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Why didn't the Eagles just fly the Ring into Mordor?
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Because that makes too much sense.
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>>677536601
This
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>>677536473
They weren't ready for commitment.
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>>677536473
That movie was 17 years ago. The guy who played Froyo is now in his 50s.
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>>677536473
Because their guitarist died...
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>>677536473
not enough stamina, too many of them to carry, would be shot down, etc.
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Economics.

Eagles would have to get paid two days at union scale wages to do that.

Hobbits work for weed.
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Mordor's Flak cannons are too powerfull
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Spiderman thread please
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>>677536473
Take it easy or there's gonna be a heartache tonight, desperado.
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Because Sauron's armies were on watch at the time you dumb shit, the only reason it worked is because the armies of Middle Earth drew Sauron's attention to the Black Gate
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>>677536999
YOOOO
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>>677536473
Because they're not a fucking taxi service you just ask and they fly.
Because the massive fucking eye looking over mordor.
Because fucking nazgul would rip them out the sky.


People that think the Eagles theory has any holding cringe me the fuck out. Casuals
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>>677536473
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>>677536473
By all accounts, that was the original plan.

Gandalf was leading the Fellowship to an optimal launch point for the Eagle plan that wouldn't be so easily detected by Saruman. The only problem was that he didn't count on the Baalrog. The last thing he said before being dragged down was, "fly, you fools!"

Flying was the plan all along. He forgot when he became Gandalf the White.
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>>677537174
What about the eagles in the hobbit movie? Why'd they only carry those dwarfs part way to that mountain?
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Nazgûl on Fellbeasts, a simple troop of orcs with arrows, the Eagles don't actually give a fuck about it etc
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>>677536473
The eagles were a metaphor for the royal british airforce showing up in desperate times to save tolkien and his bros, if the airforce could have won the war by themselves they would have but the grunts had to walk to the war
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>>677537008
this. they got flying creatures of there own
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>>677537535
Because they are actually an intelligent race that doesn't want to get themselves killed by a dragon. Also, the only reason they help them is because at one point, Gandalf saved their lives and they said "ight, well help you out in a pinch if you need it" and yes they can speak.
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>>677538029
Alright. I'll accept that.
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>>677537450
Fly as in run.

Fucking Facebook repost theory

>>677537535
What about them?

Because they were there to assist Gandalf, once the party was safe the Eagles left.

>>677537618
Tolkien has been quoted multiple times that lotr has no direct reference to WW1 or WW2 tho.
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Because there were a bunch of pic related, not to mention the guys riding pic related are almost un-killable and all have rings of power, the eye would kill them, ballistics, literally thouysands of troops and monsters etc. And it was a secret quest. Giant eagles aren't very secretive.
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>>677537618
That is actually pretty bad ass if true. Thanks for a rare interesting post on /b.
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>>677537618
This guy gets it.
Whole damn series is a big fucking metaphor for war and industrialization.
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>>677536473

because their o-line sucks
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>>677538465
See
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>>677537450
Fly means run for one, and he actually knew about the Balrog. He didn't count on going to Moria at all. In fact, theres a lot of stuff Gandalf doesn't say or do because he is restricted to use his full power and wisdom because their god, Eru Lluvatar, only wants the wizards to guide them.
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>>677538684
This
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Why didn't they just make greater and more powerful rings having had the experience and knowlesged gain of the time passed?
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zgr9kqt

Totally had nothing to do with the war
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>>677538993
That's not how it works and in the age they are in magic is actually draining and will become completely extinct (along with the elves). Lord of The Rings is the end of the age of magic and the beginning of the age of man.
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>>677538993
Nothing they made would ever be as good as something made in the first age. It's why all the good loot is ancient.
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Because if the only thing that matters is getting the ring to mordor, then who needs the hobbits?
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>>677536473
Because the one who could master them (Gandalf) fell into that abyss
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>>677539229
Stop perpetuating debunked theories you double nigger
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>>677539519
Actually, it was Radaghast who sent the eagles to Gandalf, that moth he whispered to flew to Radaghast and he summoned them.
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>>677536473
Because Hubbard was a bad writer. It's a massive plot hole in a very boring story.
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>>677539806
So why that fucking lazy pothead did not take Gandalf's place?
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There would be no sequels and more shekels to be made
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>>677539680
>be this guy
>didnt read the big fucking part when it says tolkien denies everything
Are you fucking retarded or just a dumb lysdexic cunt
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>>677540027
Because he was one with nature and loved weed too much. Gandalf is the only one who stayed true to his divine quest sent out to him by their god Eru Lluvatar.
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the idea was to keep the ring a secret

flying the ring would draw attention, the Nazgul would have killed the entire fellowship while riding fell-beast. Game over after half a movie.
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>>677536473
They mostly did in the battle of the black gate, would never have made it if the witch King was still alive, the movie made them look invincible.
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>>677540091
Sadly Tolkein was dead long before his books were ever even that popular. His son did it all.
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>>677540091
U srs?
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>>677540180
I thought you were saying it was about the war as you didn't quote anyone, or am I misreading that I am confused
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>>677536473
>Not knowing anything about the largest most consistent fantasy world ever devised by one man for just shits and giggles
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>>677536473
Orcs probably would've shot the eagles down, and that's too much of a risk because if they got the ring the world would go to hell. The eagles can't fly sneakily, they're brightly colored birds in the middle of a dark lava land.
That being said I can hardly remember the movies.
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>>677536473
Eagles would have been corrupted by the precious because they are weak-willed.
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In LOTR lore, the eagles live around the Misty Mountains, and the theory goes that Gandalf plans to rendezvous with them after crossing the mountain range. The problem is that the only sane way through the mountains is the Mines of Moria, where the Fellowship encounters the demon dominatrix Balrog who ends up taking out Gandalf. And since no one in the group knows about his secret plan, when they get out of the mines they all head to see Galadriel while the eagles probably kept waiting around for Gandalf and checking their watches.

Now, here's the best part: right as Gandalf's about to be dragged into the abyss by the Balrog, he yells, "Fly, you fools!" which everyone interprets to mean "RUN!" instead of, "Literally, fly the rest of the way! It will be much easier!"

So why doesn't Gandalf try this plan again after coming back to life? Well, first, he is suffering from such a bad case of amnesia that Aragorn has to remind him of his own name. Second, no one knows where Frodo and the ring are at that point, as both are MIA since the end of the first movie.

OK, but why doesn't he tell the fellowship about his plan from the start? Because he doesn't want to risk the plan getting out and later finding a whole flying platoon of Nazgul assholes parked behind the nearest cloud the second they reach Mordor. And that precaution is justified -- the whole operation is one big information leak from the beginning. Between getting spotted by Saruman's bird spies, being stalked by Gollum, Pippin letting Sauron himself spy on him through the crystal ball, and Aragorn letting Wormtongue go report back to the bad guys, the fellowship all but takes out a full-page ad in the Middle Earth Times letting everyone know their progress.

Hell, that's probably why he has to keep his last words cryptic instead of screaming, "Go to where the eagles live!" If he had, the orcs nearby could have heard him, and if they hadn't, you could count on Frodo to say,
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>>677541245
The rock and pool
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>>677541466
"WHAT'S THAT, GANDALF? YOU WANT US TO GO TO THE EAGLES AND HAVE THEM FLY US TO MORDOR? OK!"
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>>677540938
That crazy britbong invented entire languages with full vocabulary and grammar for the hell of it. All of the quotes in the books and in the movies are actually written in elvish, dwarvish, black speech, etc.

Somewhere I read that he did it all because he thought that british folklore sucked rocks and wanted something that people would actually like.
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>>677541682
Kek
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>>677541466
Why didn't they fly on the balrog?
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>>677541887
Because his ruin smoted on the mountainside
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>>677537450
Facebook pleb
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>>677540396
This. Did you plebs read the books?
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>>677541245
>Eagles would have been corrupted by the precious because they are weak-willed.
Jesus /b/, 54 posts before anybody got it right.

Next: If Obi-Wan and Yoda wanted to keep Luke's existence a secret, why the FUCK did they have him raised, by family, on Anikin's homeworld, UNDER THE NAME SKYWALKER?????

What retarded shit is this?
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>>677542967
Don't ever fucking reply to me again
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>>677543150
U wot m8
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>>677543150
>Don't ever fucking reply to me again
Ok, I will NEVER reply to you again.
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>>677536473
>MFW im listening to summoning whilst lurking in this thread
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>>677542967
how does darth maul lose to obi? and why is grievious so shit at fighting?
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>>677541805
Naw dude European mythology is the best, he just put a very innovative twist to it.
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>>677542048
lel
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>>677541466
This is so far from being right that it is actually wrong.
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>>677540027
cuz he's not as powerful?
white wizard>gray wizard>brown wizard
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Im just gonna dump my pics of LOTR/ The Silmirillion
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>>677542967
because if anakin went to his home world thoughts of his family would come back and he would feel the presence of his mother etc. etc. that's why dearth Vader wasn't on tattoine at all.
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>>677539378
Is that a scientific fact? It's fucking magic you douche bag of course they could just make a new oNE or a better one or an old one, I think the real question is, is why didn't the eagles just eat the hobbits, problem solved.
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>>677546669
>is that scientific fact?
>starts talking about magic
is that a scientific fact?
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>>677547042
>starts talking about magic
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>>677543958
i actually liked using grievous on battlefront 2 he was a savage
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>>677546669
Actually what I said is a fucking fact if you knew anything about the story.
>>677539492
This is also related to what I meant. In the end of all the middle-earth tales, Saurons old master, Morgoth comes back from the void and starts the battle of all battles, Dagor Dagorath. He destroys the moon and the sun. After this idiculous battle, the Elves go extinct (or already have maybe) and all races evolve into men and it becomes present day. You know why the elves are so sad and gay all the time? The elven rings given to them were supposed to keep magic in their lands from dwindling, that's why all their elven kingdoms are so beautiful compared to everything else. But now that the one ring has been destroyed, the magic will fail, and the elves will one day go extinct. Thats why ionh the movies they say the age of the elves is over like 100 times. In the Hobbit, before they get to Rivendell, Bilbo even says "it feels really different here, almost like... magic" Then Gandalf goes on to tell him it is a very powerful magic.
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>>677546669
Also the eagles are a sentient intelligent race capable of speech. Possibly even related to the Maia, lowish tier angels.
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>>677537141
This
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>>677547806
(The silmarils/two trees of Valinor might even have had a role in this but Tolkein did not finish his work)
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>>677547983
No, the eagles were just shit tier birds
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>>677540022
Made me chiggle in my chuckies
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Eagles are OP, but one does not simply fly into mordor ;)
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>>677548955
Maybe, it's never proven that they are Maia.
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>>677536473
One word....nazguls....they had shadow dragons. FUCKING SHADOW DRAGONS. And with the ring being a beacon to them, all they have to do is knock from off the eagle and he's dead. Sitting duck in the air man
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>>677540549
Not true. The books were immensely popular in the 60's.
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ALL OF YOU RETARDS LISTEN UP:

The reason they didn't do this was because Gandalf knew they were devious creatures who were easily corrupted and felt that the power of the ring would drive them to insanity.
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>>677549285
You are probably right. He at least died before he knew a movie would even be considered.
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>>677549339
Sauce
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>>677548955
Why would you read a book based on magicsl affairs only to later conotate in matters of science anyways
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>>677549339
That's pretty fuckin thin
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>>677548955
Id love to hear you say that to ones face before it ripped your head off.
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>>677542048
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When the volcano is erupting when they are climbing it why didn't frodo just dip the ring in some of that lava, instead of going all the way in. Lava is lava no? I'd assume you just need to burn it in the same lava is was created in.
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gandalf's butterfly catching skills really sucked back in those days
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>>677549734
>Moth
Maybe even a luna moth, so pretty.
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becuase it was too hot in the begining (weather wise)
i fucked an elf girl who told me
she'd come over sometimes while her boyfriend was away after school.

once the door would close she'd almost instantly get naked. most times she'd put on her favorite song and start sucking. then she would cry. her tears and makeup would drip down her face onto my dick. its surprising how cold tears are. eventually i finally asked her what was wrong. in between licks she told me that her favorite song was also her bfs favorite song. so even though she loved hearing it and it totally got her pussy wet, it also made her think about the fact that she was cheating on her boyfriend. i dont think i ever came harder down somebodies throat then right after she told me that. she was beautiful. we dont hang out anymore. wanna get lunch?


this was the song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSPe8dIJEtw
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>>677549702
Right, because those giant Eagles are so real. Fucking autist
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>>677537008
>>677537141
these, i fucking hate when this question is asked. Im pretty sure they explain in the book that they would have been killed
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>>677550031
Its simple reasoning that should lead people to believe they'd fucking die.
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>>677549452
Actually the Beatles were trying to fund a LOTR movie long before his death. All the parts were there, except the magnitude of logistics to make such an undertaking. Love or hate Jackson's production of LOTR it's still fucking impressive
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>>677549977
This could definitely hurt you very badly Mr. keyboard warrior.
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>>677550357
They waited just long enough to bring his visions to life, had all the right technologies to do it. The first scene in the first movie had the most people on screen ever at one time.
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>>677550647
Go jerk off to Star Trek, autist
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>>677536961
fuckin retard hes 35
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>>677551087
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>>677549916
WHYYYYYYYY

She'd be hot with a quick shave/unibrow wax
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>>677550647
Um, thats not the eagles from the story

Only a retard worries about how tough imaginary animals would be. Are you scared of werewolves too?
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>>677551926
That's a Harpy eagle never said it was an eagle from the movie.
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>>677536473
Because fuck your copypasta
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>>677536473
On a dark desert highway
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>>677552219
Cool wind in my hair
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They had non-refundable reservations at the Hotel California.
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>>677552153
Of all the dumb ass arguments I've seen over the years in LOTR breads, this is the canceriest
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>>677552288
Warm smell of colitas, rising up through the air.
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>>677552391
Up ahead in the distance I saw a shimmering light.
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>>677552153
Do you have some sort of whistle, or can you zone in on their brainwaves to make them do your bidding? Otherwise its just a shit tier bird, that eats rodents, flies around, and occasionally fucks other eagles
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>>677552513
My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim.
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>>677552625
I had to stop for the night.
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>>677552696
There she stood in the doorway.
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>>677552773
I heard the mission bell.
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>>677552773
hush ya gums
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>>677537077
This guy knows
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>>677552842
And I was thinking to myself this could be heaven or this could be he'll.
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>>677552876
>>677552842
damn suk ya mum anyways faglord
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>>677552922
Then she lit up a candle and she showed me the way.
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You can't fuck with the servants of Morgoth.
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>>677553014
There were voices down the corridor.
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>>677553143
I thought I heard them say...
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>>677553143
I thought I heard them say
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>>677553204
Welcome to the hotel California.
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>>677553204
>>677553221
Welcome to the Hotel California
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>>677553276
>>677553288
Such a lovely place
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>>677553357
Such a lovely face.
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>>677553276
>>677553288
We are legion. We are autism.
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Desperado, you been out too long
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It's hard to say because the author is dead. The best theories I've seen are that the plan was to use the Eagles but saruman forced the fellowship underground to Moria where Gandalf fell with the balrog. After that everything went to shit since a) wizards are secretive assholes and he told no one his plan, and b) no one else in the party had a relationship with the Eagles. Another theory is that the Eagles, unlike Hobbits, are much more susceptible to the Rings corruption so if the were to carry the ring they might drop the fellowship to their deaths then have a nice snack to go with the Ring.
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>>677553878
Sooo. Glenn Frey failed
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>>677552153
I will file this under "who gives a fuck"
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>>677554475
Or under "shit tier birds, and the autists who care about them"
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fuck eagles, what about a catapult?
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They could of used a fucking beetle or something tiny and used a spell to get it there. Hell a crow could of ate the ring than been steered into the lava.
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>>677536473
Gandalfs Original plan was to fly. But he fell into the pit with that fire dog thing. if u watch that scene, he says, "Fly you fools".
Crazy shit yo
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>>677549707
>Muh volcano
>Muh magma
>Muh lost shekels for such a dissapointing, not epic ending
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>>677536473
they couldn't enter mordor until after sauron(the ring) had been defeated, he would've killed them with with magics n shit
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>>677556683
MODS
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>>677552369
Kek
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>>677550031
No, that was in the Hobbit you dumbfuck. Thorin asks them to fly him and co. to the mountain but they say that they would all get shot down. Maybe that was in LOT also, idk. I never could get past the first one. Great story, but I get lost when reading a paragraph describing which way the stream is flowing and how the tree-leaves are blowing.
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>>677557837
Meant to say LOTR. Goddamn autocorrect
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>>677557486
FAG
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Be honest. Tolkien is a good writer?
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>>677538029
No. It had nothing to do with Smaug. He was fucking asleep. You think he would've known if the Eagles were flying there? The only reason he woke in the first place was because Bilbo was a piss-poor burglar who moved the coins around too much. Refer to
>>677557837
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The eagles arent allowed to interfere too much, they only come in when they are really needed
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