I am a Christian, and I can prove logically that God exists. However, I will only do this if one of the atheists on this board can muster up some civility and ask for the proof politely. I know how much you guys like to yell until you think you've won.
>>677982788
gt the fuck on somewhere else
>>677982856
PRETTY PLEASE WITH A FUCKING CHERRY ON TOP FAGGOT
>>677982909
>>677982788
You can't prove it. No amount of civility will change that.
>>677982788
no-one gives a shit mate
how many times do we need to tell you
>>677982913
Say it without the caps and the insult, and I'll consider it.
>>677982788
>christian
>logic
Pick one.
>>677983052
Its not hard to understand, metaphorically speaking. Moreover, between reality we all wear masks.
TEST:
You have 2 minutes to answer.
Why did Jesus keep the law?
>>677982788
By proving that god exists, logically god does not exist.
Proof denies faith and without faith, god is nothing. QED.
>>677982983
MaximuN smother
No atheist wants to hear?
I guess I'm not surprised. Your main skill is in shutting your eyes to information that doesn't fit your narrative.
THIS THREAD AGAIN
>>677983031
>>677982788
Yeah I'll bite: if you would kindly prove how god exists I would be rather grateful. Thanks and have a nice day to you and all other anons.
>>677982788
Checked
Hello. Can you provide your proof? I'm interested.
>>677982788
If there is god, why did he choose jews to be his chosen ppl? Why did he let isis murder christians? Why did he communicate with just a few ppl and not with all, on TV or something?
>>677983031
I remember I fell in love with that girl when I watched "Never-ending story" as a kid.
I guess none of you simple minded individuals care to hear a real superiority speak.God is real. This was all expected and you're all faggots. Not suprising.
>>677983539
>>677983545
Gladly.
Our understanding of God is a being than which no greater can be conceived.
The idea of God exists in the mind.
A being which exists both in the mind and in reality is greater than a being that exists only in the mind.
If God only exists in the mind, then we can conceive of a greater being—that which exists in reality.
We cannot be imagining something that is greater than God.
Therefore, God exists.
This is now a Stalin thread
All religion is anti-Marxist propaganda and must be sent to gulag
>>677983389
>No atheist wants to hear?
>I guess I'm not surprised. Your main skill is in shutting your eyes to information that doesn't fit your narrative.
Science fits the narrative. I refuse to deny truth. Religion is a sign of mental illness and ignorance.
Tell me, did you find a Babelfish?
WHERE IS JEHOVAH
WHERE IS HE HIDING
Sage goes in most fields
>>677982788
obvious b8 is obvious
>sage in every field
>>677983642
wut
>>677982788
Politely, can you give us the "proof"? Thank you, ... ...
...
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..motherfuckin lil'bitch hoe
>>677983642
>The idea of God exists in the mind.
Ideas are not tangible. I can say there's a black teapot orbiting Mars and eventually prove it's real. You can't prove the intangible. The human mind is fallible and can make up memories that don't exist.
god is not real, because nobody can experience the same thing in the same way while a teapot can be experienced the same way by each who see it.
Proof denies faith.
>>677983642
>"GOD IS REAL BECAUSE IMAGINATION"
>being this idealist
>>677983642
Really? This argument again? Haven't you "evidentialists" moved on to other things by now? Surely you can do better than that.
>>677983642
Go home
>>677983863
Liked the face and was surprised as I scrolled lower. Why my trapdar broken? Must be a fag.
>>677983642
What about God's God? If something can't come from nothing, God must have came from another God or from nothing.
>>677983877
lol i dunno
>>677983642
Nice try but imagining something as being omnipotent doesn't actually give it omnipotence. Here is the proof: I believe I am god and all powerful, I am still not all powerful, and that's how your argument fails.
>>677983642
Yeah, in religious peoples mind.
Should we talk about perspectives?
>>677983947
>teapot
As usual, when the atheist is challenged he resorts to parroting Richard Dawkins. Pathetic.
I'm fine believing in science. Or rather, facts. Actual, provable facts. Religion (all religions, in fact) is just an opinion. Opinions cannot be proven. Therefore, if you BELIEVE in the fact that god exists, then he does.
>>677983642
Someone's been hitting the sauce
>>677983642
>We cannot be imagining something that is greater than God.
That I exist because of pure chaos and contingency is greater than "God", a being that made a toy then walked away.
>>677984173
What does that have to do with anything? Would you know about Christianity if someone didn't tell you about it?
>>677983642
Hmmm. I don't see where you say God exists, only that if we conceive of the idea than he must exist. I disagree.
My personal proof of God* is similar to yours but stops short of saying that a singular God exists, just it's effects are felt:
Ideas are real. Plain and simple. Some are more real than others. Think of an unicorn. Does it exist? In books, products, pictures and imagination, yes. You can buy a toy unicorn. Does a unicorn live and breath? Probably not but the idea of an unicorn is real, and it's effects on us are real.
If enough people believe in something and follow whatever guidelines they set in believing it, it has an effect on the real world. It might not be the desired effect but an effect nonethelss.
So, there are probably multiple idea of God's out there, competing for existence.
>>677984162
but you obviously don't though
try harder to be god thanks
>>677983642
I can remember this EXACT reasoning on why Ninja's are things we cannot conceive something greater than.... fuck you faggot
>>677983642
even aquinas, one of the greatest ever christian scholars, disagreed with this shit
>>677984162
Yeah, but you aren't God
>>677983642
I actually got my hopes up here and then it's such a bad reasoning
>>677984173
Read Lenin's Materialism and Empritio-Criticism, faggot. l2dialectics, l2materialism.
>>677983215
Simple question to answer for a Christian, but confusing for an atheist, which you are. As a Christian, it's easy to see that you're a fake.
I've been trying to educate /b/ that you are just posing as a Christian, that you are an atheist that trolls both sides by answering as a Christian at times, and as an atheist at other times, but they won't listen. Atheists love being trolled apparently.
>>677984346
That's the point retard, imagining something doesn't make it real.
Why doesn't spidey take these threads more seriously? This is the fucking weakest of sauce. I can feel this thread trying to invade to the vasculature even as I type this.
>>677983642
Holy shit, this is some of the highest quality bait I've seen in weeks
yeah surpisingly you can throw a lot of words together & sound deep but is actually retarded as fuck m8 youre acting like the only 2 choices are GOD or no god. what if god is my deodorant or a golden unicorn or zeus.We think of a god as omniscient and omnipotent but such an existence is also a paradox like your statement. If god is almighty, can he create a rock that is unmovable ? if he can't, hes not god. But if he can create but not move, then he is not all powerful. It is impossible for him to create the unmovable object. This would technically prove god cannot exist but like i said, you can fuck with phrases and theoreticals all day but most logic and evidence points to there being no god.
SAGE REPLY
The OP is an atheist who posts as a Christian. He doesn't abandon the thread. He posts in /b because there is no user ID. He then can answer as a Christian or an atheist. He likes to take the opposite side of the argument to get people all riled up. He admitted it several days ago. He is an east coaster too.
This thread isn't real though. It's full of the OP saying shit on both sides of the issue that is designed to create a response (i.e., BAIT).
If you want to talk about religion, there are other places to go where people actually exchange intelligent thoughts, not here though.
The KKK announces a march in a city. All the anti-KKK people come out and scream during the parade. Usually, it's a dozen or so KKK members and hundreds of protestors.
Want the KKK parades to stop? Ignore them. Let them walk down empty streets. Without all the protestors and cameras following the clash, there would be nothing to validate their message. Without an audience, the marches would stop.
Don't be the audience. Don't give the OP validation by enabling him. Ignore the thread and let it die every time. He'll be bored and go away.
SAGE REPLY
>>677984348
yes, there's no evidence for ninjas throwing giant throwing stars and running with their arms behind them
but ninjas are the coolest thing possible, and it would be cool if they did that. therefore they did
>>677984588
fucking shock me nigga
go away and let me have fun with this guy's thing
>>677982788
I am genuinely curious, is it you making these threads everytime I come on here and do you do it everyday or do I just happen to scroll by them on days you post? Also is it all you? Or do other people adopt your persona for shits. Also, are you gay? The last one is less of a question and more of a general vibe you put off.
>>677984588
>saging
>with an image
You must be new here
>>677984527
>>677984039
This poor girl just wants to enjoy the view, when some asshole climbs backwards over the wall just to block her view. That's just mean.
>>677984346
There are people who genuinely believe that they are gods, though.
Still doesn't make them gods.
>>677984686
umad?
>>677984684
yes yes and yes
all to the gay part of your question
>>677982788
Fuck off.
by the way his line of reasoning is know as the ontological argument and is from a guy called Anselm, and is only half of the argument, the other half being equally as stupid and even other christian scholars have torn this apart before.
there are plenty of things science does not understand,
I wonder why the idea of God existing is denied so hard, while science surely does not have all the knowledge there is to have.
>>677983389
Said the christian
>>677983642
Oh really? We can't think of something stronger than God?
This is my good friend, Ampharos with a dick on his face. He's strong enough to kill God without doing a single thing.
>>677984763
what about when they start convincing people around them they are gods? Charlie Manson and such
those guys are still not trying hard enough
>>677982788
Pls provide proof
>>677984952
All hail Ampharos with a dick on his face. Since he exists in our mind and can't even be beaten by god then he must exist in real life... somewhere.
>>677982788
Prove it, ya fuck.
god doesn't exist because he is just an idea,heck we even give him human traits, if he exists then he is beyond our comprehension.
Damn girl please... which god?
>>677984920
so there's practical atheism (well yeah, obviously this imaginary dude who has never done anything doesn't exist) and political atheism (your dumb specific religion is fucking with people, did you notice it's all imaginary?)
>>677983863
Sauce for the love of "god"
>>677984588
>He is an east coaster too.
Must have been an imposter. I don't give out any information when I bring the word to /b/. Christians are the most persecuted people in the country today and I have to stay safe.
>>677984952
every pokeman and indeed everything ever is also that strong
>>677985438
I'm guessing OP bailed because of critical levels of faggotry.
ITT: Samefag is the same fucking faggot, every fucking day and in every fucking way
>>677983642
>We cannot be imagining something that is greater than God.
I just imagined Supergod, who has all the same powers as God but smokes cigars and always has witty one-liners.
YOUR MOVE, EMPRESS.
>>677985295
listen I'm not saying he IS human, just he has a really good human mask and enjoys faking dinosaur bones because it is funny
>>677985558
Is that Somik?
>>677983195
Wow. That was a lot of drivel.
Do you even understand the terminology you're using? The application is way off.
>>677984345
An actually cool and thought out dissemination gets no replies. Stay classy /b/
>>677983642
you proved that there's nothing greater than our minds, as our minds created the idea of god.
>>677985558
Keep it coming anon! Have a name for this beauty?
>>677983642
You cannot use axioms to proof god, faggot
Look up Kurt Gödel. His proof of god is at least logical correct, but is actually only the showcase that randomly chosen axioms are virtually useless.
Therefore sage.
By choosing your axioms, you can prove virtually everything. In your case, the conclusions are not even correct based on your own chosen axioms.
>>677985069
Some weird cult worshipped Manson
Rastafarians worshipped Haile Selassie
Ancient Egyptians worshipped the pharaohs
None actually became or were gods, unless you're redefining "god" as "literally anyone who can influence the actions of a group of people", in which case every single fucking leader in the history of mankind has been a god
>>677985530
Hahaha this guy never stops continuing to make himself look unintelligible
>>677985530
Fuck off you trolling imposter.
So insecure in your choices, you come here to validate yourself. Quite sad really.
>>677984070
kek'd
>>677985799
Don't forget that we should be able to greet the greek gods on mount olympus.
>>677985530
>Christians are the most persecuted people in the country today
Have you never heard of Islam?
man we say god/higher existenz maybe exist but the religus morality shit that is standard protocoll of all big religion grup is so fake and have logic holes even spiderman cant make so much bullshit up.
so some of the guys have make the conclusion is it better to be non beliver / atheist then be part of some grupp that is fanatic and belive a no prove made up story have a nice day and ...the force be ... on everyone
>>677982788
>conditions of "proper" never stated
u r not even actually talkin about god, but u r wrong already anyway
>>677986032
He thinks the Greek gods were actually on top of mount Olympus
He's clearly never taken a classics course
Do you really think the Greeks couldn't see that there was nothing on top? The Greek gods lived above mt olympus, not on it.
hey guys how is your religious discussion going?
>>677986110
Funny, all I hear about Islam is people saying how great they are and not to hate them. I haven't run into any of these mythical people who want to run them out of the country.
>>677985530
>>677986110
Yeah, fucking circle the wagons against the rising tide of secularism, asshole. You people of the book are pretty identical to my eyes, you need to get some coalition politics going
>>677983642
>no grater can be conceived
false assumption
>if its in mind, it has to be outside to be better, and i need it to be better, so imma assume it is
demonstrate god
>>677986228
Yeah I didn't know that.
>>677986562
we are actually working on artificial intelligence in order to make greater beings conceivable than currently
thereby upgrading god
>>677986734
Anon are you on the drugs? That doesn't make any sense.
>>677986734
>imperfect being made by perfect being r now inventing more perfect being then the perfect being they were created by
proof of god being shit-ass faggot wimp
OP had to go back to class.
/end thread
>>677986867
yes, but also yes it does.
it's me goofing on both our tendency to outsource mental tasks these days, and to communicate the concept of God is a fiction that has been worked on by great minds. He's come a long way from "really good ancestor" through "tyrannical lawgiver" into "assumed quality of all time and space"
>>677983642
You're parroting Descartes, an obsolete proto-scientist. There's a reason why rationalism was abandoned as an epistemological methodology.
We're still waiting for that ontologically viable proof of god's existence.
>>677986947
indisputable
god disproved
>>677985530
Actually, Satanists are the most persecuted in America, followed by muslims.
>>677988271
Funny, all I hear about Muslims is people saying how great they are and not to hate them. I haven't run into any of these mythical people who want to run them out of the country.
Satanism is the worship of a being who is by definition pure evil. No wonder.
>>677983642
According to your statement, God doesn't exist to those who don't have the concept of God in their mind. God can't exist and not exist at the same time.
>>677988861
Who says he can't?
>>677988580
well I mean most people who are avowed Satanists worship no such being
>>677989043
logic
god disproved again
>>677982788
You stupid fucking idiot,, all God is, is another word for the universe, some assfuck centuries ago started making up random words in there shitskin language,and God was just another word for the English version of universe,
Your a moron, go kill yourself
>>677989043
dude why you gotta be a cunt about it.
like Dawkins came up and he made me think about all these assholes who I agree with their positions but they're still assholes
your strawman act helps no one.
already proven
>>677989322