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You atheists....

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.....make me so.........

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..............ANGRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There was not nothing. There was a gigantic singularity that started expanding really really fast.

>>677866539
BUT WHERE DID SINGULARY??

CHECKMAIT, ATHEIS!

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>Believes old book

Prove that god exists faggot
>pro-fucking-tip: you fucking can't

>>677866733
Prove the big bang happend.

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>>677866132
>inb4 Pascal's wager

>>677866733
>>677866851
Same person.
You can't prove otherwise.

>>677866672
BUT WHERE DID GOD??

>>677866132
If you look at the current state of the universe, you can extrapolate how said universe probably looked like. The Big Bang theory is pretty elegant, works well and has so far not been proven to be wrong.

And asking about what used to be before the Bang is pretty pointless. We just don't know.

>>677866672

Maybe from a Universe that collapsed into itself? Or we're just one of many universes and this happens infinitely? God? Humanity that master time travel and creates the universe itself creating an everlooping cycle? We have no way of telling what happened before the big bang. Your guess is as good as mine

None of you will live long enough to know. What's the point of arguing about something that you'll never get an answer to?

>>677866851
Cosmic Microwave Background
Now sit down

>>677866132
Do you honestly believe in creation? There was absolutely nothing and then a magical sky god spoke a few words and all the matter and energy in the entire universe suddenly came out of nowhere. Topkek! Tnink about it anon, it's so ridiculous.

>>677867317

What's the point of anything? Why live? Why not just end it right here and now?

>>677866132
Troll thread. Saged, hidden, called the cops, called the FBI, called Gook, called the CIA, called Chuck Norris, called your mother, called the IRA, called DARPA, called the plumber

>>677867368

I believe God is the image of the ultimate being project into. God is humanities end goal. All the things we thought were magic were sooner or later be solved by humanity. We will not stop to improve until actually transcend time and space and be able to create things merely by speaking them. In that light how could you say God cannot exist?

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>>677866132
Quick question, why do you care what /b thinks? To me it seems like you're only trying to start a flame war, and all these faggot are biting right into, it because they're fucking stupid. Have fun trying to win your internet argument you autistic fuck-tards

>>677866132
>There was absolutely nothing
Lrn2cosmogenesis, retard

>>677866132
energy didn't come out of nowhere, that would break three laws of ththe big bangermodynamics. moreover you can't talk about any state before big bang (not even "nowhere") because there was no before, time itself starts at big bang

do you honestly believe in the "god"? there was absolutely nothing and then the entire universe suddently came out of nowhere in the exact current form, expanding, with earth covered with all the skeletons of creatures that never existed? hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy has better explanation of creation of earth than bible can offer

>>677867565
why end it right here and now? because you don't know the answer does not give you argument against the question because you don't know the answer for reversed question either

> I will show how stupid theists are by talking for them and then responding to myself

>>677867353
But what would create that if there was nothing. Fucking faggot

>>677866132
it never was nothing you retarded monkey, It always been something, just it was a single point of energy.

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>>677866925
You can't prove anything fukboi

>>677867954
If you're saying that a person is their own god, then I'm ok with that. It's just a difference in semantics.

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SAGE REPLY

The OP is an atheist who posts as a Christian. He doesn't abandon the thread. He posts in /b because there is no user ID. He then can answer as a Christian or an atheist. He likes to take the opposite side of the argument to get people all riled up. He admitted it several days ago. He is an east coaster too.

This thread isn't real though. It's full of the OP saying shit on both sides of the issue that is designed to create a response (i.e., BAIT).

If you want to talk about religion, there are other places to go where people actually exchange intelligent thoughts, not here though.

The KKK announces a march in a city. All the anti-KKK people come out and scream during the parade. Usually, it's a dozen or so KKK members and hundreds of protestors.

Want the KKK parades to stop? Ignore them. Let them walk down empty streets. Without all the protestors and cameras following the clash, there would be nothing to validate their message. Without an audience, the marches would stop.

Don't be the audience. Don't give the OP validation by enabling him. Ignore the thread and let it die every time. He'll be bored and go away.

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>>677866132
So is the point of this meme that Christians are all crying little girls?

>>677869312
there was never "nothing". time starts at the big bang so there was no "before big bang"

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Give up on the shit post OP.

>>677869568
hey i have that gas mask

>>677867995
Would you rather have another trap/boipussy thread or Tay Tay Swizzle shitshow?

Arguably it could go either way.

>>677869579
Ok so there was still nothing to create said "cosmic microwaves"

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>>677869497
Oh, thank goodness you cleared that up, we never would have known.

>>677867565
Good question, and one I've been asking myself a lot lately. I need to go outside and find some source of joy.

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so who got the quads though?

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>>677869896
This is now a bait image thread.

>>677869841
you cannot say "there was nothing" or "there was something" before the big bang. there was no time before the big bang. at the big bang, all the energy of the universe was already present, including the energy that is background cosmic radiation

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>>677869896
moar

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LOL 'GOD'.

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DEBATE?

>>677871230
Edgy autistic atheist. God is real, you edgy obese fuck. Fucking die.

Who the fuck cares?
Never made a difference to my life...

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>>677871547
you have a small error in this. god in judo-christianism did not create water/sea. it kind-of was always there

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HA! Christians.

>>677866672
Colliding Branes. But next question would be where did they come from. You have a point here. But putting god in here is nonsense. Where did he come from? The problem is that here is a point we can't see beyond, and there is nothing much we can do about.

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>>677866132

allright now this shit heeds to settle down

the one -all is unknowable, it is wastly more complex, more multifaceted and more effective than any of us can imagine

all that is is the manifestation of the unmanifetsed, yet they are both one and the same

there is no real beginig, no actual end, the transmutation continues endlesly, ever now and so beyond time

all this theist/atheist shit is naive, unimaginative and unenlightened

you should realy consider thinking outside those boxes, it would do you all well

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Shit gotta put pizza in oven soon

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Creationist are completely fucking retarded and the sooner religion dies the better off we will all be.

>>677871211
Dubs of truth
>it's like what's north of the north pole

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>>677866132

Tell me more.

>>677866733
Being a Catholic myself, I come across this question frequently. Let's set aside all coincidences that we have a perfect earth, and that everything works perfectly, math, physics and all sciences. Let's also say, for arguments sake, that Jesus did not exist, and that all of his miracles are fake.

Now, who (or what) created everything that exists today? The Big Bang Theory? Sure, but what created the Big Bang Theory. You may ask me, 'What created God?' To that, I reply that I have no fucking clue.

TL;DR Big Bang happened because of God. Evolution happened because of God. Everything that we know right now happened because of God.

>>677872801
wow, that's a really good comparison

>>677871547
I'd like to further separate the scientific outlook from religious ones. Most religions claim to know the truth behind life, the universe, and everything. The scientific approach makes no such claim, but rather says "This is our best guess based on what we can observe. We'll let you know if something changes it."

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Pizza's in oven

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If anon was to take bait..it should be this bait.

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DiGiorno stuffed crust pepperoni

>>677866132
Why do you care? We'll never know in our lifetimes and if it doesn't affect us directly then why worry about it? The universe is how it is.

>>677873446

good one

>>677871211
>was no time before the big bang.

The "no time" is within our definition of time. You might say internal clock was stoped, but that does not me that there is no external time.

>>677873977
external time where? there is no outside of the universe. everything is inside the universe

>>677871622
>Occam's Razor

Religion wins!

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>>677869497
>without protest the KKK would go away

Seems legit. Let's all never oppose anything they want to do, that'll keep 'em down. I'm 100% for this.

>>677874188
Thanks for carrying on, I'm tapped out. And pizza's almost done.

>>677874337
Well an external source of the energy that made up the big bang would be most logical to me. When there is an external source there is external time.

>>677866132
>Did space and time exist before the big bang?
>Did retards lose control of their master debating before atheist bait threads?

One of these is the real universal question.

So is religion.

>>677875750

this sounds realy petty and defensive, not to say passive-agressive, comming from a alleged 'oldfag'

>>677874961
There are even more hints that there are more universes. The weakness of gravity gives us one and the fact that the universe has constants that are needed but that are quite unlikely. Imagine you have 100 dice and all should land on the 6. But this is our universe. All 6 were rolled. Meaning it's likely that there are other universes with other combinations.

>>677872282
>I'm gonna say that I have no idea what's going with anything, but in a pretentious way that sounds like I know it all.

Thinking like this does no one well. It's just masturbation, it advances literally nothing.

>>677874461
That is distortion of my statement.

I never said to accept all ideas or actions from the KKK. Why are you lying about this? To somehow try and score some debate points?

I referred to ONE SPECIFIC event, a KKK march. That march is to expose people to their views and as everyone knows, to cause a shitstorm. A march is meaningless without an audience. If they walk down an empty street, why would they continue? No one to troll.

>>677876267

>advances

are you serious tho?

>>677873075
If you have no idea what started the big bang theory, and also no idea what could have created God, then you have no reason to justify God. It's just an extra step you added to something you don't know.

I could use your exact logic to show that your god was created by my god. I have no fucking clue what created my god, but what created yours? Had to be somebody. Had to be my god.

>>677875750
Without shitposting this board would have like 4 threads

>>677866132
How do you honestly have this much time to keep making this thread 24/7/365? Seriously, you religious people are fucking fanatical and weird. You probably watch child porn too. Jesus man, get a life, you're always on 4Chan with this low quality bait, you probably look like a shrine to nurgle at this point. Your mother is going to have to drag you out of that basement kicking and shrieking into the burning sunlight. You sadden me so much that you disgust me. I'm not even mad, this is just cringe at this point. If there was a god, you would make him sad.

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>>677876575
My seriousness is unknowable. It is both mad serious forreal, and a total fucking joke. I am one with the cosmos, a being of unimaginably complex seriousness. There is no real point, no real usefulness, no real reason to even be talking about it. You should consider thinking into some boxes, it's called focus.

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>>677877340
Truth

>>677867353
>Cosmic Microwave Background

i remember them. they were an opening act for frank zappa.

>>677878052

were talking imaginary non-entities here, what exactly is it that one is supposed to focus on?

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>>677866132
>Large white man who apparently came from Earth created it and blesses us
>OR
>Cosmic fucking microwave
>Boom
>Bacteria takes over
>Creates life on Earth
>Old age people with barely any scientific knowledge believe in powers bigger them and have a reason to
If you keep making these threads, stop using that fucking image. Her face pisses me off so fucking much.

>>677876309
Oh man I agree though. Everyone knows the KKK are just trollin for some attention. If we all just give them cold shoulders they'll give up on hating negros. Forget debate points, I think you should get a nobel or something for this.

>>677879155
A child can understand my position. But since you oppose me, you must try to discredit my statement no matter how absurd.

You embarrass yourself. You're not being sarcastic or funny. You're displaying you limited knowledge and debate skills. You are not worth anyone's time.