Political Compass Thread
Do It Here: http://www.politicalcompass.org/
Post the image OR state which box your in (pic related)
Then discuss which boxes in pic related you like and dislike.
I'm an Activist.
I dislike Communists and Socialists.
I like Liberals, Progressives, and Libertarians.
ok
>>678015415
Your a bit shit aren'tcha
>>678015592
nope
>>678014395
From what I recall, I've pretty much always landed on "Democratic Socialism".
Figures, since I am from a Nordic country after all.
>>678015738
>archaic socialism
>not shit
Yeah, that isn't quite how it works...some people do work harder than others, you know?
Whatever, there's worse that you could be. Like a statist, for example.
>>678016103
Some people do work harder than others, and some people get treated unfairly. There is no such thing as a perfect society. I am mostly over there for my stance on the environment.
>>678014395
Fixed it for you
>>678016488
Some people do get treated unfairly. Some choose not to give a shit. You gotta weed 'em out. And sometimes, there is no saving some of those poor souls.
A perfect society does exist though. The one where we're all dead can't go wrong, because nobody can make any problems anymore. Not a great alternative, but it's there.
Liberalism...
>>678017485
>>678017381
I would rather help the unfairly treated than to weed out the leeches.
>>678017632
I'm not a fucking libtard
>>678017942
>>678017485
I guess you vote for the majority party every time, right? If so, it's not a bad thing. Just a boring thing. God bless you.
>>678017207
Yeah, we'll use this instead. If you're down there, you're a tumblrina.
>>678017711
These leeches are against treating the unfairly fairly, though. You might wanna look at trying to get rid of them the best you can.
Being this far left means there is no incentive to work anymore, since you'll just get enough money from the state, you can stop giving a fuck. Then nobody works. Then the economy fails.
Huh, thought I'd be farther right...
Well, fuck me...
>>678018075
I really don't consider myself a part of any political party. I pick and choose what I personally believe to be right from either side.
I believe homosexuals who are happy and loving have a right to own kids while some straight couples beat the living shit out of their unwanted children. Besides, homosexuals don't have to worry about unwanted children.
However I believe abortion is fucked up 90% of the time. Only when it is guaranteed that the child could kill the mother/is guaranteed to be mentally handicapped beyond rehabilitation/is the product of rape.
I can already feel the heat from the flame war that's about to begin.
>>678018075
That's not a very progressive way to look at things, IMO. I believe that people want to work for each other, and work for themselves as well. And the leeches are hard to get rid of. And another thing. I'm not a tumblrina. I think that the so called ''feminists'' should go down to the countries where there actually are problems with sexism.
>>678016094
Sweet, I found my old test result!
>>678018075
>Being this far left means there is no incentive to work anymore, since you'll just get enough money from the state, you can stop giving a fuck. Then nobody works. Then the economy fails.
Biggest load of right-wing tripe I've heard today. Good job anon.
well...
>>678014395
>>678018813
HEIL HITLER!
>>678018919
Thanks. I do like Adolf Hitler.
>>678018709
Oh right. That's cool.
>>678018729
It's not a progressive way, no. But you've got to realize that people aren't this nice. People don't want to work for one another in the real world a lot of the time. Sadly, they just want a pay check and nothing else. It sucks, I know, but there isn't anything we can do.
>>678018765
This isn't an argument, and I'm not right wing. If everyone gets equal pay, some people are gonna slack off, and some people are going to work harder than one another. Then it'll loop back and be unfair.
>>678018813
You would hate me so much.
>>678019209
>>678014395
this is on point
>>678014395
>activism
Yea pretty sure that's not centrist-liberal, but leftist-liberal and rightist liberal.
>>678014395
Oh shit I got democratic socialist. I'm a bit surprised aince I chose most of the "racist" options.
>>678014395
Social liberalism ftw.
This is where I'm at
Not awful. Pretty moderate.
I would consider myself an anarcho-socialist. Ultimately though, I am a cynic, and don't think this is a viable option in the next hundred years. I would be happy enough if Sanders became president.
>>678017381
A perfect society is possible but it will never happen, so we settle
>>678019438
But i think people CAN be this nice, now i'm smart enough to realize that i am an idealist, and that's not very smart in a political sense, but i truly believe in a cultural reformation, where people WANT to work for each other.
>>678019438
Why? Are you a jew?
Social Democratism, bordering Dem-Socialism and Left Libertarianism.
Similar to >>678019386
>>678018512
How are you not below the horizontal axis? You better not be religious
>>678018765
Have you ever worked on a group project where there's a set grade, meaning the project's grade is automatically the one for every individual?
Welcome to the least productive and most unfair system imaginable.
>>678019785
That makes you more authoritarian, not right. Common misconception, you probably ended up in the right place. If you disagree with it though, that's alright.
>>678019665
No, it means you're a centrist when it comes to the economy (some intervention is good, some isn't, depends etc.) and you're a libertarian when it comes to social values (should be free to do what I want, no interference, private life etc.)
>>678017207
>>678019438
This one's easier to understand
>>678020265
Kill yourself friend
>>678020265
Exact same spot, see >>678015415
>>678020542
That's what the box means. The box has the wrong label, is what I was trying to say.
>>678014395
All you authoritarians can go fuck your own assholes.
>>678020623
Wow. My parents never DID spank me... I had no idea that it formed my political outlook, until I saw this chart. Mind = blown
>>678020623
>everyone is an idiot
>nobody is correct
I like your image. Appereantly I never got spanked by my parents.
>>678020995
Go back to niggerland, jewish scum.
>>678018709
Agree with you on everything but the abortion part. If the kid is gonna be born to two teenagers who can't afford to give it a proper existence then abortion makes sense in my opinion. You make the argument about it being mentally handicapped, but what if the situation it would have to born into will mentally fuck it anyway? First trimester is a bundle of cells, nothing more. You commit a worse act by accidentally running over a squirrel
>>678020623
This is a bad attempt at humour, but sure. At least it's realistic.
>>678020377
We never settle. Well, sorta.
>>678020419
Not going to happen too soon. Somebody is always going to be unhappy, friendo. There isn't anything you or I can do, because opinions.
>>678020461
I'm not a Jew. I'm gay actually.
>>678020756
Ah right, I got you now.
>>678020265
>anarcho-socialist
>everybody contributes equally to everybody else but there is no government/law enforcement compelling them to do so
Yes, it would be nice if the world was a baby's cartoon
>>678021300
The Alternative in Denmark is doing a pretty good job though.
>>678014395
I'm whatever this means. What does this mean?
>>678021553
You are not helping one bit, you fucking degenerate.
>>678014395
The ironic part: I think Sanders sucks
>>678021593
It means I'm fucking Ghandi...
>>678021553
the only thing keeping it from being that way is the dogmatic belief that it can't be.
>>678021593
Social Democrat. Meh.
>>678020542
I'd say I ended up in the right place. Socialists in my country are a lot more about worker rights and class iuasues rather than sjw bullshit.
>>678021951
I wish I understood what any of this means. I'm gonna vote for the one with the nicest face.
>>678020623
>1984 was an instruction manual
Kek
>>678021729
I apologize for being realistic, is that too difficult for you to accept? Your ideal system is a fantasy. I'm still for Bernie over the others but you have to be feasible
>>678021907
No, the only thing keeping it from being that way is human nature
When I joined the JuicyDroopers.Org it cost me $19.99 for 300 pics of mature juicy droopers a month, and for a while, everything was going to plan. But then I noticed that some of the goddesses did not have juicy droopers. That had banana ramps or jabba cones. So wrote the admin, making a complaint. My complaint was ignored, so I posted a message on Juicy Drooper Chat saying, "Is anybody tired of pics of goddesses that don't have juicy droopers?" Right away, I got dozens of replies. I knew that the community was pretty angry, and I figured the admin would see this and fix the situation. But nothing changed. I would have simply quit the site, except a lot of the pics were of juicy droopers, and they also had a feature called Exclusive Droopers, where the goddesses were especially hot. I had a choice between cutting ties or staying and fighting for what is right, and Exclusive Droopers was the decisive factor. I would stay and fight. I organized a protest in the community where we all changed our chat profile pictures to black. Nothing happened. It was like the admin didn't care at all. I called my ISP and complained. I wrote a petition on whitehouse.gov. Nothing changed. Without the threat of a boycott, we had not leverage over the admin, and the Exclusive Droopers meant we couldn't stage an effective boycott. We were stuck, until I hit on the perfect solution: a full chemical castration. Now, juicy droopers have no effect on me. I can look upon the biggest, juiciest droopers in the world, and my cock moves not one iota. I found the ultimate form of leverage.
>>678021907
It will never be like that, as nice as that would be
It would only take one person slacking off to break the entire system, that's just the way human psychology works
>>678021783
Of course. You way to the left of Sanders.
>>678021729
No. I would abuse the shit out of that system. And there wouldn't be anything you could do about it. The weak-minded will seek for leadership and I'll provide them with more than they'd have if they'd play by the "rules". I really hope you realize that in this world, the strong would eat the weak even more than in a capitalist patriarchy.
>>678021952
Not here. They're the most ignorant people I've seen, entirely receptive to new ideas. Just as well we have a few though, most people are far right capitalists who made huge cuts in welfare last year, really sucks for a lot of people.
>>678022225
You should learn. Can be interesting, and can be beneficial to you and those around you. Don't vote if you don't know, please.
Powering off for tonight, this has been very interesting though. Beginning to think that the test is a tad biased.
>>678021907
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_rider_problem
I would advise reading these. It demonstrates the human behavior around shared resources. I'm a bit cynical, but enough people are self-centered (not in an inherently negative way) that such an idealist system would have trouble on any large scale, especially across social groups.
>>678014395
Why are you so desperate to be labelled? Only in politics are these buzzwords seen as so black and white, you're either this or your that and every one of them thinks the same.
>>678022418
humans act according to how they think and everything we think is plastic.
There ya go
>>678022599
So, you're a psychopath? Good to know.
>>678021907
Let's not start about your dogmatic belief that such a system could ever work, or even should ever work.
>>678022599
#triggered
>>678022918
No.
I see opportunities, I use opportunities. You see disadvantages, you complain about them.
>>678022867
u w0t m8?
>>678022638
I'm as much of a cynic as everyone else, but just because it's idealistic doesn't mean it's not the most desirable solution, and preemptively dismissing it is a good way to make sure the future doesn't happen. I will be reading your links though.
>>678022867
You have never educated yourself in any field outside of philosophy.
I support Donald Trump
>>678023186
You would abuse the system, even though it would mean disfortune for other, innocent people.
AKA a lack of empathy.
>>678014395
r8 ?
im a trump supporter as well, strange
My graph. Interesting, but I agree with it.
>>678019438
>This isn't an argument
Never said it was.
>If everyone gets equal pay
Never said anything about equal pay.
>>678020522
Yes, it sucks.
I haven't even stated anything about my political leanings. You've just assumed that I'm some sort of SJW Communist.
Protip: Communism doesn't work.
Despite what I think would be an ideal (laissez-faire) system, I'm not stupid (or crazy) enough to think that it would actually work in reality. Man is too vicious for that.
>>678023795
>says the person using a computer likely built with child slave labor in China
If you think your behavior living in a first world country isn't fucking over somebody else across the world you're totally delusional.
>>678023662
Me too, because I'm not american and it's gonna be hilarious if he wins.
>>678023662
Why Trump rather than Clinton?
>>678019209
>>678023795
>abuse the system
Let's say I have an idea. With this idea I am the only person able to manufacture a certain item. Do I tell everyone how to manufacture said item, or do I do it and sell it? The second of course and for multiple reasons.
1. It's the best for me.
2. It's the best for everyone else.
You know why? Simple: If I can expect a lot of money, I can invest a lot into developing a product. In order to be able to make progress, there has to be a critical mass of resources. If everyone knew how to do a certain thing, that critical mass could never been reached. That's the single biggest strength of capitalism and that's where literally every other system (spared monarchies having a grip on a market and similar things) completely fail. More often than not the thing that is best for an individual is best for everyone.
Stop your collectivism, m8, you advertise for a system that benefits no one, especially not in the long run.
>>678017207
Tumblr isn't left it is apolitic hipster-nazi white-girl-problem fruity bullshit
>>678024595
But i'm not doing it that directly, and how do you know if my computer is built in china? What if i built it myself? This isn't a valid argument, as you would know fully that you were screwing somebody over.
Goodnight anon
>>678024966
>What if i built it myself?
wot
>>678024682
I like his protectionist trade policy and dont like how clinton wants to blame me (gun store salesman) if a loon shoots somebody with a gun i sold them
>>678024686
Yes, but here your not taking something from another person, your just promoting yourself. You can be richer and better of than others, as long as the others are well off as well.
>>678024966
*built using PARTS made in China
Sorry we missed that critical distinction m8.
>>678023662
Yes >>678024663
As a non American I would love to see him win too, only politician that actually makes sense. But sadly he won't win as most niggers won't vote for him. And America is basically 2nd Africa. Too many niggers there.
The UK is pretty bad as it is, but American niggers are worse.
God I wish I could be living in my nigger-free home country. Never even seen a negro before I moved to the UK.
>>678025118
I know how to build computers.
Fuck you all
>>678024172
>>678025298
the nog vote practically doesn't matter since they're almost all in the south which are republican states anyway. The self-hating white vote is getting bigger every year though and hopefully trump can put an end to it
>>678025136
Two good points. Thank you for your time.
>>678025307
>I know how to build computers
So you can create everything. Create the materials needed. Create a motherboard from scratch, a CPU etc...
Good anon. Good for you
>>678025298
i would like to see him as president too, bad thing you met the most inferior branch of humanity
>>678025307
Don't make it fucking worse for you m8.
You do realize that for fucking ceramic capacitors some niggers had to die because they constantly fight over the mines where they're bring up the resources?
No matter how small you start, you'll have blood on your hands.
The fact that you think ASSEMBLING a computer yourself would safe any nigger is just so fucking telling about your grasp on reality.
>>678024966
>>678025307
Did you harvest the copper and nickel from the Earth yourself and forge yourself a processor too? Where the fuck do you think those parts are manufactured?
>doing it directly
>I didn't personally see the kid who got whipped for taking too long to make my product so therefore it's okay!
Cognitive dissonance, my friend. Tell me when you move out into the wilderness and live off nothing but natural elements and then maybe I'll give you some credit
I have a strong dislike for authority, am I edgy yet?
>>678021783
-7.75,-4.41
I'm basically in the same place as you.
Economic Left/Right: 2.5
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.05
>>678025307
>rekted
>>678023457
How does it feel to be demonstably wrong?
I blame Canada.
Bernie's my man for sure.
>>678026726
> if you're not authoritarian, you're libertarian
So, you're either with Hitler or with Rand?
count me out
>>678025198
Maybe we started too far down the road.
>You can be richer and better of than others, as long as the others are well off as well.
This is subjective as fuck, but I share this point of view.
I have no problems with giving to the handicapped with means of a system of solidarity. But it has to have limits. It's objectively wrong to suggest that every human being is equal or worth the same. That's not the case, nor should it be. I'm pro meritocracy, pro social capitalism. I realize we'll never have perfect social capitalism, but man, even in the worst possible stable form of capitalism you're better of than in any other system.
Just to make that clear, I'm not at all implying that you share any of my beliefs or, for that matter, disagree with any of my beliefs, I just wanted to fill you in on my points of view, because we kind of skipped that step before disagreeing with oneanother.
The test is broken, I would be considered right wing by most people now a days.
>>678027074
That's how politics works, you fucking retard.
>>678027074
Ayn Rand would be right libertarian. Left libertarian is the way to go, unless you're an idiot who needs to be told what to do at all times
Voting for Trump
>>678014395
This chart is retarded.
I don't have a picture but I'm an 8 right and a -0.1 down
>>678027250
Maybe you're not as stupid as you think you are
>>678027579
It got a few discussions running though.
>>678027694
How touching, goodnight faggots o/
>>678027694
>right wing = stupid
mane, a political orientation is really the sum of its parts.
You can be pro gay rights, pro immigration, pro socialism, pro choice and hate the kikes.
You'd be, on average, a leftist, but you'd be radical right wing on the jews. A political orientation as a statement in itself is saying as much about a person as his eye color. Context matters.
between Liberalism and Social-Democracy
fuck, I ain't no god damn liberal, but I do like being gay!
>>678028609
>social-democracy
What does that even mean?
What if the majority votes against social principles?
>>678028819
Check Europe, Denmark mainly.
>>678014395
>social democratism
Yet I hate women and niggers with a burning passion
>>678028374
List of things I consider to be stupid
>Authoritarianism (aka I'm too stupid to think for myself, please tell me what to do via boots on my neck)
>Getting angry about people being a different race
>Getting angry about someone being gay/trans
Most of these are strongly associated with the right, so I typically (if maybe incorrectly) associate the right with being stupid
>>678029052
I realize there are social systems established through democratic principles, but you can't say you're pro democratic-this_or_that. It's mutually exclusive.
A democracy establishes whatever system it likes. A democracy even has the power to vote away its democratic rights (see the US). The whole point of a democracy is to NOT define a system, but build one. The second you define the purpose of a system you're acting undemocratic.
>>678029361
I can get behind that.
Although you might not like my view on gender disphoria.
>>678029361
I used to to be a bigot, I didn't see that the greatest harm was not what did personally (nothing really), but rather the fact that I didn't object to legitimately bad things being done to people I considered subhuman. (black people)
Pretty much where I expected
>>678014395
>liberals are moderates
hehe
So am I the only anarchist here?
>>678030720
Assuming you mean american liberals, yeah they are by international standards.
>>678030720
From the perspective of the entire world, they are. The US leans right.
>>678014395
>>678030933
>>678031024
hehehehehe
>>678014395
>>678029701
I argued this exact same thing in the last compass thread, but people called me stupid.
Same goes with anarchism and dictatorships.
>>678014395
>I dislike Communists and Socialists.
>I like Liberals, Progressives, and Libertarians.
Definition of a capitalist co-conspirator. You do realize that this cycle of corruption wouldn't be possible without you handing out welfare scraps from master's plate as concessions to quell revolutionary furor, don't you? The injustice, suffering, and exploitation of late-stage capitalism are as much on your head as the worst of the Trump-SS fascists.
If your commitment to democratic values ever grows stronger than your fear for your precious economic security, feel free to join the real left. Until then, you'll never be anything but a collaborator.
>g-guys let's make the world a better place
>by using nicer words for each other
>but don't do anything that might change things
>like question our economic substructure
>I might end up with less stuff
Absolutely fucking disgusting
>>678031182
> heh i was only pretending to be retarded guise =D
>>678031501
Postcapitalism when?
>>678029701
Social Democracy the way I see it and without all the theoretical crap behind it is above all a Democracy. Socialism tends to forget this. This democracy values the role of the state in giving its citizens rights considered social: eduction, health, security... on a basis that everyone contributes to it in the society through taxes. So you created a more unified society where stronger help the weaker. All this differs from Socialism, allowing at the same time private initiative. You must play your role in society (taxes), but if you want you can get al these services on the private sector.
For me it gives you the power of choice. But nonetheless you live in society and so you must contribute to a situation where everyone can start from the same starting point. But this is really utopian and really difficult to works out. But comes closer and I believe is worth trying.
But then again, only works with the commitment of everyone.
Coming from a country where Socialism battles with social democracy, I envy Scandinavian states in the society they managed to build.
I read your comment again for a fourth time. The democratic part is definition. I understand what you mean when saying democracy picks a system. But Social-Democracy is just the way it is called. Its a way of saying NSFW-Socialism.
>>678031825
When the people of the world awaken to the realities of class war and decide to emancipate themselves from all ruling classes. Long live the people's revolution, comrade!
>>678031947
I ment Softcore-Socialism
Shit didnt realise i was one of them self-hating communists.
>>678031947
>Social Democracy the way I see it and without all the theoretical crap behind it is above all a Democracy. Socialism tends to forget this.
>implying that socialists aren't for total democracy
>implying socialism isn't democracy extended beyond politics to society's economic base
>implying politics of capitalist social democracy isn't subverted by economic ruling class
>just like any other form of capitalism
Ugh, you probably think socialism = USSR, don't you?
>>678033024
Your hate should be reserved for the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, comrade. Do not fight yourself; there is no war but class war.
>>678019209
Pretty much perfectly accurate. I wouldn't go as far left as sanders, but I'm voting for the old man. The world needs more kindness.
>>678031947
So you're against a democracy. You pre-determine the outcome, i.e. you superimpose your views over everyone elses. It's fine to say that. It's however against everything I stand for, because it is, in fact, a totalitarian/authoritarian approach.
You're supporting the wrong thing for the right reasons. You want everyone to be well off, which is fine, but you want to force them to be well off by your definition and that is not.
If socialism is the result of a democracy, so be it, all the better, if it isn't, it's not within my rights to intervene.
>>678029885
That's a type of mental illness, I don't really associate it with any part of the political spectrum
>>678031143
Where are you then faggot
>>678033876
>That's a type of mental illness
Spot on, I really thought we'd differ from one another here.
> I don't really associate it with any part of the political spectrum
The regressive left as the proponents and the alt right as the opponents.
Only folks on the spectrum that care about it and they're like fire and water.
>>678031143
Accurate.
>>678033676
I will try and fight the good fight comrade.
>>678034163
Yeah I wasn't the guy you initially replied to but I agreed with all of his stuff too so I figured I'd let you know you're not alone in your gender views. And yes the left is generally more accepting but that could easily be because if you're accepting of that ridiculousness then most likely you're accepting of all that other stuff too, just a likely correlation. Anyway we concur
>>678014395
>national socialism that far left
Anyway gas the kikes race war now.
>You know there will be government for ages to come
>All the people you know cry out against corruption while begging for more government power
>You will never see a free world
I can deal with it, but I don't have to like it.
>>678034612
I see.
How about some unhealthy echochambering on that topic?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDAU3SPYFsA
Can't agree with everything on his channel, but on this matter that guy hit bullseye.
>>678034619
Spotted the faggot
>>678034522
The revolution is closer than you think; the young people have had enough and the rich will prevent the concessions of social democracy from ever returning. Capitalism will not survive. See you on the barricades, comrade.
>>678035195
Get the fuck out of here, commie. Rope day soon.
>>678035205
>>678035205
You poor deluded soul.
>This time when the young, under-performing, and idealistic band together to take control of the nation by force, it will work!
I dont really identify myself as an activist, and never would.
Fair enough
>>678026753
>demonstrably wrong
According to what macro-economic model? Because every one I've ever studied demonstrates competitive markets are the most efficient ones.
>>678035205
Thank you for the inspiring speech comrade. And yes hopefully we will meet on the barricades soon comrade.
>>678020522
I'm not that kind of parasite. I never feel comfortable working in a group unless i feel like i've contributed as much as i possibly could.
>>678035455
Yep, you'll keep fiddlin' with Nero until it's your house burning down.
>>678031792
then why post something so stupid?
lmao
LIBERALS ARE MODERATES
LMAO
>>678035927
>competitive markets
>democratic anarchy
Hey, everyone, check this guy out! He doesn't even know how feudalism works!
>>678036332
And you clearly don't understand how to read this particular political compass.
>>678036016
>I never feel comfortable working in a group unless i feel like i've contributed as much as i possibly could.
Outperform everyone else or go cuck your right hand with your left.
>>678036514
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOSHHHHH
>>678021094
kek on that bait, as if the bank owners where anarchists
>>678014395
border of
anarcho-socialist and left-libertarian
>>678022638
those phenomenons are symptoms of capitalism not human nature
>>678036027
Well you are also deluded because the majority of hardcore leftists are extremely unfit, untrained with firearms, and generally weak willed, which is why they cling to such a beta ideology.
You wouldn't be on the barricades, you would be a rotting corpse ridden with disease and maggots days before any army comes within a 3 mile radius of you.
>>678030898
anarchy = abolition of all forms of oppression. Capitalism and cultural conservatism are oppressions. There are no such thing as a right winged anarchist
r8 me boiis
>>678037455
So how do you stop individuals choosing to make a transaction that falls within the confines of "Capitalism"?
Oh that's right you fucking oppress them.
>>678037516
Would share a few beers/10.
>>678014395
>Liberalism
>Even though I think all kikes should be gassed and women should be beaten and kept at home.
>I also think that immigration is a something meant to destroy a countries culture now a days.
Kek. This shit is so fucking stupid.
>>678020623
>intellectual wasteland
>here be stoners
jesus that's accurate
I landed there, and all my similar thinking friends are philosophy majors addicted to heroin, cokehead writers "on the road"ing across america, eccentric comedians, and unstable alcoholic musicians
>>678037657
This.
The only rules are:
There are no rules.
In cases where WE find rules are necessary, WE decide.
What if a bunch of people got together, deciding it was better for them to collaborate under capitalist rules? Are the "abandon oppression" nutjobs going to step in and teach them not to rape themselves or what? Every collectivist ideology is by default oppressive.
>>678022446
keep working on it, the turn to whitehouse.gov took me out of it, made the chemical castration have less impact
I always land on Anarcho socialism, which seems to have the same problem as communism, nice in theory, but in practice wouldnt fucking work because there's nothing to make people follow it, short of some kind of theocracy that scares them into it, or force, which would defeat the point.
That is the dumbest thing I've ever fucking seen.
>activism is apparently a centrist libertarian only thing
>nationalism further left than fascism instead of vice versa
>Social democracy and democratic socialism separated for some retarded reason
>"national communism"
>National socialism way on the opposite side from Fasicsm
Holy fucking shit, all my rage
>>678037657
Depending on the form of anarchy, the decentrilized communities will deceide consensually thru rational debates what actions to take. Each individual actions have consequences on all society. I believe you cannot argue that it is profitable for people to re-create capitalism. I believe people will profit more from democratic economies. I dont believe this will actually happen, but it is an ideal I will try to get as close as possible. One key aspect is transforming the mindsets of the populations with reforms of the education system.
mfw people keep thinking "fascism" is different than national socialism.
All forms of government are oppressive, dillweeds. Using petty mobs as a direct form of control is only superficially different than having those same mobs follow a Dear Leader. It's all tyrannical.
>>678037945
consensuallism
>>678020995
>I need le gubberman to regulate trade and corporations because I'm too stupid not to get scammed by jews
You can go fuck your own asshole
>>678031501
>>678037884
Yep, it's full of ideas that are great in theory, and I land In there myself, but anyone who truly believes it's possible is either naive, delusional, or both.
>>678014395
>>678014395
anyone who doesnt fall around the middle is far too biased to be an effective member of government
>>678014395
Why the fuck is everyone so deep in the green zone? Is this tumblr?
A government regulated market is not a free market, and the freer the market, the freer the people.
>>678038548
Holy shit that is retarded and impractical as all fuck.
>My town will get together and have a debate
>Whatever idea is dictated the winner of that debate is the one the town follows in how to deal with me, and my business partner
First off: What are the rules of this "Rational Debate"? How is it decided who wins? Who made the rules? Is there no system in place to prevent mob rule and preserve individual freedoms, or is it just whatever the majority wants goes?
So stealing my shit, imprisoning me if i resist, or even killing me, that's perfectly fine: If we have a "Rational"(subjective) debate.
Genius.
>>678031143
im not going to lie, i fall into the center and im socially retarded. so i guess this is accurate
I answered strongly against religion on all of those so I'm not sure how I managed to sneak above the line but I got ultra-capitalist
>>678039021
most of them end up, in a way, leaving society, to go live out the fantasy on their own
treating people and the world like that is the way it works
nearly killed many of my friends
>>678038641
Literally impossible on a macro scale.
>>678039126
Tumblr likes the names in the green, but if you listen it's obvious most of them fall pretty deep in the red
>>678038800
That' where it put me, even though I'm more of a nationalist.
>>678014395
Load of shit, liberalism is faaaaaaaaar left.
>>678031143
you just hate everyone don't you
>>678038548
>communities will deceide consensually
And what do these communities do with the dissenters to the consensus? Seems to me either they must:
A) keep discussing until complete consensus achieved = paralysis
B) take action despite the dissenters = lol you're the same as every other government now
C) reform education to the point everyone thinks alike = what is brainwashing Alex
>>678039571
Not by definition.
What the faggot liberals today are doing has nothing to do with liberalism. It has been hijacked, which is why I don't use that lable anymore, but if you go by it's core concepts, it's actually as centrist as you can get.
>>678039126
Word up my melanin-enriched fraternal sibling.
>>678015415
King of the Cucks
>>678018075
>Being this far left means there is no incentive to work anymore, since you'll just get enough money from the state, you can stop giving a fuck. Then nobody works. Then the economy fails.
The automation of work says "hi". Yes, even YOUR work is soon done by robots or AI.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU
>>678020623
>>678014395
>>678014395
social democratism
>>678019209
your post ga e me terminal autism, jesus
>>678038548
Translation:
The social, technological and economical progress of decentrilized communities will come to a hold. Except if we still keep it democratic, not consensual. I wish people wouldn't recreate capitalism. I don't understand that capitalism is inherently democratic. I believe this will actually happen and I only say it's an ideal so I don't look like the nutjob I am. I will brainwash everyone by taking control of the schools, get em when they're young.
Authoritarianism. kek
https://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2?ec=-0.13&soc=2.41
>>678040138
Who repairs the robots that build the robots? And why do they work - what's their incentive?
And who decides on the programming for the robots that took the jobs wherein ethical decisions are made (lawyers, cops, legislators, ...)?
>>678040428
Democracy is overrated. Total democracy is mob rule. There shouldnt be enough power in government to even require elections. The only form of government, if any, should be decentralized but heavily restricted police forces/military forces protecting from criminals/foreign states. IF any.
>>678018910
I'm this but I feel much more conservative, many lefties would call me a fucking nazi.
>>678040428
>I will brainwash everyone by taking control of the schools, get em when they're young.
>implying this is not done in every society in the world as is
>>678039398
In reality tumblr would need their own third dimension on this compass, because they want everyone else to be completely regulated by the government, and themselves to not be regulated by anything.
>>678039302
I happen to believe in the philosophical concept of rational truth. I believe there is always a #1 option for any given situation. The best way to find that option is thru rational debate with as many perspective as possible. Anarchists generally priorise consensus. I agree it is not practical. But a society should try to oppress as little as possible the people. Rational debate is bounded by the rules of its own rationality. This may seem circular at first, but everyone has the capacity to be rational. For example, logical fallacies are irrational and have no place in a rational debate because the people, htru arguments will prove that they dont help take the best decision. The debate will take place in the specific circomstances of the community. I dont like to think of it as having a winner. Each individual is free to do whatever he wants, but it is more profitble for all if everyone debates about it to understand the potentiel outcomes. Cooperation is the base of survival in this paradigm.
>>678040138
There's several flaws with your automation plan. Because even if robots completely take control of the workforce, (Which never will happen) there's always someone who has to do something.
What u think fam
>>678040722
Which is why the liberty to choose the education one's children receive is a deep and radical freedom.
>>678039390
i agree, i believe anarchy can only happen with the decentralization of politics.
>>678040571
>>678040806
Humans may be needed for some time, indeed. But do we really need 7.5 billion people repairing robots? Certainly not.
What then, of the rest of humanity? Leave them to die penniless? You underestimate the will of the hungry. It is better for all of society to start accepting that it is no longer necessary for everyone to work and guarantee a living for all.
>>678040773
Yes, I also believe there is a "ONE TRUE WAY" to every problem: and so does everyone else. Therein is the subjectivity...Thought that would be obvious.
So my point still stands. Based on either majority or plurality, my choice to do free trade with another person who wished to freely trade with me is revoked due to the fact that it would allow me to become more succesful than the majority/plurality.
If my rights can be taken away (legally), I have no rights.
>>678040934
And this is impossible in an anarchistic society why?
If there are no laws and no regulations, only social contracts, what's stopping you or anyone else for that matter from setting up a school for their own ideology?