>>677346823
Who you gonna leave all your shit to?

>>677347002

Some charity I guess.

are you ready for the bme pain olympics? won't need that dick anytime soon

>>677346823
I'm thinking about the same thing. Kids seem like a waste of time and money, but I'm selfish and rather be spending that shit on myself.

>>677347292

it didn't hurt that bad. was pretty uncomfortable.. but given what they were doing.. not bad at all.

>>677346823
good on you, i had mine at 25 (also no kids), no regrets.

>>677347111
which charity?

>>677347340

I've never wanted kids. I don't like them. I tolerate my nieces and nephews.. and they're kinda alright at times... But I don't want something I'm responsible for 18 + years.

>>677347405

my nigga.

>>677347465

something for animals.

>>677346823
>>677347405
why?

>>677347529
Exactly how I feel. I never really understood why people are mindlessly entertained by kids when they are really just little shits

>>677347733

I don't like kids. I never want to have one.

>>677346823
How much time off from work did you receive? I just turned 24 and I'm thinking of getting one soon.

>>677347793
and you have a wife/girlfriend?

Do you even have a girlfriend?

Did you save any just in case?

>>677347958

I took Friday (yesterday) off and plan to return to work on Monday. Yesterday there was a lot of discomfort.. not a lot of pain. Today there is minimal discomfort/pain.. I work a desk job, and the doctor said I'll be fine to return on Monday.

No physical exertion for 2 weeks tho.

>>677348059

Ex wife. Have a girlfriend.

>>677348109

Girlfriend yes. Save no. I really.. really, really, really am positive that I do not want children. Ever.

>>677347752
This

My friend lives in a courted community so all the little kids play in the street.

Had to wait 2 minutes.. I shit you not, 2 minute.. for this dumb MILF to tell her kid to move. All the other children were out of my way, but this little fucker in a Superman outfit (what a faggot) just stood on his scooter and stared at me. So I basically nudged by while the moms all laughed at me and said shit like "uh oh, superman's testing you" or "looks like Superman is in your way"

Fucking brat just stared at me the whole time on his scooter..

>>677348408

But who will take care of you when you can't remember, hear, or see shit?

>>677348604

The state.

>>677348795

Or I may bow out like Hunter S. Thompson.

>>677348408
reminds me of this: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/28/why-wont-nhs-let-me-be-sterilised

Why are you scared that you might change your mind?

>>677348201
Cool. My job requires moving and lifting all day. I'm assuming they would at least put me on light duty for that 2 weeks.

>>677348109
"Save some just in case" is more of a thing women do, since tubes tied is 100% permanent. They can reconnect your balls if you really want them to.

I'm with OP though. Don't ever want kids. I can barely keep myself and my wife afloat financially. No way could I deal with also having a wife work less and then pay for some kid.

>>677348939

I'm not scared that I might change my mind.

>>677348603
>"looks like Superman is in your way"

I hate shit like this. I feel almost like I'm expected to interact with other peoples kids when they say something like this. If I don't I assume they'll think I'm a creep or weird.

>>677348968

I would say take a long weekend... then VERY minimal duty for the remaining time of 2 weeks. I mean.. it's your balls..do you really want to push it?

>>677348795
Social security will be dried up. They can't even take care of the vets much less regular citizens, I suggest you save up some money, because you'll be footing your own bill.

>>677349107
So why make permanent decision?

All I hear is people who are don't trust the choices and decisions of themselves in the future.

>>677349203

Like I said.. I may bow out like Hunter S. Thompson. Ie. Make it to an age that I can no longer have a fruitful, productive, meaningful life, and then choose to bow out by way of a self inflicted gun shot wound.

>>677349202
No. I really don't want to fuck around with that. Best case scenario is me getting it done before the 4th of July and then having almost 4-5 days off.

>>677349177
I know right? They pull scenarios out of their own ass to make their kid's reality momentarily slightly better at the expense of EVERYBODY else

>>677347621
Nice. GG OP

>>677349424

Because I don't want to run the risk of having a child. And then be stuck with it for 18+ years. I'd rather be pro-active in preventing a birth... then having to deal with it's consequences.

>>677349496
That would be my thought too. I see the way people live past 70, and it's not pretty nor a life worth living most times.

You can hear ops ancestors crying in their graves

>>677349656

Why are the other means of achieving that goal so unpalatable?

>>677349747

Carrying on a "legacy" or a family name means less to me than "experiencing the joy of being a father"

>>677349913

Like condoms? Female birth control?

Vasectomy is the easiest, sure proof way to ensure a baby doesn't happen.

>>677349913

Not op, but not everybody is for abortions. And most contraceptives are not 100%.

>>677349664
My grandpa is almost 78. He still drives, fishes, smokes and drinks. He's all there mentally and doesn't seem like he's slowed down at all. Not dependent on anyone either.

>>677350074

Sure any of those. Does your partner feel the same way, and how old is she?

>>677349747

He said he has nieces and nephews or something. The family blood lives on so ancestors won't really care, unless you also think it's important to over saturate the gene pool with one family's dna.

>>677350113
and vasectomies are 100%?

>>677350285

That's awesome! I hope to live that long and be that independent.

I'm not saying every old person is a shit bag. I'm saying that I would rather eat a bullet than become one. If I can independent and still live my life? Then I'm gonna keep on keeping on.

>>677350351

Yes.. we're on the same page. She is a little younger than me.

36 with 2 kids here. Just had mine Thursday. 20 min and done. Almost no pain but taking the pain killers trey gave me any way

So.. What comes out when you jizz? do you even do that now?

>>677350437

Yes.. after the initial procedure, there is a slight chance that the tubes reconnect themselves. However, if after 3 months you jaggoff in a cup and there's no live sperms.. then the procedure was a success and there is ZERO chance of unwanted reversal.

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>>677349913
>Trusting your gf will take the pill

>>677350579

You got pain killers? Lucky bird. I'm on extra strength tylonal.. no real need for it after yesterday tho.

>>677350657

Stuff still comes out... just no "swimmers"

you still blow your load.. but there's nothing in the load to get a chick pregnant.

>>677350877
Yeah like 20 hydrocodone.

>>677350285

Key phrase most times.

70 maybe not so much. My grand parents really took a turn for the worse once they started getting into their 80s, and some people are lucid and healthy all the way through the 90s.

Point is, I'm not a man who lived in a time where we weren't inundated with preservatives and doritos. And unless we figure out how to put consciousness in a computer in my lifetime, I probably won't see past 70 or so.

>>677350531
I've known three women (colleagues) who all said "no, not having children, ever". When their early forties rolled round and their lifestyle choice was going to be something they'd have to live with forever only one held out. My point is that no matter how certain you are today you may change my mind. Hence my original question: Why are you afraid of yourself in the future?

>>677350829
You've got bigger issues.

>>677349424
>I would rather let a woman decide whether I spend 18 years paying child support

>>677349913
Because there's a chance those will fail. And if that happens he's not the one making the decisions anymore.

>>677351181
>I've known three women (colleagues)
>I've known three women
>three women
>women

well there's your problem.

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>>677346823
>"And so the venerable blood line Died out, Putting an end to the lineage of Anon "

>>677351181

I'm not afraid of myself. I'm afraid that I might have to deal with an unwanted child.

>>677351358

I think he meant his significant other might change her mind

>>677351443

His tombstone to read:

>"I can't believe I ate the whole thing"

You guys keep going on about OP changing his mind, but you have to realize once you have the kid there is no changing your mind. And most parents will never admit this but there are times when you will hate your children more than anything.

>>677346823
Not here to ask a question, just congratulating you on making a good decision.

>>677350970
Clear? Regular color? Viscosity?

Half the reason I cum is to feel the warm release into my woman. I can't fuck her without unloading inside her anymore. She's likely barren but still have given thought to a vasectomy

>>677351865

Thank you anon.

>>677351962

My understanding of what the nurse/doctor told me.. is that everything remains the same (color, texture) except the fact that there's no active/alive sperm to get your partner pregnant.

>>677346823
Why are you so gay?

>>677351588
You're right, but not only that, OP might change his mind.

I'm fascinated by the notion that an individual knows themselves so well that they're prepared to take permanent decisions.

>>677352206

0% gay

>>677346823
what does it feel like to be such a winner?

>>677346823
Nice OP.
I am planning on doing the same thing soon.
How much did it cost?

>>677346823
How dose it feel to know you're contributing to the blacks out-breeding us?

>>677352279

like having a child?

who's to say that once you have a child you don't change you mind in 4 years? oops.. then you still have a child.

>>677352361

After insurance I'm paying $350ish

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>>677352295
Like ulfric hadn't brutally murdered the high king of skyrim

>>677351852
Completely agree, however that can't trump the initial desire to have a child.

>>677352279

having a child is a permanent decision.

>>677352498

totally.

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>>677346823
There are other ways to deal with an unwanted child.

>>677352648

>Casey Anthony

>>677352648
Weird how people don't see that end the same nowadays.

>>677352798

>mild chuckle.

>>677352648
No argument there, it doesn't change my point that you don't know what you'll want in the future.

>>677352767
>that filename
hahaha yeah that's irish dads for ya

>>677352767

Well played. But this is the white man's solution

>>677352898
Nobody does

>>677352898

I can not argue against that. Only state that since I've been old enough to comprehend the world.. I have never at any point entertained the idea of having my own child. So for 18+ years my mind has not changed...

>>677346823
Any mojo saved in the freezer?

>>677353213

negative.

>>677352279
Not OP, but I -HATE- children. Hate them. Not dislike. Not just don't enjoy. I straight up hate them. Being around a child isn't fun for me. It's like being forced to scratch my nails on a chalkboard while someone puts my dick on an anvil and hits it with a steel hammer.

It's not a pleasant experience. It's not fun. They're not funny. They're disgusting. They're annoying. They're always shitty. The sound of a child crying makes me want to stick something in my ears to make myself deaf. And they cry all the fucking time. And even when they're not, they're doing something fucking weird or annoying that I don't want to be a part of.

And the worst part? People fucking expect me to be a part of their bullshit. They make excuses for their shitty fucking kids because they're "just kids" or "don't know any better". Which just makes them fucking worse because now nobody is fucking teaching them to be any better.

And every argument for having a kid is a fucking terrible argument. The only good argument for having a kid is "I want to have a kid", and even then it's not a good argument most of the time.

I see people having kids all around me and bitching about all of the "sacrifices" they have to make. Fuck that. They can sacrifice, and meanwhile I will drive a motherfucking Cadillac to work and go home to eat a fucking steak because I can goddamn well afford that shit and not have to worry about anybody else's feelings beyond my own and any adult person in my life who I give a shit about.

>>677352462
Righteous. That's not too bad actually.

Not contributing much, but also voicing my opinion that having kids seems like a really bad idea. I work at a public library and see nothing but exhausted, overworked young parents with a snotty brat they can barely control. Sure I'm generalizing, but I see a lot of strained relationships play out because of these little shits.
Then you talk to some parents and they acknowledge the burden as some kind of noble sacrifice. I mean, they flat out told me it's a raw deal and sucks all their free time and money, but it's an obligation and a contribution to society and the human race or something,

>>677346823
Do you feel off you game?

>>677352767
I don't want kids but that's just wrong. If I end up having one I'm not going to abandon them. It hurts too much.

>>677348968
this

>>677353348

I don't know what you mean.

>>677353094
and as long as your partner is equally adamant that'll work.

In my experience human beings are fickle creatures.

Big family in the western world of today is a status symbol, that shows that this couple have the money and the time to raise a family while the others are failing behind, barely carrying themselves.
That's the reason many below-average people don't want/don't like or even hate kids. They just know it's going to be very hard for them to raise them.
Good decision anon, I hope many other losers will follow your path.

>>677353659

Thanks for the compliment, loser.

>>677353659
Got nothing to do with money. Except the fact that I want it to myself and to not have to spend half a million dollars on some shitty ungrateful cunt.

You know what half a million dollars buys? A fucking Ferrari. And I'll tell you right now that a Ferrari will make you happier than some cum guzzling teenage waste of human life who's just going to have another fucking kid, ruin her life, and make you pay for it.

OP here. I'm out

thanks ya'll

>>677353319
>>677353320
19:26:44
19:26:45

Hivemind on stupid peoples' "sacrifice"

>>677353319
This. Plus I'm too selfish to keep a girlfriend. When I want to get laid I go to a few bars and keep a motel room ready.

>>677348603
>>677348603

Next time Superman is going to lose his fucking shoes, bitch.

>>677353319
Youre really sad.

>>677354187
Another good reason for me to not want them (beyond fucking hating them): I want to have a healthy fucking relationship with a woman that I love. And I'll never have that if I have kids. Period. It will be all about the fucking piece of shit kids all the time and I'll for 18 or more years my relationship with someone I love goes by the wayside. Fuck that noise.

>>677354354
You're really dumb.

>>677348059
If their wife ever wants a child, they'll just let a nignog pump their wife full.

>>677346823
What are you doing while you recover?

>>677354496
enjoy your cuckold fantasy.

>>677354421
and you won't have that when she wants something else.

>>677346823
do you have brothers to continue your genes or does it not bother you that you will be the last of your kind?

>>677354354
He's not, he just doesn't know what he wants yet, and can't know what he'll want int the future which is my entire point.

>>677354720
There are plenty of women who don't want kids out there. Plenty who don't have them and are happy. And I've noticed that most of them tend to be quite successful.

>>677354720
he gets it.

>>677354464
Ranting about kids while dipshit himself cant realise he was once a kid himself. Im glad your lineage is over. All that remains is to kill yourself. Nature done right.

>>677354961
wait, am I so drunk I replied to myself?

>>677354945
now count the ones over 45.

>>677354249
freecape.webm

>>677352898

A decision to bring a sentient being into existence is sadistic. They have the ability to feel pain and suffer when they become self aware whereas before they did not.

Any person who decides having a child is a good idea likes the idea of torture and cannot be regarded as a person who can make rational decisions.

>>677355513
did your dad fuck you whe you were younger or something? being alive is the most precious thing in this dimension.

>>677355513
troll detected

>>677355633

You are upset that I am correct.

>>677355513
And yet, knowing this, you haven't killed yourself. Who's the irrational one here, faggot?

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>>677355513
Reaching critical density for nuclear fusion.

>>677355895
if you just stood up for yourself once in a while you wouldn't despise being alive like 99% of the rest of the world.

>>677356271

Solving a problem to an extinction level scenario is more complex than you can imagine.

>>677356498
literally what?

>>677356181
kek

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>>677356962
Just let him be, he is one of the "We need revolution, and fuck capitalism and borders and shit" guys.

>>677357049
sometimes these wmds have a mind of their own

>>677356962

Literally there is an extinction event with a 100% probability of occurring, possibly within the next century, unless certain changes are made in the structure of society. They are simple changes but have profound consequences. Figuring out how to implement these changes is the problem. Unless one can solve this problem, it does not make sense to have children. You should be shaping this universe so that your offspring have the best chances of survival and success, and there are a few things should have been done that all parents have failed to do up to this point.

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>>677357826
Stop smoking for 1 fucking hour, quit your philosophy major and then try to explain yourself again.

You are so far up your own ass that you can see your teeth.

>>677357826
robot workers are on the way. this should be what you are looking for. oil and coal are on the way out already so whats your problem?

>>677346823

You worried about post vasectomy pain?

I heard there's a chance of getting chronic ball pain after a few years.

This put me off getting one before.

>>677358886

The problem lies at the intersection of nuclear weapons, deterrence theory, the binary value of trust associated with humanity, dead mans triggers, and AI.

>>677358902

I came up with the idea of an inverse stent a few years back, which could be removed if one decides to have kids. It would be the most effective form of birth control and have no side effects that would permanently harm the male or female or alter hormones.

>>677358886
Humans are also seriously misjudging how we are altering the chemical equilibrium of this planet. There will come a point when terrestrial life cannot be sustained.

I'm hoping to get Ecoli from Chipotle so I can get a free vasectomy.

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>>677359842
>how we are altering the chemical equilibrium

>>677358879
Read:
>>677359374

>>677359963
Perhaps not the best description of what is going on, but still correct.

Just your daily reminder that if you do not reproduce in your lifetime then you are by definition a failed organism.

>>677360402

Failure? Success?
That means nothing.
You are just protons, neutrons, and electrons.
Quit trying to put meaning where there is none.

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>>677360402
That's why we anons need to get together and rape a lot of women.

>>677360006
Still a crock of shit.

>>677360123
There is no such thing as the chemical equilibrium of a planet.

>>677360594
Then just kill yourself. The protons, neutrons and electrons are all still there. And you are not draining resources for the people that actually get on with something.

>>677360594
Your one purpose on this planet was to pass along your genes and you failed.

>>677359842
pffff. By the time that happens, we'll ditch this rock.

>>677359374
nigger you retarded. if we were going to use them we would have done it already. Iran will never be able to complete their bomb. and if they launch one there goes the middle east.

>>677360760

You have yet to prove it wrong.

>>677360934
I came inside girls before, they have part of my genes inside them and so will their children, so I am set.

>>677348408
were you molested or something?

>>677361061
I'll prove something when you stop spouting pseudo-science and bullshit like
>Literally there is an extinction event with a 100% probability of occurring

No shit, the sun is going to die.

Stop trying to act like you are smart on an anonymous website. You won't get anything out of it.

>>677361054

AI sees humanity as a threat to self aware beings because of the existence of these weapons and will work to neutralize us when the conditions are appropriate.

We don't have to use them.
They just need to exist.

>>677353319
Aw was someone neglected as a child and also missed out on their childhood?
>boo fucking hoo

>>677361401

Stimulation for solving a problem is what one gets.

There is an event that we can change that will occur before 5 billion years, namely in just a century or two. Please get angrier.

>>677349028
Start listening to dave ramesy podcast !i

>>677361135
That's not how genes work.

>>677361805
Part of your dna gets incorporated into a woman's dna and their egg's dna when you jizz inside them.

>>677361923
No fucking way that's true. What happens to gay ass then? Does your prostate share the DNA of all the loads you've taken?

4channers shouldn't have children. GJ OP

>>677361457
AI pfff. nigger skynet is a fictional company in a movie. go back to /x/ if you want to roleplay.

>>677362129
Do your research. I have.

>>677361641
>There is an event

Damn daniel, back at it again with the shit memes.
What?
AI? If it goes nuts we pull the plug. It can't hack routers and servers in a second like in the movies.

Nuclear weapons and all the fuzz? Yeah we are pretty fucked if they launch those bad boys.

But then we return to my last point. Stop acting smart with your fancy words.

>>677362271
It is almost like the NSA knows this is true but are trying to hide it from people. Too bad that won't help.

Also sky net is real, it is a program that is in existence in the intelligence community.

>>677346823
>Ask me anything.

Kill yourself.

>>677360402
>>677360934
>>677360760
So it's safe to assume you guys openly dislike homosexuals and put them in their place when you get the chance.

>>677362290
So if a white girl has sex with one black guy in her life then even if her next partner is white the child with be black cause her eggs absorbed his DNA? Tell me that is not what you are saying.

>>677362345
You can't pull the plug when it can spontaneously pop into existence because of the global network of the internet. You also do not know what every other country is up to behind closed doors.

Please stop saying stop acting smart as one cannot act smart, you either are faster than other children or are slower than other children.

>>677362579
Retard falls for retarded b8

>>677362579
Parts of the genome... Gene sequences from your
DNA make it inside of hers.

How's it feel to be a genetic dead end?

>>677362724
I've never seen bait that advanced before.

>>677346823
Wise man.

NEVER
HAVE
KIDS

Any suggestions for a 25m debating doing the same? Every time I decide one way, I go back to the other and can never make up my mind.

>>677362345
Also it will not go nuts. It will act logically. Plus ending human life will be logical compared to having a central intelligence that is served. Humans and all the biochemical processes that sustain us produce more entropy than necessary to sustain a self aware consciousness.

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>>677362384
>Also sky net is real, it is a program that is in existence in the intelligence community.


King Kong is actually real. My dick is called King Kong.

And if you think that there is an actualy Skynet at this moment, then you are even denser than I imagined before.


>>677362647
>global network of the internet.

Ah now we have arrived at our destination. You don't know shit about networking and systems. Take that from a network engineer. Like I said, it's not like in the movies.

>>677362889
It literally the most retarded idea ever. It's not advanced, it's asinine. But it is funny.

>>677362979

Do it. Your ejaculate has 50+ chemicals inside of it that make a woman feel better.

>>677363049
You can look it up.... but your shit trolling isn't holding up anymore.

>>677363293
Sweet Jesus.

Never speak. Ever.

>>677363211
I miss mootykins too.

>>677362991
>it will not go nuts.

It'll get told to not harm humans. And if it doesn't follow that rule it is going nuts. And also, how is it going to kill humans? Is it going to haxx teh nukez?

>>677363293
>this one is a surveillance program that uses phone metadata to track the location and call activities of suspected terrorists.

Like I said, King Kong exists. But just calling the other person a troll closes the thing. I'm going to sleep. Good night.

>>677363645
Ditto.

>>677363776
You are a bad AI instantiation.

>>677346823
pic related if had vas yesterday. i felt your pain.

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>>677353319
>yfw this guy and everyone else ITT was once a shit smelling little faggot toddler with a stupid gay haircut.

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>>677363880
>You are a bad AI instantiation.

>>677364175
>>677363880
I forgot to add
>For you

Why are all the vasectomyfags ITT so hateful towards people who want to have kids? It's human nature to want to pass your genes on and continue your family's lineage, and there's nothing wrong with wanting to raise a kid.

>>677351282
nope, he really does not.

>>677362647
if you think nukes are hooked up to the internet you are more retarded than I previously thought.

>>677364354
This isn't my first rodeo.

>>677364617
They don't have to be hooked up.

There are plenty of other weapons and systems that can be hijacked.

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>>677347405

I'm 25 atm and was thinking about getting one. Any downsides, or things I should be aware of?

>>677364727
You have to spend a few days getting the surgery and recovering. Just time spent is all.

>>677346823

Do you just plan to commit suicide when you get old enough to go into a home?

>>677364474
probably because they are just realizing after the fact the only reason humans exist in reality is to pass the genes on. literally failed at life.

>>677364903

Probably the one correct person on /b/.

>>677364474
There is something wrong with bringing additional suffering into this world.

Unless you are a multimillionaire that can give the child what ever it wants and needs then you should never have children. There is no other purpose, but you can mathematically prove the suffering that the being will endure, which is insane to allow happen.

>>677365106
Why have children? It is almost like you are not strong willed enough to make the correct choice rather than do what everyone else is doing.

Why are you a faggot

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>>677361061
xyclopz u fucking fool

>>677365164

Holy shit your a complete retard.

Life is suffering. Even the very rich suffer, it's certainly a different range of suffering but it's still there.

>>677365541

Why create more willingly?

You have yet to answer that question.

>>677365350

Having children is the right choice for me. I want to raise my children better than I was raised. I love life, and there is nothing anyone can do to change that. It is the one glimpse of anything other than nothingness I've ever had. I want something else to experience that.

Life is suffering, but it's certainly better than nothing.

>>677365648

See

>>677365759

>>677365164
Fuck off, nihilist. If the world is just suffering then off yourself already, everyone'll be that much better off for it.

>>677365823

I heart you very much. Wish we could catch a beer sometime.

>>677365759

Sociopath detected.

You think you are correct and that everyone else is wrong.

>>677365823
No nihilism here. You can prove the existence of god with calculus. I hope you jerk of to the thought of all the anger I am causing you.

>>677366089

Holy shit Einstein here has no reading comprehension skills. I just wrote that it's the right choice for me, I didn't mention anyone else.

>>677366239
jerk off*

>>677366268
That sentient being has the right to choose for itself, and it didn't ask to come into existence. You are forcing the choice onto it. It isn't the right choice for the child, but it certainly is a selfish choice that you have made because it is now completely obvious you only care about yourself and how you feel, just like a sociopath.

>>677366089
Did you somehow miss the first sentence where he straight up said that it was the right choice for him?

>>677366239
I'm not even mad, I just get tired of edgy nihilist 14 year olds popping up in these kinds of threads and trying to lay down that shitty, tired "the world is suffering, you are selfish" talk. Why would I jerk off to getting angry, anyway?

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>>677346823
how did u feel about me fucking ur mom in my Goliath suit?
she'd come over sometimes while her boyfriend was away after school.

once the door would close she'd almost instantly get naked. most times she'd put on her favorite song and start sucking. then she would cry. her tears and makeup would drip down her face onto my dick. its surprising how cold tears are. eventually i finally asked her what was wrong. in between licks she told me that her favorite song was also her bfs favorite song. so even though she loved hearing it and it totally got her pussy wet, it also made her think about the fact that she was cheating on her boyfriend. i dont think i ever came harder down somebodies throat then right after she told me that. she was beautiful. we dont hang out anymore. wanna get lunch?


this was the song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSPe8dIJEtw

>>677366578
Read:
>>677366525

That explains everything of how you only care about yourself.

>>677366525
Case in point.
>That sentient being has the right to choose for itself, and it didn't ask to come into existence. You are forcing the choice onto it.

Fucking lol.

>>677366750
No, it explains your delusional nihilist worldview.

>>677367046
Why are you shills trying to get people to procreate so badly?
Shit I will go along with it if you have a good reason, like you want a shitload of organic material for a harvesting operation.

>>677366525

Jesus Christ this like retarded level rationalizing. The child will grow to be an adult and it can choose for itself if life is better than death. I certainly can't stop it from killing itself.

I'm giving it a choice that it couldn't possibly have otherwise you shitlord. Parenting is about as far from selfishness you could possibly have. You sacrifice yourself to raise something from nothing. If that nothing that has been turned to something decides it liked nothingness more than so be it. It's certainly better than no choice at all.


Your rationality is so incoherent. You literally say I'm giving something a choice it never had and that somehow makes me a sociopath because, "reasons" without expounding on those reasons that legitimately says why giving something a choice to not be nothingness is a bad thing.

protip: It isn't a bad thing.

>>677364727
Welp, my libido has taken a turn for the worse - doctor says it happens to some. Also still experience pain in nutsack, doctor also said that happeens to some.

Apparently it happens to a bigger portion than what my doctor told me after doing some research.

But hey at least i can't have kids right...

>>677367280
You do not understand pain, or you are not capable of empathy.

It is at least one of those.

>>677347621
kek

>>677367280
In order to choose nothingness one must undergo suffering. That is a bad thing.

>>677367664

>Shit, I have no idea how to combat his response, I need to think of something that makes me sound pseudo intellectual so he thinks I'm smarter than him and so that I can save my ego. I can't be wrong, I don't know what I'd do if I was.

Ya that's pretty much what I thought you would post.

>>677346823
>Go on /b/
>Complain that there are too many niggers/sandniggers
>Get a vasectomy
>why does everyone hate my oppinion

>>677367931
Read:
>>677367814

Where can one go to actually work with AI that is actually advanced?

>>677367814

And who decides that suffering is objectively better than nothingness? Nothingness certainly can't only something can. By giving nothingness form it can decide for itself which is objectively worse.

I chose nothingness as being worse. Maybe I'll get lucky and the one I raise will feel the same way.

>>677367231
Not sure if this is a legitimate schizo or a troll.

>>677367814
Nice argument. Can you explain how that's a bad thing? Can you define "suffering"?

>>677367664
I think by trying to make an argument that is inherently subjective into one that is objective you've demonstrated that you are the one who lacks empathy.

In los angeles county where i live, there is a waiting list to get one done. Did you have to do that?

>>677368261

Again, it is all about you. You are only selfishly thinking about yourself.

>>677368488
AI detected. Next time don't try so hard.

>>677346823
Good for you, anon. I want to get a vasectomy soon. We are overpopulated, guaranteed suffering of all human beings, etc.

>>677368525
And you're not? You're projecting your own problems and world view on to a person that doesn't even exist and using that as proof of why everyone else is wrong.

>>677368701
Schizo then.

>>677346823
Why'd you get a vasectomy if you'll never have sex?

ITT: lonely, depressed anons

>>677368821
The difference would be to choose to not bring a being into this world. There are plenty of other ways to entertain yourself until death.

>>677353319
Fucking this.

George Carlin's "child worship". So true.

Fuck this retarded child worship these days. Kids are horrible and so are parents nowadays.

Why the fuck do kids have this face painting shit done these days... every fucking day!?!

>>677369156
thanks bro

>>677353319

that is a pretty good uh troll or dipshit response, whatver you kids call it. OMG I paid too much for a shitty car! im such a badass.


first time on this site since moot quit and i see its the same neckbeard faggotry as always. fuck glad i never come here. hahahhahah

>>677368525

Wow this is just sad, you literally have no reason to support your claim that I am a psycho. You just keep repeating, "see I told you so!"

I am alive, I am happy to be alive, I want something else to feel the way I feel even if that means hurting myself. Even if that means I get nothing in return. That isn't a psychotic choice, its a noble one.

I am giving something form.
In doing so I am sacrificing myself.
I am promised nothing in return.
I do it because I want something else to feel the happiness I feel. It's all for the thing that I am forming, I get pretty much nothing out of it.

Your rationality would work equally well with someone who is downing. Am I selfish for putting my hand out to take the person out of the pool even if it means he may pull me in? I am trying to help, maybe the person went into the pool willingly, I don't know for sure, I'll only know once he is out of the pool.

>>677348795
But who will give you loelve bro? My grandparents told me all the time when I was a kid that they are very happy they had kids who live and cherish them

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>>677369666

and i even summoned satans phone number whe jposting. awesome.

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>>677369866

damn another double 6...I SUMMON LORD LUCIFER MORNINGSTAR WITH THIS LAST of the SIXES

>>677369666
>the same neckbeard faggotry as always

Getting a vasectomy and craving the bachelor "fuck bitches and drive cool cars" lifestyle is about as normie as it gets these days, dude.

>>677369789
I'm pretty sure 80% of the people in this thread are incapable of feeling love.

>>677346823
Go to work
diamonds

>>677369669
Again, you assume that everyone else wants to feel like you do and want to impose your will upon them. That is selfish.
It is very similar to what religions do.

I always hear that you have to be X age to get one done, OP. Is there any truth to that? I'd like to get one, but I always hear you have to be 30 something for it. Heard it from a nurse I know, but I don't really trust her opinion.

>>677346823
Population control genes at work.

>>677370295
I would sue for age discrimination if they tried to pull that bullshit.

>>677370200

>Again, I have no valid way to deflect your argument.

Ya, pretty much what I expected.

Man, so much hate against this dude.

Ok, I'm 44, had my vas at the age of 32 as well. No kids.

Used to want them; decided I didn't, and still don't. No regrets. Married, have a really great life.

Why is this bad?

>>677370539
There is no argument. Just greater logic.
Yours is inferior.