
We had a shotgun wedding at a courthouse with no witnesses present. We have a prenup.
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>>679838965
yes you are the cancer
kys fgt
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>>679838965
You're a peice of shit op. You're gonna break this poor woman's heart over something she can't control. You have a wife that you can cum inside of nonstop and never get her pregnant. Just adopt Nigger.
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>>679848423

i must know OP, is your wife into butt stuff?
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>>679848089
So he should be a FORCED into nice to her because he married her? Should a parent love their son even if he joined ISIS and killed 500 children?
>>679848335
I will enforce it if the government won't, but since they do, I don't have to.
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>>679838965
Sounds like you truly love her.
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>>679848423
>We have a prenup
Somehow I don't find that surprising.
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>>679848510
>adopt
>literally/knowingly/willingly raise someone else's unwated bastard who doesn't share your genes

ultimate cuck
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>>679841419
you're as outdated as a broken clock!
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>>679838965
medfag here.

endometriosis, particularly in severe cases, is a debilitating, usually very very painful, uncurable, sometimes dangerous disease that, in case of infertility, shatters not only the body, but very oftenly the mind of a woman as it destroys all aspirations of motherhood, which is, for most women, a desire that arises very early in life and never really leaves them. most of young patients with endometriosis require some kind of psychological help and never fully recover from the emotional stress at least until they get to menopause.

so, just to recap, your idea would be to put more emotional pain, a divorce, and a possible everlasting sense of guilt and inadequacy on top of all this crap she already has to go through?
disease is not a crime, you imbecile.

and yes. you are a terrible person. an egotistical fucktard with no human empathy of any kind, not even for illness. you would stab your brother if he suddently became a weight to shed.

and giant turds like you are the main reason why those sjw and feminists nutjobs are taking over half the fucking world.
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>>679839509
>Shit's pricey m8
More pricey than losing half your shit on a divorce? Or more pricey than nine months worth of doctor visits and the hospital bill for delivering the baby?
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>>679838965
You are the exact stereotypical male that make sjws come into existence.
Do us all al favor and off yourself because your clearly just existing to spread your cancer Into the gene pool rather then support those who care
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>>679848423
BS the ourthouse still requires witness' signature. Prenup doesn't mean anything either other than a protection of property. It's very obvious you have no teeth and no balls and can't even stand by your own word let alone your own wife.
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>>679838965
I would have the same thoughts, and honestly yes you are a horrible person.
If your balls were broken, and she wanted to leave you, how would you feel? Would you think it was ok?

Surrogate, or adopt.
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different anon here. OP i see where you're coming from, but that is a dick move. go surrogacy. if you don't have the money, your wife doesnt agree with it, or you're a moneygrabbing jew, nut in a cup at your local sperm bank without your wife knowing. repeat this process once or twice a week at various sperm banks to increase your chances of furthering your bloodline. want them to have your name but dont care enough about your wife of 4 years to spend money on surrogacy? divorce her. im not saying you're an asshole, im saying that this is a very asshole thing to do.
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>>679848810
in 2016 if you aren't getting a prenup you're retarded. And if your partner won't get a prenup, that's like a thousand red flags get out while you can
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OP here

>>679848810
Not having a prenup is for betas. Really.
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>>679838965
Yeah, you're a fucking weak ass shit head. You could find a dike couple and have one or both of them artificially inseminate. Share the kids 4 parents are better than 2. Everybody wins.

Side note. Kids are fucking hard work. You don't have any - you don't know. Splitting up the responsibility would be good.
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>>679848840
go kill yourself better than breeding more fucking shitbags into the world who we have to pay for you stupid fuckhead I like my money bitch.
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>>679848958
you sound like an edgy beardlord from yonder
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>>679840510
/thread
sage
Underrated post
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>>679848688
Yeah, sure you will tough guy. I trust you analyse any product you purchase down to a chemical level to ensure you got sold exactly what you paid for?
Doesn't matter you still trust in shit, we all do. Trust is a fundamental part of any society, it's the basis of not having to do everything yourself.

I'm not saying that you cant break promises or back out of them, its just not very highly regarded in our society, since you're basically just lying.
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>>679839509
You are the broken one if I was her I would device you. You god danm morronic ape
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>>679838965
That sucks anon, you should keep her in bed then until she is served since you wont be getting any for a while afterwards.
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No. but have you considered a surrogate?
it's still 100% your and her child

But that's exactly why Muslims can marry more than wife.

if the first is sick, keep her and get a second one.
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>>679838965
No, but you're a fucking dumb shit for wanting to ruin 20 years of your life with kids.
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>>679849238
are you a genius O.o

because I'm not a robot: check
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>>679838965

she'll get pregnant, just not with your child.
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>>679848688
There is a difference between being nice and taking care dumb twat.
>Should a parent love their son even if he joined ISIS and killed 500 children?
lel
You mad bro?
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OP here.

>>679849115
This x 1000.
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>>679838965
Itt a poor beta male can't handle a woman or the fact that he can't cancer up the gene pool

She should divorce you and you should kill yourself as no rea women would ever want a asshole like you to exist
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>>679849223
Only beta is you fag bait you bitched out thats what betas do.
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i have a solution for you OP. kill yourself. no child needs to be raised by someone like you, with your values. do the world a favor and never breed.
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