>>677747565
Seriously guys, Bernie Sanders is a sexist racist and Donald Trump has a small penis.

>>677747565
Astroturf?

>>677747716
We use a collection of disposable accounts on various news and social media websites to reiterate her talking points on any posts regarding Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, or Donald Trump.

>>677747716
>Astroturf

Fake grass roots.

>>677747898
Do they pay you to keep your mouth shut?

>>677747565
>working closely with others

So no need to out yourself, but who are the others?

>>677748117
Grassroots*, but yes. We're here to invoke people into a hivemind that doesn't actually exist yet.

>>677747898
How about her talking point where she represented a rapist who was accused of raping a 12 year old girl. The defendant passed a polygraph test and Hillary openly said it forever ruined her faith in polygraph tests.

This means she fully believed he was guilty.

How can she claim to be for women's rights and equality when she will defend a rapist who she believes to be guilty as long as they pay her enough.

She is a spineless soulless cunt.

http://freebeacon.com/politics/hillary-clinton-speaks-about-defense-of-child-rapist/

>>677748293
>spineless soulless cunt

All you said is that she was a lawyer.

>>677748193
I signed an NDA when I took the job. So yes, kind of.

But they also told me about the importance of using one of many private VPNs and taught me how to limit any indications of sponsorship.

>>677748487
In other words, double-edged sword. Pretty sure they can't figure out I'm violating my NDA. :)

I want her to win only because the extinction of the human race would happen the fastest with her as president.

>>677748662
Pretty sure Donald Trump is your guy then, actually.

>>677748612
If she wins do you get a bonus?

>>677748751
Either or, I dont really care

You should go to the press with others you work with. Sure you might be fucked but it would be hillaryious

>>677748203
You can't find any astroturfing agencies on Google for a reason. I can't out any of them.

Do you think she's gonna get lumped into this whole Panama papers scandal?

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When women run a country

>>677748781
No. Our clients even have to sign liability waivers. We're bullshit artists, not miracle workers. If our client wins, great. If they don't, great. We're paid either way.

>>677749053
We're heavily incentivized to report anyone who talks about outing the operation to the press. Forming a group is borderline impossible.

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OP may or may not be a troll, but Hillary Clinton (as well as many other establishment puppets) have been caught involved in this kind of activity.

As for Trump; he may not be flawless, but let me make one thing clear...

The ONLY reason Donald Trump is being misrepresented, attacked and slandered by the controlled media and political operatives online is because he's the only real threat to Hillary Clinton (the planned replacement puppet for Obama) being handed the Presidency.

Furthermore, I happen to know for a fact that Trump is largely playing a role and acting controversial as a political tactic. Making ‘brash’ statements is part of his game, as a way of throwing out ‘red meat’ to attract mainstream GOP voters. In other words, he’s just selling meatloaf to a meatloaf crowd.

Trump actually knows WAY MORE than he lets on. However, his intent is to win and save the country; and he knows that can’t be done without playing the game of politics.

This has all been confirmed by people that know him well behind the scenes, such as Jerome Corsi and Roger Stone.

This video explains things better than I could. I implore you all to watch it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDr2NJPv8kE

>>677748462
A lawyer who helped a man who she openly admits she believed was guilty get away with rape of a 12 year old girl. Then she turns around and tries to pretend she is a feminist.

She is a flip flopping spineless piece of shit who will say and do whatever benefits her at the current time.

>>677749615
Damn you got some competition op, I like what hes saying

>>677749525
>We're heavily incentivized

How heavily? I'll bet /b/ could raise a bigger bribe.

>>677749525
What do they tell you would happen?

>>677749715
>flopping spineless piece of shit who will say and do whatever benefits her at the current time.

Like I said; she's a lawyer.

>>677747565
so you get paid to spam her pics and what she says all over the internet, including 4chan?

>>677749137
Yes you can.

>>677749715
The system only works when everyone gets fair representation in court anon. It's not about condoning the actions of your client.

That said I do think she is soulless, calculated, and probably plain evil

>mfw op is actually astroturfing for trump by saying hillary is astroturfing

>>677749881
$250/outing. There are about a dozen every month and it generally results in a life-crushing lawsuit. If /b/ can pay my legal bills for leaking trade secrets, by all means.

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>>677749715

Glad someone is awake.

>>677747565
What websites do you as astroturf? How can we tell if a post is a paid shill or not?

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>>677747565

I wonder why peoplw want to be the president so bad, seems like a shit job. Maybe you get eternal life as a reward from the grays.

>>677750339
Trump can pay your legal bill, contact his ppl

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>>677750537

Kek

>>677750339
What other campaigns have you worked on?

>>677750339
Plus you'll never be taken to court, too much bad press. You probably will lose your job though

>>677747565
You should swing by /pol/ and say hi.

>>677750336
I know it's a joke, but we're not permitted to make accusations like that. We try to keep the attention drawn away from astroturfing as much as possible. The more the public is aware of it, the less the public falls for it.

>>677750771
Also trips50trips get

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>>677747565
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>>677750339
Dude do you really think that your life will be over after this shit leaks out? Yeah everyone does it but still cheating on an election ahe would be evenmore fucked

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>>677750336

>implying Trump is the corrupt one

Right....

http://www.infowars.com/breaking-anti-trump-protest-funded-and-directed-by-hillary/

>>677750479
Reddit is the easiest to identify. A real user will have a wide variety of interests, comments regarding subjects across the board. An astroturfer will generally go through spurts of single-minded "interest." Just skim the comment history.

We've taken to buying and using existing accounts in mass for jobs recently. Our pre-captcha reserves are getting low. We'll probably throw them out once we're done.

Do your best to sell me on this kunt. For example you see on a fb meme that hillary doesnt have the the god damned common courtesy to give you a reach around and is a terrible lay, and thats why bill cheated. How would you disprove that?

>>677751407
I troll reddit everyday calling her a worthless cunt on various accounts and servers

>>677751198
>infowars
heheheheheheh

>>677751518
We're not in the business of selling people on this cunt. We're in the business of making people think this cunt has already been sold.

The implication of course being that they're in the out group and should hop on into the in group.

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>>677751518

Bill "cheated" because they're not a real couple.

Ever heard of the phrase "the scandal is the coverup"?

Research...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHa7Ruu2BGI

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>>677751803

>ad hominem
>denying reality just because you've been convinced that a source isn't credible

hehehehe

>>677751407
What subreddit? What other website? I thought reddit is small time Hilary? Is one shill account shared by multiple posters or is it not shared? How did you get your job?

>>677749715
>A lawyer
>Soulless slime
Why'd you just say the same thing twice?

>>677750771
State reps, cable companies, news media. Fairly niche market now that I think about it.

She has the best hair.
I don't see how she could lose.

>>677747565
>Clinton's campaign has hired us to astroturf on her behalf
lying faggot

>>677747707
>Bernie Sanders is a sexist racist
no he isn't shithead

>>677748234
So the reason anyone online would ever mention Ted Cruz?

>>677752058
>ad hominem
shut the fuck up Trump Humping faggot

Isn't Clinton in prison yet?

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>>677747565
Astroturfing.
On 4chan.
Right.

>>677752058
>>http://www.reddit.com/

>>677753019
why are you a faggot

>>677752301
We post in multiple subreddits, but we're obligated to be subbed to /r/HillaryClinton.

A list of accounts is generally allocated to each employee at the start and thrown out as the job progresses. We don't tend to share accounts, consistency is important and we all have different habits.

We're actively trying to swing Reddit, actually. Reddit's one of our prime targets, its consensus generally leaks pretty consistently out onto sites like Youtube and Facebook.

I was applying for a call center position and got referred to a different branch.

>>677752528
Verizon has the best phone coverage, no sprint does, no tmobil does, no atnt! If you look at this fucking chart here all these red dots mean a whole lot of bullshit. My three year old did it.

>>677753088
because your mother disgusts me and turned me gay

>>677753112
god you are a massive faggot
massive

>>677753155
but you were gay long before that

>>677753112
Getting payed to troll, fucking a im in the wrong business

>>677752894
Probably one of us. I don't know though, I haven't actually seen anyone mention Ted Cruz.

>>677753010
I'm sure it's been done. We don't bother to target it because the work doesn't persist for any more than a few hours.

>>677753328
they don't
they are miserable neckbeard faggots making shit up

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>>677753010
That pic makes me think of Archers mom.

>>677748293
You idiot...
did you even READ the article??

It all but outright says she put in the minimum level of effort she could without being brought up on ethics charges.

She actually begged the judge to give her a different client, ffs.

GO AWAY AND DO NOT COME BACK UNTIL DONALD TRUMP IS FORGOTTEN GRUESOME MEMORY

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>>677753010
desperate times.
surely she knows nothing of the site, one of her aids just said 'hey there's this website with millions of visitors everyday' and she was all like ' we will infiltrate it and subvert it for our evil plans muhahahahahahahaaaa'

>>677753192
He's being paid money, for shitposting...

I guess you're jealous because it just comes naturally?

Hey OP, do you have a fancy (stupid) title like Social Media Engineering or something like that?

>>677747565
If Clinton really wanted to present herself as honest she would divest herself of ANY corporate money the way Sanders has.

>>677753112
How many people is doing this fulltime at your company?, who's paying,clinton campaign directly,or dark money?

Is your company paid to work on other candidates as well? Isn't there a conflict of interest there somewhere? What do you do when there's no election going on?

>>677750808
this

>>677753192
You sound a bit salty, newfriend.

>>677753328
Yeh, that's honestly pretty much what we do.

>>677753575
prove it faggot
prove it

>>677753660
you're a liar
I'd fucking fight you IRL

>>677753660
Whats your salarylike?

>>677753494
i REALLY doubt it.
nobody's dumb enough to actively try to cultivate something on 4chan.
not anymore.

moot sold the website ffs because it was on a one-way spiral to worthlessness, ffs...


>>677753622
so would a lot of politicians.
and yet here we are.
...
I do wish Bernie would get the nomination though.
Or even a shot.

>>677752058
>making logical arguments on 4 Chan
not against Trump or for Clinton, but for on man know your audience. this ain't the place for logical fallacy pissing contests.

>>677753112
while it's entirely possible you are telling the truth...

a single leak would effectively burn the contract into dust.

that would mean a net loss of votes AND money.

why should we believe they would attempt something with a giant risk of backfiring?

>>677753660
I'll chop your fucking teeth out

>>677753874
Well he won't, because of niggers and women.

Ah, I see why 4chan is so pro Bernie now.

>>677753575
I "work in advertising."

>>677753646
Most people are hired full time, with benefits. I don't know where the money comes from, only who my client is. Yes, we work for multiple clients and no there is no conflict of interest; our clients never know who precisely we work for.

We get pretty consistent work from local elections, cable companies, and news media. Limited in scope (generally), but consistent.

>>677754216
because you're a faggot

>>677752058
yeah.... no.
the reason alex jones's stuff is even REMOTELY relevant or logically sound is because the people he appeals to have already been brainwashed.

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>>677754261
No U

>>677747565
have fun working for merkel 2.0

>>677752058
infowars is not credible

>>677754161
kek as if anything here is considered credible dumb fuck. no chance of backfire

>>677754216
I went to a Bernie rallie the other day in thr Bronx, there were tons of minorities and women there. Bernie does well among minorities 35 and under, especially in NY.

>>677754229
What are some of the talking points you guys really want to get out right now?

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>>677754290

Sounds like you haven't even given him a chance.

I would wager that if you did, you'd find that what he's actually about is very different from what the political operatives online say he's about.

Here's a challenge for you. Listen to an hour of his show online (not just a cut up clip on youtube).

>>677751920
>Noam Choamsky
>knowingly paves the way for a Republican presidency
uh-huh.

>>677753840
$12/hr with benefits.

>>677754161
I've already explained why proper leaks don't really happen.

>>677747565
You can't stump the trump

>>677754229
are most of you women, college grads? What was your job interview like, did you know what you were getting into?

>news media, cable companies
what shilling can you possibly do for these?

>>677749325
Can't you sabotage it then? Nobody wants to see this silly fake SJW bitch taking Bernie's rightful place.

>>677754229
are you told which websites to work on? are you paid per post or what?

>>677747707
Hillary is an anti-semite and so are all her supporters.

>>677754538
I didn't say minorities, I said niggers.

Look at the deep south, the most ignorant fucking lazy and violent ones vote for Hillary.

"Mmmm hmm, Lequisha girl, you know I'mma vote for Hillary because she stand by her man."

Also the belief that Hillary giving them $30 more dollars a month in "bennies" is better than Bernie creating a pathway out of poverty by reducing welfare and putting that money into job works and education programs.

"Why dat old jew trying to make me work and go to school, I hate dat place, I'm votin' Hillary."

These are not minorities.

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>>677754526

>infowars is not credible

The only people who say that are political operatives, shills and the people that they've indoctrinated.

>>677754661

I don't support Noam Chomsky. It's just a quote that has a lot of truth to it.

>>677754541
That Bernie has flipflopped on his "non-negative" campaign, and Hillary is under no obligation to agree to a debate. Special instructions for the upcoming New York primary.

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>>677747565
She can dirty politic all she wants, it won't stop her from being prosecuted. She can't be President if she's in the slammer.

>>677754746
>$12/hour
kek i am no longer jealous

>>677754746
you work in an office?

>>677755049
Aren't they going to debate in NY though?

>>677755001
I have to imagine that the super ghetto black people you're talking about don't even vote.

>>677755049
How do you spin the fact, she said "I'll debate whenever where ever" and is now being a little bitch about it.

>>677755001
>>677754538
ths, they vote because tradition
http://melanoidnation.org/why-black-people-should-not-vote-in-the-2016-presidential-election/

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>>677747565

be a Trojan kike
do it for the lulz

>>677755332
They voted 85% - 15% Look at the polling stats for uneducated black voters... lower the educational level the more go to Hillary.

>>677755402
That's just an edgy "conscious black" thing

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>>677754659
I did.
I could practically feel like my IQ was dropping the entire time.

the problem with listening to politcal rhetoric that employs an absurd premise -- much less several -- is that simply listening to the train of logic that follows REQUIRES you to at least acknowledge the possibility of that premise, regardless of its absurdity.

Even if you already know the premise is absurd to begin with -- and this can be a difficult thing even when you have a conscious awareness of the absurdity, much less only a subconscious awareness -- the more that the premise is allowed to linger in your mind, the more the arguments that build from it begin to SEEM logical and sound.

That's right...
"the more an absurd premise is repeated to a man, the more he will eventually begin to accept it."

Before you jump up and down on the tables, both conservatives and liberals engage in the practice. Hell, it's human nature.

Unfortunately, the conservatives do it to a WAY greater degree not just in terms of frequency, but in terms of intensity too.

Fuck Trump. Fuck Jones. And fuck you.

>>677755481
Well yeah I know Hillary did very well with Southern black voters so far, it's mostly because of the Clinton name.

Bernie should be the most popular candidate among blacks by far, he actually fought segregation and he specifically talks about black issues rather than dancing around the topic.

>>677755003
it's not about the general population not knowing...
it's about you listening to, and getting manipulated by, people like alex jones and donald trump.

but what do you expect from people that embrace guns with RELIGIOUS importance?

>>677754927
Not really. I don't honestly think it's been very effective. Trump is doing better online than Clinton is, from what I can tell.

>>677754928
Yes, and no. We do have quotas though.

>>677755261
Yes. Some folks work from home through the VPN, though that's a special privilege.

>>677755049
they just agreed to debate on 14th, are you for real

>>677750339
only 250? wow fucking do it anon

>>677748293
Attorney's job unfortunately, get to represent all kinds of scum.

>>677755923
I know.
The Clinton campaign won those votes due to a better run campaign operation.

The Sanders campaign simply didn't have enough experience with reaching out to voters that weren't already fully enmeshed with the political process.

To be honest, it did reveal a real weakness to the Sanders campaign-- all other things being equal, it would make Sanders the inferior cnadiate even in a general.

....

Of course, not all other things are equal, and Clinton is pretty much a WAAAAY distant 2nd best option to Bernie Sanders.

>>677749615
Donnie is polling lower than everyone else vs shillary, what the fuck are you smoking?

>>677756069
News to me. But I'm sure we'll be getting the memo soon.

>>677754983
Still better than a commie kike

>>677756276
Republicans don't win by getting people to vote for them per se.
They win by making people hate democrats.

It happened to a decorated war veteran i.e. John Kerry re: swiftboating.

How hard do you think it will be to make people hate Hillary Clinton in a general election?

>>677747898
Jesus fucking christ you and everyone you work with are shit. memes/10 for making me reply you faggot.

>>677755001
>I didn't say minorities, I said...

FUCK OFF AND DIE IN THE TRAILER PARK DUMPSTER YOU WERE FIRST DISCOVERED IN AFTER BEING BORN.

holy shit... where do you people come from? how do you even exist?

>>677756379
he's like a non practising, cultural jew, even muslims back him
>>677754983
if anything hillary is ultimate kike candidate, no morals, lawyer for hire, warhawk

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>>677755824

As much as I'd like to engage in pseudo-intellectual mental masturbation with you, I'll just close with this...

You're very deceived if you think the left employs what you described more than the right.

The fake-liberal, SJW left are basically the masters of false trains of logic.

Yes, Alex Jones does use tactics to get people to believe the information he presents, but that doesn't mean he's not being truthful.

And most of the ideas he promotes aren't even that fringe. Low taxes, sticking to the Constitution, not engaging in wars of conquest, etc. Somewhere along the line, you got convinced that those things are bad.

i wouldnt put it past her to literally have people assassinated to get elected. so youre "astroturf" reveal isnt too shocking lol.

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>>677756379

I'd rather 100 commie kikes in a row than one more southern-fried centrist puppet with Goldman Sach's fist rammed 3 feet up up their loose, punched-pecan-pie-looking, Confederate assholes.

Fuck I hate the south.

>>677756220
But isn't Bernie doing well among Hispanics at least? There were A LOT of Hispanics at the rally I went to, it was to see.

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>>677755981

lol we have an anti-2nd Amendment person now?

>2016
>believing mass shootings aren't staged
>believing guns cause crime
>believing mainstream media at all

>>677756276

That's what they would have you believe. The real stats show the exact opposite.

Who do you support for President? I'm curious.

>>677755003
>The only people who say that are political operatives, shills and the people that they've indoctrinated.
>they
Who is this they that has indoctrinated me? Illuminati? lizard men? Reptilians? da joos?

That is exactly why infowars is not credible. Most of what Alex and co say unverifiable innuendo.

>>677757302
Are you just being a contrarian for the sake of doing so?

>>677747898
I work for Leo Bernet and we are also AstroTurfing for sanders

>>677754746
lmao fuck ur life anon

>>677757411
FINDING NEMO IS A JEWISH CONSIRACY

>>677756837
calm ur tits hes right, those are some shitty black people he just described and it is quite accurate

>>677756981
>The fake-liberal, SJW left are basically the masters of false trains of logic.

uh-huh.

leaving aside that hillary's cornermen engage in the practice so much that they cause me to think of republicans...
(and much more rarely the liberals in the other corners...)

I'll just use your reaction to what I'm about to say to prove my point:
Guns are NOT sacrosant.
Granted, it would be wrong to absolutely ban them, absolutely confiscate them, absolutely prohibit their ownership or sale...
but SOME level of gun control is a good idea that will keep the streets from overflowing with blood compared to ZERO gun control.

Now...
retort.

>>677757531
Agreed.

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>>677757411

This is where you've been lied to...

If you'd actually listen to what Alex Jones talks about (as opposed to what people SAY he talks about), you'd know that he never mentions "lizard men", "reptilians" or "joos".

You're thinking of fringe nutjobs who spread theories like that on purpose, in order to discredit real information that actually CAN be proven.

Alex Jones is the real deal. Maybe give him a chance.

OP, you've got to post this everywhere
http://www.inquisitr.com/2932016/bernie-sanders-tells-wife-jane-not-to-stand-next-to-him-could-it-cost-bernie-the-presidency-video/

>>677757702
no he isn't.
he's making the armchair conjectures from the sweat-stained under-stuffed, TV-room chair with a spring missing in the tv-room

>>677756220

lol Clinton shill, her operation is shit. her rallies are shit. her platform is weak as fuck.

its all about the main stream media helping her by having people misinformed and 3rd wave feminist who don't want to listen to logic....and want a vagina in the white house even if its detrimental to themselves and the nation

>>677756952

yep

>>677758011
you idiot.
did you even read what i typed?

i all but admitted that i HATE hillary clinton

>>677757917
right...
so what was it he really thought about 9/11?

>>677757522
wtf I seriously doubt that

and if true then its like if someone like Soros was trying to dirty him or something

>>677750339
What company do you work for?

>>677756220
>>677755923
and early voting, early voting absolutely kill sanders, even though exit poll has him winning
>>677756220
well in a general he would have the DNC's public blessings and backing presumably??

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>>677757822

>Guns are NOT sacrosant.

No, but the unalienable right of the people to have effective means to defend themselves is. In 2016, that means guns.

>Granted, it would be wrong to absolutely ban them, absolutely confiscate them, absolutely prohibit their ownership or sale...
but SOME level of gun control is a good idea that will keep the streets from overflowing with blood compared to ZERO gun control.

The classic propaganda tactic of calling for "reasonable restrictions" and "common sense laws"...

That isn't going to fly with anyone that's informed. The goal is to absolutely ban them, and I know that better than most.

I live in Australia, where after an extremely suspicious mass shooting, virtually all guns were banned.

To own the most measly of guns, you need a license; which you must go through hell and back, wait months for, and have a "legitimate reason" to obtain. Furthermore, self defense isn't considered a "legitimate reason".

It's not a coincidence that they've banned guns in virtually every country on the planet that they control, save for a couple.

Again, the ultimate goal is to ban them. You're kidding yourself if you believe otherwise.

>>677758899
sigh...

i really wish he would be our next president...

>>677756038
cmon OP if you out the Clinton campaign you'll be on the news for quite a while and I'm sure youll get Bernie supporter pussy or bottoms if that ur thing. hell I'm sure le reddit army might be down to pay for ur lawyers and such. only bad thing is you'll never have a job in that industry again....but really 12 bux an hour?

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>>677758346

Look it up. Don't rely on me to tell you.

>>677757917
> you'd know that he never mentions "lizard men", "reptilians" or "joos".
Well here he is in a Lizard man mask talking about obamacare and "cancer viruses." He seems to imply he is a Vaccine Skeptic? Even if he is attempting some type of satire the presentation is still crazy
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAOPNX0qZUY

fwi, your pic quote is from a guy who literally believes in Reptilians and how they control the world.

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>>677747565
>I work for an advertising agency.
Do it.

>>677759031

after that crazy teenager shot up an elementary I would have hope some of you gun funatics would look at yourselves and how defending your hobby allowed for that tragedy to happen.

if theres a revolution/civil war in the future, having small arms like m16 and machine guns won't really make a difference. its about convincing the people already in the armed forces to not follow orders and in some cases go against their commanding officers

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>>677755402
>trump
>"white supremacist"
> mfw trump is the only candidate with policies specifically to benefit niggers
They're just not worth our time.

>>677759031
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....

Holy fuck.

Talk about proving my point.
And i TOLD YOU that this was what I was trying to prove.

You actually SPELLED OUT the absurd premise:
>The classic propaganda tactic of calling for "reasonable restrictions" and "common sense laws"... The goal is to absolutely ban them, and I know that better than most.

I know it won't matter to you... but saying "their real goal is to ban all guns!" is like one of the over-the-top fmeinists saying "their real goal is to bolster the patriarchy!"


Now, it MIGHT be possible that either of these premises are true...
But, it might also be possible that OJ was really innocent.

At the very least, either premise is questionable.

And yet here you are...
using it as the foundation-stone of why every single gun control bill must be fought tooth and nail.

Or... would you like to defend the right of any and all to own belt-fed machine-guns next?

>>677751819
This is pretty much what I see happening. It's funny and sad to talk to people who consider themselves free-thinking independent voters who also understand quite a bit about the political process, but think this woman already has the democratic nomination. She doesn't. They're not free-thinkers. They are influenced by the opinions and words of people who they perceive to be like themselves. If they keep hearing something enough times they believe it.

Anyway, she's a rotten human being. So is Trump.

>>677759487
the rednecks were already manipulated into betraying their country and raising a flag in opposition...

who knows? maybe these "patriots" will try it again some day

OP has left the building?
http://catalog.neet.tv/pol/ would love to have you OP

>>677759893
Bernie COULD win the nomination.
But we're talking about a hole-in-one on a par 5, here.

Not impossible... you'll see it once or twice a week if you work at the golf business...

But... its still pretty unlikely.

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>>677759487

>how defending your hobby

Textbook propaganda tactic of trivializing a basic human right by calling it a "hobby".

>if theres a revolution/civil war in the future, >having small arms like m16 and machine guns >won't really make a difference.

Actually bro, that's one of the biggest lies out there.

The U.S. Military, as well as the C.I.A. have done actuaries, admitting that a war against a determined, armed populace is unsustainable and un-winnable. I could go into the specifics of why that's the case, but it would be pointless given that this is 4chan.

Furthermore, most mass shootings are blatantly staged. Anyone who does a modicum of research will eventually reach that conclusion.

And even if they weren't, and you insist on believing the fable of the "lone nut", they have all occurred in gun free zones.

Furthermore...

Mass shootings account for an average of 0.2% of all murders committed in the U.S. According to a Congressional Research Service report published in 2013, a total of 547 people have died in mass shootings over the preceding 30 years.

To put that in perspective, over 20 times more people die at the hands of drunk drivers in a single year than mass shooters have killed in 30 years.

To put it another way, you're 54 times more likely to die in America by falling down the stairs.

To put it yet another way, you're almost 3 times more likely to die by being struck by lightning!

>>677760044
if he does then the earth is literally saved

why do so many people think global warming/ climate change is kike propaganda. its not.

we might have water wars in this century

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>>677759760

I'll also ad this, and then I'm bowing out...

America is virtually one of the last countries remaining that still has a strong streak of liberty-based culture, and have thus held onto their right to keep and bear arms. This is why the American public is demonized and ridiculed in the international media virtually every day. They need to destroy America's image in the eyes of the world, in order to put the final nails in the coffin of the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights, and thus bring down the last physical threat to their agenda.

America, as you know, is number 1 in the world, in gun ownership; yet not even in the top 100 countries in its murder rate.

The entire notion of America having a "gun violence" problem, or even the notion that America has outstandingly high crime is a myth, and a total fraud that has been perpetuated to demonize America on the world stage and brainwash people into viewing America (and its culture) as an example of “how not to be”.

The very term “gun violence” is a fraud. Putting super-emphasis on people killed using guns (as opposed to any other means) is about as relevant to public safety and crime metrics as blaming car accidents in South Korea on Hyundai.

The only areas in America that have high crime rates are specifically those where draconian, unconstitutional gun control laws have been pushed through - places like N.Y. City, L.A., Washington D.C., Chicago (the most dangerous city in the developed world), etc. Subtract those places from the overall picture, and America's crime rate drops to being on par with that of any other developed nation.

The safest city in America (as ranked by Forbes) is Plano, Texas. If it were its own country, it would have lower rates of murder and overall violent crime than Australia, where I live.

>>677747565
No, you're not. Everyone on 4chan is either a Trump or sometimes a Bernie shill.

>>677760096
>The U.S. Military, as well as the C.I.A. have done actuaries, admitting that a war against a determined, armed populace is unsustainable and un-winnable.
Well we found that out in Iraq the hard way now didn't we??

>most mass shootings are blatantly staged.
GASP! ZOMG! Look! There's a black guy behind you! AH!

Yeah...
see? you're pretty much LOCKING OUT the alternatives by REFUSING to consider that maybe, just MAYBE, some of the things you're saying MIGHT not be true.

If you start off with a theory about a "secret agenda"...
with ANYTHING...


THEN YES. YOU'RE PARANOID.

>>677754746
>12/hour

You don't really work at an ad agency then Kek

>>677760402
To be fair, I'll trust the guy who had to attend extended safety courses, academy training, and civil service exams having a gun rather than some random guy at Walmart.

I live in a relatively shitty area, and I trust NONE of my neighbors. Allowing them to bear arms seems like a problem just waiting to become a crisis.

>>677760096
so this teenager was told what? shot ur mom, shot some adults at this elementary, and most importantly shot a fuckload of defenseless kids.

>the teen responds "why?"

for the lawlz and because we want to take away your right to have weapons.

the only way small arms would win a war against America's modern military is if we had legit organization and leaders and most importantly that you gun funatics share your weapons but the majority of you fucks seem like the kid in kindergarten who never shared their toys

>>677758365
400k deal

>>677760402
holy shit there are still retards who believe Stefan's bullshit...

>>677760402
The only thing that America is #1 in at all is gun-ownership.

It's pretty far down in the rankings in EVERYTHING else.

An dhonestly... i do not give a FUCK about guns. Neither way.
Own them, don't own them, have sex with them.

But that's not the point I'm trying to make here.
You've pretty much admitted that you will not even be OPEN to considering that the debate ought take place at all.

Sound a bit like "suppressing thought" to you?

Anyway, this is what Alex Jones does all thetime.
So fuck jones
fuck trump
and fuck YOU.
.
.
.
faggot

>>677760841
Not an argument

>>677760044
People said the same thing months ago. They said he would do so poorly, he'd drop out. You know what? Fuck that. Your vote still matters. Go vote for the candidate you want in your primary. The general is where you do shitty mental gymnastics to justify strategic voting.

>>677760402
You're totally misinformed, NY is the safest big city in the country, and Chicago is nowhere near being the most dangerous city in the developed world

>>677760402
>as blaming car accidents in South Korea on Hyundai
actually... they were the target of a heavy government investigation for concealing known safety defects.

Now... go have sex with your gun.

>>677760926
Don't forget Incarcerations per Capita.

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>>677760563

>Well we found that out in Iraq the hard way >now didn't we??

Yes, we did. Did you assume that I was for pointless wars of aggression?

>GASP! ZOMG! Look! There's a black guy >behind you! AH!

When did I ever mention black people? You're diverting the conversation onto unrelated topics.

I'm actually seriously trying to tell you something...

Do actual research on mass shootings. Start with 1999 Columbine and you'll see how suspicious that was (reports of over half a dozen separate shooters, etc). Then move onto Sandy Hook.

This isn't an issue that you can afford to get information from the mainstream media about.

Truth IS stranger than fiction, and it's only paranoia if it's not true.

>>677747898
JESUS CHRIST

You Americans have no fucking idea how democracy works , do you ?

>>677760831
more context plz

>>677760981
sigh... no. i didn't.
:(

I didn't say hole-in-one on a par 5, back then.

I said par3.

And I already voted in Ohio.

Oh, Bernie. Please pull it off!

Politics are very transparent and I trust my sources


That being said my votes have changed many important things

Global stuff

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>>677760743

>>677761156

yooropar

>>677761370
>1776 - Height of war technology is the cannon
>2016 - Height of war technology is unknown, and it's unlikely that nuclear weapons would be utilized, but SCUD missiles are pretty mean, and they don't have to travel 7000 miles if their target is in the US.

>>677761138
George Washington put down a anti-government rebellion himself. Look up the Whiskey Rebellion.

>>677761156
We're a republic, not a democracy ;^)

>>677761138
>When did I ever mention black people? You're diverting the conversation onto unrelated topics.
No... I was insulting you.

And for what it's worth... yes. I HAVE read into the details. Very closely.

Gun control will likely neither lead to a substantial uptick in violent crimes...
nor a substantial downtick.

It'll have all the effect of installing toilet paper where oyu have to tear from the top instead of the bottom.

In fact, even what I said about the belt-gun machineguns was BAIT.

Even if ownership of those things were to become more commonplace... the statistical effects would be slim.

The reaosn I even put that out there was to see you go into OVERDRIVE about the matter.

Simply CARING about guns that badly, whether for or against, is a waste of energy and a confusion of priorities.
Much like CARING what Kim Kardashian was wearing last week.

Meh. It honestly takes less energy to just insult you. So, here we go:

your mother is a whore.

/thread

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>>677761621

>>677761370
that's different, if you want to win a war you need the peoples support most importantly. everything else is secondary.
I'm not saying you guys should not have guns but like your other post >>677759031
you gun fags really need to calm ur tits because its getting out of hand.

>>677761878
Should private citizens be permitted to own surface to air missiles?

>>677762028
Yes. No. Maybe.

The guy's in YEEEEE-HAW mode right now.

It's like what happens when you tell an iMac owner that he paid too much for his stuff.

He will defend wha the's saying to hell and back.

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>>677761798

>Interest in celebrity losers = interest in civil rights
>state of the mentally enslaved moronic mind, circa 2016

http://www.infowars.com/statistics-prove-more-guns-less-crime/

>>677760402
oh ffs...
speaking of bait.

that was pre-baked copy-pasta.

talk about astroturfing. honestly?
i feel insulted.

i wonder if that's reason enough to support gun control-- TO PISS YOU OFF IN RETURN.

And i mean YOU specifically.

>>677762226
The Civil Rights movement was nonviolent.

>>677762028
I was gonna say that. there should be a public, non-military, civilian organization with an atom bomb to keep the government in check. if they ever get to fascist or whatever then bomb bitches.

>what nuclear deterrent really should mean

>>677762226
a civil right with all the practical importance of the civil right that protects us from the "quartering of troops."

>>677762396
oh, yes it was.
the minorities were beaten brutally as they usually are.
except this time it counted for something.

>>677762468
>there should be a public, non-military, civilian organization with an atom bomb to keep the government in check

Oh, I see.
And... what will keep the "public, non-military, civilian organization with an atom bomb" in check?

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>>677762028

>The classic propaganda "2nd amendment means people can own bombs hurr durr" argument

The historical, encyclopedic and military definition of 'arms' is quite clear - a weapon that can be carried on one's person and can be used to kill individual enemy combatants (explosives can not selectively target an individual person).

Hundreds of years ago, arms meant swords. In 2016, arms means firearms. In the future, who knows...

>>677760933
thats a fucking fact idiot do research on this shady fuck.

>>677762603
whats to keep individuals from using machine guns or assault rifles from shooting up a elementary school?

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>>677762396

Now you're trying to characterize gun owners as violent? Where'd you get that talking point from, the feds?

Gun owners are statistically the most law abiding group in society.

>>677762226
hey, ASSHOLE.
i might as well have written those damn statistics myself.

my point is that you're putting your energy into a cause that doesn't matter, either way.

there are a THOUSAND other ways to resist "governmental oppression" besides taking up arms and rebelling.

for instance...
putting your energy into campaign finance reform...
or putting your energy into increased school funding.

BOTH of those would effectively keep government more accountable. And TREMENDOUSLY.

The likelihood of taking up arms becoming the best way to resist governmental oppression is on par with the likelihood of my house being stormed by angry giraffes.

It's precisely why I did not pay the extra $3 to insure my house against giraffe attacks on my homeowner's insurance.

>tfw am being stupid enough to argue with a religious zealot

>>677762783
the government! lol!

what was it you were trying to keep in check again?

>>677762660
nigger you are saying I deserve to buy awesome high end weapons even if it allows for crazy people to get their hands on some too......

Again I'm not saying lets kill the 2nd amendment. I'm saying that shit gives the general populace a little too much freedom, the type of freedom that can quickly turn into anarchy

>>677762660
Kevin D. Szczepanski, Searching for the Plain Meaning of the Second Amendment, 44 Buff. L. Rev. 197, 203 (1996). The argument holds that since “the exact scope of the individual right is not self-evident, and is not expressly defined in the Constitution,” but that under the individual rights interpretation “the federal and the state governments may not infringe on the right,” the logical conclusion is that an individual may keep and bear any weapons desired.

>>677762925
well no kidding dumbass.
you break even minor laws = you're not allowed to own guns at all.

I expected you to take my bait early on to prove you were unhinged...
(too bad you'll never see it)
but you're putting on a good show for the rest.

I didn't think I would succeed THIS much...

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>>677762940

>there are a THOUSAND other ways to resist "governmental oppression" besides taking up arms and rebelling.

Absolutely agree. When did I ever say that a violent confrontation was anything other than a last resort?

If it gets to the point where we are forced to defend ourselves in a physical war, that means we have lost the info-war.

">tfw am being stupid enough to argue with a religious zealot"

lol I'm an atheist.

>>677763217
DURRRRR...
yeah, again. DOESN'T MATTER.
So... what's your take on quartering of troops?

Or... for that matter...
restrictions on the use of pre-baked copy-pasta on /b/ ?

>>677762925
I'm saying that the notion that guns are the sole defenders and pushers of civil rights and civil liberties is untrue, because peaceful, non-violent protests have been successful.

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>>677763202

The problem is, the statistics don't support that assumption. The statistics show that where guns are easier to get, you see the lowest crime rates.

Hence why mass shootings (staged or not) only ever happen in gun-free zones.

Also why Texas is a much safer state than most of the rest.

>>677763298
>Absolutely agree. When did I ever say that a violent confrontation was anything other than a last resort?
You said so time and again in here.

I really doubt you have this much on your hard drive devoted to "expanding education" or "pressing for campaign finance reform" or the other 998 ways to call into use, first.

Ergo...
you're giving this crap undue focus.

THAT is your mistake.

>lol I'm an atheist.

no... I'm pretty sure you worship guns.

>>677763298
He's implying that your interpretation of the 2nd amendment is zealous, in the same manner as a religious zealot.

>>677762768
It's a meme. Stefan and his followers say everything the don't like is "not an argument."

>>677763463
the guys that own guns proudly are usually the ones that are for the SUPPRESSION of rights...

Trump's crew = absolutely opposd to anything about gun control
Trump's crew = also want to discriminate against people on the basis of RELIGION

Also... isn't it a litlte funny that the guys that make these arguments...
are the descendets of the men who fought to preserve SLAVERY?

civil rights...
uh-huh. sure.

>>677763414
I think you're assuming I'm someone else.

I'm contesting that guy's definition of "Arms" because in the context of the constitution, even if it's colloquially understood as weapons that can be carried by a person, "Arms" is not strictly defined, so it COULD be interpreted as "Private citizens should be allowed to own nukes."

Which invalidates his argument.

>>677751920
that video is a joke

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>>677763588

>You said so time and again in here.

No.. No, I didn't. Maybe you're just projecting your assumptions onto me.

I'm into non-violence first and foremost. Violent resistance is always a last resort, no matter what threat one may face.

We won't start the fight, but we will finish it.

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>>677763891
Yep. Wasn't talking to you.

>>677764108
>>You said so time and again in here.

right... care to go back and read the rest of what i typed there, chief?


>>677764269
Is that Trump... or Clinton?

>>677762660
small arms have killed more people than nukes....IDIOT

/thread

>>677753494
what a witch

>>677764825
that implies she'll try to lure them in her house to bake into candy.

its considerably more likely that she'll lure them into her house to talk them into contributing to her campiagn

>>677765011
which will result in their death by boredom