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Lets take our country back /b/
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I assume you're being sarcastic. So, here's some actual facts about gun ownership vs. crime.
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>>678228511
>second commandment
>commandment
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>>678229748
Learn to read.
It says Gommandment.
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>>678228511

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>>678228511
>Thou shalt have no other gods before me
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>Thou shalt not worship graven images?
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>>678228511
Your hilariously retarded picture sums up what trump supporters are kek
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>>678232407
>Thou SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
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>>678230593
The person who wrote that needs to learn how to write a fucking G.
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>>678232318
I find it really weird that milo likes guns for some reason.
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>>678232493
he lives in france now, probably had to fill a shitload of paperwork for that AK lmao
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>>678234879
Not even voting for Bernie, Probably voting for Trump in all honesty
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>>678228511
Second commandment coming up. Not sure why Trump would care
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>>678238059
Guess It's true that trump is making anime real.
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WHY

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>>678228511
Yea Im with you on that lets take back our land.
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>>678239550
jew isn't a race
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>>678229580
so ban statistics and problem solve
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>>678233827
kek
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>>678240359
just a fact. the picture is flawed.
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>>678240060
Utah had a population of 0 (native americans count as animals) until the mormons settled there
it was only nominally spanish and then mexican territory
in what meaningful way does mexico have any claim on utah?

also
"thebordermovedonus" claim is bullshit
any mexican citizens that were residents of the ceded territories were immediately given US citizenship

and texas and oklahoma seceded from mexico because the mexican government didn't represent the interests of any resident of texas
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>>678240994
You really let the Kikes brainwash you into believing they're not a race, huh?

You poor, sad, sad little faggot.

Go forth and luck be with you. God knows you will need it in this life.
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>>678241672
fuck you A5
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>>678228511
What's with you fucktards feeling attacked all the time?
"Our faith is under attack" No, it isn't
"Obama wants to take our guns" No, he doesn't

Shut your retarded burgerholes once in a while
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>>678237111
What the fuck is even happening?
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>>678242809
You're a fucking moron. Just keep praising your filthy fascist leader good goy
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only an autist believes da gobament is going to take your guns.
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>>678243352
And who the fuck would that be?
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>>678242377
The emotion. Yeees, embrace your anger.
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>>678242865
the hot chick grabbing the sign is the TRUMP girl,
the vegan bitch with no ass and the other chubby bitch are the Bernouts.
/pol/ had threads proving it with solid evidence
the Trump sign the fat bitch is holding is flipped and has anti-Trump shit on it.
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>>678228511
Wow.
A Christfag gun nut who cannot spell.
What a surprise.
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>>678244154
Shit m8, do you also believe your autism was caused by vaccines?
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>>678243748
Alright, I thought it was something along those lines, but I'm a little too baked to believe myself. thanks man.
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It really doesn't if you allow it or not, the problem is your fucktarded country.
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>>678241312
>any mexican citizens that were residents of the ceded territories were immediately given US citizenship
Yup. And as newly found citizens of a nation they didn't accept, their land rights were respected immensely by the American pioneers. Everyone lived happily ever after in California.
>and texas and oklahoma seceded from mexico because the mexican government didn't represent the interests of any resident of texas
They disallowed slavery.
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>>678244517
> pretty sure gandhi doesn't know who trump is
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>mfw Trump vowed to eliminate the debt in 8 years
wow, just wow. he doesn't understand basic economics, it's not possible to eliminate the 20 trillion dollar debt when we already in a massive deficit, what a moron
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>>678241505
Honestly don't need your good regards. Doing pretty well. I don't need to live in a way that actually requires me to care about these things like you do. But thanks anyway.
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>>678244819
> you're not on 4chams whining about politics...
Sure thing bud. Whatever makes you sleep at night.
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>>678241505
Atleast I don't wear a tinfoil hat all the time.
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>>678245070
So many bitches on 4chan these days. When did 4chan get so fucking soft?
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>>678245063
"jew isn't a race"
>whining
k. you do you, man.
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>>678245270
It didn't you just got more retarded.
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>>678228511
LAWD JEZUZ VOTE FOR TRUMP!!!
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>>678245683
Do yourself a favor and think your own logic through before you post.
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>>678246223
Quebec represent
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>>678246256
as far as I'm concerned your opinion is very little to me. Like your penis.
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>>678234879
I'm pretty lazy.
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Trump 2016
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>>678237111
Kek, girls are stupid as fuck.
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>>678228511

>no false idols
maybe a dig at neocons
i don't know of a bunch of idiots that worship guns more
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>>678229580
There was never a wild west and the 19th century saw the greatest restriction on public carry in US history.
Stop watching movies and read a book faggots.
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>>678247473
Nope Trump said Most. And he assumes some are good people
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>>678235926
Donald take my high energy
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>>678247995
Look at these bitches trying to still his groceries.
Fucking feminists
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>>678248145
Oh my god
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>>678244538
It is our retarded government's fault for not allowing it's citizens to defend themselves against these armed criminals.
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>>678232215
Stupid argument. If pools were designed specifically to make drowning in them as easy as possible, they'd be banned in a second, and rightly so.

Guns are designed to KILL HUMAN BEINGS.

That is their primary purpose.

Can you name anything else whose primary function is killing human beings that isn't outlawed?

Grenades? Banned.
Never gas? Banned.
Bombs? Banned.
Rocket launchers? Banned.

Give me an argument for the validity of personal ownership of guns that doesn't equally apply to the 4 things above, I dare you.
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>>678241954
What a bitch.
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>>678234879

reefer & hip-hop, check
all others are n/a
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>>678248348
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>>678231250
HOLY SHIT
what a fucking badass.
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>>678248408
Even if they're designed to kill people, they're still responsible for less deaths than plenty of things that are legal. That is a cogent argument. You didn't really refute it.
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>>678244005
Thanks, Obama.
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>>678248853
>That is a cogent argument...

Are you seriously this stupid?

Nuclear weapons are responsible for fewer deaths than adding sugar to foods. Does that mean, since sugar is legal, nuclear weapons should be as well?

Fuck, it's like you conservatards don't even TRY to think.
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>>678248408
Hunting and clay pigeon shooting. Neither of those require killing people. Fuck, one has an event in the Olympics.
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>>678248851
>guy who doesn't pay them...

Are Trumptards really advocating taking away the religious tax exemption, now? That's great news, but the evangelical Christian wing of the Republitards aren't going to like it much...
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>>678249216
No, because one is a weapon of mass destruction and the other cases diabetes. Only a liberal would compare sugar to nuclear weapons.
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>>678249273
>primary purpose

Do you know what the word primary means, nigga?
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>>678244538

My chances of being killed by a gun are 3 in 100,000. I'll roll that dice.
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>>678249640
>Give me an argument for the validity of personal ownership of guns that doesn't equally apply to the 4 things above

Can you even fucking read?
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>>678249682
Vietnam could've been won faster if they killed the idea of limited war while it was born
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>>678249578
>You can't compare things that are different!

Oh, like you can't compare swimming pools to guns?

Fucking moron, you just destroyed your own argument, then.

>only a liberal would...

Do you have the memory of a goldfish, motherfucker? Do you even remember the swimming pool bullshit that I was replying to originally?
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>>678236733
fucking scum
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>>678249921
That wasn't me, I'm just telling you that sugar=/=nukes
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>>678249892
You can hunt with poison gas.

You can shoot clay pigeons with a rocket launcher. (Hell, I bet that would be more fun than using a shotgun!)

Your argument is invalid.
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>>678250112
>Tiny objects
>rocket launcher
pick one
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>>678250089
And my point originally was to show how stupid it was to compare swimming pools to guns.

Thanks for reinforcing it.
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>>678239550
Disowned daughter.
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Keep posting anon, you're doing God's work.
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>>678250241
The real reason the second amendment exists is not for hunting, but as a reset button for the US if things ever get so bad that force is the only way to fix it.
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>>678231250

fake and gay. real guns don't sparkle like that
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To everyone who thinks Trump is a good idea, and to everyone who is worried about trump gaining momentum:

Trump is a distraction. It's called 'media manipulation'.

Don't fall for the trap.

Those who stand prevent any 'outsider' from getting elected /want/ us to spend time giving Trump attention, good or bad.

Why? Because a distraction, even a small one, can be enough to detract from someone else winning - "keep your eye on the goal".

I know, it is very hard to do to just ignore shit like this - but if any of us want to truly be progressive and revolutionary, and not just consumers, that is what we have to do.

Dont be controlled.

Think for yourself - question authority.
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>>678247772
Trips checked
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>>678228511
ACTUAL RECENT QUOTE FROM DONALD TRUMP FOUND ON CNN:

"i like to dress up as Webby
not everybody thinks that its cool, but i finally met a girl who thinks im a 10/10 would bang like bam in my Webby suit.
she'd come over sometimes while her boyfriend was away after school.

once the door would close she'd almost instantly get naked. most times she'd put on her favorite song and start sucking. then she would cry. her tears and makeup would drip down her face onto my dick. its surprising how cold tears are. eventually i finally asked her what was wrong. in between licks she told me that her favorite song was also her bfs favorite song. so even though she loved hearing it and it totally got her pussy wet, it also made her think about the fact that she was cheating on her boyfriend. i dont think i ever came harder down somebodies throat then right after she told me that. she was beautiful. we dont hang out anymore. wanna get lunch?


this was the song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVI4Knz24CQ
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>>678250097
>Bernie is the just like...

False. The Sheriff of Nottingham taxed the POOR to give to the rich. The bottom 90% of households will come out ahead under Bernie's plan. That is helping the poor, while taxing the rich. That is the OPPOSITE of the Sheriff of Nottingham. The fact that you can't see this means you're either stupid as fuck, or you've deluded the fuck out of yourself.
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>>678250112
Except for the fact that those are completely asinine. The cost of shooting clay pigeons with rockets would be astronomical compared to just a few shotgun shells, and hunting with poison gas would harm much more than the one deer I want to kill for some food.
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>>678249216
Rather than chimp out like the some stupid instinctual animal, why don't you actually read the post again. Your initial argument was that the argument that "guns are responsible for less deaths than pools and demonstrably so (and the implication being therefore should not be as feared as they are)" is a "retarded" argument. This implies there is some logical flaw with this argument. Rather than directly address and refute it, you simply offered a counterpoint that is irrelevant to the initial argument. Critical thinking can be tricky, but when we act like rational individuals and apply it, it makes these conversations productive. Also nuclear weapons can't be owned by private citizens, and if you need me to explain the difference between a nuclear weapon and a firearm to you, you really have no right to have an opinion on anything.
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>>678250500
those aren't even trips you fucking newfag
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>>678250491
Got any proof besides hypothetical?
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>>678244538
2/3 of thosse are suicide deaths, while America consists of a large amount of gangs, coming from mexico and the Detroit community.

An increase in guns reduces deaths, ex Sweden mandatory law for everyone to have a gun, lowest homicide rate in the world. Then Muslims came and shit went to hell, liberals kill people not guns.
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>>678228511
Trump supported the assault weapon ban and the SAFE passage in NY.
He also was a long time contributor to the Clintons.
Fuck.
Him.
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>>678251037
I think the lowest murder rate in America is in Plano, Texas.
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>>678249921
No one was comparing the function of guns to this function of swimming pools. The image compared the number of deaths they cause annually to demonstrate the fact that guns aren't as dangerous as some people assume. This is a logically fair comparison. Nuclear weapons and guns (or sugar or whatever) isn't, at least in the context you used.
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>>678248411
<3 her
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>>678250448
>The real reason the second amendment exists is not for hunting, but as a reset button for the US if things ever get so bad that force is the only way to fix it.

Wrong. The 2nd Amendment is there to allow the Southern slave-holding states to rally their own militias to defend from slave revolts, as well as to have armed posses to chase down runaway slaves. This is not seriously disputed by any reputable historians, and the "muh tyranny" thing is nothing more than an invented talking point by the gun lobby, taking advantage of out of context quotes by the the Founders. They were NEVER talking about guns in the hands of individuals, only about organized militias... (You know, like it actually fucking SAYS in the 2nd Amendment?)
Look in the Federalist Papers. There is literally no mention of using guns OR militias for a revolt.

Fuck, you ignorant people make me sad. They even put a mechanism for "resetting" the government in the fucking Constitution, it's called a constitutional convention, and there is a PROCESS for it that doesn't fucking involve armed revolt, retard.
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>>678228511
its not our country anymore OP, not sure where you have been the last 10 years. have you seen mexifornia? mexizona? mexas? mew mexico? cubida? somaligan? america has been 3rd world country for at least 5 years now
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>>678251340
>not racist
Wait, who said that policy ISN'T racist. Produce a quote from any elected official on the liberal end that defends race-based immigration laws from ANY country, please.

I swear, you people just make shit up and pretend it's fact.
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>>678251398
>Look in the Federalist Papers
the Federalist Papers only dealt with the provisions of the constitution prior to its ratification
the writers had nothing to say about any amendments because they were a non-issue unless the constitution was ratified
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>>678247772
You're an idiot. I'm guessing your referring to the fact that certain towns and cities made you check your guns before entering the town - basically, no carry. However, even in those towns you could still keep a gun in your home, so the laws were much like many states of today. And outside of those specific towns and cities (the vast majority of the land out there) it was anything goes.

I suggest that maybe you should actually pick up a book you arrogant dimwit.
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>>678251666
Trips checked. The only thing I have to say about your post is that most Mexicans from Texas hate Mexicans from Mexico. They're all for strict border laws and all that shit.
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>>678251223
>My analogy is fine but yours is not because reasons.

Okay.
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>>678251398
A well regulated MILITIA, being necessary TO THE SECURITY OF THE FREE STATE (notice how the word "slave" is never used), the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
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>>678251296
>bernie's supporters are all white

Bernie won EVERY demographic in 6 of the last 7 states. Minorities and women included.
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wetback spics + dykes + faggotrash + mental illness tranny traps 4 TRUMP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mnaL5Adbao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj1XOPgWB-4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUozYwjLxrE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owj2enSWTSY
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>>678244538
Look at the violent assaults per 100k. The map will look vey different.

No shit there will be more fun attacks where guns are more prevalent. I'm
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>>678251863
LOL I went to high school with the kid on the left. He was a total tool. He was a year or two younger than me so I had limited experience with him but I've heard a ton of stories about him that confirm my suspicions
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>>678250826
Media manipulation Is real - if you aren't aware enough to notice how rigged and skewed coverage is of different candidates and timing of different hot topics throughout the election years then you are either dense as fuck, or simply a little too young (which isn't your fault if that's the case).

Consider this - there is ALWAYS a distraction candidate. Always. It's always someone who lasts up through to june. They are always in juxtaposition to whoever the big outsider candidate is in relation to party nomination.

Consider all so why else trump would be so outspoken vehemently towards racist redneck bullshit, when in the past you never see him talk like that. Why the change? It's not like the redneck vote is big enough of a demographic to help him get elected through simply constituencies.

Look at the demagoguery going on from trump. Why? Because it keeps the two main parties reps from having to do it.

Just use your head, there won't be a paper trail for this sort of thing ... especially now thanks to super pacs.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7S5eXuE7p0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs1i1YDNSxc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHDg_K-3gas
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>>678251789
I'd imagine he's pointing out how the vast majority of people have no idea that any race based immigration laws exist outside of Trump's vision. Also, so many idiotic liberals praise China because they're too dumb to know China hasn't been communist since Deng took over, and that their two attempts at real communism ended with tens of millions of people starving to death.
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>>678231664
HAHA what utter bullshit, it's like there's no end to the delusion...
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>>678251863
>>678252453
I can post his info if anyone wants proof
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>>678251398
You're retarded if you actually think the 2nd amendment was written with slavery in mind. Slavery for the US didn't become a hotbed issue until almost 90 years later after the bill of rights was penned.
Please, for the love of God, don't procreate.
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>>678251398
not the guy you replied to, but you are creating your own history. the second amendment was considered redundant, along with the entire bill of rights, by the majority of the drafters of the constitution. but a large group of anti federalists who were weary of creating a strong government that could end up becoming just as oppressive as the british monarchy. they were afraid the president would become king. they insisted on its inclusion before ratification. the 'states' or colonies already had their own constitutions with outlined bills of rights. in fact, NORTHERN colonies were the most aggressive in insuring personal freedoms including the right to bear arms.

you either are full troll or obviously didnt read anything you claim to have read
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>>678252121
I just explained precisely how, so unless you actually have a point to make to defend your analogy or demonstrate exactly how "my" comparison isnt logically sound (i didnt post it), why even bother responding? To let me know you just think my logic is "unfair?" Seriously, critical thinking should be required for all prospective voters.
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>>678247629
when life imitates art.
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>>678252307
I know what it says, retard. I also know that the SCOTUS ruled, not once, but 3 times, that there was no individual right to own a gun, all the way up till the conservative-stacked court changed the interpretation... in 2012.

So the Supreme Court got it wrong (including only 17 years after the Bill of Rights was rattified) for 230 years, but then the NRA approved Bush appointees suddenly know better?

Yeah, okay.

Read this, and rethink your stupidity.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/opinion/2013/02/12/a-grammar-lesson-for-gun-nuts-second-amendment-does-not-guarantee-gun-rights/33796/
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>>678251964
whats wrong with being a cuck this day in age? whites had their age of superiority, its time to let the 3rd world races have a shot at the wealth
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>>678251398
http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/history/the-founding-fathers-on-the-second-amendment
>“Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!”
George Mason, co-author of the Second Amendment
>“That a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural and safe defense of a free state; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that, in all cases, the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power
– Virginia Declaration of Rights, June 12, 1776
>“No free government was ever founded, or ever preserved its liberty, without uniting the characters of the citizen and soldier in those destined for the defense of the state…such area well-regulated militia, composed of the freeholders, citizen and husbandman, who take up arms to preserve their property, as individuals, and their rights as freemen.”
– Richard Henry Lee, State Gazette (Charleston), September 8, 1788

There are too many to quote so I'll stop there, and that it's easy to say you're a fucking idiot making shit up.
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>>678252838
No, you asserted it, and gave coherent reason.

Your assertion that something is so is not a valid reason.
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>>678249682
Jim Webb? Never heard of him.
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>>678253001
Remember the part about out-of-context quotes? I already addressed that, retard.
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>>678231696
All i see here is just one more reason to ban niggers fam
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>>678253001
pretty sure hes a state-sponsored poster trying to indoctrinate uneducated youth with revisionist history.google psyops
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>>678253138
But you still haven't demonstrated how, and that responsibility is on you, since you are the one arguing against me. If you don't have an argument, there is no shame in admitting your ignorance and then committing to learn more so you don't look like an asshat again in the future.
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>>678252634
James Allsup, He's from Washington
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>>678252966
>I also know that the SCOTUS ruled, not once, but 3 times, that there was no individual right to own a gun.
You must have missed the last one.
The 18th century was like the wild west for punctual grammar and the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence are riddled with incorrect punctuation.
The Constitution is also known as a living document which means that it changes with the times and can never be outdated. Hence why we have amendments and cases regarding interpretation.
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