>>678929409
Yeah but SHE is pretty as fuck

>>678929409
does college = success, though?
does college = money?

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>he still lives at home

>>678929409
Eh. It's in her best interest anyway.

>>678929409
I'm currently NEET due to injury and i must say, im really enjoying myself. Back to the real world in a week though :/

>>678929892
Most people live in their homes, ya goof.

>>678929409
Most of the most innovative or successful people in every industry didn't, anon. It's no secret.

However, for everyone else, you'd better, because the fast food employment lines are long and full of degrees, so if you don't have one, you're fucked.

>>678930075
underrated post is underrated

>>678930075
That anon lives on the street.
He's keepin it REAH

>>678929409

So you sayin you wouldn't "educate" her?

>>678929889

In the eyes of society, yes.

As for money, major in something of value and/or go to grad school for something that is not basket weaving, yes.

Does not going to college=success or money? No. There are plenty of people who never finished and went on to start businesses. But that's the thing. They are the absolute minority and it takes a fuck load of work to do something like that. If you think you're just going to "wing" life and become rich without bothering with an education, you're an idiot.

There is a reason most people without a degree work menial wageslave jobs they hate and that is why there are so many people in their late 20's and even 30's who go to school with the idea of getting a degree so they can get a career they don't hate.

Note to people who are in their early 20's and hate college, just finish the degree.

If i'm not getting a degree in nursing or IT, am i wasting my time

>>678929889

No. The vast majority of people coming out of college are unemployable and attributing to the national debt with their student loans that they have no means or intention of ever paying back.

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>he doesn't carry a gun to protect me

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If a BS in Economics is good enough for him its good enough for me.

>>678930635

That's why you should go to school for something valuable, but if everyone did that, then the valuable fields would become even more over saturated and the degree would be pointless. In reality the only things worth pursuing are the following

4 year degrees:

Nursing
Engineering
Comp sci
Biochemistry
Forestry if you're interesting in working in nature and being a forest ranger
Physics/Math (if you're actually innovative and smart)

Everything else is worthless

If you're interested in going to school for more than 4 years

Medicine
Dentistry
Law (only if you get into a top school)
Clinical/Industrial psychology (only if you get a PhD)

Pretty much, American society needs dumb people to do shitty jobs. Sorry everybody. The whole do what you love and everything will be ok fantasy you were told when you were a child is bullshit.

>>678929409
>hfw you pull out your dick

>>678932854

Totally not true.

>>678932854
What is better? I think I could be a decent engineer (computer), but I think I would be better at computer science

>>678930612
Ye -nursefag

Do you think your moron ass is a better computer engineer than the 1 million Chinese and Indian assholes immigrating here?

>>678929409
joke's on you, i didn't even go to college ;^)

>>678933926

Probably engineering.

Comp Sci is getting over saturated. Don't base a decision like this on what someone on 4chan tells you though.

Didnt graduate college, i climb towers now, pulled just under 1200 buckaroos last week. Im not complaining and I dont have any debt

>>678932854
doesn't stop me from wanting to build a space ship to ascend to the moon and live here peacefully. That is untll supplies/oxygen/radiation damage/ aliens don't kill me first, but whatever

>>678934938
what is your major?

>>678934938
like what kind of engineering?

>>678935263
engineer didnt you fucking read retard

>>678934685
All the programming jobs are going to India, or to Indians on an H1B1 visa.

tons of horror stories from code monkeys out there.

>>678934938

Want my honest advice? Seriously consider medical or dental school.

Engineering is objectively one of the most difficult degrees with the heaviest course loads. Med schools and dental school know this. You have the sciences and maths probably. Take the MCAT, do well, and apply to some med school.

Once you're in, you've already basically gotten over the hardest part and you'll pretty much have a guaranteed job

>>678935370
Micro penis

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>>678935370
>>678935263
Environmental Engineering

>>678932854
>Forestry
Are you cereal?

>>678934685
I've been debating between comp eng and comp sci. I think comp eng is a more diverse field. I just don't like all of the engineering bullsht.

>>678935669

One of the best underrated majors.

>>678935406
http://aecom.jobs/los-angeles-ca/entry-level-environmental-engineer/760040588BE04A95AF1BB4B6A4B2CCEC/job/?utm_source=Indeed&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=Indeed&sid=364&codes=IN-IND

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>>678935416
I'm already 30 and buried in debt.

I don't know if I can take another 4 years of school.

>>678935533
http://www.indeed.com/viewjob?jk=0416e3829b1ab77f&q=Environmental+Engineering&l=CA&tk=1ag4cp8p2bqq6bd5&from=web

>>678932076
You forgot the loan of a million dollars.

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>he says "it's a trilby not a fedora"

>>678935263
B.S in engineering

>>678935533
https://career4.successfactors.com/career?company=KleinfelderP&career_ns=job_listing&navBarLevel=JOB_SEARCH&career_job_req_id=38545&jobPipeline=Indeed

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>>678935533
>Environmental
kek, thats your problem

>>678935533
I'm guessing you had 0 internships, or your internships had 0 correlation to your major

>>678936257
look under geological/ they go hand in hand most positions

>>678932854
>nursing
Yay I'm not a complete failure.>>678932854

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>>678935951
>http://www.indeed.com/viewjob?jk=0416e3829b1ab77f&q=Environmental+Engineering&l=CA&tk=1ag4cp8p2bqq6bd5&from=web

>The preferred candidate will have up to three years of experience in the environmental consulting field and have an advanced degree (M.S. or Ph.D.) in earth science (geology or hydrogeology), mechanical engineering, civil engineering, or environmental engineering.

I've applied to 30 or 40 of these. They don't respond.

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>>678929409
>he's in debt 6 figures paying student loans making less then 50k a year, not even with a mortgage totaled in

>>678936469
I wonder how many others they dont respond to faggot. Do it over and over until they respond with s

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>>678936469
need to cut and paste your resume from their job posting, seriously, or you wont get an interview, they use computer programs to look for the best canidates vs their job description

>>678935533
>Environmental Engineering
you fucked up, your best best is becoming a teacher or a government job lying to everybody about your research

>>678935416

lol. Engineers didn't make the top of their pre req classes. Those all became dentists and doctors.

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>>678934938
If you don't think me a total faggot, I'm in the same boat as you with a useless Political Science degree. I wanted to maneuver this into a government job, which I can do, but they all start at 30k I can get a job making more as a secretary for dental office.

I served 2 years in the peace corps, come back home and spend months applying for shit jobs. This is a joke. I'm going to teach abroad and look for something to make a decent career. At 31 years old, though, I don't know what that is.

>>678935416
Can I take the MCAT with a poli sci degree? I need options. Someone, some counselor somewhere, should have told me that my degree was a fucking joke.

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>he graduated murrikan college

>>678936257
It was supposed to be one of the fastest growing fields.
http://money.cnn.com/pf/best-jobs/2012/snapshots/20.html

>>678935491
sorry, donald.
try building your way out of it.

>>678936846
Yes you can take the MCAT with ANY degree, but do you have down the prerequisites courses needed to take it? You had to take 'X' and 'Y' classes during your undergraduate years as requirements for thr MCAT

Honestly, and this is going to sound gay as fuck. But just get a BS in nursing. Yes nursing, you are almost guaranteed to make over $100,000 a year. $80,000 the first couple years. And you work with some of the smartest people you will ever meet and if you are a dude you will be surrounded by hot ass female nurses all day everyday.

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>>678936777
>lying to everybody about your research

>>678936846
(In the U.S at least)

It doesn't matter what degree you have going into med school - As long as you take the required classes (Bio, Biochem, labs, etc), and do well on the MCAT.

>>678936846

>Can I take the MCAT with a poli sci degree

Absolutely you can. There are many people from fields non science oriented that get into med school and finish it. I know of a bunch of people who got into med schools with degrees in philosophy, psychology and music.


If anything coming from a non science background makes your application look interesting and stand out.

That being said, if you're in the USA you will probably need to have the science pre requisites, but some schools in Canada have scratched them (UBC, McMaster, Queens, and many others actually).

Also if you're in Canada McMaster does not require the science section of the MCAT.

>>678934938
That fucking file name

>>678929409
>Nigger

>>678929409
As if I couldn't learn it all through the Internet. Information highway bitch. College is a daycare for kids who arnt self motivated. Prove me wrong. Faggots

>>678934938

>Studies engineering at ITTech
>Expects to be competitive in the field

Maybe take your studies more seriously and go to a good school.

>>678937170
>you will be surrounded by hot ass female nurses all day everyday.

Who are all gunning for physicians.

>>678932854

>he listens to the spoonfed media bullshit about "STEM degrees being valuable"

You list nursing.

The unemployment rate for nursing grads 18 months after graduation is 43%

>>678937170
This is it. I'm taking prerequiste classes for my compsci degree, but I'll probably just transfer to my state school to do nursing...

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This is reductive but true and that's coming from someone working in public policy so I know I fucked up

>>678937170
Also, median RN pay is $65k.

>>678932854
But I do do what I like and I am having a good time. Not everyone asks for a lot jackass

>>678937050
>>678937050
>I trusted the mainstream memes
but for what purpose? anytime the MM is telling you "the next big thing" then you are already to late, like that mad money cramer guy dont ever listen to that fag he was telling people to buy before and during the 2008 market crash
>>678937211
he posted a pic of al gore, dont even pretend envoronmental engineers are useful, the only people that give a fuck about them are losers without an engineering degree and other envirofags

every business just wants them to stamp/approve the cheapest option to clean shit up and dont give a fuck what would "please the local habitat"

>>678937052
We have the technology

>>678937100
All I ever took was the general bullshit that you needed/that everyone did. Could I take those courses at any old community college? I tried taking the good-transferable courses at UCLA when I was there, but those fuckers told me that I couldn't change my major and that I couldn't take certain classes no matter what. Being a poor transfer student fucks you so hard. 300 people in all my classes but the weird, useless shit like Chinese Religion.

>>678937416
Yes of course but not all bro not all. One of my best friends has been a nurse for years and his stories are legendary not to mention I've seen it first-hand. It's like bobbing for apples

>>678937588
No clue about that one, maybe another anon can chime in if they're familiar with the process

>>678936846
Peace corps? Poly sci? Actual faggot.

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>>678936846
I'd be happy to get a job at 30k and start getting experience. Secretary work is a dead end. You could build a gov job into a career.

>>678937498
Go maritime. Captain earns 100k+ per year to drive boats and shit

>>678937278
>>678937255

see
>>678937588

>>678937543
Yeah sorry, not in California,, not by a long shot.

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>>678937559
>dont even pretend envoronmental engineers are useful

lol...

having fun kid?

>>678937588

If you're in the USA you will need to take those classes and I think most of them can be taken at any old community college but you will have to double check that. Alternatively if you're in Canada you could try studying for the MCAT without taking the courses. However this would require buying study materials, possibly taking an MCAT prep course and getting a good tutor to help you with the more challenging aspects of it.

>>678934938
I know this feel bro. I graduated with a BSME over a year ago, after applying to jobs daily, I got ONE interview. They called me back the same day and said I got the job. That was four months ago and I'm still not working because this company is dicking me around and keep pushing back my start date.

>>678937170

See:
>>678937442

Nursing operates under the "why pay two people to work 40 hours a week when we can pay one person the same rate and tell them they have to work 80 hours a week"

It's because nursing is almost entirely women and women never fight for themselves in the workplace.

>>678937317
I went to a California State school.

I'm not expecting to walk into an engineering position, but surely even my sub-par education qualifies me for a technician position.

>>678937278

This

While pre-med undergrad is clearly superior to pre-law or Business/pre-MBA you can still prepare for the MCAT and do well in med school without it.

>>678932854
also learn to intern/work to get experience in your field and not just think your degree is all you need

>Getting a 2-year AS in Civil Engineering/Surveying
>Already finished my 2-year AA Gen Ed
>Have one year left to finish
>Then get qualified to take testing for certification
>Best friend since high school taking classes with me took over as CEO of his dad's drafting company since he retired
>don't need an internship
>dont need a 4-year BS for shit
>already doing work to help him take some load off of him
>UCF cucks telling me I need the 4-year BS
>meanwhile they're taking Calc 4 as per UCF requirements even though you only use trig and applied physics
>they dont even offer Surverying which you REALLY need to know if youre gonna be a CE
>Im laughing in my chair as I get paid to draw shit all day and maybe go out and watch construction build shit my friend drew up a year ago
Dont let UCF cuck your money

>>678937314
your right but major careers still want to see BS at the leas by your name. just go to an online accelerate 2 years program for a BS in accounting or something
>>678937442
>The unemployment rate for nursing grads 18 months after graduation is 43%
source, maybe for dumb ass ghetto nurses with and "vocational" certificate, lvn.
an ADN-RN or BSN are legit and if you go ADN_RN you can get your job to pay for your BS
>>678937679
nurses are usually fishing for something better and act as if dr's are hercules or something but yeah, i assume the politics is harsh on the murses though
>>678937981
are you in remediation? then yeah bug bucks but even then everyone that does business with you wants the bare bones legal cleanup job done and doesnt give a fuck about your migrating particle theory

green energy is a comlplete scam anon it wont be viable for centuries
even the biggest solar project in the world out in utah funded by google and the obama has to burn natural gas bc the solar sucks so fucking much

>>678937314
I agree that you could learn it all yourself, but learning isn't all it's about. A degree is a certification that you learned, and that certification is very valuable.

>>678937813

Fucked enough girls from enough countries that I doubt I could remember them all in a few minutes to consider. I also speak 4 languages thanks to all the travel. So I know I'm better than the average cuck and probably better than some faggot calling me a faggot.

>>678938262
Isn't nursing just modern day back breaking slavery for an above average wage? I guess it depends on the field but it seems like shit tbh

>>678938563
hey I go to UCF...

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>>678938154
That's brutal man. I would have gone mech, but the school I went to didnt have a mech program.

I hope you get started soon.

I'm trying to move back to my homestate where the economy is a little better, but it's hard to save up making peanuts and paying back loans.

mfw all those people who make an engineering degree sound like a golden ticket.

>>678929409
You'll still rot away and be forgotten like everyone else.

>>678938695
wrong. a degree is the certification that you forked over insane amounts of money for their signed piece of paper. i know people that graduated college with good grades and i don't even know how they remember to breath they're so dumb.

>>678929675
are you retarded?
that her expresion when she hear
>he didn't graduate college

I graduate in one year, but my classes are pretty large and its hard not to just look around the room and think "we are so fucked". I am double majoring just to try and set myself apart from the other 100 people I will be applying against and I know its still not going to help.

Debating PhD

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>>678930635
spot the /biz/ guys

>>678937498
Learned Anon - where do Women's Studies and Feminist Interpretive Dance graduates land on that scale?

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>>678938680
The program I went to was focused on water: waste water treament/management, storm water management, river restoration, and water resource management.

http://catalog.unt.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=3&poid=554&returnto=162

should i go for this degree? ABET accredited through the school of engineering

>>678939251

Fuck that shit I thought /biz/ was actually insightful but if it is to business what /pol/ is to legitimate political discussion then I'm never going there,

>>678939188
also: MBA's suck.

>>678938790
Yeah man I was so happy and relieved when I got that call only hours after leaving the interview, and here I am four months later. I know a few people that had to deal with similar shit and it worked out fine for them but I just really want to start working and making some real money.

Engineering is only a golden ticket if you work your ass off in addition to the required amount just to get through the degree. But that true with many things.

I've been wanting to open my own bar in a town of 60k people. Our downtown has a few vacant buildings and the nightlife is a little bit decent on weekends and especially for our annual festival. I think Im gonna do it

>>678929892
yeah, those filthy casuals dont know what are loosing living in a tent

>>678930612
Yeah
Unless it's engineering.

Pretty much those are your only options for a guaranteed decent job. All the others are a dime a dozen

>>678938680

http://money.cnn.com/2013/01/14/news/economy/nursing-jobs-new-grads/

>Registered nurses fresh out of school are coming across thousands of job postings with an impossible requirement: "no new grads."

>A survey by the National Student Nurse's Association showed 36% of newly licensed RNs graduating in 2011 were not working as registered nurses four months after graduation.

>In California, the problem looks even worse. About 43% of newly licensed RNs there still did not have jobs within 18 months after graduation, according to a separate 2011 survey conducted by the California Institute for Nursing & Health Care.

>"The process has become more and more discouraging, especially since hospitals want RNs with experience, yet nobody is willing to give us this experience," said Ronak Soliemannjad, 26, an RN in San Jose, Calif., who has been searching for a nursing job since she graduated in June.

>"It is a tough market for a new grad RN. A 'year experience required' or 'not considering new grads at this time' is pretty much the norm," wrote one.

>>678929889

if you spent more than 10 minutes picking your degree then yes it does make you a lot more money than if you didn't go. there are a lot of careers you can't get into without a degree/diploma which can make you good money

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>>678940006
>guaranteed decent job

>>678930612
How legit is a IT degree? any IT fags here?
Im looking at a bachelors in IT through an ABET accredited program. Am i cucking myself

>>678939314

Kek great question!

Women's/Feminist/Gender Studies: At the lowest end of the line labeled "Humanities and liberal arts" and "Communications and journalism" (~$40).

Dance Theory: The slightly less than the median of "Arts" (~$42)

Feminism is lower because the women that aren't brain-dead combine it with a degree that has actual transferable skills or just say fuck it and starve as a blogger.

>>678932854
>literally have BA in Art History
>currently head of IT at medium-sized business
>have had career managing people with STEM degrees

If you think a degree is all that counts to an employer, you are setting yourself up to be easily replaced by anybody with a STEM degree.

>>678940254
computer science?

>>678939188
Major?

I graduate next year faggit

https://soundcloud.com/couchtruthing/im-so-high

>>678933915
you're in denial

>>678932854
this guy is right. /thread

>>678940075
find a job in california is hard?

>whossuprised.jpeg

>>678940075

2011 was 5 years ago

>>678940397
sounds like my in law. Manager of an IT department at PG&E making 190k

>>678940431
no a bachelors degree in information technology

>>678940462
Finance and Real Estate

>>678939442
>The program I went to was focused on water: waste water treament/management, storm water management, river restoration, and water resource management.
right on then, i took the al gore pic to seriously then my bad. you find a jorb yet?
>>678939447
i dunno m8 every single pajeet on the planet is trying to get into the US on a IT degree, and you can talk shit into a IT job without a degree if you know your stuff, you might want to ask /g/ tbh
>>678939699
>Engineering is only a golden ticket if you work your ass off in addition to the required amount just to get through the degree. But that true with many things.
I have fam friends that do hiring for their respective departments and they have said on more then 1 occassion that they dont even pay attention to anyone that has beloow 3.2 cumulative bc there are so many prospects they never have to step down
>>678940075
>http://money.cnn.com/2013/01/14/news/economy/nursing-jobs-new-grads/
fugg, well just dont be on the bottom tier then I guess. also that bitch in the article worked at an old folks home, that is a joke more so than general floor nurses at a hospital, gotta go ICU, OR/ER at the least

>>678940706
....go with computer science

>>678940706
lol, enjoy replacing keyboards for a living and making a max of 60k during your shitty life time.

>>678940742
a phd is finance is impressive and kind of a dick measuring effort but would look good if you are top tier gpa, speak to employers first, they could even pay for it

>>678940831
yeah but what if i dont want to sit at a computer and write code all day every day for the rest of my life

also im not sure if im smart enough for a CS degree, the classes look pretty heavy

>>678940981
>yeah but what if i dont want to sit at a computer and write code all day every day for the rest of my life
then absolutely dont major in CS nor IT cert.

>>678940981

be a server admin or IT manager? not all jobs are sitting at a desk writing code. there's also project management side as well.

>>678929889
It honestly depends on where you live. If you live somewhere where there is major oil or mining industries you can make a lot of money with a highschool education or lower.

Also, trades like plumbing, welding, electrician etc

>>678940981

Info-Tech is a field for secretaries tbh and even Info-Sci gets the reputation for being the women's school for disabled engineers.

>>678940966
talking to one of my professors today who just finished his PhD and the university paid for it, he just had to be a TA/GTA and a research assist for a professor who needed alot of data crunching.

Will def need to look into it, BS nowadays feels like a high school diploma compared to when my parents graduated college

>>678941068
nigger how are IT jobs involved with writing code

>>678941205
yeah then why the fuck would i major in CS for that when i could major in IT

>>678940981
this is why I dropped Comp Engineering

>>678940587

It was a 2013 article. Surveys don't just whisk into existence instantaneously.

The point is that the placement rate is surprisingly low for a job that the media constantly serves up as a "good degree."

It's not a bad degree, though. More health services will be needed in the future. But the country desperately needs both health care reform and policy reform for how salary exempt employees are managed. Both get in the way of nursing being a surefire option.

>>678940254
i make 60k a year with an associates in comp sci.
i got a job in the kitchen of a big ass corporation three years ago and they paid for me to get my degree.
come graduation time i put in one application, got one interview, and got the job.
full benefits, paid time off, and they keep paying for school.
i dont do anything related to comp sci, but it pays

Shit. I'm a forman at a large construction company making about $1000 a week salary. Never went to college. Have too much money, only thing to do was buy a house. So no. You don't need school. Only motivation to live you stupid life

>>678930254
this meme that you can't even get a job at a fast food place/other low-mid tier job without a degree is stupid as fuck. i've literally never known anyone who has had an issue finding work without a college degree (unless they have some kind of other issue that makes them unhireable).

i make a perfectly decent living off of $13/hour as a security guard. i'm not rich or anything but i have no problems paying my fucking bills and i had no problem getting the job without a college degree or any qualifications.

if you want to be successful, yeah, go to college because chances are you aren't some super genius who will hit it big without a degree.

but you can totally live relatively comfortably without one.

internship interview with fiscal department of my local fire department in 8 hours. fucking pray for me.

>>678941273
i figured you meant "being on the computer all day' as fucking around with screens and shit like that in general, it doesnt require much code, ask /g/ bc i really dont know that much about it other then friends experiences
the ones who are self taught are better bc they had the interest prior to the education

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>>678940815
>you find a jorb yet?

nope. Its brutal out there.
I scored an interview for a sewer inspector position I really wanted, and a phone interview for an internship doing government policy that I didn't really want. Other than that, it's been crickets.

I got a 3.5 GPA, but I wasn't able to land any internships in school.

Now I cant even get an interview for an internship.

>>678941551

people with jobs don't have as much time to bitch online as unemployed/students do

>>678941654
no i dont mind being on a computer all day, i mean what the fuck am i doing right now. Maybe i should just go for comp sci, my dad works for raytheon and pretty much can lock me in to an internship if i major in a engineering/comp sci field

>>678929409
Software developer here making $60k/year at 21 years old (midwest) with only $13k in student loans since I only went for like 2 years.
Degrees are for plebs

>>678942033
thatd be sick as fuck...all the engineers cum their panties when the defense companies come through

>>678942175
yeah dude i just need to stop being lazy, its a paid internship he said it would be about 20-25 dollars an hour with a good chance of a job offer as long as i dont go full retard. Honestly id be an idiot to not do it.

>>678941880
I applied to 18 jobs today, 9 original ones and the other 9 in the same field. For example, starbucks had 8 separate applications because of the 4 different shops. Here's my list:

Where I have applied locally:
Raleys
Target
Sutter Health
Safeway
Autozone
Michaels
Childtime
Petco
Shell
TJ Maxx
Barista/Cashier/Drink Makers
River City Bank
Whole Foods
Wells Fargo
Winco Foods
US Bank
Toys R' Us/Babies R' Us
FedEDX
Starbucks
International Paper
Umpqua Bank
Lowes
24 hour fitness
Ross

>>678942033
you'd be an absolute retard for not taking advantage of that opportuinity

>>678941755
>I got a 3.5 GPA, but I wasn't able to land any internships in school.
holy fuck that is rough

>>678942033
>my dad works for raytheon and pretty much can lock me in to an internship if i major in a engineering/comp sci field
dude fuck yes why didnt you think of this before? unless you are really adverse to the idea id say go for it, if you do that for a few years after you graduate,even while in uni and finish it out you could work whereever afterwards. try it out i say

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>>678942033
>my dad works for raytheon and pretty much can lock me in to an internship if i major in a engineering/comp sci field

tfw no bro-dad to get you a sweet internship

>>678929409
dropped out of college
make 60k/yr starting out
mostly play on my phone @ work

>>678942355
Forgot to add; I haven't heard shit from any of them. I feel sooooooo fucked.

>>678942389
i could also land a internship if i went finance/accounting but id rather not be a money jew cuck. i need to start learning code now just to see if i can even grasp the concept

>>678942355
okay so you will probably get callbacks from a few of the jobs you listed.

if not, you probably have some issue that has nothing to do with not having a degree that is causing those companies to not want to hire you and you know what that issue is but would rather act like you're being victimized than admit that you fucked up.

>>678942562
>>678942541

damn if yall niggers live in texas i could hook you up.

i have that white male bro-dad intern privledge on deck hmu

>>678934938
I have a degree from Berkeley and I'm also struggling. Gay!

>>678942355
>>678942650
you have to follow up on applications dipship.
if you dont hear back in 3-5 business days, call them!

learn to grow the fuck up.

>source: i work in HR and do interviews/job offers for the company i work for

>>678942752
I'm the guy who graduated with the Poli Sci degree in this thread. I have many years of work experience, 2 years in the Peace Corps and speak a bunch of languages.

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why do you guys fret about going to college when you could go to the library?

pic related is me, out here on the holywood hills, all i did was read books
sign up for my mentor program

>>678942924
/thread

>>678942675
uhh you sound kind of immature to be honest. finance isn't just for "jew cucks". i mean yeah it's a funny 4chan meme but if you have an opportunity to get into the field then it's probably kind of dumb to base your decision not to off of internet jokes.

but yeah man definitely take advantage of the opportunities you have. most people have zero connections going into a field.

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>>678932854
ermmm... what about statistics, economics, data science, etc. Or even accounting??

you seriously left out pretty much all of the white collar drones who make decent money

>>678935533
>Environmental Engineering

Fucking kek

>>678942800
H-town sizzurp reporting. i just dropped from my chem/calc classes bc im lazy, im going nursing and will later get a NP(nurse practitioner) in hopes of opening my own concierge medicine clinic

>>678943057
21 year old man child here, finance is for jew cucks, in fact you're probably a jew cuck yourself.

>>678932854
I would personally contend that training/certification in a trade that is actually valuable, profitable, and will be around in 10-20 years, coupled with a degree in business is a viable option.

Military fag here, my job right now is building and setting up satellites. I've heard success stories of guys who get out and work rayethon (or however ts spelled) but so far its not what really interestes me and I couldn't see myself doing it forever. I want to he a nurse but I've heard great sides of it. And absolute horror stories of it. Any advice before I hit the civilian world

>>678942829
So you do HR for shitty jobs like the ones I listed?

>>678943242
damn dallas here, used to live in Austin as well. good luck bro

>>678942870

Honestly at this point if age and prestige of degree are not getting you a job you have two problems.

1. You are a terrible interview (or not even getting interviews because of shitty cover letters and resume)

2. the job market sucks in your area

3. you need to go back to school for legitimate skills that employers want and you don't have.

>>678942870
okay, so why are you not getting hired? like i said, if someone like me who has zero qualifications, no degree, and no connections can get hired to low end jobs like the ones you posted about I find it hard to believe that someone with demonstrable work experience and a college degree can't.

you're either bullshitting about how many apps you've put out or you are unhireable for some reason you're not saying.

>>678943057
finance major here haha!

>>678943351
my dads worked for Raytheon for 30+ years now. Since he was 19, its a great company bro

unifag here, I am for sure going to major in French (going to France in the summer to study abroad, btw) anyways, should I double major in Nursing, since everyone is suggesting it?

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>>678942801
>Berkeley
fuck man
I hope you got someone else to pay for it

Nurse here..! You will not be surrounded by beautiful chicks..its mostly overweight cows and ugly married women. MDs are stupid as fuck, good MDs are rare..Pay is ok, but that ass will work hard for it..Me, I had a stroke due to a faggot aneurysm,..same kind that killed john ritter and probabaly me if i hadn't been a nurse..only thing postive is that you will know illness at a doctors level after few years of practicing nursing..

>>678943247
finance is basically guaranteed good job security and decent pay
it's also one of the easiest degrees to get in most colleges because the math isn't even that hard and there aren't as many required classes as say a business degree

>>678943348
what trades will be around in 20 years? serious question from a 26 year old looking to go back to school for anything that will make me a decent living.

>>678943057

The meme was probably created by David Duke and some manchildren that didn't get finance jobs because they hated networking.

>>678943476
i'm a college dropout in my mid 20s, actually.

i'm terrible at math. i'd suck as a finance major.

>>678943688
Anything medical, finance, tech related.

>>678936947
The USA has some of the best schools in the world, you limey cunt

>>678943472
Someone suggested I do call backs. I haven't done those yet and I used to when I was a kid.

Otherwise, I'm not bullshitting. Those are all the places I applied to and I interview like a baddass (I think). I have no social anxiety and I'm supremely confident without being arrogant unless it's for humor. I also dress well and clean up - not that it matters, because I haven't had any call backs.

I even fucking exercise daily and have a decent body. Sucks.

>>678943366
i do HR for one of the companies you listed, yes. I make about $35k a year, but once i get promoted to a leadership position (already passed my interviews) i'll start at $60k a year. goal is to be a district manager, which will be around $100k a year.

>>678943688
Robot repair.

Learn to program and/or solder.

>>678943688
hvac and electricians are in constant demand in medical marijuana states to build grow rooms. if you can keep your mouth shut you will make great money.

>>678936846
why can't you work in public policy / as a researcher for policy analysis?? Or elections are coming up, try to get a campaign / field organizing position. you should've have at least taken econometrics / survey methodology crap in school, so you can pretend to know data analysis.

also, pro-tip: you won't be given a bad ass job to begin with. you usually ahve to take some crappy pay jobs that you can make sound like they're ten times better on your resume, and then apply for better jobs.

also, try professional resume editors and cover letter writers adn stuff

>>678943057
to be succesful in finance and make it on your own, you have to be able to play musical chairs and convince others to do the same, some people dont want to do that/cant spit game like that
>>678943406
hasnt everyone lived in austin at one point? kek, i burnout over there and had to move, i specifically remember one time i was late to class bc i got stuck behind a unicycle, it is some other level shit over there

anwyay thanks mang you too and knock out a semester with really good grades and ask your dad "what kind of internships would look good, im interested in __" and he might be more ready to hook it up rather then "im changing majors can you get me a job"

I want to see memes painted on rockets in 10 years anon, you can do it

>>678943676
is it on par with an accounting degree? or is it more easy?

>>678931524
>at least I'm safe at Applebee's

>>678943878
what kind of 2 year certifications in the finance or tech field would be good choices? i'd like to just go to trade school instead of getting a bachelor's and i don't want to be out of work 20 years from now. plus i've worked in the medical field and i hate it so that's a no go.

not looking to get rich. just want a decent lower middle class income where i can own a small house and raise some kids.

>>678943968
So call backs are what I need to do? I'll do that for every one of those fucking things from the moment I wake up tomorrow and see if anything comes of it. Thanks for the advice.

>>678943676
this guy is spewing more shit out of his mouth than i am out of my ass right now

spoiler: im taking a shit

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>>678929892
Those fucking plebs.

I just want to grow a beard and sit doing fucking research.
Is trying to get a PHD in psychology this bad of an idea? Till I was 27 I had to be a carer.
Now I get free college (four years at most) in Ireland.

>>678943598
pls respand

>>678943905
i just don't believe that someone with work experience would get zero callbacks from so many companies unless they are unemployable.

>>678944036
ironically i had a bad drug habit and moved to austin to get clean.

3 years sober almost lol

but fuck it looks like i need to go finance/accounting or engineering/compsci and just ride daddys coat-tail

Business degree working at Faggot HEB,..making $95k..funny thing is that we hire Mexicans with Bachelors degrees from Mexico over Americans that graduate here in Texas ..lol suckers!

>>678943688
>>678943993
Off the top of.my head I was going to say this exact thing, maintenance will always be needed, and most places (commercial, factories, etc) prefer any maintenance staff to have certification in HVAC, electricity these days. Computers are taking.g over, but I think it will still be a while before the computers are all fixing each other.

>>678944030
That's some good advice about the resume building and coverletter stuff. I just copied the blueprint they gave us once I got out of the Peace Corps. The cover letter shit I've just been half assing with rewording my Description of Service and basically copying the methodology from sample cover letters to similar positions. For example, I google sample letters for admin stuff, pick what I think looks good and fill in the blanks with what I do know and try to make it sound good without sounding awful.

Appreciate the response.

>>678944366
yes, if you only major in french you'll be a High school french teacher.

or you could go live in france and be a nurse and bang sluts.

your choice m8

>>678944620
HEB is the shit mane

>>678935943
Did you look into possible jobs before you picked your major? Or did you fall into the "all i need is a degree to get a job" trap

>>678944461
Well fuck, here I am. Trying to get a job, not doing drugs or drinking and I exercise and read the news and books and apply to jobs all day that are near me with no call backs. That's how it is here in northern California I guess.

>>678944621
Computers and the machines they are running that is.

>>678944620
I haven't been in an HEB since I lived down in the Valley

i'm in my mid 20s with no degree.

should i even bother going back to school? no company is going to hire someone to an entry level position at 30 years old right? and i won't have time to network or intern or any of that shit that you're supposed to do in college because i already work full time.

am i fucked /b/? or did anyone here go back to school later and make it out alright?

>>678943598
>I am for sure going to major in French
are you going to be an interpreter? or professor?
interpreters can make legit money IF your good and can get in on a international company or private firm
>>678943638
>Nurse here..! You will not be surrounded by beautiful chicks..its mostly overweight cows and ugly married women. MDs are stupid as fuck, good MDs are rare..Pay is ok, but that ass will work hard for it..Me, I had a stroke due to a faggot aneurysm,..same kind that killed john ritter and probabaly me if i hadn't been a nurse..only thing postive is that you will know illness at a doctors level after few years of practicing nursing..
this is exactly what I was expecting tbh, as well as "THATS NOT A BRUISE IS A FUCKING CONTUSION IM GOING TO DIE! ! "
i hope i dont turn into a hypochondriac

are you BSN or ADN RN? and do you think it really effects desirability for hireing?
>>678943688
plumbing, carpentry
>>678943968
maybe you could help me out. have you ever ran across someone that lied about their GPA and just started over at a new university and did well from there?
I messed up a whole year of school and wondering if i can apply to a new uni as a freshmen and just say i was working the whole time and start over
>>678944537
>ironically i had a bad drug habit and moved to austin to get clean.
>3 years sober almost lol
nice m8, keep it up
>but fuck it looks like i need to go finance/accounting or engineering/compsci and just ride daddys coat-tail
get it done son, dont even think thats a bad thing either people go to school FOR THE CHANCE TO NETWORK A PROSPECT so you arent cheating or anything
>>678944620
>funny thing is that we hire Mexicans with Bachelors degrees from Mexico over Americans that graduate here in Texas ..lol suckers!
wtf I love HEB but thats not cool, next your at work go to the produce and look at where it comes from, they say the food is from "Mexico,USA"

>>678945161
You can make friends in classrooms m8

>>678944946
ahhh that's probably the problem. i live in ohio. come to the midwest man. everyone's expectations are lowered here. with a polisci degree you could probably become a teacher no problem.

>>678945161
I'm the 31 year old Poli Sci grad that can't get a job at a grocery store. I started college at 25 and immediately did peace corps after to bolster my application. Still fucked.

>>678945161
tbh man as a 21 year old freshmen i feel like this is the best time to go to school, i worked full time for 3 years got my own place and learned how to grow up and be responsible. Instead of binge drinking at school i do my work and make good grades because im in school because i want to succeed not because my mom and dad said i should do it.

>>678944882
Yeah man.
Everywhere I looked showed huge job growth, and a shortage of environmental engineers.

>>678943627
The school did. Full scholarship.

Yes we are..this year we hired over 30 new position at our headquarters in San Antonio, all given to Mexican Nationals with Mexican degrees, fuck white assholes who graduate at UTSA! and by the way keep buying our shit too!!

>>678945296
Yeah, that's what I was thinking about doing. I taught kids in the Peace Corps and enjoyed the shit out of it. But I have no money to go to school, no money to move, no money to do much. I need a shitty job to save up. Hopefully doing call backs will help.

>>678929409
Ha..dropped out of high school at 17 to join the military, Still no degree but have tons of experience. Now I am making 103k a year. Own a house that I bought for 225k and would go to market at around 750k. Own a Caddy, Dodge Ram and a motorcycle.

>>678945416
i mean there's kind of a big difference between 21 and 25. you'll be my age now by the time you graduate. if i start this fall i'll probably be about 30-31 by the time i graduate.

plus i mean yeah i know i'll crush the classes now that i'm older and mature. i'm not worried about obtaining a degree. it's the fact that i'll be old as fuck compared to people with similar qualifications by the time i have the degree.

>>678932076
He went Wharton. Not quite the same as your community college degree.

>>678944663
I havent tried this but I have heard you can put phrases like
>MD
>top of the class
>eligible
>competent
and stuff like that in white ink on white paper so when you print it no one can see it but when you email the resume to the places the OCR that HR uses will flag your resume first presumably bc it recognized the words it was looking for
>>678945585
>all given to Mexican Nationals with Mexican degrees, fuck white assholes who graduate at UTSA! and by the way keep buying our shit too!!
REEEEEE

>>678945695
yeah i hear you bro, your age might be seen as a perk but im not sure. like if i was a 40 somthing year old working at a company looking at hiring someone id feel really skeptical about hiring a 22 year old fresh grad because they might be immature

>>678934938
>tfw NEET.
>No debt.
>100% freedom.
>Not welcome in school.
Everything went better than expected, no one seems to get hired these days even when they have good education.

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>>678945674
>But I have no money to go to school, no money to move, no money to do much. I need a shitty job to save up.

That's what I've been doing. Working at Kmart for almost a year trying to save up enough to move.

>>678945983
>>678945695
i would agree, but i dont own a business so cant confirm, but it seems like no one takes you seriously until your 30 anyway

>>678943351
sometimes you just have to take a blah job that pays bank. and then use that money to pursue hobbies or invest in rental properties, etc.

>>678946090
Think you'll make it?

>>678942033
>i dont mind being on a computer all day
That's a major oversimplification. Have you ever tried to code? Most people hate it.

>>678929889
College = bigger chance for money not necessarily success

A lot of people are lazy slobs and won't do shit if they if their life doesn't depend on it - Ofc. exceptions exist, but there's so many who just accept they have to put effort into it and then wont do it.

>>678946317
you're totally right dude, i should give it a whirl i just have no clue where to start.

Drive right and don't get any tickets and especially no DUIs. Live with parents and work saving all the money you can. At 21 get CDL A with hazmat, tanker, doubles, triples and passenger endorsements. Go to work for reputable trucking company. Keep your shit stowed at parents house free of charge. Bank everything you can. Pay cash for house at 26. Move into smallest bedroom and rent out other rooms. Bank more money. Buy truck and start your own trucking company. Buy more trucks and hire more drivers. Be semi retired by 40.

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If you don't escape and live in the woods you're a faggot.

>>678946317
If you want to find out quick, if it's for you. >Install linux
>Learn c++

>>678946495
sound bad ass but trucking seems spooki when self driving vehicles have so much money/big tech companies behind the idea

>>678946418
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>>678946281
I dunno. I'm able to save $100-$200 a month, but car problems or getting sick could wipe that out my savings.

And the juice on my student loans in running all the time, so I'm actually going negative each month even though I'm "saving money".

The cake was a lie.

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>>678946090

I went through this interview thing for teaching abroad in Japan. I wanted to learn that language too, so I figured why not go out and live. I like teaching kids and adults, moreso kids because they respect you and stfu, but maybe everyone in Japan will be like that - ideal student. Problem is, I would have to leave in 4 months time from now and need to save 3k to pay for the flight + rent and food.

That's my plan anyway. And while I'm over there, I plan to study like a motherfucker and apply to work in the Foreign Service. We'll see how it goes. Some anon's gave me the idea of working toward doing the MCAT. If I can take the necessary classes at any old community college, I might seriously make a play at it and study that over in Japan too.

Good luck to us both, anon sempai.

>>678937679
I've slept with a lot of nurses and one awesome thing is that they all eat butt. I've gotten my butthole licked by more nurses during blowjobs than I can probably remember.

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>>678932854
You're so fucking stupid is incredible.

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>>678947127
best of luck you weeb

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>>678945695
>it's the fact that i'll be old as fuck compared to people with similar qualification

lol nigga you even been on a college campus? There are old fucks everywhere. I took classes at a community college my freshman year and there was a lady who was 55 years old.

I think your future boss will even respect you more because you went back to school to have a better life. I'm sure he/she knows how difficult that must be. yet you do it.

don't worry bro
we're all gonna make it.

call me 61435272645
i graduated tswifts poon

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>>678933915
Found the liberal