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ITT: that moment when you realized democrats are sellouts and republicans are retarded and even more sold out
>be me
>age 24
>having shit time with life never really paid attention to politics
>have shit job no insurance and now face tax penalty because of Obama
>Obama is bought out by companies so of course he has to profit on his shit bills
>Dems are liars and shills
>Scott Walker who governs my state is bought by politicians and is typical shady politician who draws protest and hides away
>ruins Union at my job
>makes us pay dues but cut our benefits
>Republicans are shit
>voting for Bernie
>only real choice
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Scott Walker cut funding for road construction to make room for a new basketball stadium, cut funding for social security recipients and took a raise
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Enjoy throwing your vote away you stupid faggot
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>>678767324
well youre retarded because youre from wisconsin but that doesnt excuse the fact that you dont need to face 'a fee' for no insurance until next year because its not 'technically' enforced with the code you get from said insurance companies. all you have to do is tell who ever is doing your taxes "yes i have insurance" and they will be like "okay bro cool" you dont need to show proof till starting next year.
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>>678767324
>voting for a socialist
America is lost...
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>>678767324
>now face tax penalty because of Obama
bullshit.
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>>678768791
It was his Obamacare bill that made this a thing, prove me wrong
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>>678768791
its true idiot. thats what his whole joke of obama care is. a scam that makes it illegal to not have insurance. not making it more accessible and cheap for people who cant afford it. hes a fucking shill for the insurance companies. but like i said its his own fault for saying he didnt have insurance instead of saying he did. its not enforced till next year
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If your income is so low that you aren’t required to file a tax return, then you're automatically exempt from the penalty. For example, if a single taxpayer’s income in 2015 was less than $10,300, there typically was no need to file a return
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>>678769550 meant to meme quote, source: https://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tools/tax-tips/Health-Care/Are-You-Exempt-From-Health-Care-Coverage-/INF27678.html
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>>678769550
Insurance company is factoring in that I live with my parents and don't have their insurance
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>be me
>19 years old
>paying for college
>adult hood sucks
>joining military
>berniebots preaching socialism and free shit

Good thing we fought wars over socialism
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>>678769066
>be january
>file taxes
>"do you have heath insurance"
>no
>"why not"
>check option 'couldn't afford it'
>"select which months you could not afford it"
>choose all of them
>"it appears you are exempt from the penalty"
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>>678769959 insurance companies aren't the IRS. I don't understand
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>>678770117
That's what I meant. Sorry am tired
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>>678770047
We fought a war against fascism, not socialism, and we only pussyfooted around communism for 60 years and now Russia is ten times as capitalist as America and they are suffering because of it, don't sell socialism short just because you don't think you should pay into the community that holds you up.
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>>678770482 oh, well I am not a tax wizard so I'm not sure how it really works, that seems like something you should look deeper into/more consultation about if you haven't. I don't think it's supposed to work that way but maybe you know better.
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>>678767324
I'm voting for Gary Johnson. He has almost no chance at winning but I personally can't vote for anyone else
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Are berniebots allowed to say retarded? I thought you faggot niggers were politically correct
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>>678770829
you shouldnt waste youre time trying to speak logic to retards
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>>678768653
*communist dictators
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>>678767324
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>>678770047
>joining military
way to suck up my taxes faggot
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>>678772456
>communist dictators
Isn't that redundant?
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>>678768653
you are literally retarded if you think there isnt a difference between nationalism and socialism
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>>678772599
no because I can be a dictator without being communist and I can be a communist without being a dictator
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>>678772514
You realise America is the only first-world country in the world with such a backwards healthcare service?
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>>678768653
Hitler wasn't even socialist or communist, he was fascist...get it right
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>>678772885
>I can be a dictator without being communist
This is true.

>I can be a communist without being a dictator
Every communist state has been totalitarian thus far. Says a bit about communism, doesn't it?
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Obama's 'idea': Give more to the lower class by raising their taxes and letting rich pay little to none.
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>>678772514
>this stupid ass post again
You should read literally any work on political science. There are no such things such as rights. A right is only a right when a government guarantees it. If a government didnt defend your right to bare arms, you wouldnt have the right. If the government makes healthcare a right, then it is a right by definition.
Or what do you argue we stop taxing for public roads, infrastructure, policing, and armies?
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>>678770047
>>preaching socialism and free shit
You do know the military is socialism. Its funded by taxpayers.
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>>678773077
If I am a communist shoemaker, Im not a communist dictator am I?
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>>678768653
either b8 oy you're fucking retarded
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>>678767324
>voting for Bernie

LOL....You complain about how fucked up things are, then want to vote for the person who promises to fuck things up 10x more than any previous president in history? Please, OP, does us all a favor and stay home on election day.....
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>>678767324
lol took your this long op? well there have been plenty examples in the past (most glaring till now bush/gore, gore won popular but still no white house) now we have clinton buying the election before a single vote was cast and the reps saying we don't care what you want we'll choose who ever we want at the convention. voting is a shame, america has the most corrupt and assbackwards "democratic" election system in the world.and this contry will never be fixed cause your vote doesn't matter one bit. "No Taxation without representation" its time or the party (cause there really isn't a difference at this point, they all stand for the politicians and the people who pay for their elections, and will promise anything for votes and never do anything we need once in) to visit madam guillotine so once we've cleaned house the next bunch of ass clowns that get in will think twice about fucking up cause they don't want their heads to roll. "For the good of the state it needs to be bled every twenty years"
pic related, is a blind fool making his/her voice heard on election day
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>>678773442
The communist system is always dictatorial is what I mean.
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>>678768653

>leaders who have gotten their countries/economies into peak shape in recent history

>must have been pure chance

>inb4 talk about their extra-circular activities in trying to take over the world
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>>678773326
>what are natural rights
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>>678773039
He was a national socialist.
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>>678773736

>circular

>fuck me
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>>678770047
>>berniebots preaching socialism and free shit
holy fuck why is there so many cucks like you on the chan.
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>>678773774
fine lol go exercise your natural "rights" to kill someone lol
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>>678773442
You are a communist shoetator and an enemy of the United sandals
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>>678773685

odds are OP will stay home on election day. young people notoriously do not show up at the polls due to being so self centered.
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How can you be from Wisconsin and not pay attention to politics? No way you're from Madison, we have protests damn near daily.
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>>678773697
But not socialism. Of course I have a problem with communism but I really hate when faggots call my boy bernie a communist because hes a socialist.
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>>678773784
You do know there is a difference between "national socialist" and "democratic socialist", right? And in practice Hitler was fascist. The official name of North Korea is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, and it is certainly not a democratic republic of any type.
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>>678774016
Or maybe cause theyre just lazy lol
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>>678773685
>going to fuck things up
>making rich pay taxes they've never had to pay
>using excess on debt, infrastructure, education, climate change, economy
What have the wealthy elites with disposable piles of cash done for you with the 90% of income they don't pay people?
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>>678769066
Republicans were the ones who put that on the bill at the last second, Obama had nothing to do with it and he had to sign, there was a big chance that the bill wouldn't have passed legislation again.
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>>678773917
capitalist swine
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>>678774286
earned those disposable piles of cash
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>>678772514
kys. just fucking kys.

>taxation is theft
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>>678774286
>What have the wealthy elites with disposable piles of cash done for you with the 90% of income they don't pay people?

What have they done TO you, Faggot.
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>>678774564
Exploiting a tax loophole is not the same thing as earning it.
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>>678774564
and what of the billions that were inherited? they were earned thousands of years ago and passed down for generations, it's the same battle, just give into the utopian idea of wealth redistribution and industry by government, which in the USA is we the people
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>>678774286
they don't owe shit faggot
>but they got more than me thats not fair!
you sound like a fucking toddler
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>>678773736
>leaders who have gotten their countries/economies into peak shape in recent history
>stalin
????
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>>678774241 or maybe because they don't trust that people matter because voting system is rigged using polling data to help ease into "acceptable" choices. While we vote on notoriously insecure machines which have been shown to have been manipulated with in the past. LOL
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>>678774862
They wreck this country by sucking up our government money and then taking it away from the poor by taxing them and taking huge tax breaks, you should do some reading
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>>678774910
closing tax loopholes isnt that same as bern's 70% tax plan
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>>678774733
fucking christ finally someone who's not a libertarian anti-statist anarcho-capitalist.
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>>678773873
I'm sorry but as a bernout you have no claim to the word cuck, that is unless you are trying to reclaim it, but it's just too accurate to describe Bernie and his supporters
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>>678774980
Is about the simple fact that they did NOT earn that money, workers have always been exploited, while CEOs sit on their asses the working class is pulling every square inch of weight, it's not about having more it's about being able to survive
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>>678774286
>making rich pay taxes they've never had to pay

Wow, what country are you from? Because here in the US, the rich pay all of the taxes....you stupid lazy freeloading piece of shit. Here, read this...if you even know how to read.

http://www.cnbc.com/2013/12/11/the-rich-do-not-pay-the-most-taxes-they-pay-all-the-taxes.html
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>>678775218
not all the 1% work in the government
cutting government corruption is a whole different battle than taxing the shit out of wealthy entrepreneurs
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>>678775218

>They wreck this country by sucking up our government money and then taking it away from the poor by taxing them and taking huge tax breaks, you should do some reading

You should take some anti-psychotic medication
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>>678775169
I dont like using anecdotes but im not voting because Im lazy
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>>678768653
You wanna talk shit about fascism? Do.

But let me tell ya something

It.
Fucking.
Works.
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>>678775091

>From the Stalin-era to the early Brezhnev-era, the Soviet economy grew much slower than Japan and slightly faster than the United States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_Soviet_Union
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>>678774102
The differences really aren't as pronounced between the two as you cucks like to preach, socialism is communism light when in practice
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>>678775556 nah I get you, it was just a good moment to shill into my ideas about government voting fraud
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>>678775476
>workers have always been exploited, while CEOs sit on their asses the working class is pulling every square inch of weight

Sounds like you're a moron for not starting your own business.
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>>678773685
>>678773873
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJj2kSbwpqE

Economist disagree
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>>678775476
if these workers are so damn exploited why don't they work a different job? or god forbid start their own business? lots of people are self employed
how old are you? serious question
is this advanced bait? I don't visit /b/ often
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>>678774286
you might be poor in cash, but you are rich in stupidity
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>>678775282
His tax plan increases taxes only on people making $250,000 or more. Even then it caps out at 52% in the highest bracket.
https://berniesanders.com/issues/how-bernie-pays-for-his-proposals/
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>>678775822
kek don't have anything legit to say
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>>678773414
This so much and other than a few sane people
ITT- I don't know what socialism is
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>>678775655
Thats the equivalent of saying that capitalism is fascism light in practice.
Obviously you dont even know what socialism is. Socialism doesnt entail any form of governance, just like capitalism. You can have both being ruled by an autocrat or a democracy. Socialism is strictly an economic policy, unlike communism which is politically charged. In fact, the united states currently has socialist policies, making it a socialist and capitalist country, where capitalism refers to the style of market system and socialism refers to public welfare programs.
Have you ever even read any political science or books in general? Maybe you should go to bed junior
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>>678775765
Off of what money dumbass? I need Bernie to get in so I can get a free social security check and free college first to start my business
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>>678775606
yeah that turned out well for them
long term is where communism really shines
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Work
Save
Invest
Retire

Everything else is a comforting LIE.
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>>678776139
Skipping the fact that she used the money to pay for financially disadvantaged teens to go to college
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>>678767324
lol bernie is buying your vote by promising free stuff. where do you think the government gets money
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Living on the dole is a form of slavery.
Don't fall for it.
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>>678775765
>Lol let me just start a business where market giants can undercut literally any product or service I choose to sell
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>>678775793
>one economist
how many wackjob scientists are out there preaching about aliens and spirit science. they don't gain any traction because they need to publish rigorous papers. econ isn't the same
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No leader is in power forever, not even Obama.

Outlast him and his ghetto-punk friends.
Save a tiny amount of each paycheck. study a little each day.
>>> Profit.
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>>678776534
>not understanding how roads, military, education, infrastructure, emergency services, science research projects etc are paid for
go to be son
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>>678776354
While you capitalists burn your atmosphere us socialists will come and scavenge your remains, clean up your cities and put solar panels and gay strip clubs at every corner
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>>678776351 oh yeah because economic warfare isn't a thing that happens, nope, there totally wasn't a whole fucking conspiracy to destroy the USSR's economy from the west. Jesus, the UnitedStates JUST RECENTLY took off a bunch of sanctions on cuba.
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>>678776747
>paying taxes = getting held at gunpoint
lol this faggot needs to crymore
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>>678775929
It increases taxes on payroll even for the lowest percentage of earners. Don't be tricked into paying more taxes for government controlled programs... free college and healthcare will be run like the VA.
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>>678776747
>can't save money now that obummer ruined economy
>need handouts
>obummer won't stop until we're all on handouts
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>>678776997
so gutted and made worthless by republicans?
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Sexy 7s coming up
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>>678774286

>2016 and there are people who still don't know that rich people pay the highest taxes

KEK
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Only the most basic commons should be taxed and group-funded (cops, fire dept. army) everything else would be better individual.
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>>678776816
>no true scotsman
its always something isn't it. Soviet union, the largest country on earth, literally needed to rely off america to survive? economic warfare was it's downfall? the soviets were just as intent to destroy america as we were to crush communism
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>>678776747
>still believing in excellent socioeconomic mobility
youre literally a CEO cuck
the american dream is just slightly more realizable than "work will set you free"
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>>678767324
>OP not having understood yet that politics is only about politicians getting attention and income
>OP not having understood that Sanders has his own niche that he peddles to voters

Yeah, im outta here.
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>>678777047
lol pls explain how Obama ruined the economy
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>>678777157
People forget how much Bernie fucked things up when he was chairman for the VA.
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Be a worker, OP. Not a moocher.
Be a maker, not a taker.

The food, clothes, cars, houses, and sex is all better over here.
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>>678767324
>Scott Walker is bought by politicians
>a politician
>is bought by politicians
>I'm bought
>your bought
>my fucking dog is bought
this is how your average American believes their government is run.
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>>678777299
>american dream
we've been socialist since the 80s
we get more socialist every year
but its always
>muh capitalism is killing the economy
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>>678777363
Obamacare demolished our economy are you retarded?
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>>678777282

>the soviets were just as intent to destroy america as we were to crush communism

likely.

>rely off america

and all their closest friends

>its always something isn't it

If you wish to see how effective it is just look back on how much it's cost to fill up your car with gas in 2016.
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>>678776628
"A letter signed by 170 economists including former Labor Secretary Robert Reich, University of Texas Professor James K. Galbraith, Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research in Washington, DC., Brad Miller, former U.S. Congressman from North Carolina, and William K. Black, University of Missouri-Kansas City endorsed the Sanders plan to reform Wall Street(http://www.politicususa.com/2016/01/14/170-economists-bernie-sanders-plan-reform-wall-st-rein-greed.html)."
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>>678777524
Lol again pls explain
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CHOOSE your future, OP.
Don't let some fat old middle aged lady put you on foodstamps. You'll be her whore for life.
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>>678777524
it, if anything, did nothing
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>>678777411
Reagan was a fuck up. Some of the conservatives of todays generation think hes some sort of hero. A blue collar worker actually living during his presidency will tell you otherwise
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>>678777460
We are truly socialist during our best time post World War Two when taxes were 95% and everyone had a house and room to have children, everything was cheap as hell and then that asshole Kennedy came along and started lowering taxes, low taxes have always been our downfall
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>>678777460
We've been socialist for a lot longer. The reason that new businesses get blown the fuck out is that they have no chance of competing with larger chains
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>>678775476
Those CEOs built those companies. People like you are jealous and are too lazy and/or dumb to start your own company, so you want the government to step in and force a hard working guy to give you free money. You are a BIG loser and a whiner. If you want money, go and earn it like those CEOs did.
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Make money, then give it away if you like.
DON'T just vote for some cuck to take your neighbor's money.
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>>678770047
america's best years were during its socialist days, stfu
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Trump wins!

67877777 GET
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Hitler would have been the perfect leader if he didn't hate the Jews

Why not vote for the Jew who has Hitlers ideas minus hating Jews?
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>>678777989
Like anyone has a chance at being a CEO unless daddy gives them the keys.
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>>678777989
Lol try starting your own company. Youll find that anything you do will be undercut by the big guys. You dont have the resources to make things cheaper than walmart or offer services for a cheaper price than some large company can
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>>678777575
re-enactment of the glass-steagal is a whole different topic than more taxes for everyone and free shit everywhere
did you even read the link? glass steagal isn't was around a lot longer before bernie started making a deal about it
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I'm sure the top x% just gained that much money because they worked harder than the rest of us
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>>678770079
The only person who has actually done their taxes and knows. These are facts. 2015 filer
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>>678777989
You do realize the majority of the most successful companies were established 100+ years ago right? If not shit b8 m8
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>>678769140
people who are poor have medicaid. ideally, you should get health insurance from your employer. The small percentage of people that don't can go buy it on the marketplace, where the companies actually compete against each other, so the market lowers the price.
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>>678776539
>Lol let me just start a business where market giants can undercut literally any product or service I choose to sell

My wife said the same thing.
I convinced her to go for it anyway.
12 years later she's operating in about 20 countries with a business valued at $20 mil.
Started her business with a computer (that she already owned), a car (already owned), and $400 of supplies.
A little courage and hard work didn't hurt either.
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>>678767324
>>ruins Union at my job
how is that bad
>>makes us pay dues but cut our benefits
your shit jobs makes you do that not your state
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>>678778040
youre just pretending like that money isn't doing anything.
Government is a service and you purchase that service.
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>>678777865
nice meme
really high taxes isn't the same as government controlling the economy, its just really high taxes
not to mention everything was deductable back then so what people were actually paying in taxes was much lower than today
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$ = Freedom.

Don't give up, OP. I'll bet there's something you like, or are better at, than everybody else. Go do it, and reap the rewards.
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>>678778333
>courage and hard work
>got lucky selling shit online
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>>678778186
but you can supply for a more niche market, you don't have to try to sell the same products walmart sells
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>>678778195
>did you even read the link? glass steagal isn't was around a lot longer before bernie started making a deal about it

Bernie was shitting bricks in 1999 when they repealed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8onHJbTx-U
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>>678778333
>12 years later
Things are probably a lot different now. As much as I congratulate you and your wife, I feel it necessary to address the fact that production and distribution have experienced a major overhaul in the last decade
http://www.alternet.org/corporate-accountability-and-workplace/4-ways-amazons-ruthless-practices-are-crushing-local
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>>678778426
The process of letting the government handle it first equals more back, as well having smaller paychecks on average businesses are forced to sell things for cheaper to meet standards, so it works as a form of non enforced socialism.
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>>678778126
>>678778186

You are one of those people who are simply not entrepreneur material......you end up being the dishwasher in the restaurant.
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>>678778315
Employer insurance is shit... fuck paying $240 a month for a fucking 5,000 co-pay.
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>>678777275
>pay

No they don't. They hide their money in offshore tax havens. Have you heard of the Panama Papers? The worldwide corruption is being exposed. The middle class is shrinking because they are taking on the burden of the wealthy.
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>>678778395
except that service isn't competing so it has no incentive to improve and it literally punishes you for not paying with no option to decline service
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>>678778618
Alright what kind of niche market would you target? I couldnt think of anything if I tried
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>>678773414
>You do know the military is socialism. Its funded by taxpayers.

Doesn't know what Socialism is.

Everything funded by taxes is NOT Socialism, Dipshit.
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>>678778621
so was a lot of people. bernie wasnt special back then
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>>678776354

>ignores embargo in place by US since 1962.
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Companies persuade.
Governments punish.

Bill Gates, Donald Trump, Richard Branson, can only ASK you to trade your money for their stuff.

But... the lowliest DMV thug can FORCE you to give them your money.
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>>678778295

I started a business seven years ago, with only $200 to invest. I now own two restaurants and a grocery store. You work hard, you get paid hard.
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>>678778740
but they payed less in taxes because of deductables
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>>678778755
Lol im in a pretty reputable law school
I have no interest in being an entrepreneur nor do I have any special services or products that I can focus on so Im not wasting my time on some outdated goal
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>>678778755
And does the lowly dishwasher not deserve dignity? Not everyone can succeed in college or as a business type, or doesn't want to, what makes you any better?
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>>678778885
local comic book shops
local restaurants
online sex toy manufacturer
businesses don't need to be a massive chain to be successful
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>>678778755
>implying youre not some raggamuffin working a shitty blue-collar job for shit pay
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>>678778726
>Things are probably a lot different now.

Ah yes, the last argument of the perennial loser.

If anything is different it's that it's a lot EASIER to succeed now because there are so many losers. Less competition.
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>>678779063
And for every success story like yours, 500 people didn't get lucky and are still poor. And literally all of them worked just as hard as you1
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I came for the memes
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>>678779000
>literally needing the us (largest CAPITALIST country) to be successful
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TAKE control of your life, OP.
Don't trade welfare for the chance to have been something totally cool.
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>>678778934
Actually it is, pure capitalism was when everyone paid the king dues and brought offerings but received nothing in return, tax benefits and taxation with representation was socialism
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>>678778934
Socialism bad know guiz, dats totally wut Musselliner did and he died by United States world police or something. I totally understand it because I read Facebook posts.
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>>678769140
Obama care sucks but it was needed in America as a stepping stone to free Healthcare
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>>678779228
>And does the lowly dishwasher not deserve dignity?

Define "dignity"
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>>678779134
>im in a pretty reputable law school

Really, which one?
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>THE GOVERNMENT IS A BUNCH OF OLD RICH GUYS WHO WANT TO STOMP THE WORKERS
>LET THE GOVERNMENT TAX EVERYBODY AND CONTROL EVERYTHING
>THE GOVERNMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR DESPAIR
>GIVING THEM MORE POWER WILL FIX OUR PROBLEMS
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>>678779402

No.
You're an idiot.
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>>678779402
>
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>>678779238
Not everyone has the possibility. If three people open a restaurant, its very likely at least one of them will fail. Although I do agree that a business doesnt have to be big, if everyone tried to start their own businesses a lot of them would fail
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>>678779228

"Dignity"? Please explain. Do you even know what that word means?
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>>678779443
socialism works guys my friend on facebook posted these pictures that said republicans make people poor and capitalism is responsible for world hunger
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>>678779482
think ivy league
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>>678779448
Free healthcare and college
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>>678779394
I agree.
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>>678779290
Yeah lol why doesnt everyone just start up their own business. Im sure that will work
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>>678779665
thats called competition. in nature not every animal gets to survive and reproduce. some of them are weak and get eaten. as a result animals learn to adapt

>there are people on THIS forum right now that believe in both evolution and socialsim
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>>678778955
name a single candidate who said they will reinstate glass steagal other than Bernie.
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>>678779801
>think ivy league

I'm thinking your Mommy's basement.
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>>678779394
Financial security is pretty cool anon
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>>678779328
>And for every success story like yours, 500 people didn't get lucky

Luck? Try working 20 hour days, seven days a week and living at my business in a store room for the first three years. That's dedication, not luck. If you aren't willing to put in the effort and make major sacrifices, then you do not have what it takes to make it work, plain and simple.
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>>678779974
we should kill all poor people amirite?
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>>678780000
nice quads but
Think whatever you want to. I couldnt care less for your validation
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>>678779975
not everybody who supported glass steagal is running for president
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>>678780089
>implying no one else did this and didn't get lucky enough to survive as a business
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>>678780089
Lol we should all just open up our own business yeah!!!!!
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>>678780089
>living in a gas station broom closet and doing heroine in between your shifts
>successful business owner
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>>678780133
more like everybody should be responsible for themselves and if they are too stupid or lazy too they shouldn't leech off success
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>>678779940
>Yeah lol why doesnt everyone just start up their own business. Im sure that will work

How about YOU do it.
Or shine my shoes.
Your choice.
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>>678777282
>Implying the US is a long-term economic success
You're halfway to become Mexico lol. Your whole country has been on a war economy for a hundred years, stop that and the US will become a third world country
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Do what you love, OP.
The money will come soon afterwards.
No Bernie-cuck bullshit. That's for losers.
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>>678780000
>Nice quads!!

TOP KEK. 'Momma's Basement Skool for Indigent Attorneys'.
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>>678780280
so basically fuck the entire point of having a society?
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>>678780280
The thing is, it's the opposite right now. The rich are leeching off the poor, and making them poorer. They've depressed the wages, but raised the economic prosperity, and brought women in to compete with men for wages.

They are systematically stripping the economy of money and prosperity, and piping it out of the country.

Is this justifiable because they are successful at it? I don't fucking think so.
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>>678780089
A guy from the State Labor Board came into my shop last week and
started asking me about my employee's pay and work hours. So I told him "Right now,
I've got 3 guys making $25-$30/hr, 5 making $20-$25/hr, 14 making $15-$20/hr,
all working 40 hrs/week. And there's one guy making about $2/hr and working
90 hrs a week."
"That's the guy I want to talk to!", he exclaimed, as his eyes lit up.
"Um", I said, "That would be me".
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>>678780304
>capitalism has been the norm for as long as economies have existed
>socialism has popped up as we know it in the last 50 years
but nah the economy is all the greedy capitalist pigs fault aint it
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>>678779924
All welfare is shit. Don't let the large examples hide the evil that pollutes all sides of it.
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>>678780521
Bullshit
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>>678767324
this guy gets it.

all politicians and political parties are corrupt.
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>>678780296
Nah Im happy in law school
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>>678780565
You don't know what socialism is.

Socialism is as old as society itself, starting with all public works, granaries, and standing armies.
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>>678780218
Actually, I tried to start a business on several occasions, they all failed. But I am determined and didn't give up, so I kept trying until I made it work. You call it luck, I call it hard work and perseverance.
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>>678780521
Well done.
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>>678780521
Nice!!
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>>678780241
Why not?
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>>678780851
I call it being a corporate america cuck
for every 1 that takes off, 10 will fail
>not the exact ratio but...
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>>678780772

>Nah Im happy in law school

Now I know you're full of shit.
Nobody is happy in law school.
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>>678780416
you can have a free market and care for your fellow man
people have had free markets for as long as civilization has been around. capitalism exists in a vacuum
>>678780506
>everybody is just a bunch of voluntary slaves
sometimes the economy sucks. that's called the economic cycle. We'll discuss this further in chapter 2 of economics 101
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>>678780190
>not everybody who supported glass steagal is running for president

You mean "The only candidate running that supports glass steagal is Bernie."
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Harvard law student here, Bernie is the real choice in candidates, Trump will see a rise in the prison population and Bernie will legalize pot.
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>>678781041
true lol
Im content at least
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>>678780851
You're turn is coming.
Learn and advance.
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>>678780815
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_socialism
>The history of socialism has its origins in the French Revolution of 1789
but nah ancient rome was socialist because anonymous user said so
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>>678781021

If you fail, you try and try again, until you get it right. If you are a quitter, you were never a businessman to begin with.
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>>678781018
for obvious reasons
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>>678781079
yeah I have no clue what point youre trying to make buddy
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>>678781288
True we sould all just make our businesses. Im sure that would work
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>>678781041
What Juris Doctor are you going for? Tort etc,.?
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>>678779446
I just wish Congress would of actually read it
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>>678775514
Say that to the 3.5k the government took from my fed with holdings making $35k
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>>678781385
That you are full of shit
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Make it rain.
Your own efforts are the way.
Gov. 'free' shit always has strings attached.
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>>678780565
Sure, then came the industrial revolution and made the capitalist system unsustainable
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>>678781684
What could they possibly take that they haven't already?
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>>678781508
uh sure buddy what ever
+1 internet argument for you
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>>678781487

Actually, you are paying much less taxes than most who make the same amount. You should have paid a marginal tax rate of 15% filing as head of household, and 25% if you made over $37.5K. You are lucky :)
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>>678767324
>he fell for the bernie meme
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Welfare is the fool's bargain.
Make your own cash.
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>>678781861
After Bernie's tax plan it'll be 0.1 internets
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>>678781487
how did you manage to get away with paying so little in taxes?
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>>678781861
Thanks
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Funny when people always fail to realize, for some to be rich some have to be poor, and for few to be very rich most have to be poor. Can anyone honestly explain a valid reason that the 62 richest people in the world have 50% of the wealth? Are they honestly that good, or are they just good at exploiting?
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>>678782070
Eic.. And that's it
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The gov. wants you to give up.
Me, God, your parents, and your future waifu are saying:
DON'T GIVE UP!
Tell the gov. to eat shit and go get your own groove on.
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>>678781782
except no it was unstable at first like all new industries and markets, but with our shitty understanding of economics at the time the government decided to step in every time we hit a low point rather than letting the economy heal like it's proven to do (economic cycle and such). We have had innovation every step along the way. The internet turned out to be a huge source of economic advancement and entrepreneurial potential. Don't tell me that internet is a more stable economic environment than the industrial markets of the time.
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>>678782190
>62 richest people in the world have 50% of the wealth
I don't believe that statistic
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>>678781892
Yes but because poor people have a less % of income, and quite a few use govt benefits, food stamps/Medicaid, plus retirees collecting social security, you can always say the poor take more than they put in.
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>>678782190
The rich have spare $ to dump into assets that makes more $.
That doesn't mean you can't make your own Benjamins.
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>>678782190
yeah and if you own $30,000 to your name then you're part of the top 10%, so why can't you rich asshole who havent earned a cent share with all those poor african children? surely that will solve all of our problems
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>>678782485
Google it or
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3404296/The-world-s-62-wealthiest-people-poorest-3-6billion.html
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>>678782485
>>678782721
This actually says that the top 62 people have the same as the bottom 50% of people. Still fucked up though.
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My mom used to be on foodstamps, but also worked.
She came home one night worried, and I asked her whassup.
She said they were wanting to promote her to manager and give her a raise, but she was afraid that would kill her foodstamps.

W....T....F...? I told her TAKE that promo, it's better than waiting for Obama to bottle feed you.
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>>678782721
>>678782190
>62 richest people own as much as half of the world's population put together
isn't the same as
>62 richest people own half the wealth
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>>678782649
Not even close to being in the top 40% with 30k. And I do, and in my free time I help do habitat for humanity
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>>678770047
>Be me
>23 years old, graduating.
>Like fucking flies my classmates have dropped for financial reasons and overstressed schedules trying to cut quarters. I've come damned close to dropping myself many times.
>Adulthood sure does fucking suck.
>Community college ate up years of my life without saving me significant amounts of money.
>High taxation plans to make college free would fuck me in the ass as I try to get a career started.
>My gaping anus is open to Bernie though.
>I was pressured hard to get my degree. I was raised to think I would be worthless without it.
>Limited jobs, particularly limited decent jobs, become even more limited without that otherwise fucking pointless piece of paper that so many fight, struggle, sweat, bleed, and cry far too much for, myself included.
>No generation deserves this torture. The majority of my peers and I will never own a home. Some are over a hundred thousand in debt to work their ass off for a chance at the job lottery for the opportunity to work their ass off even harder and break even before they fucking die.
>This isn't right. This isn't okay. A safe path should exist with reasonable reward. These aren't or shouldn't be days of crisis and survival.
>So tax us until we die. We're fucked anyway, what's adding a few more inches up our lower intestine going to do? Maybe the next batch will turn out okay with a better system.
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>>678781159

Thanks!!
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>>678782972
if you can live comfortable off never working hard, why would anyone ever work hard?
>>678783025
I was talking about world population, so spit up all your cash, them africans need a new orphanage
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Nick Cage says:
spit out that bureaucracy boob and make your own moola.
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>>678783104
I had to pay my own way through college while working two jobs. Welcome to reality my friend.
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>>678783207
As long as I knew 100% was going towards the building of it, then I would, not that children's fund bullshit with the dude wearing a rolex
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>>678783435
"I had it hard why should anything ever get easier for people"
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>>678781288
>If you fail, you try and try again, until you get it right. If you are a quitter, you were never a businessman to begin with.

I worked for a guy when I was 17 who took a liking to me and shared a lot of advice and experience with me.

Once he told me about the first business he started.....and failed. Lost $20k.
Started another.....and failed. Lost $250k.
Started a third business and nailed it. At the time, his business was worth, I believe he said, $11 million.

So, being a dumb kid, I said "So, you'd be over $250k richer if you hadn't started those first 2 businesses."

"No", he said, "I'd be $11 million poorer"

I thought a lot about that.
And after I worked for a few years after getting out of college, I started my own business.

Luckily, I succeeded on the first try.
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