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The usual, hateful gun debate threads usually start from an anti-perspective. Well I'm on the pro-gun & pro-freedom side and I'm here to educate some liberals!
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Anyone?
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doesn't assault rifle just mean it can switch between semi and fully auto?
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>>679189476
It means anything the liberal pussies are scared of
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>>679189582
but is that what it means?
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>>679189476
In my state it means a rifle with removable magazine with a pistol grip, adjustable stock, or threaded barrel. It is targeted towards ar-15s and ak-47s. Those scare the most soccer moms. Though, before that law took effect, they weren't "assault rifles"
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>>679189740
>ak47
>not an assault rifle
wat
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>>679189045
Fuck yeah post your guns fegits
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>>679189045
This
Also
>lurking
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>>679189045
>>679189476
>>679189677
assault rifles have extra deadly clips that hold more bullets per second.
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Same fag with beretta
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>>679189882
>actually using the the term assault rifle
>letting the liberals win
wut
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>>679189896
My Beretta serves a different purpose.
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>>679189045
gun control works in civilised countries because we don't have packs of gun wielding psychos constantly wondering the streets to the point where carrying a firearm for self defence is the best option
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>>679189045
Car deaths are due to misuse. Firearm deaths are due to them being used for their intended purpose.
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I could explain mechanical differences in "assault rifles" and "assault weapons".
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>>679190056
but like, it is a real thing? its what the millitary use
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>>679190147
More like you don't have spics or niggers.
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>>679190143
Nice m8 was looking at one of those recently
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>>679190156
Really? What's an AR-15 Sporter designed for? Varmint hunting.
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>>679190156
A firearm death (or car death for that matter) isn't always a bad thing. What about shooting a rapist that is probably going to kill you?
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>>679189977
>yes officer i was only defending myself from that guy 500m away, thats why i need this scope
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>>679190147
Lack of gun control works too, look at Switzerland.
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>>679190432
>implying you can hit somebody at 500m effectively with a 55gr .223
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>>679190273
It is a military rifle. Assault rifle is a term used to push gun control propaganda.
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I have my dealer looking for a cmr 30, im not expecting any results. Fucking kel tec
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>>679190521
a lightweight rifle developed from the sub-machine gun, which may be set to fire automatically or semi-automatically.

so no
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>>679190334
The kick-off stock is fucking sweet. 3 1/2" magnum turkey loads know you around but the hydrolics help.

I used to shoot competition skeet with it. My fav shotgun.
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>>679190522
Not too bad actually. Kel-Tec is pretty good.
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>>679189045
I mean you should ban Dodge Challengers, and any car that is too powerful.
470HP is too much.
It should be a brighter color like yellow so no one will run into, and can identified by police easier.
You can keep the shape. Just give it a 2.0 liter I-4, and should eventually be phased out for electric cars, for I-3 1.2 liters with a lighter body and more efficient cargo space.
If you want to drive something as fast as an American Muscle, you should have a special license that requires a criminal back ground and psychological evaluation. Also, if they have a DUI, the car should be confiscated.
I mean, do you want drunk schizophrenic teenagers killing people on the highway at 150mph?
tbh I'm just being logical. I know there are going to be trolls that say you should just be allowed to own dangerous tools needlessly, but that's the mindset of an average American now.
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>>679190432
>need
bill of RIGHTS not NEEDS, lib
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>>679190156
If you break down the statistics most gun violence is suicide and the majority of whats left is stolen/ illegal weapons purchased on the street or black market. Citizens need guns to be citizens, otherwise we would be subjects not citizens.
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>>679189045
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>>679190651
Is our society being soccer momed into a playground?
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>>679190432
Its more for a tyrannical government and less for self defense lol thats what the beretta is for
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daily reminder of the kind of people who own guns
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>>679190615
no what? there is a legal definition of assault rifle and it is only there to defacto ban popular rifles to slowly cut away the fundamental human right to defend yourself.
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>>679190156
"assault weapons" account for less American deaths than falling vending machines.
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>>679190735
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>>679190650
Yeah but that hype the shit out of their guns, then boom make only a handful. Ive been in love with them since the plr 16, but i was a broke bitch when they first came out only $300 now shit if you find one in good condition itll cost you about $500. I expect the same thing with the cmr 30
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>>679190631
God damn! Thats a god tier shotgun haha
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>>679190864
you mean you want it to shoot cops with?
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>>679190767
I mean, just because you want to own deadly toys doesn't mean they should be legal.
Cars that fast wouldn't be legal if they were discovered one day.
Maybe this might make more sense once you get older, and wiser.
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>>679190867
or, you know, 200 million people spread accross literally every stereotype.
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>>679190651
Is this bait?
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>>679191018
Nigga i am a cop
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>>679191087
>call it bait

Nice to know you at least know you can't argue it.
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>>679191049
well yeah it could also be that but it isn't
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>>679189968
I'm willing to discuss whether or not gun control should be a thing, then I saw this picture.
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>>679191041
Do you truely believe this?
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>>679190953
I want the RFB. .308 bullpup
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>>679191104
I think you just won the arguement, liberals believe that cops have more right to these things. As long as the violent criminal you are defending yourself against isn't a minority.
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>>679191104
i'm going to america for a year for college
the first thing they warn us is to stay away from the cops
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>>679191233
I truly know it.
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>>679191202
Oh i can argue it, i was just wondering if you were being legit or trolling.
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>>679189045
>implying i care about your shit tier opinion enough to be "educated"
Nice straw man idiot.
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>>679191285
Buy it then m8 this is america not mexico
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>>679189677
>>679189381
Yes. However many people don't realize this and think that they're any black rifle.
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>>679191333
What country are you from? I'm assuming it's in Western Europe due to the bluepilling. Go to a shooting range while over here.
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>>679191358
>accusations of trolling
kek. Looks like I win another one.
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>>679189045
Difference being you gotta actually go through a screening process and be certified before getting a license for a car. This can take up to weeks. I can get a gun today if I wanted, and I've never held one before in my life.
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>>679191285
Oh yeah. The cmr 30 is kinda gimicky, but i read reviews and it seems like a fun gun to take out and shoot. But yeah the rfb is pretty cool
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>>679191207
if you believe that every one of those 200 million people (thats the actual number btw) are all sperg ninja neckbeards, you are drastically out of touch with the world around you.
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>>679191333
Na man im cool lol ill help you with whatever. Protect and serve the citizens not the government!
>freedom
>enjoy that shit while you're here
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>>679189045
Fuck freedom.
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>>679191375
"my opinion is greater even though i don't show facts."
>proceeds to call OP's opinion shit tier
>provides no evidence why he his right
typical leftist
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>>679191333
Kill yourself, europig. Police are heroes, europig. Die.
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>>679191354
So because something is dangerous, humans shouldnt be around it or own it, that is the jist of your argument?
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>>679191391
Too broke. Fresh outta HS.
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>>679191218
I'm just thinking about the safety of the children, man.

Does anyone really NEED anything more than food, air and water?
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>>679189045
If you walk around a corner, the gun can still get you, the american car cannot.

>lolcantturn.jpg
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>>679191447
yup
i've shot guns before, they aren't illegal here, you just have to have a legitimate reason to own one (that includes collecting)
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>>679191720
My legitimate reason: To defend my shit against angry packs of niggers
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>>679190867
Or, you know, like Keanu Reeves....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmkZx6-DpZM

And, tbh, he's pretty damn good with 'em too!!
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>>679190864
>>679191104
>Tyrannical government
>Police Officer
Whose side are you on? I mean i'm just asking.
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>>679191587
"fuck freedom"
>uses freedom of speech to say it
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>>679189045
>ban cars
It's a car. There's a fucking use for it unlike 'muh huntin rifleh'

>ban cars that drive well over legal limits
Fuck 'em. Ban the shit it out of them.

I couldn't care less if ambulances, firetrucks and policecars were the only vehicles who could go faster than 100mph.

>liberulz
No. I'm not in the US and I'm not in EU, but keep guessing.
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>>679191619
They shouldn't be allowed to own or operate a dangerous tool unless they have proven their ability to use it to acceptable standards, and then they should not be allowed to use it unless they have a reason to.
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>>679191844
Probably the side that pays him, you know the tax payers
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>>679191654
Some gun stores finace!
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>>679191484
No, thats to use it on public roads. I can own and operate a car on public property without any license or registration.

You also go through a screening process involving a call to the fbi to buy a gun. Your lack of education on a subject shouldn't effect my right to own a gun. The gun also comes with instructions and safety manuals. Just like a car, or any other machine
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>>679191945
Banning everything: Australia.
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>>679191576
doesn't seem all that free to me, they'll be NSAing my every movement while i'm there, i'm mostly just coming because UT is a great uni and i get in basically for free

seriously though they tell us some proper horror stories about american cops, one of the guys who just came back from his year abroad apparently got guns pointed at him when police stormed his frat party because there was weed there
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>>679191949
So we should have licenses to use ladders or step stools? Or the shower/tub?
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/b/ made me anti-gun.
I'm absolutely opposed to giving anything more dangerous than a nail clipper to people as hateful, paranoid and irrational as the pro-gun people posting here...
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>>679191484
Ever heard of NICS?
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>>679191844
Oh what because im a cop i have to be a sheep? Talk to a cop dude we see more shit than you realize. If they take our guns it will be UN troops not us or cops
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>>679191681
While I understand the analogy, they're a bit extreme. Posting this will only enrage people that support gun control and no actual discussion will get done.
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Time for some stats for this thread.

Guns cause crime right?
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>>679192149
Face it, you were anti-gun before.
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I see myself as pretty liberal. I smoke weed, I don't mind the government giving us free healthcare, and embryonic stem cell research isn't terrible.

That being said I am completely for guns. I own many. I shoot them often. I love firearms.

The history behind guns is very interesting and worth looking up. Guns are so damn cool.

And I'd shoot any motherfucker who would try to take them away. It's our right.
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>>679192194
>>679192194
ok here's some actual evidence of the impact of gun control then
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>>679192186
>conspiricy theorists are allowed to shoot you with no punishment in america
:^)
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>>679192115
It depends on relative risk.
Yes, you should need a license to use and own a ladder more than 1 story tall. This will prevent criminals from accessing roofs, and falling in such event.
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>>679192287
This

It's about freedom and making life better for citizens, not making the world a personal utopia based on a specific set of values.
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>>679192103
Na man shit like that only happens when your neighbor says theres a bunch of people with drugs next door.

>could be frat party
>could be drug den

And black lives matter gives us a bad name alot of good cops die now because we are too scared of doing our job and ending up in jail.

You will meet asshole cops but its hard to do this job and be nice ya feel me?
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involved communities plus well trained and staffed law enforcement will always be more effective than arming every citizen
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>>679192560
Don't worry about it bro. BLM is nothing but a legal Black Panther movement.
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>>679192617
Even if that were true, why does that mean the law should state i HAVE to be unarmed?
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>>679192287
nigger liberal shut the fuck up you dont even know how to read
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>>679192423

Na man black lives matter ruiend that for us now we get sued for even having our guns out.

Been on the force for 5 years and never fired a single round

>but we will taze yo fucking ass
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>>679192617
100 Police with pistols
>1000 civilians w/ ARs
>10,000 civilians w/ Shotguns
>15,000 civilians w/ pistols
Who's the more effective force?
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>>679192452
You can die from a three foot fall. Should we cushion every hard surface? Where does it end? What is not a risk to you, could be a risk to another person. Should we ban knives and bats? Should only pro baseball players own bats, should chefs only own knives? Should i not prepare my own food, i could die from that.
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>>679192186
I didn't mean it in a bad or insulting way. I actually want to join Law Enforcement in the future. I was just thinking that the police and government were on the same side.
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>>679191041
I doesn't make sense, and never will... Are you suggesting cars may one day reach 2000 feet per second!?

Fuck, cars at 35mph are bad enough...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3FKhUIfuVE
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>>679192828
this
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>>679192372
Much better. Interesting facts - I didn't know these.
I'd be much happier if everyone posted these and there was actual discussion going on
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>>679192560
i think the fundemental difference between the britbong police force and yours is that ours is trained to diffuse situations and keep the peace, whereas yours is trained to arrest as many criminals as possible

im honestly really impressed with the situations our police can deal with without using a gun
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I used to be full liberal maybe 8 months ago, but that shit is collapsing quick. I mean, the NRA are fucking idiots, but people do need access to guns. There's consistently more gun violence in places where they're completely illegal. And it doesn't have to be LA or Chicago, look at the UK. More gun deaths than America and guns are completely illegal there. Just don't use the shitty "cars can kill people, so those should be illegalized?" because argue as much as you want, guns were invented to kill. Just that their use changed over the centuries.
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>>679193015
The way these thread usually go, my folder is more full of these tbh. fb fudd tier hier
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>>679193027
>incorrect, there are plenty of target pistols, rifles, shotguns, etc.
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>>679189045

Choose:

- Free education for everyone.
- Guns are allowed.
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>>679193027
There are more gun related deaths in the UK than America? Gonna need a source on that.
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>>679193190
We have both in america
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>>679192756
it is very true and despite laws people will always try to acquire the things they desire/need

>>679192893
you're retarded or bait
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>>679193274
that free education is shit though

>plus i think he meant college
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>>679192941
We enforce government laws but lets be real dude they fuck us pretty bad. You will see lol
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>>679193235
That's a wrong statement, but there is a higher homicide to capita rate when you subtract gang violence from the U.S.
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>>679193027
The UK doesn't have more gun deaths than the US, either total or per capita. It's not even close
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>>679193274
>education
>america
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>>679193363
We still have it
He didnt mention quality
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Liberals get a bad rep nationally for gun hate.

Where I'm from, most liberals are pro gun. Granted, this is Texas. You're a weirdo here if you've never shot or don't own firearms as a male.
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>>679193027
I own a lot of target guns built for competitions that are NOT designed to kill. The original idea of a car was to get you from place to place but we make race cars now that you can't use on public roads.
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>>679193429
>plus i think he meant college
>plus i think he meant college
>plus i think he meant college
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>>679193431
All the smart liberals I know (am one) are pro gun or indifferent
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>>679193422
>green
>text
Keep moving the goal posts. We have both, deal with it
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>>679193274
Then why don't you have MIT papers?
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>>679190414
> If you aren't even allowed to protect your own life, then how can someone else have that responsibility?
By qualifying through a required higher education course to ensure compliance with all laws and regulations, submitting to a government agency that registers, ranks, oversees, regulates, tests, and scrutinizes them, to justify their responsibility to safeguard the lives of others instead of indiscriminately shooting anyone who interferes with their feels.
> If you have a right to life, then surely you have a right to defend it.
No, you have a right to life does not imply you have a right to defend it. The means and individual responsible from that right to life is not automatically implied to be you. You pay taxes, and in that sense it is you who defends yourself, by purchasing a police force which defends you.
> Therefore, there should be a strong presumption in favor of a legal right to bear arms.
There should be, yes, but not for the reasons you state. The purpose of citizen gun ownership is to ensure that power flows from the governed to the government only by consent. Assassination, martyrdom, and revolution are supposed to be forms of voting. Your elected representatives are supposed to fear not only losing the vote, but the threat of rebellion. Ideally the threat of rebellion shouldn't have to ever actually be used - it should be a deterrent. But in the past century we've seen the political process corrupted sufficiently that in practice the police have no moral outrage of their own and are merely a private military for whatever politician runs their jurisdiction. Police should instead be the servants of the people, ready to step in and defend us themselves from such corruption. They are after all citizens as well.
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>>679192917
Yes, but there are less deaths with 100 people falling from 3 feet than there are from 20 feet.
Knives should be allowed in approved kitchens, and be illegal to carry on the street without a license to carry a knife/concealed weapon.
Baseball bats should not be allowed to leave approved baseball fields/ storage areas a certain distance away from fields.
This way you can use something for its purpose, but only to the limits of its purpose if you have proven to know how to properly use that item, and if the item is not proven to be significantly dangerous, there shouldn't be restrictions set on it.

It makes sense if you actually think about it.
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>>679193531
You said education. Not higher education.
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>>679193365
can you give me an example? i wanna know what to expect
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>>679193506
>he didnt say it
>he didnt say it
>he didnt say it
He can imply whatever, maybe itll teach him to edit his posts before he spouts nonsense
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>>679193531
We have free education in america
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>>679189045
Oh maybe the difference is that one is made for killing and the other one for transport?
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>>679189045
>>679189968
Really well thought out arguments that aren't false equvilances in the least.
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>>679193810
One is made for sport, the other is also made for sport.
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>>679193331
so why make it illegal if people are going to do it anyways? When the majority of the population does something (in this case, own a gun), why stick to prohibitive laws to punish the majoirty? It's the same problem with weed and a 55mph speed limit. I go 60 and am being passed at around 70 literally every day. But the speed limits don't change, we just keep giving these people tickets and charging them to make money for the gov't.
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>>679193019
Have you been to an american ghetto?
Try to reason with some of those people.

>pro tip: you fucking cant

And our goal is remove the threat.
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>>679193656
It makes sense to only have my property in certain zones that are deemed neccesary by other people? No it doesnt.
If you want to turn america or your country into a padded safe zone, you are mistaken. It will accomplish nothing, next thing youll be saying how i should go for walks because i might get hit by a car
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>>679190456

Thinks Switzerland has no gun control.... lawlz
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>>679192946
Cars that are electric/ >50HP with a 5/5 crash test safety rate are fine.
LPGs and fast cars should be banned.
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>>679191985
they don't "pay him" idiot.
just because you pay taxes for schools doesn't make you a fucking principle.
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>>679194041
we have ghettos in britain too
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>>679193019
>keep the peace
>with MP5's
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/05/28/british-police-guards-armed-with-smgs/
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>>679190718

Lol.... citizens need guns to be citizens?

I missed that part of the constitution
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>>679190799
how the hell did that faggot miss the dude that opened the door to ask directions
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Gotta say, it's hilarious seeing people arguing against gun control as if the goal is to ban them entirely. The goal is to require background checks, not take away firearms from all citizens.
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>>679194235
No but it allows me to vote in members of the school board who control funding and rules.
Use the internet to do more than shitpost
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>>679193190
Guns...

Why?

Because there IS NO SUCH THING AS FUCKING FREE!!!! SOMEONE has to pay for it eventually...

Worse are the fucksticks who have been led to believe that the Government can GIVE anything it has not first TAKEN from someone else...

Choke on a tofu cock, you fucking pussy Liberal faggot.
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>>679189045
vehicles are regulated and registered to licensed users
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>>679194239
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
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>>679194335
You know that happens already right, minus p2p sales
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>>679194275
thats the firearms unit, they're only brought out when theres actually a gunfight, i've never even seen one
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>>679194110
>how i should go for walks because i might get hit by a car

There soon won't be cars, so it's not going to be a problem. Also, your only argument now is that it's a slippery slope to make responsible legislation. You are the biggest problem with America and the world.
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>>679194239
yeah, and theres a reason nobody whos not a fucking chav goes near them
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>>679194335
Australia confiscated them in 1996
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>>679194239
And theyre full of junkies with illegal guns? Ive been to the uk its not bad at all. We have so much gang violence its not even funny. Plus you have to remeber you're on your own island.


And we are on a island with mexico.
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>>679194517
There's clearly not a gun fight going on
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>>679194041
we should arm all black people to defend their homes and families
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>>679193898
> why make it illegal if people are going to do it anyways? When the majority of the population does something (in this case, own a gun), why stick to prohibitive laws to punish the majoirty?
I'm pro-gun, but your thought here needs a sanity check: Because the majority can be wrong. A wrong majority doesn't get to tyrannize the minority in this country. If the majority thought it was okay to enslave niggers, the state still has the responsibility to make that not happen to protect the minority of niggers. There is only one minority: Self. All questions of rights and liberty are questions of one individual against the will of the rest of the nation, and who should win in such a case. The man who has a right to not be a slave has that right even if everyone else in the country wants him to be a slave. The argument by majority is a fallacy.
This has just been a sanity check. I'm not anti-gun. You just need a stronger argument.
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>>679194694
Why shouldn't someone be able to defend themselves?
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>>679194405
Do you actually bother with that shit though?
Thats what I thought.
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>>679194694
Theyre already armed. Who said they were black?

>fucking racist
>smh
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>>679194621
oh i diddn't actually click the link, we do have firearms units with smgs though, they're like swat teams

these guys are clearly guarding important landmarks so one would assume they're counter terrorism
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>>679193557
That image isn't talking about legal rights dictated by a governmental document. It's talking about natural rights.

If you are on an island with noone to rule you, every living thing there (yourself included) has an equal right to live, eat, reproduce. It is not a gauruntee to those things, it is to say that you all have the same claim to those things. The hog will try to kill you and you will try to kill the hog to protect your own life. or you will eat the plants as sustinence and they will emit smells or be colorful to try to scare you away. I will fight to my last breath to survive, regardless of what a jury of my peers thinks about what I did.

>By qualifying through a required higher education course to ensure compliance with all laws and regulations, submitting to a government agency that registers, ranks, oversees, regulates, tests, and scrutinizes them, to justify their responsibility to safeguard the lives of others instead of indiscriminately shooting anyone who interferes with their feels.
Is literally saying that someone else knows when it is appropriate for you to live and when you should die.
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>>679194407
confirmed big business cuck
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>>679194413
Not on private property, that is just to use them on public roads.
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Let me clear something up for some of you guys. There's actually a difference between an ASSAULT RIFLE and an ASSAULT WEAPON.

An assault rifle is an official term for a select-fire rifle with a detachable magazine, such as an M16. It has a clear definition and set of laws that accompany it. It is very costly to purchase such a rifle in the US now.

An 'assault weapon' is a political term made up by anti gun liberals like Diane Feinstein to sound scary, and encompass a loose list of features such as a pistol grip, folding stock, etc, or just outright name scary looking guns, such as the semiautomatic version of the M16, the AR15.

Assault rifles are heavily regulated through additional licensing and taxes as a method to circumvent the 2nd Amendment.

"Assault weapons" were regulated through the very law that defined them during the Clinton administration, and had since expired.

I'm not talking down to anyone, just clearing up an easily confused issue.
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The car argument is misguided it should reference climate change and the excesses of fast cars

Too bad repubtards can't into science
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>>679194536
Nice attack m8. You were the one talking about regulating things that provide a relative risk, i was just trying to flesh out what items are considered a relative risk. If cars, guns, and anything else becomes regulated because of the risk, where will it end? You are the one who brought this up, im merely showing you that anything can be banned based off of your definition.
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>>679194869
Yes i do. I take my civic duties seriously. Sorry you only care about what affects you directly
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>>679194407
What round does that shoot? Also, that suppressor seems small.
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>>679194587
The murder rate in the UK is over x2 higher than the US, a gun is a convenient tool but if someone wants you dead, you're dead. Gang violence is mostly scum killing scum with no value lost, cut out suicide and old fashioned spousal homicide and you're not left with much when it comes to firearms deaths.
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Well dodge does have a higher death rate from accidents. The dodge viper has been described as being like having an axe murderer as a drinking buddy.

Let's ban less safe vehicles.
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>>679194774
I should've specified that that logic only works for personal freedoms, on the pro-side. There should be other things assumed constant, like that people should be protected from any law limiting their freedom. I see what you mean, though, that's a good point.
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>>679195202
That's just not a suppresor
.308
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>>679189896
Nice assault hand gun
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>>679195070
>Implying only republicans are pro-gun
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>>679194428
My grammar teacher always raged about this almost-sentence.
> A well regulated Militia,
Okay, we have a noun phrase that is the subject of a sentence.
> being necessary to the security of a free State,
Okay, we have an adjective phrase that describes the noun phrase.
> the right of the people to keep and bear Arms,
Okay, we have another noun phrase? Completely disconnected from the first.
> shall not be infringed.
And we have a verb phrase that could be a predicate... except it's attached to the second noun phrase, not to the subject.

THIS IS NOT A COMPLETE ENGLISH SENTENCE!
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>>679195202
7.62x54 nato

and that isnt a supressor
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>>679195198
>sup its the cop again
Civillians pay me that dude is just trying to inflict anal discomfort dont satisfy him.
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>>679190147
I hope you're European because if you are you'll be the last generation to walk the streets without fear of psychos, Angela Merkel has seen to that.
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>>679189045
the thing about cars is that they're not a right, you need a license, that license can be revoked, and the intended purpose is transportation and not killing things.
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http://www.torquenews.com/1081/dodge-ram-named-most-dangerous-vehicle-america


You have a point. That brand is awful.
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>>679195480
English was pretty different 300 years ago.
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>>679195359
I figured .308. Just asking questions here, man. Is it a flash suppressor?
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>>679195480
The constitution is filled with grammar errors. There were no actual rules established in the 18th century for punctuation. People just put in commas where ever they felt like it.
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>>679195276
Wah wah
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2015/01/29/iihs-driver-death-cars-top-10/22536459/
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>>679195502
You are correct, I don't have a right to the car. I do, however, have a constitutional right to the gun.
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No matter how civilized you convince yourself that the human race has/should become, the bottom line is that there are people and even animals running around that may someday have a desire to kill you.

As a living organism, you have the right to defend yourself from another organism that is trying to kill you.

It's unwise to give up the most useful tool for the purpose of defending yourself. And I for one actively refuse to do so.
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>>679194275
i like the way he's like
EVERY PLACE I WENT, WHITEHALL, HORSE GUARDS, WINSOR CASTLE, ALL 3 PLACES I WENT
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>>679194235
>this nigga trying to get tazed
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>>679191049
the figure is 36-41 million

thanks for showing us how stupid gun owners are

kill all gun owners
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>>679195498
>>679193677
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>>679195631
i think so
>>679195490
>54
>NATO
pick one
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>>679195057
negligible chance of causing damage on private property. guns not so much
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>>679195502
You're telling me that I need permission to travel? Umm, no. Just because government says it's a "privilege" doesn't make it so. My rights come from my status as a human being. And I have the right to do whatever I want that does not directly harm another person or their property.
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>>679194811
Because people are shit judges of risk and violently and irrationally emotional over things that don't deserve killing. I don't trust you to defend yourself any more than I trust you to diagnose and medicate yourself, or to file your taxes voluntarily without a government agency looking them over for accuracy.
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>>679195910
Why should we factor out suicides? There's currently a suicide crisis amongst American men and guns exacerbate the issue. If guns were less available more of those suicides would be attempts
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>>679195462
Either that or you are a shitty Democrat, because they will always vote party, which will always vote to ban guns regardless of the Constitution. If you are a libertarian you're a wasted vote just like the commie green guys.
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>>679195822
>kill all gun owners
Tell me more about how gun owners are violent, uncivilized psycopaths.
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>>679196051
Yet we trust humans to do these jobs for us?
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>>679196051
So just give them all to the cops and military? Yeah, they never have problems doing the right thing. That's sarcasm.
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>>679196163
nice bait
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>>679195502
I use mine for sports specifically range shooting. I don't believe hunting is necessarily humane. Although with the right ammo and good shot placement it can be. The problem is the world isn't filled with crack shots. 4 generations of my family have made marksman in the military, including my father who qualified during basic in the chair force. Ironically he was raised Jewish and has never hunted. He'd go to deer camp with my mother's family and get drunk then target shoot. It's pretty boring in the UP.
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>>679193677
Taxes. Youre in a shit tax branch and you will never be paid what its worth to do what you do. I only do it because i wanted to make a change in my local community and make it a little safer.
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>>679195995
> have the right to do whatever I want that does not directly harm another person or their property.

kek, where did you learn that?
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>>679195917
Contrary to what you seem to believe, you are also legally allowed to use guns on private property as long as you are 500 feet from your property line (or you have your neighbors permission)

Are you one of the people that think bullets travel thousands of miles to seek out small children?
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>>679194940
> I will fight to my last breath to survive, regardless of what a jury of my peers thinks about what I did.
Certainly. I agree 100%. It is better to go to prison for murder than to be murdered yourself. Sometimes you do the things you have to do to survive and accept the consequences because you have no better options available.
> Is literally saying that someone else knows when it is appropriate for you to live and when you should die.
Yes. I am literally saying that. When nigger pull guns on cops, they deserve to die. And cops have the training to make that determination. You do not.
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>>679189968
>software based on military
False.
>hundreds of words per minute
That's an amazingly high number. Fast typers can maybe do a single hundred.
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>>679194428
It's pretty clear the founding fathers wanted at least white farmers to
own guns.
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>>679195032
confirmed retard kek.

>>679195202
.308/7.62x51mm, and that's not a suppressor, it's a Steyr long flash hider.

Weapon pictured is my baby... Metric FAL of DSA manufacture. She's now wearing a M249 sling.
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>>679195822
What are we supposed to kill them with? THEY HAVE ALL THE GUNS
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>>679196145
If you look at the past 16 years Democrats in congress have been way more willing to vote against the party than Republicans. Just think about how much Bush was able to get done compared to Obama
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I'm a libertarian pro-gun. Problem is it doesn't matter as long as our political system is so utterly fucked.
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>>679196108
No they wouldn't. Humans are fragile. The problem is the suicide, not the instrument used.
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>>679196369
Because a civilian can not get the training? There is a state cop in my town who trains people on his off time, he is constantly booked
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>>679195612
I love this image, thank you for your response.
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>>679196145
I am a libertarian, I'm voting for Gary Johnson and my vote matters just as little as yours. Good o'l electoral college.
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>>679189045
except the op's pic is right, fat idiots who need fast cars cuz they are too insecure about their dick size to ride public transit or a bike kill pedestrians way too much
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>>679196527
Yes, they would. Compare to other countries. Guns = successful suicide at a much higher rate than other methods.
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>>679191945
If your not from the USA or any sort of eruopiss then your opinion doesn't matter nor should you have access to a computer in your shit 4th world country
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>>679195480
Maybe it was intended to be vague and open to interpretation. It's written in legalise. Not English
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>>679196108
And those men would be in the PRISON system....

Don't forget that in many jurisdictions, attempting suicide is a CRIME for some reason....
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>>679196427
The majority of people in america were farmers in the 1700's. Literally every nation's economy was based on agriculture back then.
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>>679196355
>seem to believe
it seems that way because you're retarded
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>>679196431
Thank you, gun/b/ro.

Making /b/ a magical place.
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>>679196431
faggot with phallic symbols
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>>679196274
That is true and very unfortunate. Our officers should be paid exponentially more than what they currently are. Not to sound like a cheesy faggot, but what you said was very heroic, and that's also why I want to join the police, to make the world a better place.
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>>679196108
Did you even read the whole thing? Korea has less guns more suicides. Unless this is your first week on /b/, you know that suicidal people have plenty of options. They will find a way.
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>>679196369
>When nigger pull guns on cops, they deserve to die. And cops have the training to make that determination. You do not.

How much training would YOU need to say "The nigger has a gun".
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>>679196690
>insecure about their dick size
the theme of this thread
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>>679195995
> You're telling me that I need permission to travel?
Yes, you do actually. I'm telling you this. The public highway system is not actually open to all comers. You must obey traffic regulations, and pass a test, and be licensed, in order to use it. That privilege can be taken from you if you abuse it. That's why you can be arrested for driving without a license. You can own all the cars you want, but you don't get to use the roads to drive on them without a license granting you permission to drive.
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>>679190871
You just sound paranoid.
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>>679196051
I did eight years as a Marine rifleman, never killed anybody but am pretty proficient with a gun. Meanwhile in the news there's the army guy, ex-FBI agent, who shot and killed his CO on base (commanding officer of course couldn't carry a gun on base because of people like you being scared of them), there was also a former cop in the news who molested a kid and tried to drink poison while being convicted. But you don't trust me with a gun?
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>>679196943
>i cant quit thinking about guys dicks
Fucking trap threads have gotten to ya, huh?
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>>679196369
Except my point is that self defense should never be considered murder. And I shouldn't have to be subject to what someone else thinks is "all i need" to protect myself.

If someone is going to kill you, you should not be punished for stopping them. My only other option if that nigger pulls the gun on me, is to wait 9 minutes for a cop if i can call one without getting shot. The system is wrong if that is what me, as a law abiding citizen, is subjected to.

Your statement presumes that criminals will always be able to be armed (they will, i'm not argueing that). And since I can't conceal carry a police officer, the laws have been designed to give the criminal an upper hand. That simply isn't right.
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>>679196422
So maybe the remington r-15 shouldn't be considered an assualt rifle then
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>>679197009
the reverse is also true. a cop who murders an innocent nigger (yes, i know not all are innocent) deserves to die
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>>679193431
Let me get this straight. In california I can't have a gun with a magazine capacity over 10 rounds, but what if I had one that used clips over 10 rounds?
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>>679189045
I'm liberal as fuck and I really don't understand why liberals are against guns. The most empowering thing a person can do is be responsible for their own safety, especially when the government has a standing army patrolling our streets disguised as a police force.
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>>679196164
> Yet we trust humans to do these jobs for us?
Yes, because they have had the aforementioned training, and are subject to regulation and oversight and testing that other humans are not. There is a difference between letting a doctor operate on someone and letting a hobo operate on someone. The same difference applies to police and cracked out niggers beefin over turf.
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>>679197264
>Only other option is to call the cops
You could also just give him your wallet and not risk your life over meaningless shit
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>>679197432
So you are saying a civilian could never get the same training as a police officer?
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>>679197000
When the only tool you have is a hammer every problem starts to look like a nail
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>>679197233
>i need to make a lot of noise and bullet holes to feel like a man
don't need to think about dicks/guns/trucks got a biggun right here
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>>679196717
Then we should ban anything sharp or poisoinous too. Those make suicide easy. Probably also cars, you can drive those off bridges.

Where do you draw the line of banning things that can be used to hurt/kill? If you are going to draw that line at an arbitrary point, why don't you do it before it infringes on my constitutional rights?
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>>679196943
I honestly cannot see anything phallic about a firearm.... In fact, if your dick is shaped like a firearm, you probably don't have much sex....

Either that, or you're just a cock-hungry faggot who sees cocks in everything they look at....

>pic related, phallic representation according to shitposter.
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>>679196355
Depends on local laws. I can't fire a gun on my property and I have a lot of it. Same with fireworks. If you want to shoot a gun here you need to go to the range and they went through a lot of paperwork. Now if I moved to the wilds of upper michigan I could do as you suggest. Or even if I just drove an hour and went out into the woods with the owners consent. On state property it gets complicated if it's not a hunting season.

Where I live I'd have to use a bb gun if I wanted to get rid of squirrels.
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>>679189045
Brah I'm a progressive liberal and I'm pro guns. I don't think it is a lib vs con, more like sheep and shepard.
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>>679197649
Its ok man, some guys cant quit thinking about dicks, hopefully your father isnt too sad about raising a queer
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