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Why don't people like this guy (without saying Socialist, Too Old, or Bush Did 11/9) ?
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>>677497980
Man. I am a Bernie supporter. Along with everyone who isn't in the USA, too bad we can't vote, but that is all they have. People like trump because he just goes off and does whatever he wants and they want that. Clinton supporters likes her because she is a female.
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Well he is a jew
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>>677498593
Replace the two guys with 12 year old kids asking to get paid 3$ an hour
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>>677497980

I don't support him because he can't even support/defend himself. I liked him, but then he got cucked and I nope.jpg

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>>677499001
That's a really stupid reason to dislike a candidate
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>>677497980
Birds of feather flock together.

The haters are attracted to Trump
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>>677499290

One less vote for him either way.
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Bush did 911
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>>677499882
I will never understand people who vote based on emotion and not on policy
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I like him more as a person more than hillary or Trump however I feel he's too far left for what America needs.

College shouldn't be free. Graduates already have a hard enough time finding a related job so having more graduates clearly wouldn't help. I think it should cost less, but certainly not free.

He wants to tax people and corporations way too much on top of significantly increasing minimum wage. If I'm a business that's when I start to mechanize, lean manufacturing, or outsource.

Regarding taxes. I think the American people should decide where they put their money. Socialism might in homogeneous societies where everyone for the most part agrees on the same things. America is too much of a melting pot with very diverse opinions. Let the individual decide. Keep taxes as they are.

Free healthcare? No. Loosen regulations to force insurance companies to compete more lowering prices. Let market forces drive change
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>>677497980
He couldn't even beat Hillary. That joke pretty much tells itself.
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>>677500222

>Your rights end where my feelings begin! D:
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>>677501017
Is corporate wealth now personal wealth? Are Bernie supporters retarded? What were the billionaires getting for free?
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>>677497980
He'll destroy our great nation.
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>>677497980
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc2TVLoxsDA

father of birds, bringer of peace
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>>677499290
You want a candidate to stand up to bully world leaders like Putin. How can Bernie do that? If some nigresses can just push him off stage, how can the cuck stand up to Putin?
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>>677501604
Corporate welfare is the same as human welfare. Look up how much we spend on welfare for people vs welfare for corporations. None of its required to be repaid, it's welfare.
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>>677500222
>says the person voting for a socialist with an $18 TRILLION plan to bankrupt the nation
>just wants free shit anyways
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Anti-nuclear power and anti-GM, meaning he is a scientifically illiterate moron.
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>>677501604
what is tax avoidance for 100 alex
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>>677497980
He has a habit of promising stuff he has no chance of delivering.
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>>677497980

i don't even dislike this guy. it's the fucking social justice warriors that piss me off.

american "liberalism" has gone down the same path the social justice warriors have gone down... so it's no longer possible for me to side with these guys.

by the way, being a social justice warrior does not make one "liberal". social justice warriors, with their desire to police nudity in the media and censor words that come out of people's mouths, are actually the opposite of liberalism. american "liberalism" is retarded and is not true liberalism.
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>>677502057
>bankrupt
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>>677502057
>$18 TRILLION plan to bankrupt the nation
According to right wing hack analysis, yes. Read this:
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2015/09/no-bernie-sanders-domestic-policy-plan-doesnt-really-cost-18-trillion
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>>677502407
Have some reality
http://moneymorning.com/2016/02/10/how-the-bernie-sanders-healthcare-plan-would-bankrupt-america/
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>>677502508
>meanwhile in reality
http://www.wsj.com/articles/price-tag-of-bernie-sanders-proposals-18-trillion-1442271511
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>>677497980
zionist
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>>677502379
SJWs tend to be liberal but most liberals would disagree with things SJWs believe in, the parts about censoring speech and policing media are not liberal ideas
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>amerifags thinking tax payer-funded healthcare and education bankrupts a country.
>amerifags completely incapable of looking outside of their own borders and noticing that almost every single fucking 1st world country provides tax payer funded healthcare and education for its citizens.
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>>677500222
Last time I voted for someones policies we ran up our national debt another trillion dollars and watched every branch of government gridlock themselves. No thank you. I want a leader in office.
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>>677501017
>On record Voting yes for:
>Oil wars
>Wall street bailouts
>Corporate welfare

but he's really going to stop all that once he's president
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>>677497980
joo, you forgot joo.
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>(without saying Socialist
This is literally the reason most Americans dislike him
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>>677497980
socialist
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>>677497980

>11/9
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>>677502828

Bro, we still believe the metric system is a tool for world domination.
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kasich for pres faggots
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>>677502655
>posting the same shitty statistic with the same flaws mentioned in the article
Again, read what I posted. I'll quote the relevant parts for you since reading seems to be tough for you

"It depends on how you look at it. First, there's a set of proposals that the Journal estimates would cost about $3.4 trillion. That's not pocket change, but it's about as much as Jeb Bush's tax cut.

Then there's the $15 trillion price tag for universal health care. Is this a fair estimate? It's probably in the ballpark. Private health insurance accounted for about $1 trillion in spending last year, and assuming reasonable growth that will probably come to around $15 trillion over the course of a decade.

But here's the thing: this is money we already spend. Right now, employers and workers pay insurance companies $1 trillion for health care. Under Bernie's plan, we'd instead pay that money to the federal government. Generally speaking, this would be invisible to most of us. Behind the scenes, our dollars would flow to a different place, and that's about it.

So the Sanders plan wouldn't actually take money out of our pockets.

Bottom line: You should think of the Sanders plan as costing about $3.4 trillion. You may or may not like the idea of universal health care, but it wouldn't have much impact on how much money you actually take home each week."
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>>677501892
It wasn't his event though, it was an event he was
invited to speak at.
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>>677502874
He didn't vote for any of those things you fucking moron
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>>677503073
What kind of idiot thinks the government would manage anything better than the market? It will increase costs, increase inefficiencies, decrease quality of care, etc,
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2016/01/18/bernie-sanders-incredible-28-trillion-plan-to-replace-obamacare-with-single-payer-health-care/
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>>677503074
So what? He's a weakling who lets even lowly nigresses step all over him. How is he supposed to stand up to other world leaders when NO ONE respects him? He'll break into tears the first negotiation with another nation.
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>>677497980
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>>677502532
>http://moneymorning.com/2016/02/10/how-the-bernie-sanders-healthcare-plan-would-bankrupt-america/
That's some retarded source you posted there, son. They literally say at the bottom that Bernie has a plan for all of it, but then say:
"But several experts have stepped forward over the past few weeks – most of whom are liberal or progressive thinkers – to say that the Bernie Sanders healthcare plan makes too many unlikely assumptions.'
They don't quote a single person saying that, or even make an argument for it. They have no argument because they are wrong
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>>677499841
>haters
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Are you fucking faggots actually in favor of bernie? you people are actually retarded
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>>677503446
The current system is fucking awful since we get price gouged by insurance providers, that's why we pay the most of all major countries for health care with worse outcomes. Why would that be the case if the free market is always the best?
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>>677501723
>calling mussolini a socialist
Wow that a now level of dumbassery
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>>677502758
Bernie was the only candidate that didn't go suck dicks at AIPAC
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>>677500451
i think this is the great lie americans tell themselves.. if you think Bernie is too far left you clearly do not see how far right the country has gone.
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>>677503822
If someone is gonna quote him they should at least post the entire quote. Jfc
He was wrong to say white people don't know what it's like to be poor.
But he's right about everything else. Institutional Racism exists. Police brutality against black people exists and it needs to stop.
He misspoke. Big fucking deal.
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>>677501723
After 40 years of a policy born with Roosevelt that made the US the most successful economy in the world, wealth redistribution slowed down drastically in the US when Reagan came to power and slowed further down since then.
Income inequalities went off the roof, the US are now ranked #27 for their quality of life and human development index, and have the highest poverty rate of the OECD countries.

Meanwhile, "socialist" Europe has become the world first economic power, with minimal inequalities and poverty rates, ranked best for their education and healthcare systems, and the highest quality of life.

tl;dr You're a retard and don't know what you're talking about.
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>>677502828

Funding gaps in health care are anywhere from 5 billion dollars (UK) to as high as 500 billion (Canada) and in order to make the difference they'll have to either drastically increase taxes, cut specialist services, or both.
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>>677504830
Not mention that he apologized and said that he didn't mean it that way
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>>677503035
Hivemind/10
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>>677504282
You do know that the government is interfering in the market right now, right? Medicare, regulations, laws... It's not a truly free market.
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>>677505020
>implying a measure made up by leftists is at all unbiased
Do you have any real data on how "awful" the US is? Anything unbiased? Or just MUH FEELZ?
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>>677498593

This sure sounds fancy.
But how many years do you want to spend on your knees to these company smiling cunts, before you make a wage you can live off?
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>>677503612
>someone makes good point
>"so what, here, let me say the same fucking thing again

Is it difficult being that retarded?
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>>677504830
I used to be a Bernie supporter until he let slip how much he hates his fellow white people. I'm white, I'm poor; but according to that asshole I don't REALLY know what it's like to be poor. You know what? Fuck him. I'm voting Trump now, just to spite the cunt.
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>>677505824
It doesn't matter that it wasn't his speaking event, he still let himself be bullied in front of the public. No world leader will respect him now. He's shown himself to be very weak.
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>>677505492
Exactly. We should abolish the income tax and just use excise taxes on food, gas, and utilities to fund the government and make the poor finally pay their share. Imagine the extra money for the job creators
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>>677497980
cause his support comes from over coddled pussies because he promises to coddle them even more.
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>>677505831
He clearly misspoke, he grew up as a poor white kid for fucks sake. Also, he apologized and said he didn't mean it that way, so if you are letting that decide your vote you are retarded
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>>677497980
>without saying socialist
But that's a perfectly valid reason, are you some kind of retard who things economic policy is just a meme?
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>>677506022
This guy gets it! Always glad to see a fellow rational human being on /b/.
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>>677505668
All this comes from the IMF, the OECD, the UN, the World Bank, the Fed.
Feel free to whine about those "leftist" biased sources, meanwhile people are laughing at your deluded retardation and enjoying better lifes.
It's not like they care much.
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>>677502057
How about we pay for it with congress's yearly pay raise.
Or the thousand a year those folks spend on haircuts and new clothes, vacations, etc.. with tax money.

Fuck you for letting them have that money for their devices and not our fucked education system.

Trump running for president is the first indication that our education is pitiful.
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>>677505817
Then get an actual career faggot.
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>>677506187

>Also, he apologized and said he didn't mean it that way, so if you are letting that decide your vote you are retarded
He got caught in his little Freudian slip and lied about not meaning it. Too late, we know what he truly thinks now.
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>>677506187
>he grew up as a poor white kid for fucks sake
Isn't he Jewish?
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>>677506022
That's absurdly retarded, poor people make basically no money compared to the rich, so expecting them to pay an equal amount is impossible
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Zero intellectual fairmindedness, humility, and ultimately, integrity. His consistency means nothing when it's things he's wrong about, such as high school level economics.

In this way, he is no different than any other politician... and therefore is just as dangerous. His supporters don't know the difference between thinking with their head or heart, because their heart tells them they're using their head.

Racist, bigots, what have you on the Trump side... I still hadn't seen so much cognitive bias in my life until I met Bernie Sanders supporters, many of which are now ex-friends, because who needs fucking retards for friends?
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Because Reddit always makes bad choices.
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>>677499001
Trump gets shut down by hundreds of BLMers, does that make him a bigger cuck?
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>>677506386
You actually think he thinks white people can't be poor? If you are this retarded, just go ahead and vote Trump
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>>677506265
Leftist/statist organizations, ESPECIALLY the UN.
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>>677506306
Sure.
But I am gonna need a part time job to pay for college, right?
There goes a few years.
Also need a car to get there and back.
Another few years at min wage.
Just first.

Also someone was saying how hard it was for college grads to find work already.

So either I muscle them out, or work for less.

Now I'm taking a career for min wage to challenge the college crowd.

What is a career?
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>>677505978
Aaaaand you're clearly a broken record. Who's the candidate you feel to be a leader?
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>>677506420
Jews are white now, anon
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>>677506267
I agree partially, anyone who works for the government should do it for free. It's a duty, not a well paying job. That'll make sure only people who truly want to serve the people will work at the government.
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>>677506420
jews are white but supposedly not caucasian; so yeah,Bernie is a self-hating white.
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>>677506454
I have $10, you have $5. We go out for a coffee, costs $5 per coffee. I have one, you have one. According to you, I should pay for both of us because I have more. This is fair how?
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>>677506725
That's if I don't have any medical issue in the meantime.

Which if I don't have career, I haven't afforded, so as a low income earner, I don't deserve the same care.

So.. stay sick, bail on the college, and keep the min wage job working for the smiling company cunt.

...how exactly do careers work?
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>>677506803
That'll make sure that no one works for the government. You really think you trash man will do his job because of a sense of duty?
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>>677506535
Quite the opposite, it took thousands to shut down his rally, not two baboons
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>>677501892
I disagree. I think we need a candidate that commands the respect of other world leaders, not necessarily the fear of them. This is how you can make deals and compromises. How can Bernie command the respect of people like Putin when he can't even command the respect of two teenagers or himself?
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>>677497980
because his tax plan, economy strategy and immigration plan all will have negative effects on people and the nation. his tax plan(assuming he can implement it) will raise taxes on everyone, contrary to popular belief of only the rich, and while its thought you will benefit from "free" college and healthcare which will outweigh costs it in fact wont and people will be worse off than in the current fucked up system. he would reduce debt by tons which is a good thing but the negative affects caused by it outweigh that positive.
his economy plan would hurt people with min wage increase because businesses wont simply pay the increased wage and that be the end of it. they will fire people and make remaining work more to compensate, increase prices on goods/services to make up money, across the board businesses will see others demanding raises since if min wage is 15/hr and i worked my way to 20 for old 7.5/hr i should be paid more to reflect experience. this will go all the way up to higher paying jobs resulting in inflation and essentially us being where we are now. so min wage goes up but so do prices resulting in same way of life now becasue it was forced. he would also hurt the economy with his plan to increase corporate taxes and bill wall street driving business away
his immigration plan is a joke and will further promote the idea that citizenship is unnecessary

i dont dislike him as a person but as a politician he sucks
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>>677506582
Even the far left site politifact agrees with me:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/07/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-wrong-say-when-youre-white-you-dont/
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>>677507040
Taxes =/= commerical products
You can't use the same logic for them
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>>677507162
It was never a rally drumpfcuck
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>>677506588
I'm sure you have solid, unbiased and competent sources covering and processing massive amounts of data as efficiently and with as much detail as those organisms.
Please point them out to me, I'm waiting in expectation for more signs of your naive delusion and biased hypocrisy.
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>>677506535
>Mob of unruly violent nigger Bernie supporters
>Two niggresses. accepts it. bows head. cries.
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>>677506733
Trump, without a doubt! Pure alpha male, he'll inspire respect and fear in our enemies.
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>>677506785
I meant that Jews are never poor. You ever met a poor Jew?
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>>677507040
that's a good way to simplify Bernie's economics philosophy.
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>>677507289
Of course they do, because Bernie didn't mean it that way, as he said when later apologized for the remark
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>>677504819
Id agree but the amount of faggotry and pro black shit being forced down my throat is proof youre wrong
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>>677497980
His tax proposals are idiotic. The U.S. economy is not at equilibrium, yet he wants to raise taxes enormously. One college level macroecon class will tell you that's retarded during a recession or depression cycle.

He wants corporate "reform," including raising the 35% corp tax rate and ending subsidies. We have the highest corporate tax rate in the world and you want to raise it? Why the fuck do you think businesses are leaving?

His ideas are either ambitious to the point of being unrealistic, or they are ill-conceived and will topple our economy.
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This
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>>677507100
Perfect! Then the market can handle things. I fail to see a problem? If you have such a hard on for "serving your fellow man" through government service, why don't you want to do it for free? Or is it that you just want handouts?
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>>677507451
Only one I know of is Bernie Sanders, but I don't know that many Jews
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>>677507393
That's all I needed. Thanks, nigger.
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>>677506187
His parents paid for his college.

He has no idea what its like being poor.
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>>677507251
>This is how you can make deals and compromises
My god, you really are a leftist, aren't you? POWER is the only language on the international stage, not kindness. Why do you think the US is still the dominant power? We have the largest military!
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>>677507615
>implying employees pay the payroll tax
Nice bullshit Vox hit piece. This is actually what you will pay under Sanders tax plan, ignoring increased taxes if universal health care gets passed
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>>677505831
I'm sorry you feel that. I'm sorry you think voting a billionaire into office would be a better choice than someone who has spent his entire political career fighting for EVERYONE.
Sorry you think voting someone who thinks the current minimum wage right now is too high.
I don't know what to tell you.
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>>677507040
No. High earners stick with their clique anyway.

But that cup of coffee is 2% of most low income earners entire two week paycheck at min wage.

So if they buy 3 or 4 coffees, they miss rent.

You still wanna bitch about it? Don't buy their coffee, and enjoy your ivory tower.
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>>677507648
source?
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>>677507617
You may be the dumbest nigger to ever post on b
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>>677507306
The only difference is that taxes are extorted through threat of force, not willingly given.
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He's a social progressive, which is diametrically opposed to my unwavering beliefs in classical liberalism and individualism.
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>>677507468
I know, it's so simple. "You have more than me, GIVE ME YOUR SHIT!"
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>>677507825
When we have folks who can afford a house on their credit card, compared to folks who grow up not being able to afford a business tax...

...perhaps the rich folks to could propose something other than, "Fuck those who aren't as lucky as my family, and get out of my way you serf filth worker bees."
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>>677507474
What did he mean then? All I get from it is "white people are evil, we need to give our money to the blacks"
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>>677507809
Lol, that propaganda has been busted multiple times over. You are drunk on Kool Aid, bud.
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>>677499841
idiots love Bernie. what's your point?
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>>677507617
>implying paying for a service through government is a handout
I want government to serve some basic functions, not for government to do nothing
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>>677507812
/thread
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>>677507632
kek, he's a failure even as a jew
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I don't know, I really like him
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>>677507640
I thought you lefties loved niggers? Why are you using it as an insult?
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>>677505199

500 billion dollars?

the canadian healthcare budget isn't even that big.
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Hmm... Gee i wonder why no one with sense likes him.....:.
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