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Say if you took a really fat and ugly girl. Like really no friends, she's literally about to kill herself and nobody would care if she was gone and just abducted her into you your dungeon, where you force her to lose weight and mentally torture her until she's almost broken. And after a half year after you turned her into something like pic related you just start to fuck her silly every day for hours and it will be the first good feeling she will have in months and you condition her to feel happy seeing your dick and turn her into a literal sex slave with absolutely no self esteem who craves your cock who thinks of herself as ugly and fat but is actually your hot fuckslut. And after years of conditioning her you take her out and nobody will even recognize her and she won't run away because she craves your cock and becomes your absolutely perfect waifu that does whatever the fuck you want

Would that be evil? Would it be morally wrong? She's happy after all.
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seems legit
hard work pays off and nihilistic ppl are maschositic n dont care
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>>677849445
Sounds gr8, but problem is finding a fat bimbo thats in process of suicide that can actually look like pic related after said and done. Some women, when loose weight get skin folds left over and have awful stretch marks aside from that. Youll pry have to put down some money, or you could learn to do it yourself, might be hot. But dangerous.
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>>677849917

I mean even if she ran away and called the cops and imprisoned me, she'd live on knowing she became a hot chick and getringn her first dicking instead of having herself killed

So is it really evil? And why?
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>>677850609
No.
But the modern feminists will turn it around on you and she will then be convinced in her own mind that you were the bad guy this whole time. Like the dude that saved that dumb bitch from drowning and got in trouble cause she didn't ask him or some dumb shit in that realm
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>>677850907

I mean you really did rape her in the most cruel way possible, but you also saved her life, so... I guess it's a tie?
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>>677849445

>you just start to fuck her silly every day for hours and it will be the first good feeling she will have in months

Except not all women love being forcefully raped by their torturers. "Good" feelings won't happen, you'll just drive her over that suicidal edge till she finds a way to do it.
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>>677851236
I would say its maybe not rape...? But whatever. I woukd be for it if my wife would allow something like that. But shes against having a sub or dom or any kind of third women. And shed find out if I did. Maybe someday
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>>677851236
>I guess it's a tie?
I don't think you understand how Feminists work m8.
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>>677851465
Alot get that syndrom that hostages get, starts with an h, named after bitch from 70s that was captured by some nogs. She was a paris hilton of her time.
Anyway, they psychologically bond with them. And pain and pleasure are close in the brain, not hard to link em. Getting it in the arse for a girl is painful at first but they beg for it eventually
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>>677849445
>Would it be morally wrong?

It'd be illegal.
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>>677852256
Maybe you could have her sign herself under your care or some shit
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>>677852007

Stockholm syndrome.
Also pain is literally pleasure. The body releases endorphines to handle the pain and you can easily become addicted to it. Everyone. It's why emos cut themselves and can't stop
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seems legit
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>>677852256

Well true, but legality and morality don't necessarily have to be the same.
For example slavery was legal for a long, but it was never morally right
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>>677852503
Thanks.
Right, well physical pleasure. Mental is a bit more complex. Some stems from pain, others good memories. But the bad ones can make the good pleasurable. Or just jade the fuck out of you.
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>>677852256

When there's no prosecutor there's no judge
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>>677852710
It depends on how its done. There are moral ways to own a slave. Mostly not done it 1800s.
But by definition, a prisoner is a slave according to the constitution
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>>677849445
You clearly have no fucking clue about biology. The girl pictured eats nothing and has 10/10 parents. No amount of exercise will turn mama june into her.
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>>677849445
You literally just described a sex slave with a case of Helsinki syndrome whom you've abducted, tortured, and raped.

>evil?
Subjective

>morally wrong?
Subjective.

I think the key word you're missing in your questioning is: Is it legal? The answer is no.
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>>677849445
You god damn retard. Locking a woman in a dungeon while starving her and "fucking her silly" isn't going to make her happy. Best case scenario you'll have a malnourished basket case. It's true that you're saving her from her own obsese habits, but at what cost?
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>>677853572

Why so concerned about legality?
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a) Your actions are based on the premise that she would be happy in the end. That's a big assumption to make.
b) taking away someone else's free will is generally seen as immoral.

The end justifying means is also generally seen as immoral, especially when the end is not guaranteed.
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>>677853342

You might not be able to turn her into a 10/10 but a 8/10 and with a little make up trickery a 9/10 is certainly possible
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>>677849445
ffs, stop watching hentai
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>>677849445
I was actually thinking of this the other day. Like kidnap a hot girl make her a sex slave and when/if you condition her to love you you then give her a gun and tell her you love her that's why your giving her the gun and you guide her hands to point it at your head. But since she's been conditioned to be your cumslut shell start crying saying she never could since she loves you, at which point you both decide to leave the country and live abroad together where there can't be any consequences if she second guesses herself and live the good life
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>>677854402

But it works so well in hentai!
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>>677854687

>Breaking News: Kidnapped girl managed to escape her kidnapper after shooting him after he gave her a gun. Police is puzzled.
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>>677854402

Tell me a hentai that's about turning a fat chick into a hot chick and then rape her to be your sexslave
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>>677855895

this guy knows what i'm talking about
>>677855301
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>>677854049

a) She will be happy. It's a fool proof plan. Trust me, I'm a doctor.
b) Free will is an illusion
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>>677854402

Stockholm syndrome is real
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>>677854687
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>>677856143

Wtf Videl is not fat
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>>677856580

I don't see why it wouldn't work
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>>677849445
Umm... yes. It's wrong to take away someone's freedom.
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Yes, it definitely works for a couple of years, until others enter your bubble.
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a) Your actions are based on the premise that she would be happy in the end. That's a big assumption to make.
b) taking away someone else's free will is generally seen as immoral.

The end justifying means is also generally seen as immoral, especially when the end is not guaranteed.
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>>677857197

He just wasn't mastermind enough.
You never hear about successful rape dungeons because... well you only can hear about the failures.
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Story of my life with now gf
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>>677856798

Why tho
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>>677854191

Right = before
Left = after
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It's an over complicated plan.
Most hot sluts have very low self esteem already, see themselves as whales and crave the cock
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>>677857860

Post pics
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>>677857945

S-shut up
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>>677857765

Real talk: How many rape dungeons that will never ever be discovered by the public do you guys think there are in total?
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>>677857674

a) She will be happy. It's a fool proof plan. Trust me, I'm a doctor.
b) Free will is an illusion
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>>677858069

What did I take from you?
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>>677858642
>b) Free will is an illusion
I choose to disagree
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>>677856798
Natural rights don't exist
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Fat ugly girl here. I'd sign up for this willingly.
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Ali Rae is my pornfu, wish I could watch her get creampied all day.
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>>677858827

At the end stage when she's conditioned to craving cock will it them be her free will or is she just a slave of her psychology
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>>677849445
It's completely legal if the girl is either black or a jew.
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>>677858984
same.
where do i enlist?
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>>677858919
When we all agree that they do, we prevent living in a shit-hole world.

Civilization is based on reciprocity. If you agree I have natural rights and respect them, and I do the same in return, then we are both better off than in the alternative society.
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>>677849445
Would not be right. Women have rights too !!!
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>>677859194

IF she is. Then you may have influenced her decision, but is by no means guaranteed.
If you are imprisoning and torturing her though, if you aren't choosing to do it are you even guilty?

Seems to me though that people tend to act and feel differently, and make different choices depending on whether or not they believe in free will.
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>>677849445

>a literal sex slave with absolutely no self esteem who craves your cock who thinks of herself as ugly and fat but is actually your hot fuckslut
it would take her seconds in the real world to realize that she is hot

>Would that be evil?
You are satisfying your own needs at the cost of others. When that cost is robbing a human from all their freedom, yes that is evil.

>Would it be morally wrong?
Moral is subjective, and you can always walk down the nihilistic route until there finally is no moral. In a working society this would however be considered immoral.

>She's happy after all.
I have puppy dog. I bought it from a farmer who had too many. If I hadn't bought it, the farmer would had killed it. For three years I beat it everyday until it passes out. Then I feed it by injecting liquid nutrition. Now when it's older I only beat it every other day. The other days I treat it like a normal dog. It's alive and happy every other day after all...
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>>677849445

I'll tell you a secret that most people, especially younger adults, are loathe to hear, OP:

Fat and ugly people will never become attractive. If you are fat and ugly, it is already too late. If you're more than 40 lbs overweight, give or take based on height, your body is ruined and you will never be more attractive than 'homely'. 4/10 Naked. If you have terrible acne your skin is going to look like shit for the rest of your life. No amount of make-up will hide it. And if you're just ugly, well... that shit is to the bone. Surgery will just make you look like a mutant.

So as a fantasy, your words might inspire lust, but in reality the end result would be barely more fuckable than when you started. Sorry if I've shattered your illusion.
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>>677860285

Stop breaking down my fantasy you asshole!
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>>677849445
That's like saying
>what if you go next door every night and drug your neighbor then molest them with a roll of quarters
>neighbor never remebers, just gets a phobia of money
>go in one night and take all their money
>is that wrong? They don't want it
Assuming we live in a world where this bullshit brain washing would actually work, fuck yes it is wrong.
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>>677849445
considering she'd turn in too the girl on the picture who has 482 free vids on xvideos i can't blame you man
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>>677849445
>wat is Stockholm Syndrome?

And yes, it is fucking evil to enslave and torture another human. You aren't entertaining this idea because you are just a really fucking nice altruistic person either, and I sincerely hope you are on some sort of watch list for potential serial killers now.
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>>677849445
That was my fantasy when I was 5. Grow the fuck up dude. Learn some damn game. Women aren't aliens. They're people just like you.
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>>677849445

This literally works. Not even kidding. The biological explanation for Stockholm syndrome is that in the past back when we were all split into different clans and shit it was pretty common for males to just capture females of another group and rape them (and kill all males of the other group). Only those that managed to sympathize with their kidnaper managed to survive and reproduce. This trend continued even long into moder human history. From Egypt ro Greece to Troja to Berlin. Invaders have always taken women hostage and conditioned women to like them.

So being abducted and raped and actually growing to like it is literally in the genes of women
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>>677859411

Go to the most beta permavirgin you can find. Maybe someone that tries to get /fit/ and believes physical appearance is the magic key to everything.
Check if he has the cold eyes of a killer.
And just propose that idea to him. Tell him you volunteer to become his slave forever if he makes sure you become a hot fuckslut.
He'll do it.
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>>677861284

If I was a girl I'd become a fuckslut
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>>677861284

Teach us about your "game" master
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>>677861209

Why is it evil though?
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