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>>677549532
nah, just decency.

are you saying that the only thing that keeps you from murdering and stealing is the threat of divine retribution?

>>677550629
You haven't said anything because now you have to define decency

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>>677550936
legitimate retardation

Theist: Morality has no logical basis for the atheist
Atheist: Morality comes from feelings which come from societal upbringing

Theist: My moral feelings are telling me to be religious
Atheist: Feelings are stupid, be more logical

Learn to SAGE you replies so the fucking thread isn't bumped and kept alive.

>>677549532
i dono ask the KKK or ISIS

sage

>>677549532
obviously - nothing prevents. as nothing prevented crusaders from murdering and stealing.

>>677550629
Yeah

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>>677549532
First. Let me say I hate these threads and you seem to be a reeeeealky pathetic faggot. Not like how we all call each other that all the time, but your a read AIDSbag.

That being said, I have often wondered the main question you posed, as to what makes people who don't believe in reprisal from a god or an afterlife NOT kill/rape/steal. Especially since a lot of people who DO have faith in God DO those things.

The real answer is another question:

Why does anyone do anything. All men have some evil inside them, and I think a lot of it is instinct. The ability to suppress those impulses probably is societal pressure, along with being conflicted about the good that exists in most people.

I think living well, or as well as you would have truly wanted, as you take your last breath, you did it right. God or no god...purpose.

TLDR: why does anything anything

Also fuck OP the never ending story is overrated, you are a shit eater.

>>677549532
Just not wanting to be a filthy nigger and steal? Is that too hard to think of u moron

Not all people require guidance to know the difference between right and wrong. Those who do require guidance usually find solace in a God. Except of course for those priests and Christian school principals that molest children. Or televangelists who basically bilk "followers" out of their life's savings. Relying on an external moral compass doesn't work.

>>677549532
Empathy. I know it's shocking to a religious lunatic, but some of us actually care about other people.

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The OP is an atheist who posts as a Christian. He doesn't abandon the thread. He posts in /b because there is no user ID. He then can answer as a Christian or an atheist. He likes to take the opposite side of the argument to get people all riled up. He admitted it several days ago. He is an east coaster too.

This thread isn't real though. It's full of the OP saying shit on both sides of the issue that is designed to create a response (i.e., BAIT).

If you want to talk about religion, there are other places to go where people actually exchange intelligent thoughts, not here though.

The KKK announces a march in a city. All the anti-KKK people come out and scream during the parade. Usually, it's a dozen or so KKK members and hundreds of protestors.

Want the KKK parades to stop? Ignore them. Let them walk down empty streets. Without all the protestors and cameras following the clash, there would be nothing to validate their message. Without an audience, the marches would stop.

Don't be the audience. Don't give the OP validation by enabling him. Ignore the thread and let it die every time. He'll be bored and go away .

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>>677554099
I fapp'd

Also chek'd

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>>677554334
Well said. I think the dialogue ITT ignored the bait and was mostly based.

>>677549532
The Threat of the Wu-Tang Clan.

>>677549532
Think of it this way: Assuming you're a religious person, the concept of an afterlife where you face consequences for your actions is a deterrent. You may subscribe to a faith where the afterlife is indefinite in time and as a result you would reasonably attempt to do as much as possible to reach the good end rather than spend eternity in the bad end.
For atheists, this life is all you get. You die, and that's that. Logically you would want to maximize the enjoyment of the one (finite) lifespan you get. Seeing as prison is far from enjoyable, the atheist would weigh their actions to avoid prison when at all possible.
Of course, religious or not people can still be assholes.

>>677549532
OP, your mistake is in assuming that morality requires belief in God. It doesn't.

>>677549532
yes

saged

>>677549532
If the only reason you don't murder, rape, and steal constantly is fear of reprisal, either from law enforcement or a giant, invisible, omnipresent monster that is super worried about what you do when you're fucking then you're a sociopath/psychopath, congratulations.

>>677549532
>What keeps an atheist from murdering and stealing all they want?
I fucking hate this argument. It's called being a decent fucking person. Anyone who honestly asks this is basically saying that if they didn't believe they would be punished they would be a terrible fucking person.

I just want to live in a society where people are good to eachother so I am good to people.

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>>677549532
There's already one of these bait-theist threads out right now., fucker,

>>677550936
if someone did it to you would you be like would you be like "woah that was some fuck shit"?

anything else is decent.

>>677549532
What makes christians murder and steal all they want? knowing there is no reprisal so long as they accept jesus christ as their lord and savior? is salvation the only thing that stands between a civilized society and one with no moral compass?