He wont raise minimum wage

>>678038991
He's not a woman

so i can have a job other than mcdonalds (just got out of college) dont want to take welfare like a little shit

>>678039384
what makes you think you would qualify for welfare?

>>678038991
cause the other choices are god's chosen, merkel 1.5. and joo that'll be luck not to die on natural causes during his first term. i don't like trump either but when the choice is crazy fuck, giant douche, shit sandwich and a Pentecostal, ill go with crazy fuck every time.

Because I'm a nationalist, and while Trump isn't fully redpilled, at least he wants to send the Mexicans and Muslims back and close the borders. So it's a start. Also, he's protectionist.

>>678038991
op is retarded

>>678038991
some men just want to watch the world burn

>>678039578
sanders is only ~5 years older than trump or clinton.

>>678039578
What about John Kasich?

>>678039384
so how does trump decimating the economy help you get a job?

>>678040261
>Decimating the economy
>Spending trillions on menial things isn't going to hurt the economy

>>678040096
Literally only in the race so that the RNC can Jew Trump out of the nomination.

>>678040261
Why do you explain how he will ruin the economy. Sanders is the one who thinks he can give everyone free money.

>>678039130
that alone give me an erection.
>>678039919
you must be talking about sanders right?

>>678040429
deporting 11 million+ immigrants BY ITSELF would do serious damage to the economy. even if we ignore the loss of labor (enjoy paying 5 bucks for an apple), how much do you think it will cost to round up and deport that many people?

let's not even get started on his retarded trade policy.

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>>678039578
>south park reference

>>678040822
>deporting 11 million+ immigrants BY ITSELF would do serious damage to the economy
no

>>678040886
I can see you've put some serious thought into this

>>678040558
He can and will. Take it from the rich. I do good on 30k ayear. Anyone who makes more is greedy

>>678040822
That wouldn't do shit to the economy, that would open up thousands of part-time jobs for honest white people

>>678040822
So the unemployed americans will then get to work. That is a good thing idiot

>>678040558

>le free money meme

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It don't matter. None of this matters.

>>678038991
because he'll make America great again

>>678041056
>even if we ignore the loss of labor
read

and p.s. - you're wrong. "honest white people" (because those are the only americans?) aren't going to pick fruit in the hot sun for less than minimum wage

>>678038991
Making America great again faggot! Get with it

>>678038991
because he is truly the president America deserves.

>>678040886
>2016
>still believe immigration is bad

>>678041178
Free college would make a bachelor's degree as useful as an expired coupon

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>>678038991
Nationalism
Isolationism
Noncuckery
Liberal tears
Pro isreal but anti Palestinian genocide
Liberal tears
Good healthcare reform
Simplified tax plan
Liberal tears

>>678041056
lol "honest" white people would rather get drunk off their ass and live on the streets than to do hard labor.

>>678041165

You fucking retard.

Those Americans picking apples will now have to be paid at least minimum wage, with labor law required benefits (like vacations and insurance) and all associated employer-paid taxes like SUTA, FUTA, SSNA, etc that employers didn't have to worry about when hiring $3/hour illegals.

Price of agricultural commodities is going to skyrocket based on labor costs alone.

>>678041349
I was implying those are the only Americans that matter, but yes

>>678041366
There's nothing wrong with whites and certain Asians immigrating.
Brown people are another story.

>>678041366
Back to Sweden ahmed
t. >>>/Pol/

>>678041349
You are really an idiot arent you. First they would HAVE to pay minimum wage. 2nd there are plenty of americans that would. Your argument is based on false assumtions

>>678041366
>Current year
>Doesn't realize how damaging millions of illegal immigrants leeching off of the economy whilst paying no taxes is

>>678041492
So libtards support slavery.... interesting.....

>>678041461
That's a nigger

>implying any of the extremists are worth voting for

>>678041424
>pro israel
>noncuck
Pick one and only one. Other than that I agree with you entirely.

>>678041530
>>678041056
>>678040886

See >>678041492

>>678041655

I'm a libertarian, you cuckservative dipshit.

Read an economics textbook someday

>>678041349
>less than minimum wage
jewish business owner detected.makes money off his employee doesn't want to pay him a livable wage.

>>678041492
>want illegals to under pay and over work
>calls trump racist
>doesnt realize thats slavery

>>678038991

Because you speak above a 4th grade level.
Because you're not a nigger.
Because you don't want a jew for president.
Because Donald is the most Alpha male God has gifted to the USA

>>678041492
Or maybe machines will replace people

>>678041530
>First they would HAVE to pay minimum wage
NO FUCKING SHIT

that's why the prices on goods would skyrocket, dipshit

>>678041730
>more Americans employed in exchange for higher food prices
I'm okay with this. Axe corn subsidies and fund actual staples like wheat and milk if it gets bad enough.

>>678041730
OH NO, PEOPLE MAKING A DECENT LIVING
WHAT AN AWFUL THING

>>678038991
what part of making america great again do you think you will hate the most you commie scum

>>678041492

If your picking apples, you're a dumb nigger, and you deserve it.

>>678041880
want has nothing to do with it. that's the reality, right now. you want to deport those immigrants? be prepared for commodity prices to skyrocket.

>>678038991
He's not a Democrat

>>678041655
Well whatever you morons call your selves these days its still slavery.

>>678041880

Call it slavery it whatever the fuck you want, but it's the reason you're not paying $7 an apple today from your local grocer.

>>678041913

That will raise costs either way and be more expensive in the long term if you account for the new tax laws regarding depreciation of fixed assets. Also, more unemployment, retard.

>>678042068
If you don't know the difference between "your" and "you're", you're the idiot.

>>678038991
Because I don't want to vote for a flip-floppity criminal, or a cuck.

>>678041492
>anti trump because immigrants provide cheap labor
>supports sanders for 15 dollar minimum wage
Logic

>>678041672
He agrees that isreal has a right to exist but has called them out several times on their policys regarding the Gaza strip and wants to accelerate a armastance.

>>678042206
this. and we're not even discussing the strain on immigration courts or the economic cost of the roundup and deportation operations.

if you think it's a good plan, you're too dumb to vote. please stay at home in november.

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>be me
>Wisconsin primary happened yesterday, live in Milwaukee
>go to college
>have been getting calls from Bernie supporters everyday, so fucking annoying. Even have people add me on facebook so that they can message me and tell me the good word of the church of Bernie
>Every day at school people handing out Bernie flyers, flyers all over cafeteria tables. Cant escape
>polisci major, so its probably worse than for most others, many womyns studies minor/majors

>anyway so I get the bright idea to bring my Trump hat to school for primary day
>sitting in classroom, waiting for class to start when a student in Bernie shirt goes up to the front of the class to prothlesize
"Bernie, 1% BLM billionaire healthcare free college 77 cents on the dollar" she says with her plunger cunt mouth
>I grab the hat out of my backpack and put on my head
>MAKE AMERICA GREAT
>the white florescent bulbs project a beautiful white light that reflects off the whiteness of my hat
>I stand up and two latinos get a glimpse of the hat, run out faster than speedy gonzalez
>Black bitch in class gets offended by the beautiful whiteness of the hat, gets on her knees and begs for mercy
>Bernie cunt starts weeping as she has been triggered. Her asshole moistens preparing for my donald trump powered cock to blister and cauterize her shitter
>Donald Trump bursts into the room and fires everyone
>gives me a small loan of a million dollars

>lolbertarians
The free market will fix it, goy! Globalism is good for you!

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>>678042068
>"your"
Dumb nigger

>>678038991
many americans have no sense of the ridiculous
they genuinely dont realise when something or someone is comedy tier ludicrous

>>678042384

Where did I say I support Sanders?

Do Trumptards really not know how to read?

>>678042109
If it makes america great again then ok by me

>>678042384
>anti-trump because his plan to deport 11 million immigrants would drive us directly into a recession
ftfy

>>678038991
You could have a concussion and wouldn't be able to read the ballot properly.
Or you could be an immature man-child.

>>678041252
>Implying opinions aren't atoms as well.

>>678042599
if greatness is defined by a massive recession, then yeah, america will be great. so fucking great.

>>678042206
You do realize apples are picked by machines right? Then boxed up by machines. Got a few people for quality control but most of it is machines.

>>678042743
opinions are energy

>>678042427
Made me laugh lol

>>678042873
All things are energy. Or if you want to get technical, all things are just vibrations within a field.

>>678042581
So who do you support

>>678043035
except atoms

>>678042581
He was giving you the benefit of the doubt, anon
But now we all know you're worse than what we first thought

>>678042747
> doesnt realize we are currently in a recession as we speak

>>678042206
I can go to an apple orchard and pick a basket of apples for $15 you dumb spic

>>678043093
Them too. Particles aren't material the way we think of things being material. But we represent them that way because it's easier to wrap our heads around.

>>678043090
not him, but why does it matter? can you not defend trump's policies without knowing who anon is voting for?

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>>678038991
it turns out,
everybody hates mexicans.

>>678041492
>Companies should be allowed to break the law as long as I get cheap shit

>>678042206
You googling the apple picked by macines? Its true. Maybe you should learn something about the economy before you spew utter BS

>>678043305
didn't know this. thanks for the info.

>>678043218
We're not actually. Trump can get us there real quick though.

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>>678040822
>Implying every single one of those 11+ million ILLEGAL immigrants works picking crops.

>>678043319
Because im sure your a fucking hypocrite

>>678038991
Because they're American

>>678043406
you can replace apple with strawberry or whatever other crop requires intense manual labor. his argument is unaffected. he threw out the first fruit that came to mind, and you're actually making the argument about apples instead of the legitimacy of the economic policy.

nigga, u dum

>>678043493
>implying I implied something that I did not imply
gg retard

>>678043516
my a fucking hypocrite?

People don't realize how economically devastating a sudden mass deportation could be

>11 million workers gone
>their kids are still citizens so they get to stay, but without parents
>millions of kids are now wards of the state, huge taxpayer drain
>court system and ICE tied up with deportation proceedings
>illegals in their jobs replaced by citizens who are entitled to 3x the pay and other employer provided benefits
>cost of training and adjusting new employees to their jobs
>commodity prices now go up, consumers are angry
>buying practices of poor and lower middle income households affected

There are too many externalities.

They should do a slow gradual deportation and/or repatriation and/or naturaliztion instead.

>>678041039
Bait

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>>678041999
nice trips

>>678043470
Umm actually yes we are. Unemployment is sky hi, the real unemployment not the guberments cooked books #s. Gdp is sluggish, underemployment is all time high. Lowest labor participation since 60s. Every economic indicator is poor

>>678043713
>memes
Nice argument

>>678038991
>unironically vote

>>678043758
>Oh look you didnt capitlize your sentance. Guess you're just as bad with grammer.

>>678040822
Unemployed americans would get jobs and we wouldn't be giving welfare to illegals. How would that decimate the economy?

>>678043838
stop being dumb

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/25/no-were-not-in-a-recession-corporate-america.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/09/25/americans-think-were-in-a-recession-theyre-wrong-but-still/
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/03/14/people-think-were-in-a-recession-dont-blame-them/?_r=0

>>678043887
I'm responding to le cuck memeface greentext me-me, I don't think it requires an actual rebuttal.

>>678044073
Oh look cant debate my facts so you link to other articles no one will read

>>678044068

See >>678043814
and >>678041492

>>678044067
>doesn't know what grammar is

>>678040535
This is good, but kiiiiinda unconstitutional and an example of government overpowering the people through the electoral college again.

>>678038991
To make America great again.

>>678044073
Google it and google says we are so

>>678041624
How are they leeching off the economy? They're getting shit pay for shit jobs that whites think they're too good for, just to stay alive.

>>678044286
Where in the Constitution does it say that?

>>678044246
>oh look can't argue with actual economists and experts so poo poo on your actual fucking articles.
cut your losses, you're wrong on this one.

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I'm convinced truly rational discourse is almost impossible because ~95% of people can't separate opinions from identity.

What is so hard about having a discussion and not tying your opinions to who you are as a person? It makes it really hard to discuss foreign/economic/social policy when a person takes criticism of an idea as a criticism of who they are.

I feel like a fucking alien sometimes.

>>678044430
I did google it. It says we are not. Read recent articles gay boy.

>>678044286
That is literally gibberish. You don't know what a primary is, how it works, who runs it, who it applies to, what the electoral college is, or what the constitution says.

Please stop pretending you understand these things and making grand pronouncements about how this and that are "unconstitutional."

Love,
Lawyer with a degree in government.

>>678044279
Can't debate facts, points out spelling errors and grammatical errors to sound smart.

>>678044656
right. I can't debate sound facts like "ur a fucken hippercrit"

anon plz

>>678042427
it was your privilege

>>678044742
I agree completely

>>678043516
>>678043758
>>678044067
This is the fucking best. My sides have ascended to a new level of "grammer".

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>>678044541
So please elaborate on what economic factors point to us not being in one. Unless you can elaborate shut the fuck up

>>678044067
>capitlize
>sentance
>grammer

>>678043327
I have Mexican neighbors and they're really nice people. I'd still would like to live by other white people though.

>>678040886
Listen to all these idiots talk about economics as if they finished high school

99% of Trump supporters are retards

>>678044992
the articles I posted EXPLAIN EXACTLY why it SEEMS like we are in a recession to the uneducated, and how we are in fact NOT IN A RECESSION.

Nothing more needs to be said. I'm not wasting my time quote mining articles that you have access to.

>>678041672
Israeli jews ≠ American jews you retard

>>678041957
>Thinking that the cost of fruit-picking is a significant % of the cost of fruit.
>Thinking that raising the cost of fruit-pickers by a few dollars an hour will have a significant impact on prices.

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Can't we all just get along? Pic meant for funnies, not offend.

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If Trump gets elected it will be by the same "we just want something different" principle that got Obama elected but for white people this time.

>>678045379
plane janes at the bottom

>>678041492
People get paid under the table all the time who are not illegal immigrants. Stop being naive.

>>678045261
Well i explained why we are in one. Because someone that is in bed withthe government says we arent doesnt make it so. You cant elaborate because you dont understand economics. I do. We are in and headed towards a bad recession.

He's not a racist.

His tax plan is by far the best.

He's going to fix trade.

He's going to fix illegal immigration.

He's going to destroy political correctness.

Every other candidate is terrible.

He's not homophobic.

He's not sexist.

Those are my reasons.

>>678045261
Ok sanders supporter

>>678045918
There's nothing wrong with political corectness to a certain extent

The extreme tranny acceptance is taking it too far, but only a dumb redneck would have a problem with not being able to say blatantly racist things in public without social backlash

>>678045918
>He's going to make things good.

Interesting points, anon.

>>678043838
This guy thinks the only stage in the business cycle is "normal" and "recession".
Fucking pleb
Have you not checked the S&P 500?

>>678046151
I can elaborate on any point you want.

>>678046234
just let him think he's right
it's all he has

>>678038991
Because Hillary was the alternative. that would be the only reason a rational human would vote for Trump

>>678038991
to see what happens

People only like Trump because he's edgy

>>678041252

what about photons

radio waves?

this image is retarded

>>678046142
Sjw's need to be stopped. People will call you racist, sexist, or homophobic for no reason.

This is exactly what the media is doing to Trump.

>>678045918
Are you insane?
What part of denying travel for all muslims is not racist?

tax plan:
According to an analysis by the Tax Policy Center, the top 0.1 percent of taxpayers — a group that includes those with incomes over $3.7 million — would receive an average tax cut of $1.3 million under Trump’s plan. Those in the bottom 20 percent of income, meanwhile, would receive an average tax cut of $128. Overall, 35 percent of the benefits of Trump’s tax cuts go to the top 1 percent of earners.

Fix immigration by building a fucking wall?

>>678046234
>>678046399
No wonder why we are in the fucking mess we are in, its idiots like you. The other anon is right. We are headed towards a recession. Yes not ALL economists agree but they never agree. But honestly interest rates have been way to low for too long. They are one of the few things keeping the stagnent market afloat right niw, but it cant hold forever. Bubbles got to burts.

>>678046777
But /b/ is blatantly racist and sexist, I would say homophobic but this place is filled with tranny loving faggots. I don't agree with the SJWs who take it too far but it's reasonable to call someone like Donald Trump a racist.

>>678039760

came here to post this

he's a mercantilist and a nationalist and he isn't going to destroy america with foreign wars and excessive globalization

>>678046777
Agree about the sjws but still don't think trump is fit for leadership
And checked

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>>678038991
Voting doesn't change things so we might as well get some dank meemees out of the whole charade

>>678038991
>Give me one good reason

Mudslimes (national security). That's the only reason I'm voting for him.

>>678046966
>We are headed towards a recession
headed
towards

where does that put us right now?

>>678039760
muh redpill

>>678047135
It's more a red medicine course that Trump stopped halfway through.

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>>678047093
>>678047093
The current year

>>678046966
Low interest rates are not a bad thing, encouraging lending will grow businesses, businesses grow the economy.
We are in a slow recovery because of the banking reforms that took place after 2008

>>678045918
His tax plan was projected to increase the budget deficit more than any other candidate's.

>>678041624
this is the kind of retarded shit that reeks of trump supporters. you have an entire group of people getting paid wages the average american wouldn't stand for allowing companies to keep a decent profit margin. Then using that money to sustain themselves and buy goods that gets funneled back into the economy. people don't realize how much shits going to get fucked up when you take away an entire shadow economy that allows allot of companies to scrape by and compete with off shore labor. cut tax loop holes that allow for off shore tax avoidance, and reinstate glass steagall. that will do a hell of allot more then building a wall and being xenophobic

>>678039919
Bernie's slogan is literally "feel the Bern"

>>678038991

why would anyone unironically not vote for Trump?

>hardmode, give a valid reason

>>678046895
Ban group of people who are known terrorsist until we can vet them is not racist its smart.

When you cut a % people that make shitnget shit. People who make more get more. 1% cut to someone who makes 10,000 a year is 100 bucks. 1% of someone who makes 1,000,000 a year is 10,000. Of course they get more. They also PAY more

>>678047093
In a downward spiral.

>>678046895
>banning adherents of a hostile ideology is racist
ayy

>>678047366
They are good for borrowers but mean the economy is sluggish

Whats funny is that all you fucking faggots think any of the presidential candidates are worth anything.

Trump is too extreme.
Sanders is a fucking socialist fuck who wants to take money from people who actually earn it and give it to no good niggers and crack mommies,
Hillary is a fucking traitor and a cunt.

Trump is the only person I would even consider voting for due to his business prowess.

>>678047748
Saying that Islam is a "hostile ideology" because of terrorists is like saying Christianity is a "hostile ideology" because of the Crusades.

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>>678047277
For shame. That's how redpill-resistant bacteria are created.

>>678047491
He can't unilaterally cut taxes with the current deficit without risking America's credit rating. If someone has to pay more it should be the people who can afford to.

I hate welfare faggots as much as the next person, but super rich are benefiting from a lot of advantages (like moving money to avoid taxes) and they should pay for it.

>>678047444
>Reddit: the presidential campaign

>>678047376
First his plan nor anyone elses will ever or has ever got put in place as they campaign. 2nd those projections are never right. Third who cares. We are fucked financially

>>678048070
Fair enough

and the best reason to vote for Trump:

some people want to create change and disrupt the system.

These people are dumb and angry. They don't realize that it won't work. They don't realize that Trump would be less effective than Jimmy Carter was, and for the same reason.

But they will vote for him anyway because when you are dumb and angry you don't think about history.

>>678047748
Sure it might be safe, but it actually is racist and totally unconstitutional

>>678047093
a recession is expected yes but its because of artificial inflation. its not going to be nearly as bad as it was before. and frankly i know i stand to make allot of money on it. if your smart you can to. but thats the thing. this shit is cyclical. and until banking gets some real regulation this will continue happening.

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>>678048070
>We are fucked financially

Wonder why?

>>678047847
this

>>678047844
Right, it is sluggish. But it is recovering

>>678048029
I agree with remove tax loopholes but you wont get economic growth with high taxes. Plus we are in too much debt to ever get out of, we have 100 trillion in unfunded liabilities. No tax increase will ever make that up. Cutting is the only hope. Taxes, spending etc

>>678048278
ye tbh i think him getting into power highlights the ridiculousness of someone like him being able to get into power

also i want to see an assassination in my lifetime

>>678048325
Where in Constitution?

>>678047434
this guy gets it

>>678038991
Because liberals are spineless cunts?

>>678047969
render unto caesar

>>678048410
>doesnt realize obama literally doubled the national debt in just his term. Also recession was caused mostly by housing bubble created by guberment before your scapegoat was even in office

>>678048325
>but it actually is racist

Nope, it's being a realist.

>>678048332
>i stand to make allot of money on it. if your smart you can to.

>>678047434

why do you retards think mexicans get paid significantly less than the average american? i live in southern california the mecca of illegals and liberals alike and all of them get paid the same as a white would, at worst they dont get paid as much when working an above minimum wage job but there are plenty of americans who would take that for the same pay as long as it got them working.

its hard enough to compete with baby boomers who cant retire its even worse to have to compete with a group that has the "i can speak beaner" advantage too.

also undocumented illegals arent paying taxes so they are literally getting the same pay while having all the benefits of said taxes.

>>678048513
Freedom of religion?
This is assuming they are citizens, he can block visas all he wants

>>678048436
Cept its not. Name 1 indicator that shows recovery

>>678047376
http://taxfoundation.org/article/details-and-analysis-senator-bernie-sanders-s-tax-plan

do some research first

Senator Sanders (I-VT) would enact a number of policies that would raise payroll taxes and individual income taxes, especially on high-income households.

Senator Sanders’s plan would raise tax revenue by $13.6 trillion over the next decade on a static basis. However, the plan would end up collecting $9.8 trillion over the next decade when accounting for decreased economic output in the long run.

A majority of the revenue raised by the Sanders plan would come from a new 6.2 percent employer-side payroll tax, a new 2.2 percent broad-based income tax, and the elimination of tax expenditures relating to healthcare.

According to the Tax Foundation’s Taxes and Growth Model, the plan would significantly increase marginal tax rates and the cost of capital, which would lead to 9.5 percent lower GDP over the long term.

On a static basis, the plan would lead to 10.56 percent lower after-tax income for all taxpayers and 17.91 percent lower after-tax income for the top 1 percent. When accounting for reduced GDP, after-tax incomes of all taxpayers would fall by at least 12.84 percent.

>>678046895
Muslim is not a race. Are you one of this people that days "it's a religion of peace!" ?

>>678048756
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/01/07/the-story-behind-obama-and-the-national-debt-in-7-charts/

>>678048846
But they aren't. Therefore completely constitutional.

>>678048706
Best guess: You're implying the Crusades were political and not religious, but that ISIS is religious and not political?

>>678048797
Realist doesn't mean not racist

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>>678047969
>something happening at this moment is equivalent to something that happened hundreds of years ago

>>678048325
>an ideology is a race

>>678048942
Just like enacting thee affordable care act would lower the cost of health insurance?

>>678048756
he stopped the hemorrhaging. it wasn't perfect but it was a hell of allot better then bush did in getting it there.