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how stupid is /b/?
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8, now stfu
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>>678773769
8
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Millions, it's made of woven fibers.
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>>678773441
its 6
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>>678773991
Or, 0. It's made of pixels.
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>>678773441
8
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>>678773441

Depends on your definition of a hole. But based on what I think the average reasonable person would define as a hole, and assuming the image is of a reasonably expected standard shirt, and assuming it is not oddly stretched out somewhere, my answer is: "at least 7".
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>>678773441
could be 7 or 8 depending if there's one or two holes in the back.
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>>678773441
8
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>>678773974
>>678773769
how do you know that there isn't one large hole that allows you to see completely through the 2 holes on the front of the shirt?
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6 if the ones on the front continue to the other side
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>>678773441
The letters in "This Shirt" do not have holes.

otherwise it's 8
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>>678774367
sleeves faggot
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>>678773441
4
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8
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>>678773441
0. It's a 2d image and therefor not a shirt.

Checkmate.
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>>678773441
7
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none
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>>678773441
You can't really tell, so anything above 7 could be correct.
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0, None of the letters in this shirt have a hole
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>>678774600
>>678774606
winners
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>>678773441
>>678774110
Ceci n'es pas un shirt
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any space between the threads of the shirt could be considered holes. So,...3,000,000,000
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>>678773441
3
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>>678774600
>>678774717
>>678774606
>>678773991
any answer besides answer like these are dumb
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>>678774362
because those holes look like they were made from shotgun blasts. so it has to be from two different shots. THERE HAPPY?
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>>678773441
at least 7, but there could be arbitrarily many holes on the back
alternatively, the shirt could just have spots painted on that match the background
there is no single answer that doesn't rely on a lot of assumptions
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>>678773441
There is no shirt or 8.
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>>678774769
if the whole back is missing there's only 2 holes you fucking cuck
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>>678774995
oh yeah.
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>>678774378
>bad bait
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>>678773441
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We can be certain that there are at least seven. Any more and we're making assumptions.
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If you can see all the way the shirt then that means there's a hole in the front and in the back of the shirt
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>>678773441
that depends...

that is not a shirt. it is a visual representation of the artists impression of what a shirt looks like (see pic related) and as such, the answer can be either 0, 2 or 8, depending on what the artist intended you to think.

0 holes: it's a drawing of a shirt, not a real shirt and therefore there are no actual holes in it.

2 holes: it is a two-dimensional representation of a shirt, an 'icon', and therefore the two areas in the centre of the shirt represent two holes.

8 holes: the drawing is intended to be understood as a three-dimensional object and so there are 8 holes - neck hole, two arm holes, the bottom of the shirt is a huge hole and the 'two' holes on the front of the shirt are actually 4 holes because we can see clean through the shirt and so there are holes on the front and identical holes on the back.
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>>678773441
an infinitesimal amount of holes OP, as long as the number is above 8, as the other side could have many holes that just do not go fully through the shirt.

or you could just argue that the shirt doesn't even exist and that all that is around you doesn't exist, because solipsism dictates that you are your own being, and nothing is real. Was the shirt there in the first place? You ask me.
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>>678775464
You can only be certain of 4. Who's to say those two "holes" in the front aren't just designs on the shirt that match the background?
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There is 1 ho in the shirt.
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>>678775739
Who's to say that the neck, sleeves, and bottom are open?
This whole thread is just a question of which assumptions you make.
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>>678775464
What if there is no back to the shirt at all? Then there would be only two holes.
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>>678773441

How the fuck are people getting 7?

It's at a minimum 8 but since we can't see the entirety of the shirt and there may be more on the back that are not visible we cannot be 100% certain.

At least 8 holes on the shirt.
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>>678775938

It's called a shirt in the image. For it to be a shirt by definition it would need to be wearable so we can safely assume they are open.

Otherwise it's no longer a shirt it's a piece of cloth.
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what if its not even a shirt
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>>678773441
8
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There are no holes in the shirt; the shirt is a hole in the world.
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>>678773441
2-infinity

We can't see the back of the shirt, or assume it's a whole shirt, so we can discount the arm, body, and head holes possibly. Because we can't see the back though there could be a infinite amount of holes on that side we would never know about.
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>>678776523
Seven is if there is one big hole on he back.
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>>678775987
Then it wouldn't be a shirt at all you idiot. It would be a shirt-shaped piece of fabric.
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>>678774769
u stupid? why no couting the ones in the middle as well?
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>>678773441
it isn't a shirt
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>>678776789
How much cloth must one remove from a shirt for it to stop being a shirt? Does it matter which cloth is removed? Is this a shirt?
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>>678775690
my nigga
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>>678775377
WTF?
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7 or 8 depending on how big the hole is in the back
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>>678773441
8
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7
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>>678773441
six
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Impossible to determine, considering that there could be holes in the back of the shirt without there being ones in the front to show through.
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its 2. the 2 are the only ones we can see. everything else is possible, but we dont know for sure since the pic is 2d. its as simple as that.
fucking 2
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>>678777517
LOL, the thread resumed to this...
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When you look at the shirt on a sub atomic level it is comprised tiny loops of energy call strings. Each string has a hole in the center of it and the shirt has 8 holes in it so the actual answer would be that there is and infinent number of holes in the shirt plus 8.
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>>678773441
7 holes
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The fabric is only truly broken by two holes, that go all the way through. If you argue that those holes count double, since they penetrate two layers, then four. If "arm holes" count, then so do the other natural openings. Either six or eight in that case.

TL;DR (though if it is your attention span is tragically short), two holes, multiple layers.
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>>678778597
2 idiot
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CHECK EM
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>>678778797
aaaaand you failed
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>>678777511

I suppose you could still call that a shirt, yes.
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>>678778797
Fuck
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someone do the squidward dubs
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>>678779323
all that and your dubs were in the wrong place
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>>678775691
Infinitesimal doesn't mean what you think it means.
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>>678773441
0 because it's not a shirt but a drawing of one.
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A hole is "a part of something where an important detail is missing." Accordingly, OP's image has none.

The shirt - in keeping with current trends - bears several intentional incisions, which are not holes, but important details in the design. If the incised areas were patched, they would become holes, and the value of the shirt would be diminished.
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>>678779522
How many idiots are on /b/?
0 because they're not idiots but textual representations of idiots.
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>>678779522
this is not a shirt
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>>678778444
faggot
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Anywhere between 2 and infinity. Impossible to be more specific without seeing a 3D representation of the shirt.
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>>678779740

uh no.

Hole: an opening in or through something.

Those are holes in the shirt.
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>>678773441
10 must count the holes in the back caused by the front holes
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>>678778256
When you look at the shirt on a

>sub-atomic

level
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it is comprised

>of

tiny loops of energy

>called

strings. Each string has a hole in the center of it
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and the shirt has 8 holes in it
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so the actual answer would be that there

>are

>an infinite

number of holes in the shirt
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plus 8.


Also, you are wrong.
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>>678773441
Not as dumb as you apparently. That's a shitty play on words and arguing semantics is fucking retarded.

But, for what it's worth, it's four. Two in the front and two in the back. When someone says their shirt has a hole in it, then there's a fucking hole in it even if saying that it's ripped may be more descriptive. Stop trying to be cute by getting idiots on /b/ trying to say the sleeves, collar and the opening on the bottom are "holes."
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>>678773441

4, 8 if you include the ones that are supposed to be there.
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>>678773441
i can see four. two in the front and two in the back. i cannot see the neck hole, waist hole or arm holes.

but i can guess they exist, so eight.
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>>678777511
The image you've posted is a shirt, in the much the same way that a micro g-string composed of fishing line - with bits of skin-colored fabric to cover pussy/asshole - is still considered a bikini bottom.

If your bare outline of fabric is worn, like a shirt, then it is a (minimalist) shirt, a garment worn on the torso.
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>>678773441
I would say about twelve thousand
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>>678773441
One

>filename related
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>>678774830
You okay man?
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>>678780273
Yeah, that's my point. The definition of "hole" is in question, and the answer is subjective. "Hole" has so many negative connotations that don't apply to OP's post, though. There, the fabric is sewn around several intentionally mutable areas, intrinsic to the shirt's design.

Those areas can contain virtually anything - air molecules, or a carefully designed patch - and so allow for individual expression on the part of the purchaser.

The shirt has four expression zones, precisely placed, and costs at least four times what an equivalent, "plain white" t-shirt can expect to bring, in terms of retail value.
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>>678773441
This is not a shirt. The answer is therefore undefined.
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>>678773441
If that were a real shirt it would have 8 holes, if it weren't not a real shirt it may not exist for reality does not exist and existing doesn't exist and what is a question but an endless posibility for what happens in the other universes as in the infinite posibilities of a single existence that would not exist but question what existing is for the world to view but what is a world exactly, not something that exists tbh but it might exist therefore you have another question for existment in that existence doesn't exist but if it doesn't exist but what are you existing within? You with me?
I am incredibly high rn
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>>678782633

The definition of hole is not in question or variable at all.

An opening in or through something.

There are at least 7 such openings. Intentional or otherwise makes no difference.
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>>678782633
In the same way that "free speech zones" several miles away from a Republican or Democratic figure's event correspond to the first amendment, the shirt's design is admittedly free of holes.
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68
2 in front
2 in back
neck hole
hole in bottom
and 60 assholes in this thread
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>>678774234
/thread
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>>678783584
Dude, what all are you on? Please tell me.
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>>678773441
The back could have a lot of holes in it for all we know. So there is no right answer
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>>678783926
Just quality weed my friend!
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>>678783926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE
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>>678783584
You've gone to deep man, we need to pull you out.
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>>678784124
But if there is only half a shirt ,as we can only see the front face (we do not know if it loops around), the min is 2 holes.
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>>678783740
A hole indicates an absence of something. There is no absence in OP's design. There are holes in the CLOTH, yes.

The term "shirt" comprises those holes; intent does matter, in this case. There are no holes in the shirt.
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>>678784239
Naw man I'm doing reeeeeeeeaallll gooooood
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>>678774362
because there should be lines indicating fabric between the back holes. like the perimeter of the big hole would be visible from the front
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>>678784239
Anyone have that image where it's a screenshot of that album cover uploaded to howhot.io, and the rating is "Aesthetic"?
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>>678784413

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/hole

Bro what?

Am I being meme'd right now?

Are you taking a philosophy class or something?
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>>678784239
Feels a little 80's. I can sort of see tripping out to it, in some circumstances; not really my thing, though. You're clearly into chill... anything more modern?
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>>678775808
FUcking lol
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4 nigga
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>>678784148
Many years since weed has had that effect on me. Sounds more like a psychedelic/dissociative tbh (never found a psy that agreed with me, though). Enjoy, anyway.
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>>678784239
This song fucking distorts reality....
>>678785234
Dude I'm fucked off of 3 bowls mix of purple kush and girlscout. I'm such a lightweight...
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>>678784924
You like trippy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tIwYNioDL8
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The neck, body, and arm holes are not holes in the shirt. In those places there simply is no shirt to exist to have a hole. If you consider them holes, would you consider every gap between the threads of the fabric a hole? What about the gaps made by the threads as it is sewn through the fabric at the seams?

Perhaps the only hole in the shirt is the empty cavity where a person should be wearing the shirt, fulfilling it's role of providing the functions of warmth, cover, and fashion.
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>>678773441
8
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>>678773441
Could be 7 if there is one big hole in the back
Could be 20 if there are a bunch of tiny holes in the back
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>>678784782
No, the language in OP's post makes the ambiguity possible.

OP asks how many holes are in the SHIRT. The shirt is the complete article - fabric, stitches, decorations, arm/neck/torso holes, etc. As a sheet of fabric, the material has a number of openings that could be called holes.

As a shirt, it just doesn't have any, sorry. If you want to argue that the mid-lower torso incisions are accidental tears and not design features, you could say that the shirt has two (or four) holes, depending on how you support it.

It's still a question of intent, though. As a shirt, this article of clothing has a maximum of four and a minimum of zero holes in it. If the incisions are - as I contend - intentional, the shirt is perfect, and hole-less.
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>>678773441
What shirt that's a picture
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>>678775690

Roland Barthes approves this message.
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>>678785368
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by8dpe12h8Q
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One thing we know for certain. Anyone who said an odd number is a complete stupid fuck and we should all laugh at them.
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>>678773441
6 or 8
depending on how you look at it
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>>678785578

By definition they are considered holes see >>678784782.

>would you consider every gap between the threads of the fabric a hole?

They are technically considered but we are not counting the holes in the fabric we are counting the holes in the shirt which is comprised of the fabric.

>Perhaps the only hole in the shirt is the empty cavity where a person should be wearing the shirt

Each opening into this empty cavity is a separate and unique hole and must be counted individually.
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>>678786562
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMfumv9Vx8g
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>>678773441
>8
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>>678785369
Blank Banshee is also good
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>>678784239
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQzNZR-LXZc
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>>678785369
Dissociative user here... I tend to like it sparse and pure. This would be awesome on psyechedelics, though.
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>>678773441
even if we say for the sake of argument, lets say its a real shirt. we are missing information to accuratly awnser since we cant see the back of the shirt, on top of that we also dont know if the background is just the same colour to possible marks on the shirt.
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7 or 8, depending on the back of the shirt.
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This is amazing, have a catgrill..
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>>678787805
Hmm, put it in, say, a Diesel store, you could get at least $100 for it. No one would sell it in retail. No one would buy it in consignment (unless advertised - truthfully or otherwise - as a top brand).

For the people who would buy it, there aren't any holes.
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>>678786734
We are not counting the gaps in the physical substance, only the failings of purpose that erode at our experience.

Besides, if you won't count the holes in the component material, how can you count the openings for the body? If you had a shirt with no opening for the neck then it would not be a shirt at all.

Perhaps a shirt is such a state is unserviceable and becomes garbage and no longer a shirt to one person, but to another who fishes it out of the trash and may consider it sufficiently a shirt to count the holes.
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>>678786154

Hmmm that's a very good point and I see what you are saying.

However, I still believe (if we are using the dictionary.com definition) that you can count the openings for the head, arms, and torso because they are openings in the fabric and they fall under the definition of a hole.

You're saying that we are counting holes in the shirt and by definition all shirts (or for arguement's sake T-shirts like the one pictured) automatically will have the required 4 holes for the head, arms, and torso and thus should not be counted.

I have to disagree though because it technically still is an opening in the shirt, intentionally made or not.
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There are openings in the fabric at each of the sleeves of the shirt - and one at the neck, and one at the waist - but there are no holes in the shirt.
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>>678773441
Atleast 7
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>>678788388
>>678786154

You and this guy about have me convinced to change my count from 7+ to 2+ but I'm still not totally sure.

You are contending that we should not count the openings for the head, arms, and torso on the basis that the shirt must have these openings in order to be considered a shirt.

I believe that this is irrelevant because whether or not they were placed onto the fabric intentionally does not change the fact that they remain holes.

The reason I won't count the openings of the component material is because fabric =/= shirt.
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A further suggestion: If you walked up to someone and said, "Do you see a hole in my shirt?" - with a shirt like the one pictured, how often would you get a "yes"? The term "hole" is as much a social construct as it is a construct of design. Most people would leave out the arm, neck, and torso holes; as a social construct, we can exclude them. The other gaps in the fabric are a question of current trends/styles.
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>>678789933
I'm almost considering saying there are 3 because the two holes in the front, and the entire backside being missing.

But if you won't consider the natural holes in the fabric that make up the shirt because it is merely the constituent components, how do you then count the openings that are the essence of what the shirt is?

Then again you could create a shirt with one hole. Make a plus shaped fabric and cut a single hole in the center. Place your head through the center and drape the cloth over you like a poncho. Sew up the sides from the bottom up through the underside of the arms and you have a shirt, but the only hole is for your neck, the arm and torso openings are merely the edge of the edge of the shirt manifold drawn together by some thread.

But If the components don't make up the shirt, then the composition of the shirt can't be counted.
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>>678775690
Unless those aren't holes but stains.
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>>678773441
8
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>Neck
>Arm x2
>Waist
>Front x2
>One big-ass hole in the back
Minimum of 7
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>>678782011
kek
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Holy fucking shit...

I have a better question.

Who the fuck cares?
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>>678778833

TRIPLE DOUBLE NO-ASSIST. FUCKIN CHEKD
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>>678792124
You do.

You cared enough to form an opinion.
You cared enough to post.
You care enough that you have desires for the thread.

You are the one that cares.
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>>678791453

In hesitant to count the natural tiny holes in the fabric because the shirt doesn't necessarily have to be made of cloth. If it's made of plastic for example then there will be no such holes.

I am definitely calling into question my original count now though but I'm still not completely convinced.

Also, if I say we can't count the holes in the fabric because fabric =/= shirt then I am using a definition of shirt that includes the openings for the head, arms, and torso.

So I guess I'll have to change my count to at least 3 holes (if the ones on the front and back are not intentionally placed for fashion).

You've convinced me. There are at least 3 holes in the shirt.
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>>678773441
9 if OP is wearing it.
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>>678773441
2
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>>678792620
But you still don't count the hole in my heart when I see the damage done to my favorite shirt?
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>>678774073
Spot the ritard
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>>678773441
shit, like 50 or more. this fucking thing is like 12 years old.
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>>678773441
4 holes, 2 in front 2 in back
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>>678773441

Assuming the shirt is made up of standard shirt material... the answer would be innumerable.

The fabric will be breathable and thus have an endless amount of microscopic holes.
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>>678773441
there could actually be 2 if the entire back of the shirt was a hole
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>>678773441
8
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at least 6, possibly more
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>>678773441
6 and prove me wrong.
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>>678773991
>millions
Such a shirt would fit your mother I reckon
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>>678793404
make that 7 possibly more, forgot one
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>>678793436
There are one or more holes in the back of the shirt.
The natural openings inherent in the shirt do not count as holes.
The image is an illusion trick and not how you think it is.

Take your pick.
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>>678773441
Cloth is made up of thousands of tiny litle holes...
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>>678793975
Cloth isn't made of holes. How do you make something, other than a hole, out of holes?
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>>678774362
Because that hole would have to be in front of the front of the shirt, meaning is in something else, not the shirt.
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>>678794403
There is no such thing as pure vacuum. Even outer space is just a thinner medium than we're used to, an order of magnitude less wrt atoms per square meter.. What some people wrongly call holes are - similarly - parts of less density for any given object.

The word "hole" implies an absence, and is - often - a misnomer.
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>>678774234
This.
Imo it's 4. He asked for holes. But hey, 7 it is.
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>>678773441
There are no holes in it.
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>>678774604
Thank you
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The only valid answer based on what we can see is 4. Where you put your neck and arms through isn't a hole, it's a natural part of a shirt. We see two holes up front and can see through the back so on the back there need to be holes too. It might be a trick and be just one big hole in the back, or have even more tiny holes. But if this isn't supposed to be a trick question it's 100% 4 holes.
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>>678797171
>>678797272
>7171
>7272
what a nice series of dubs right after each other
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>>678797272
If you go by this extremely limited mode of thought - where the "holes" aren't even part of the design - I still say there are only two holes; each goes through multiple layers of fabric.
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>>678773441
6
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>>678773441

2 holes, 4 openings now fuck of with this reddit tier forced meme.
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That was easy, OP here. Now how many jelly beans in this jar?
Winner gets 4chan gold pass for a YEAR
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>>678798676
Zero.
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>>678798740
Nup
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>>678798944
Yes, it is zero. Don't bait retards.
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Lol what everyone its fucking 4
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>>678798975
You only get one guess, how bout letting someone else try you greedy faggot
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>>678773441
how fag is op?
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>>678798676
Pink 176
Black 132
Green 205
Red 149
Yellow 265
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>>678773441
8 faggot
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>>678773441
At least 7
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>>678773441
Only 2 i think
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>>678798526
If the "two holes". are are a point of design, then there aren't any. If the "holes" are incidental, arguments can be made for two and for four.
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>>678793037
Retard dear
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It's not a shirt...IT'S A PICTURE!
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>>678798676
0, those are actually starburst.
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>>678798676
>starburst jellybeans

What kind of shit is this?
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>>678773441
Near billions... All cotton tees have pores
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>>678800911
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>>678773441
8
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>>678773441
2, because given that I can't see a back on the shirt through the holes on the front I'm saying 2, otherwise 8 with back.
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>>678800762
>0, those are actually starburst.
>>678801074
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12
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>>678773441
8

ez gg no re
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The shirt comprises both arm holes, neck, and waist. The remaining holes are two or four (if a result of wear/damage), or zero, if they are present by design.
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at least 7


anyone who doesn't say this is a fucking retard
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>>678773441
What if it actually only has two holes and it's only the front half of a shirt.
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Anywhere from 0 to infite holes in this Shirt:
Shirt could be colored
Standard holes could be stitched up
Back of the Shirt could be colored
Also, there could be infinite holes in the back of the Shirt and an infinite number of holes that cannot be spotted by the human eye
Please define next time where the holes are OP, otherwise its like asking for a defined number to describe all numbers between 0 and 1...
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Did you guys know that a straw only has one hole?
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>>678803878
Did you think 9/11 was an inside job?
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>>678804260
thats unpossible
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>>678773441
The "holes" are the same color as the background; the shirt is the anomaly. The holes in the shirt are immaterial - they are not holes - they reveal the shirt as a hole in the world.

...adamant in p-erfect
midnight;
the breathless world saw color
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>>678803878
The label "shirt" comprises the bulk of the material, as well as the arm/neck/waste gaps. The absence of fabric in those places is part of the design, not something mundane, like a hole.

The central incisions seem integral to the aesthetic, but without firm knowledge of the brand, I can't confirm the number, and I can't say that they aren't holes.
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