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Pascal's Wager states that it's smarter to bet that there is a God because if you are wrong, the consequences are not as dire as having incorrectly bet that there is no God.

Math has conclusively proved that God exists, so why do you foolishly choose disbelief?
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>>676161586
I know it's bait but whatever
Please explain how 'math has conclusively proved God exists'.
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>>676161586
Having "faith" is just too difficult for me. I know Pascal says to fake it until you do, but that does not work for me either and I end up sacrificing what little fun is left in life.
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>>676161586
your bible also says that owning slaves, beating your wife, and fucking children is okay.
balls in your court god-cuck.
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>>676161586
My God is more powerful than the Christian God and will send you to a place worse than Hell if you don't believe in him. Pascal's Wager says you now must believe in my God, whose name is Zarg and he likes to make cookies.
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>>676161586
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I hate you atheists so much!

Stop oppressing Christianity and embrace Jesus, or I will smite you all with fedoras!!!
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>>676162227
You cannot be more powerful than omnipotent. You cannot go to a worse place than christian hell.

Nice try though
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>>676161586
>Math has conclusively proved that God exists
Nope
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>>676161586

Pascal is merely discounting the potential negative consequences of believing in a god that does not exist.
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>>676161586
Math has conclusively proved OP is a fag.
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>>676161586
There's thousands of religions, how do you know which one you should follow?
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>>676161586
400 active religions in the world
which god?
pascals wager states, that most probably u r goin to hell regardless of what u choose, so fuck u, god diproved again
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>/b/tard
>believes in god
kek
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>>676163652
you pick the one with the most to gain if you are right, or the most to lose if you are wrong. Its like placing a bet.
I think you should also use a most likely filter, so you can pick one that is still possible, like christian or islam
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>>676161586
Show me the math that prooves god exists.

>PASCALS WAGER THO

That wager is flawed. What god should I believe in? With whom should I place my bets? There are so many religions, so many ways to be wrong. How do you know your eggs aren't in the wrong basket?
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>>676165771
>How do you know your eggs aren't in the wrong basket

It does not matter. His point is that its better to bet on something than nothing, as nothing has no benefits to winning or losing. Picking a religion offers the possibility of eternal happiness or suffering.
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>>676162394
Try it neckbeard
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>>676161586

And so it was that the Lone Anon ventured forth into /b intent on discovering the fate of two brothers who had once disappeared forever, leaving him an only child.

/b proved a cruel and inhospitable place, and the Lone Anon ultimately surrendered to the vices that had claimed so many others – pedophilia, cruelty, bait. These were the values that guided a lost soul through countless trials and triumphs.

But it was not until the end of this long road that the Lone Anon learned the true meaning of that greatest of virtues – sacrifice. After posting a thread saying that he would kill himself on video if quads were rolled, the child followed the example of the brothers sacrificing life itself for the greater good of /b.

So ends the story of the Lone Anon, who stepped through the great door of /b and into the annals of legend. But the tale of /b will never come to a close, for the only thing left on /b is bait without end, and bait – bait never changes.

P.S. Kill yourself
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Fuck You OP
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>>676165514
most gain if right or popularity is no determinant of tuth. U r going to hell
God disproved again
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>>676166086
What if God gave us our free will to use it, and is very disappointed when we wasted our lives with all the religious BS? So disappointed that he let us burn in hell for it, no matter what religion.
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Troll shit post and the /b/ newfags that fall for it.
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Op is an atheist posing as a Christian.

Are you faggots this gullible?
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>>676167150
again, doesn't matter
even if the odds are one in a billion, its better than nothing

Think about it like this. You bet $5. you can pick red or black. if you bet red and if red wins, you gain 1 million. if black wins you get your money back. If you pick black and red wins, you lose 1 million, if black wins you get your money back.
You'd always pick red, because its the only way to possibly win. the odds of it being true, or of red winning, does not matter.
If religion wins, and you pick religion, you get eternal happiness. If atheism wins, you lose nothing
if you pick atheism and religion wins, you get eternal suffering. if you pick atheism and atheism wins, you get nothing.
easy choice
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>>676167580
Yeah, isn't it great. The same troll OP, the same fags seeming to seriously argue, and the same fags saying Oh Noes This Thread Again. Don't forget to sage.
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>>676161586
>Pascal's Wager states that it's smarter to bet that there is a God
>Pascal's Wager states that it's smarter to bet
>Pascal's Wager states
>Pascal's Wager

>tries to use Pascal's Wager which is solely based on philosophy as a mathematical evidence, just because the guy that made it was mathematician.
i repeat, Pascal's Wager is based only on philosophy.
>tries to involve math by providing false information, saying that math proved the existence of god.
>does not even realize that in order to prove something mathematically you need to have existing evidence.

TL:DR > pascals wager is philosophical dogshit, its impossible to prove existence of god with math but op thinks someone magically managed to do it. OP is a STUPID intellectually disabled faggot
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>>676167830
that was what convinced u - popularity and "most gain". Id gain the most if i believed i was an archmage. Thateres 1 in a billion chance that i am, after all, if magic sky daddy is real, why not magicians?
Think about it like this: u bet your life on what u most likely lose, like jumping off a tall building. U can survive. Theres a possibility. So go do it. Jump off a bridge. Ull be famous, if u win.
Which 400 religions u choose? the 399 that r wrong? How do u know?
U dont. God disproved again.
U pick atheism and u live a good life and contribute to society - live forever in the memories of others.
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>>676161736
/thread
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>>676162445
But Pascal's wager says you'd be stupid not to believe in Zarg bro. Get making cookies.
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>>676162445
This is true but Zarg is the only true Omnipotent being in the universe. The stories of God have been planted there by our equivalent of the Devil to tempt you to sway from Zarg's grace.

Worship Zarg or burn, your choice.
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god love good people, devil love us all
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>>676166086
>as nothing has no benefits to winning or losing. Picking a religion offers the possibility of eternal happiness or suffering
Yeah if the religion is right but if the religion is wrong than you just wasted your entire existence worshiping a nonexistent being and following rules that prevented you from achieving as much happiness as is possible.
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>>676168607
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>>676169625
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>>676168607
To prove something in math you are required to make fundamental assumptions about logic. These are called axioms. They aren't exactly "evidence" and you can prove something in math accidentally so long as you state your axioms, make no further assumptions, and the logical steps are solid.

That said, Pascals wager has nothing to do with it.
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>>676161586
Here's Anon's Wager

You can either believe that when you die nothing will happen and no deity exists, or a giant malevolent neckbearded faggot is the one true God and when you die you live in him and are forced to watch furry porn for the rest of eternity.

Oh yea that's right, the likelihood of the latter is fucking slim to none, and is just as likely as an actual God. Pascal's Wager is bullshit because it is built on the false premise that the existence of a God is just as likely as lack of one, when there is infinitely more proof that God does not exist than the proof for one existing.
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>>676161586
gr8 b8 m8 dont be ir8 from the h8rz cuz i r8 8\8
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>>676170484
It does not have to be "just as likely" to be a good bet.
Learn what positive EV is
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>>676167830
Yeah but the world is more complex than this. The real analogy would be like if you enter a giant hall of many rows of roulette wheels. Now you walk up to the first one and someone tell you what you were saying about betting on it. Sounds good but you walk over to another table and they say the same thing and use it to say you should be gambling at the first table. EVERY table is like this.

You get fed up and go to the bar and spend $5 on drinks. You are guaranteed to get the drink you ordered.
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>>676161586
"The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."
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>>676161586
Pascal was just a mortal dude.
I was raised Catholic, sunday school, church, recieved communion.
the whole nine yards with being catholic and coming from a heavily religious background.
Eventually my brain led me to atheism or agnosticism.
It wasn't a choice. It's just where my logic took me.
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>>676170677
yes, but we are talking about one of two choices, religion or atheist. There are many religions to chose from but that has nothing to do with the wager
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God killed more than 2.3 million people, devil only killed 10
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>>676170935
>two choices, religion or atheist.
So you will "win" Pascal's Wager if you follow any religion? I do not think Priests, Imams, and Rabbis will agree with you.
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>>676170484
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>>676171409
Thats what Pascal says, yes. You have to bet with your life, its better to pick religion than to not pick it, because there is more to gain.
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>>676167830
>if you pick atheism and atheism wins, you get nothing.
'but if you pick atheism then you don't have to make a fucking bet and ayou can spend youre time doing something productive with your life.
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>>676170112
no, i got u, cuz u gave up
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>>676167580
>>676168158

Atheists being trolled by another atheist.
You just can't help them. They are that stupid.
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>>676171582
Nah, I don't dispute religion, it was just merely my observation from the point of view I grew up.
Once you reach a conclusion you don't necessarily think about religion.
You just live your life day to day.
Nice try though /b/ro
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>>676171890
Great, because I am a devout pastafarian which means I can choose to follow any religious principles under the teachings of FSM. Basically I live however and I want and according to you I get to go to Heaven with you! Yay! Hope you have fun paying your church to let you sit in silence while they bark propaganda to you.
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>>676172110
What Christian are you debating in here? And why are you here? The meme fits.
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>>676166086
Better bend over and accepting everything everyone tells you. Ps I'm a God also whorship me too and suck my cock faggot
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>>676161736
If you know it's bait, why on Earth take it seriously?
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>>676172462
Just trying to entertain OP /b/uddy
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>>676161586
Christian god & a God that only lets atheists into heaven
have exactly equal chance of existing.
Only one of those options wastes your time and life with prayer, etc.
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>>676171971
atheists r winning anyways
stay mad, intellectually impotent believer
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>>676173239
Hey dumbfuck. First, it's easy to win an argument when only one team is playing. Next, I'm "mad", because the autism in threads like this make all atheists look like idiots. Anything else little cunt?
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>>676171971
OP is arguing with himself to keep these threads bumped. Safer bet than Pascal's Wager.
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>>676173813
OP cannot bump own thread. Only responses from other posters that are not saged can do that.
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>>676172344
I'm here cause it's fucking /b/ you retard.
I'm here the same reason you are.
I'm not going into the semantics of random fucking bullshit threads I happen to click on.
The meme fits as much as the magnum condom I use to fuck your mom.
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>>676173239
Winning is an understatement. With religion in phat decline we can finally get to raping and stealing like the moral religous faggies expected us to do
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>>676174121
op is mad hax0r and faggot.
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>>676173735
intellectual challenge is autism. Thats why u never left the basement, huh? Bad hustle, neckbeard retarded niggot jew whore cunt-ass cumguzzler
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>>676174349
So, religion INTERESTS you.

Hypocrite liar.
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>>676175355
Obviously from that reply, you lost this argument.
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You know what is actually smart? Just accepting that you actually don't know shit, you can't prove that there is a God, you can't prove that there isn't. Just enjoy life and worry about that when you are dying
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>>676175419
Holy shit man, can't tell if you're a troll or not.
Yeah you could say it "interests" me. Just like you and everyone else that's aware of modern society.
Jesus you're only proving my point by being a fucking retard.
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>>676175611
obviously from yours u dmg control and project
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>>676171582
>>676176385
You criticized my meme as being invalid.
>"Once you reach a conclusion you don't necessarily think about religion."
Me:And why are you here? The meme fits.
>(lots of rage which is telling) then..."I'm not going into the semantics of random fucking bullshit threads I happen to click on.
(you just click on random threads you have no interest in and you comment in random threads you have no interest in.) Fucking LIE.
NOW you say >Yeah you could say it "interests" me.
So, as I said, the meme fits.
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>>676176947
What damage? I don't have any. I certainly don't "project" anything. It seems you heard those words in debates before but don't know how to apply them.

What was your quote again?
>intellectual challenge is autism.
Yes, never be intellectual on any issue. Never challenge an idea in an intellectual way.

So, why are you challenging me if you believe that faggot?
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>>676176374
Dunno who's trying to prove there isn't one. Us arguing secular folk understand the difference between 'not true' and 'false.' Shoulda stopped with just telling religious folk to think smart. Nice sentiment tho
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