>>677740970
extremely liberal, I'm talking SJW feminazi type shit

>>677740970
It is the placement of someone who should commite suicide asap

>>677740970
you would fit in the faggot party.

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Anarcho Communist/Collectivist/Socialist according to this.

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>>677740970
is this a common placement for atheists to get?

>>677740970
According to this chart you're an unbearable faggot

>>677741964
Not really. Usually more left from what I've seen.

>>677741305
Do you even know what a liberal is? Fucking retarded brainwashed redneck

>>677741693
That's interesting because I used to believe I was probably just authoritarian type communist. What's the key differences from anarcho communism and more authoritarian?

>social libertarian
Pick one

Im on the line for nationalism and conservatism

>>677742763
He's like /pol/ in a nutshell lol

>>677741693
Anarchism isn't on the right side though, they basically want to remove currencies and money apart from individual anarchists.

>>677742763
Anything not blue is liberal as far as I'm concerned

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pls r8

>>677743723
did you land on national socialism? ffs

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Welp

OP here. Can anyone explain what the main differences between my placement and traditional communism would be?

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been getting further left over the years.

>>677744542
Basically the need for a government. Anarcho communism wants freedom for the people, both economic and authority. Authoritarian communism just want economic freedom/equality.

>>677743363
4/10

>>677744542
Communism demands extreme regulation and lacks most (if not all) market freedoms. The regulation demanded by communists is generally only seen by them as ideal with the use of computers.

You are what I'd call an anarcho-syndicalist. You believe in the public ownership of the means of production, and in semicentralized (they call it decentralized, but I find that wrong) regulation of the market.
That means you'd believe that every sector should be regulated by different interest groups in order to achieve optimal use of resources and distribution of products.

Additionally, you believe in lots of political freedoms that Authoritarian Communists generally don't. They prefer one-party representative democracies, and it seems like you'd prefer non-partisan direct democracies in a region with full rights of self-determination.

IMO the political compass is nonsense.

If you support pure dictatorship, you can't really say you're "left" or "right" authoritarian, because the dictator will do whatever he wants, and that could be anything.

If you support pure democracy, you can't really be "left" or "right" democratic, since the majority will pick whatever they pick and it could be either one.

If you support pure anarchism, you can't be "capitalist" or "communist", because no one will be able to enforce it either way, and whatever happens happens.

So in my opinion, the spectrum gets "tied up" at these points. You can only be left- or right- leaning if you're not pure authoritarian, democratic, or anarchistic. Because there is only one type of pure authoritarianism, only one type of pure democracy, and only one type of pure anarchy.

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This is me. I am definitely not a SJW.

>>677745732
Thank you for the explanation. If you're still here or anyone else would like to chime in, what's some of the pros and cons of this political stance?

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seems reasonable

>>677741964
no atheists in the green section I would say. But good on you if you are one!

>>677746337
What you find ideal has no relation to what is achievable or not. The political compass attempts to (partially) map ideologies accordingly to four parameters. The cartesian-styled spectrum is limited, but it is less limited (and less non-sensical) than the number line-styled one.

It is not attempting to tell you that, in a multi-party representative democracy, most economies tend to fluctuate towards center/centre-left. It is attempting to tell your ideology in accordance to the dream nation you find to be ideal in every aspect.

Mine is a few notches lower than Hitler.

>>677746415
Read a bit of Hayek to understand how pure decentralization of market regulation has an actual better stance than semi or total centralization.

To summarize it: It is either impossible or infeasible to gather enough information about the market as a centralized group than as a single consumer/producer that is simply reacting to the market without any concern to what any of the market's fluctuations actually mean.

This means that it is generally better for a market to have a bunch of people simply reacting to market changes without understanding them than a centralized authority wasting time on gathering information to finally take an action that might or might not break an entire sector.

However, this total decentralization also has its downsides. Mostly because people tend to be stupid, entrepeneurs and consumers alike.

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should i kill self?

link faggot

>>677746875
How you get there is easily as important as the final goal. (Path dependence is very real.) For example, that's the primary difference between the various types of socialism.

>>677746337
You don't actually understand what you're talking about.

>>677747588
also i'm definitely not a sjw propaganda spreader

>>677740970

CYAN ATTACKS RED AND FORMS ALLEGIANCE TO BLUE.

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Trump has nothing on me.

>>677747862

*LIME... Ah, FML

>>677747705
Most definitely, but if you simply have a dream of eventually achieving that in such a way you also find ideal — in a bolshevik or menshevik fashion — that is going to affect your position in the political compass as well. So, yeah, the compass makes sense, even though it is not perfect.

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r8

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Anyone you DOESN'T land on green is obviously brainwashed by the media/government.

>>677748167
Too low. Would not discuss politics with/10

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im pretty glad to be in the green sector.

Throwing hat into ring. Don't have the pic but I'm -1.37, -1.67

>>677747588
na you good.

>>677748116
A lot like ran/Ron Paul. 2/10

>>677748015
It's impossible to continuously map a space of paths onto two-dimensional space.

>>677748370
Disgusting. Take your anarch-socialism/communism to the African tribes where they might actually work.

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>>677740970
>>677745060
>>677745861
>>677746339
>>677743723
Kill Yourselves
>>677747588
Yes
>>677741964
>>677743036
>>677743648
>>677746474
>>677747925
>>677748116
my niggas
>>677748370
You shouldn't kill yourself
>>677748290
>"Anyone you DOESN'T land on green is obviously brainwashed by the media/government."
Trying leaving the house once in a while you worthless welfare faggot

>>677748499
Actually his coordinates are almost centrist. I'm not in 100% agreement with this guy, but at least he's not crazy radical anything.

>>677747445
Will read. Any other recommendations on other people who have this stance?

>>677748563
Mah nigga fam. Respect bruh.

>>677748673
>almost centrist
He is in the centre of green,
are you blind?

>>677748354
well what the fuck is the point of discussing politics only with people you agree with? sounds kind of fucking retarded.

>>677748474
sorry, I meant bijection

>>677748563
>>677748370

I shouldn't kill myself cause im closer towards the right?

>>677748474
That's why it's not perfect: There are too many political stances that go way beyond any one-dimensional (number line), two-dimensional (cartesian-like), or three-dimensional could ever achieve to perfectly represent. That doesn't mean there is no sense to this compass in particular. It is very open about the parameters it uses, and it works quite well on representing them (despite the fact I still think this test is too short).

>>677748814
i discuss with people i disagree you fucking autistic autist.

>>677748563
>green
>kill yourselves

toppest fucking kek

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>>677748563
GUY'S WE FOUND HIM!
go die in a fire you fucking redneck prick

>>677740970
The green party is pretty left libertarian.

>>677748975
cool

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How did I do?

>>677748975
so you agree with him then?

>>677748499
I certainly don't like communism but i think a few more parts of our society (mainly healthcare) could be socialized.

>>677749009
Edgy? Check
Makes reference to Trump? Check
Tell people to kill themselves? Check
Calls rightists 'rednecks'? Check

By looking at this, you sound like a radical Marxist. Please keep talking about how you loved Stalin's cock in your ass.

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>>677749235
Seems about American to me.

>>677748563
I have a big feeling that you pick your political opinions based on how edgy and offensive they seem rather than what actually works
>nice try

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>>677749235
fence-sitter

>>677749300 this.
>>677748975

>>677748688
Keynes (be careful about this one), von Mises, Murray Rothbard, David Friedman.

Read them always with lots of skepticism. Some of Mises' books, for an instance, might criticize Socialism without a deep understanding of what it really is. Nonetheless, you'll gain a lot of insight on economics out of most of their books.

Stalin was objectively right.

>>677749486
Is that good or bad, though?

The way I see it, I'm capable of acknowledging multiple points of view and finding a fair compromise between them.

>>677749604
In what way? He ran an authoritarian communist regime. Political autists would call him a Marxist-Leninist, both of which were communists.

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>>677749009

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I'm more right and higher up I feel personally, toward a form of Fascism. Probably half way at the very top of the blue.

>>677742772
One believes in a state the other doesn't

>>677749821
No, you don't want to pick sides because you either don't understand or care not to.

By being in the centre everyone hates you, faggot.

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>>677749821
Probably good. You may be a robot though....better check under your skin.

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Okay...

>>677749995
Picking sides it what's wrong with this country, though. The retarded mentality that you HAVE to be either Republican or Democrat has broken the system. We need more moderates who won't force a shutdown because they can't get their way.

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Took that test a few years ago and it was 100% loaded propositions designed to make the writers feel good about themselves. Absolute shit, in essence.

Looks like it hasn't changed.

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>>677740970
Eh. Some of the questions are leading, and are really trying to pull at emotional strings instead of logical answers.

>>677750319
I presume you're American. I'm not. I don't live in a retarded country.

So the sole purpose of your beliefs is to preserve something that is completely broken? You're an idiot.

>>677750319
"Moderates" are just squishes that cant make up their minds, and think they are better than everyone else.

>>677750319
A big issue with that is that in America the republicans are extremely on the right, with democrats being very mid right. A "moderate" would still be very right leaning.

>>677750501
purple box master race.

>>677750501
Sadly, most people tend to have ideologies that are strongly influenced by their emotions. The issue here is that this test tends to draw most people to the left, because the emotional-driven questions are loaded to bring common people towards it.

It's the reason why a majority of those taking the test fall on the green spectrum near the center.

>>677750462
Leftist propaganda.
The Nazis are fucking retarded autists who killed all my family and caused me to get raped multiple times, so it's foolish to be one, right?

Their questions in a nutshell.

>>677750898
nah, the test biases the questions to get that outcome.

>>677751005
That's exactly what I said.

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>>677750319
A man with belief is worth 10 times a man who doesn't have any. Creation is fanaticism, ideas are born out of fanaticism, and if you don't fight for a belief, then you decline into mediocrity.

I'd take a far left fanatical Communist over a centrist any day of the week, at least he has an ideal he's striving toward. Proves he has strong character.

The reason the US has fallen democratically speaking is because people have become moderate overwhelmingly so, and there hasn't been enough strong Republicans or Democrats to fight for their ideals, and they've allowed corruption into the system.

>>677750747
>America
America is a continent filled with countries of different political leanings. The United States of America (USA) is the country that makes the rest of the world look like cucks, and is the last bastion of liberty and accountability.

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>>677751331
Agree completely.

>>677743036
Cruz supporter?

>>677743648
Are you supporting Cruz?

>>677741693
>national socialism on the left
>fascism on the right
That makes no sense.

>>677750898
Emotions and logic goes hand in hand.
It's very hard to have one without the other. Most people's logic is driven by emotions because humans logic comes FROM emotions.

>>677750986
How is this propaganda when the "emotionally" fueled qurstions cater to the left and right?

>>677750462
>>677750898
>>677750986
>>677751005
>>677751255

I'm glad some people can see through the test.

>>677741693
apparently Libertarianism

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>>677740970
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>>677752030
They are completely independent things. Being rational is not being emotional at all. There is no relationship to one another.

People's choices can be influenced solely by logic, solely by emotion, or by both in varying degrees. Still, they don't go hand-in-hand.

>>677751397
>obviously speaking about the USA
How does America make the rest of the world look like cucks? One of the only things we come 1st in globally is our military spending and I believe incarceration.

>>677741305
Nah, feminazis and sjw are extremely authoritarian

>>677749235
on a scale of 1-10 how ready for Hillary are you?

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>>677740970
Tree hugging dude weed lmao communist SJW

>>677740970
The batshit insane party for people who don't listen to opposing points of view, but who also enjoy guns

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>>677740970
This test is biased as fuck. Don't be fooled. Anyone who isn't a regressive psychopath will be put ~60% points to the left regardless. I'm authoritarian and it put me in the green box. Go figure.

>>677752030
>Emotions and logic goes hand in hand.
>It's very hard to have one without the other. Most people's logic is driven by emotions because humans logic comes FROM emotions.

No. People's emotions are drawn from chemical and hormonal changes in the brain cause by a stimulus in the medulla oblongata. Logic comes from conclusions drawn from facts usually done in the cerebral cortex. Emotion hardly even counts as thought. 2+2=4 no matter how unfair, and mad it makes Tyrone.

>>677752491
OP here. I've noticed that too. I believe in equal rights, social benefits and programs, you name it. most sterotypical sjws claim to support most of my ideals but the way they enforce it is totally different. Even when it comes to trans rights, I am fully in support, but think things like "gender fluid aromatic otherkin" and shit like that is ridiculous.
My wording is awful on this, but I'm sure you know what I mean.

>>677752766
I'm surprised the test said nothing about gun control. I'm actually against guns.

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>>677740970
lel

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Hmmmm

>>677753410
How can one be against an object that has no opinions?

>>677753700
How can one shitpost so bad?

>https://www.politicalcompass.org/test
I am an atheist and scored similarly, i am a european conservative, i like free trade but we need enviromental regulation.

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I'm a moderate liberal. Isn't that obvious?

>>677753700
Every right winger says this
>can't infer when someone says they're against guns they mean they want them banned/heavily regulated
come on now

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>>677753410
Why are you against niggers shooting other niggers and white people defending themselves?

What's annoying is the subjective nature of the test, I hate personality and opinions tests because they never give specifics.

For example it gives a question where I could agree with it or disagree based on the context but there is no fucking context.

>>677753839
I mean I find it funny that there are very few objects that you can say "I'm against" to.

It's like saying "I'm against clarinets." Kind of silly because clarinets are quite useless without a player.

Are you against guns? If you were famous with millions of people who possibly hate you- would you be against the guns being held by your security detail?

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Almost like Milton Friedman, feel proud of myself

>>677753854
That actually sounds about right. euro countries seem to be more moderate/left leaning. America is so right winged that anyone near green/red is seen as an extreme communist or something
>I actually am but whatever the standards suck

"A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system."

the fuck is this shit supposed to be

So where would I stand in my political views according to the chart? Post #53473

>>677754536
Clarinets are not made for killing, though.

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>>677754504
http://www.abtirsi.com/quiz2.php

Try this test.

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Dammit, I wanted a decisive answer.

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am i hated yet?

>>677754841
>Clarinets are not made for killing, though.

Nor are knifes, piano string, ammonium nitrate, pressure cookers, and plastic bags.

>>677755218
Some knives are. It's not very easy to kill with a clarinet.

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Am not hitler

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>>677754859
>>677754504

right well just finished the test, not really the position I expected but I'm pleased with the neutrality at least.

Thing is just about every question it gave I could think of a contradictory reason to why it would be a bad/good thing

>>677755343
Blunt force trauma is arguably more effective than the cavitation created by the penetrating injuries of a bullet.

>>677754841
This

>>677755218
A lot harder to murder a building full of people with a knife vs a gun.
Piano strings aren't marketed as a killing machine because it's a lot harder to commit a mass murder with it.

>>677755175
You are a: Socialist Non-Interventionist Bleeding-Heart Progressive

Collectivism score: 67%
Authoritarianism score: 0%
Internationalism score: -17%
Tribalism score: -100%
Liberalism score: 67%

>>677755684
I would disagree.

>>677749821
>>677750319

In my opinion being moderate is just about the best thing you could be. If you lean toward either side you naturally seek confirmation bias. The fact that you're neutral doesn't mean you don't make any judgement, but rather you are capable of analyzing the situation and acting upon what you see.

The thing a lot of these people don't understand is that being neutral doesn't mean that you haven't decided. It simply means you don't hold any sort of bias towards one position or the other. That's why the only response you will ever get as a moderate is typically the usual le epic political comic or some arbitrary and retarded notion that by not being biased you're incapable of coming to a conclusion.


It's like this, if you have two groups of people. Those in favor of apples and those who enjoy oranges. If you already like apples and you see a discussion about which is better, you're naturally more inclined to agree. Obviously the more center you are on the discussion the less bias you have. A moderate person might come to the conclusion that oranges are better because of some sort of objective fact like the skin being of more use than an apple's

>>677755693
But it's a lot easier to murder a building full of people with ammonium nitrate and diesel fuel than using a gun. You don't even need a background check.

>>677750725
Those are centrists nig, I'm a moderate conservative on the account I want tighter immigration policies and believe there should be tax cuts on some things but prefer a pro choice country without religious influences.

>>677754230
>don't feel the need to be a painfully obvious racist for the lels or to feel edgy
Also every race is murdered at a higher rate by their own race vs another. It's because typically, a white person lives around other white people in white neighborhoods. Therefore, since there's predominantly more white people in an area there's a much higher chance of white people interacting with each other which would result in a higher concentration of white on white deaths.
That being said, if you take away systematic oppression on other people you wouldn't have groups of people with a lower education and quality of life being put in a situation where they feel they need to commit crimes to get by.
>consider that if people aren't poor, miserable, and abandoned by their government the crime would be extremely low.
Just on the topic of gun control, Australia is far from a perfect country but I believe it was in the 90s when they basically banned guns. Instead of still seeing gun related deaths at the same rate or higher, it plummeted to where there was hardly any whatsoever. They went over a decade while this was in place with no mass shootings. People didn't even switch to other means of murdering someone. The rate of murder by other weapons stayed exactly the same. (Which I believe accounted for less than 5% of murders, might want to fact check that)

>>677756608
systematic oppression such as?

Not that anon but the implication that there is some force keeping a young black person from going to college and making something of himself seems laughable. I mean what, is there a group of people with any sort of influence out there preventing them from accomplishing this?

I'm not implying black people are inferior, but they don't seem to be climbing out of the hole any faster than the Irish, Chinese, Russians, or Italian immigrants. And they've been here longer to boot.

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>>677740970
>https://www.politicalcompass.org/test
>I don't mind fags but I wish they would shut up about it
>I'm a flat taxer
>Monsanto did nothing wrong
>The welfare system is fucked up and I never had trouble finding work even slob work because I asked for it and did what was needed
>I'm nonreligious and I think that religion is a private matter
>I'm seriously pro gun
>I just wish to be left alone, taxed flatly, and allowed to live discreetly and in peace.

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European here.

all these filthy authoritarian whelps.

syndicalism is best ism

>>677757080
Good question.
The systematic oppression is more concentrated that it has been for other minorities. After slavery was abolished, the black people were not compensated for what had happened to them. Therefore, they had no money to support themselves with. They were forced into very very poor areas with very little access to education and social services. They would work to support their families, but their work, because they were black, was not saw deemed for adequate pay. They worked for much less than whites. This still applies because, the majority of rich or even middle class people in the country are not dirt poor because they have come from a line of rich to middle class people. Most blacks are poor because they have come from a line of poor people. To this day, coming from poverty that they have been born into, it is very difficult to overcome it. As a poor white person like myself it's hard; but they are still not paid to an equal amount to white people, nor do they usually grow up in decent areas where they could have a decent education. Without money in your family, it's very difficult to pay for college or start a company. They just usually do not have the same priveleges when it comes to economic class, education, etc. a life of poverty very easily turns into a life of crime to survive.