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I need to talk about this movie, this was pretty fucking bad.

Spoiler talk
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Nobody cares about this you nerd fag
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"YOUR mother's name was Martha? MY mother's name was Martha! What an incredible coincidence! I've had you pegged all wrong, we should be best friends."
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>>676090294
man that sucks
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>>676090858
Not only that, but the way they pushed the name of Martha Wayne, seriously, we never actually see Thomas Wayne's tombstone
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>>676090176
When little Bruce began his painfully slow ascension from the well with the flurry of bats around him I knew the movie was gonna be shit. Although I will say the action was great. I couldn't help but giggle every time superman would sack doomsday. Slightly upset that he didn't punch him into the Sun like in the comics. But ehh. Its whatever.
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>>676090176
I knew two overpowered whiny orphans fighting would be a bad movie idea
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>>676090294
Nobody cares, also everybody wait for tonight battle between chispajuan and tadinga and ours
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>>676090858
Gay
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>>676091049
By this point, everyone on earth has seen the Waynes get murdered about twenty times over. Newborns know it happens. Everything related to tht could be cut from this movie, you could still have the Martha revelation at the end, and no one would be confused.
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>>676091163
Tadinga?? U mean taringa? Are they still around?
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Superman in this movie is awful. He's like anon in /b/ only with superhero steroids. What a fucking loser and pussy. They fucking ruined him FUCK DC FUCK WB FUCK!!!
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And the movie kills Jimmy Olsen. Trash.
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>>676090176
Would you say it's worth watching ?
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>>676091890
I mean I guess. It's 151min long with 51 min of action.
>sure
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>>676091890
No. Don't give anymore Shekels to the WB Jews.
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Everything in this movie could've been resolved if people would've taken a minute to talk to each other.
especially Superman who just needed to explain himself to the world and Batman.
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>>676092214
You seem fun.
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>>676090176
you forgot the word ass at the end of you sentence faggot OP.
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>>676090176
It was excellent.

>>676090294
Box office disagrees

>>676090858
Small things can give some perspective. If this wasn't /b/ I'd ask if you you were familiar with the term "reducto absurdum" but, probably not.

>>676091096
Give something five seconds. It was a dream sequence you cunt.

>>676091539
Nice contribution

>>676091629
Times change. There's so much more in the comics than can fit into a movie franchise. You have to pick what gets in and out. That's why the three robins weren't in the christopher nolan movies. Lex wasn't friends with young clark, mr. freeze, solomon grundy, and poison ivy don't exist, penguin is in the past, and doomsday was done wrong entirely. Get over it. If we included the whole DC omniverse there'd be a hundred movies. Some shit has to get cut.
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>>676092376
lol I noticed this
"I never said I was god. That was all you guys."

Problem solved.
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>>676092376
Explain what? "Hey guys I have the power to enslave and kill the entire human race; you can do shit to prevent it. But oh, you know, I'm cool, I'm a nice guy."

That's stupid.
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Guys that watch guys in tights.

/thread
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>>676091096
That sequence was a dream, as I am sure you understood. What's wrong with a dream?
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>>676092892
You have shitty taste in movies.
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so if you guys hated this movie so bad..

did you like the last avengers????
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>>676093048

exactly
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>>676092892
>implying the box office counts how many people walk out of the movie
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>>676092892
>it was excellent

No, it was shit.
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LET ME GUESS YOU FUCKING LOSERS LIKED THE AVENGERS RIGHT????
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>>676090858
I think it was more like Bruce realized what he had become and that killing Clark like he was going to would only disgrace the memory of his parents. That and it established a connection between the two. Though I did get annoyed when Bruce calls Clark a friend a little later in the movie. Like, ya'll niggas only stopped fighting to the death because of a single coincidence.
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>>676090858
Batman just realized that superman had people that he loves
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>>676093886
>I'm a comic book purist
>Other people are losers
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>>676091539
I thought his characterisation is okay. They went for an even more innocent take than usual in Mos and this one, and the moral dilemma he undergoes when he's faced with upholding his self identity or saving the people he loves, I thought, made for an entertaining watch.
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>>676093910
More than a coincidence, it's the first time Bruce understands Superman is also a person, a.k.a, had parents, a childhood, etc. He is not only a God-like figure, but he can also be humane. That was the point.
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>>676090176
Sure, say what you want to say and ask what you want to ask.
I'd give it a 3/10, myself.
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>>676091890
I think it is. My two non-DC fan friends thought it was too fast paced, but I enjoyed it as a decently read fan of DC.
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>>676090176
Can't believe they killed Superman
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>>676091539
Superman's always been a one dimensional character. There's only so much you can do.
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>>676090176
>need to talk about this movie, this was pretty fucking bad.
same, friends in the car ride home didn't have shit to say
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>>676093199
>implying watching superhero movies is any more gay than watching sweaty guys grunt and rub up on one another like in most sports
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>>676092892
The plot was complete shit. Everything other than why Bruce Wayne wanted batman killed was shoehorned in.

Lois lane had around five plot points... Why?

Wonder Woman served absolutely no purpose other than to have a female empowerment character and to give a way to push further movies.

Same goes for justice league... Finding out about them by an email between Bruce Wayne and Wonder Woman? Really? And the aquaman sequence made me laugh out loud in the theater.

Lex Luther... Just Fucking No! Jesse Eisenberg is a HORRIBLE actor to begin with, but he played this more like the riddler. Lex Luther was an eccentric billionaire sociopathic genius... They played him as a psychopath. Ridiculous.

No explanation of why Lex Luther wanted to do what he did. No rhyme, no reason, just more shit to fill a shitty movie.

Jeremy Irons as Alfred was the most enjoyable character in the entire movie. And that is very sad.
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>>676090176
supes movies are always bad. there has not been even 1 good movie about supes.
batman at least had his nolan trilogy.
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Lex luthor was kinda too similar to the joker. I mean, the motivations and the makeup are the only thing that difference between both of those characters in their most recent movies and motivations for luthor werent as clear in this one.
In the last scene he appears i kinda forgot for a moment he wasnt the joker
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>>676094362
Ah, you said that in a way that I couldn't. :)
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>>676090176
It was fantastic. Clearly it wasn't going to live up to anyone's expectations. Synder is an excellent director for people like me although I do understand that most people think his work is shit but to me they are wrong and to them I am wrong, that's just the way the world works.
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>>676090176
Still better than avengers
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It was alright, i'd give it a 6.5/10. batman was dope. the lex luthor casting was fucking horrendous and cringeful. kinda lame I had to watch a batman's parents getting murdered flashback for the upteenth time. wonder woman was hella sexy.
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>>676094669
He's alive. During the last couple of seconds before the credits roll, the dirt on his casket begins to float like it does whenever he's about to do a super jump.
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>>676094864
Dude. Fucking this!
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>>676092892
Get off of /b/ Zack Snyder
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>>676094864
If you don't know why Lex wanted to kill Superman, either a) You paid no attention; b) You are stupid. Given the fact that this is /b/, I'd say DING DING DING it's b).
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>>676094922
The original superman movie was ok. I agree with you on batman tho. Dark night trilogy was the best, cant believe DC just threw that all out the window for this shitty movie.
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>>676090858
I think Bats realized that Earth is Superman's home (what with his mom having a human name). He wouldn't want to destroy his home.
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>>676094864
Lois is the key. That wasn't some random shit. That's an old storyline. She's actually a very important character

Wonder woman is part of the justice league. It could have been her or anyone else, but establishing her now served exactly the purpose of having a female element to the story, and it makes sense that bruce is the one keeping tabs on any extraordinary people. He'll keep doing that after the justice league is established too. It only makes sense he finds them first.

You know nothing of pathology, and it's luthOR, and yes there very much was an explanation. Superman's presence made him no longer the most powerful man. He had a raging god complex.
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>>676094946
I completely agree. He should have played a powerhungry, morally corrupt businessman, not a psychotic lunatic that was always on the border of losing his cool.
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So people know about iron man and cap, and Thor and hulk and the others. Ironman 1 was good. Im2 was ok. Im3 was shit. Thor 1 and 2 where shit. Cap1 was shit. Cap2 was good......now I bet you 70% didn't even bother with avengers till civil war in the comics. Those comics where pretty shit and so was ultron. The movies are so re-writen and bullshit. But no one cares. Now that BvS comes out and people are sore for some bullshit,the marvel and Disney fan boys are cringing that this movie,with its faults and it's good shit, is way better than avengers
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>>676095082
No, you're just fucking stupid.
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>>676094864
Shit I forgot about the Aquaman sequence, I had a tiny bit of hope when I saw those glowing eyes, but then he just stared, just to look cool
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>>676095335
Ok, using ONLY the plot points in the movie, explain why he wanted superman to kill batman and what his motivation for turning the world against superman was.

Go ahead... I'll wait.
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>>676095408
Christian Bale refused to play Batman again, so they had to do something.
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>>676095408
the only superman related crap I liked was smallville.
but only the first half, the last half goes nuts.
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>>676095644
Easy. He wants to kill God to become God himself. He even says so himself during the speech at the party: Knowledge without power is paradoxical.
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>>676095665
he knew the movie was going to suck. that´s why he refused.
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>>676095458
>>676095082
>>676092892
Samefag
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>>676095644
see>>676095458

People calling superman God instead of him stuck in his craw. That's how you think when you're a twenty year old billionaire who's never had problems
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>>676095447
What about that? He could've realized that shit with Lois Lane, simple as that, "Oh shit this guy has a girlfriend willing to stand by his side" They could've simply done that shit, I'm kinda amazed they didn't considering how they hammered Lois Lane so much.
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>>676093199
I wear the required uniform.

>Tights.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU2gMby6GJs
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>>676096013
>I'd hammer Lois Lane
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>>676096049
>references
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>>676090176
Batman gives superman epic handjob
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>>676096013
He meets Lois AFTER Superman has told him about Martha. Lois is clearly the second time Batman realises Superman is "somebody."
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>>676090176
I can fit my whole fist in my ass
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>>676090176
this movie was to big for little minds
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>>676090176
Here's my problem.
Why is Batman a gun-toting, unprepared, and clumsy killer?
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>>676096318
But did he know why he was saying Martha? For all we knew Batman thought Supes was trying to scare him off.
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>>676095910
I thought he didn't enjoy it anymore. Like, he wanted to challenge himself with a new role.
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Batfleck who knew he would be good. Alfred was great. A new I want to fuck wonder woman. What's wrong with me...
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>>676096738
Pissed off old man bruce realizing his life's work is tantamount to zero progress and this new guy could have done it all in a second.
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>>676096738
Why Batman as become more ruthless and aggresive is explained by Alfred when the movie is just starting. Go watch again if you didn't understand.
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>>676096738
They made a point out of showing that all of his allies and protégés died trying to go the extra mile to be nonlethal, so he decided to give up on it and use lethal force if necessary.
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>>676090176
After this whole shitstorm blows over BvS will have taken its place as the western Evangelion.

Interpret that however you want.
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>>676097350
I dont get it.
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>>676097466
correct
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>>676094009
I'm sorry, I didn't read the comics and still see well enough that these movies are shit-tier.
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>>676096867
Scare him off by saying "You have to save Martha?" Sounds like a weird way to scare someone off, IMO
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>>676095644
God didn't save him from Daddies fist.
God is bad.
Superman is God.
Superman is bad.
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>>676097081
Thanks for showing the face of fucking Doomsday, jesus christ Doomsday
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>>676095644
He wanted to control the god that is Superman. His speech at his party reveals how he thinks his vast intellect is painfully lonely without proper power to accompany it. Manipulating Superman like he tried to was his way of proving to himself that he could have enough power to rule over gods.
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Decent movie. Cool fight scenes. Weird attachment to Batman's parents (we get it they died). Affleck did play an incredible Batman though.
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>>676090176
The only thing I hated about this movie was Luthor. Poorly cast.
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>>676097849
They really fucked him up. Doomsday looks like a derpy version of Michael Bay's TMNT.
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Jar of piss was best part of movie. The rest was hot fucking garbage.
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>>676097766
Well, I thought so too, but do you remember at the beggining of the fight how Superman asks for Bruces help? Not Batman, but Bruce Wayne himself, a multimillionare who lost his mother and father. Take it by Bruces perspective, he can't trust no one, and I mean NO ONE, so the simple fact that super god knows his secret identity and his past life would scare Bruce prett damn bad.
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>>676098342
He tried to hard to be the Joker and not a ruthless businessman.
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>>676098499
Nice interpretation, yeah.
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OP here, forgot to mention the Knightmare sequence, can anyone try to make any sense of the god damn Knightmare sequence? What the fuck is with the Flash scene? Its a fucking dream, how does Bruce knows all of this shit?
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So how precisely was Lex Luthor gonna stop Doomsday after he would have killed Superman?
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>>676098710
I am guessing you have never read or heard about Injustice, then.
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>>676098855
step 1: kill god
step 2: ??
step 3: Profit
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>>676098710
That's a good point. He sees Flash's face in his dream before he actually finds out what Flash looks like via Lex's videos.
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>>676098855
He brought to life using his own blood! Luthor is a part of him, why wouldn't he able to control it?
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>>676098961
Time travel/alternate universe travel man. Do you even DC?
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>>676097119
Yes, but in the comics, games, animated movies, and standard movies it is plainly stated multiple times that he doesn't kill no matter what, because it's what separates him from the crazies and villains.
>>676097155
I'll watch it again, but that still is out of character.
>>676097244
Even after allies died in the original comics he never became that way. The only person he's had to kill with a gun was Darkseid.

Also, that still doesn't explain why Batman is so clumsy in this and why he uses guns so much. Literally half of his scenes are with a gun (The paradox scene not included). He never even bothers with batrangs other than to mark things.

Clumsy examples, he hits the fire escape when dodging doomsday. He sits in his cockpit and lets doomsday blast him. He watches Superman recover from the Kryptonite gas instead of loading another round.

These are all sloppy mistakes that Batman wouldn't make.
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>>676098868
I have, every does, didn't answer my question, I understand very well of all that, but why the fuck does Flash show up?
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am I the only who thinks that ben affleck is the best batman ever?
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>>676098961
He doesn't see Flash's face. He sees a guy in a mask.
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>>676098523
He came across as an irritating kid with ADHD.
There was no intimidation at all.
Also, not sure if it was intentional or not but all of his clothes were several sizes too large. Like he was trying to be bigger than he was in reality.
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>>676098855
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>>676099007
Dude, Doomsday after hatching literally went after Luthor immediately, if Supes wan't there he would have been a pile of goo.
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why is batman trying to punch superman? is he retarded?
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>>676099068
Its a fucking dream, since when does Flash travel to a dream?
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>>676094922
Dark night trilogy was pretty bad.
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>>676099085
In the comic of "Dark knight returns" in which old man bruce fights superman, he's pissed off at his life work having amounted to nothing, and he kills the joker. The movie took a lot of elements from old stuff
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>>676099068
But he appears in Bruce's dream. I would be fine with it if he appeared in real life, but he appeared in Bruce's subconscious somehow.
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>>676099154
The Flash in his dream has the same facial structure and facial hair as the face reveal.
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>>676099269
Since dreams are also universes
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>>676099068
>>676098961
>>676098710
I thought it was pretty obvious that it was time travel.

It was a dead giveaway when he 'woke up' twice. More will be revealed in the Directors Cut.
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>>676099154
Even if it was another guy, why Lois Lane? Batman never knew of Supes secret identity.
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>>676099198
Then why wasn't Luthor scared? The guy didn't even flinch
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>>676099636
Batman knows exactly who superman is. He's got tabs on all of them before they even become the justice league
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Hey quick question: was there a ten-minute fight towards the end between Superman and Batman in which a major city was reduced to a pile of rubble in order to save that exact same city? You know, Batman throws Superman through a skyscraper (who gets up unhurt) who then smashes Batman through another 15 buildings (who also gets up unhurt) for roughly about ten minutes straight?
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Better than Man of Steel or Worse? You Decide!!!
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>>676099389
...it wasn't a dream...
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>>676099636
Lois Lane is a huge character. Her death is the reason Superman turns sour.
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>>676099741
He knew Clark would feel compelled to protect him. It was another demonstration of Lex's confidence in his own abilities to manipulate the god that is Superman.
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>>676099315
Begins and rises were bad. The dark Knight was good it was a beautiful movie. Batman himself in the movie was the softest part. Solid movie the rest were shit
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>>676099897
That fight was actually rather short and to the point and there was only a little structural damage.
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>>676099828
Everyone But Supes.
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>>676090176
No shit, Christian Bale wasn't in it.
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>>676099741
Unless he had some sort of failsafe that the screenwriters didn't even bother to mention. This movie was a fucking mess.

Also, the senate hearing scene, Superman literally has X-Ray vision and can't even spot the bomb strapped in with the cripple. Awful awful writing.
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>>676099085
Batman has killed in the comics.
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>>676099897
They fight in an abandoned building.
Doomsday threw him through a building. I'm pretty sure he destroyed Stryker Island when he got back from space, and I think a good chunk of the pier they were on was destroyed.
It's nowhere near as much destruction porn as MoS, though.
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>>676095644
He wanted batman dead because batman stole his rock. And whined like a little bitch
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>>676090176
Gonna be honest. I don't find it to be as bad as most are making it out to be. Yeah, it's not great, but at least it had its moments. I do like some of the actors. Jeremy Irons as Alfred was kind of fun. The action scenes were pretty exciting. Other than that, the plot was pretty confusing, things sort of came and went, and Jessie Eisenberg as Lex wasn't all that enticing. His performance really didn't match up with the other character's dialogue.
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>>676100133
see
>>676099958
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>>676100133
"I wasn't looking"
Do you register every detail of everything within your field of vision?
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>>676100133
The entire chair was a bomb. He didn't see it because he wasn't focused on it.

This Superman is weaker than his comic counterpart.
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>>676099090
To warn Bruce that he was write. That Superman is the God no one needs.
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>>676099085
>in the comics, games, animated movies, and standard movies it is plainly stated multiple times that he doesn't kill no matter what
Batman has killed in the comics, games, animated movies and standard movies.
Would you like me to go through some examples?
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>>676100133
Superman clearly states to Lois that he "wasn't looking." He wasn't using his X-Ray vision in the Senate. Is it bad writing if you just don't pay attention?
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>>676100387
In a dream?
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>>676100225
Congratulations
You win, 'context sensitive'.
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>>676100397
Exactly, I thought his philosophy was "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you either."
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>>676100439
>>676100352
that actually makes it worse, it makes him look like a complete moron.
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>>676099147
I've seen a lot of people saying good things about Affleck. At the very least, he has won over people who were initially skeptical about his casting.

The only issues regarding Batman I've heard would be skepticism over the new murderous direction they're taking with the character, and spending too much of his on screen character development on shit that doesn't need to be covered while only alluding to the major fucking shit that went down which made him turn murderous.
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One of the worst Jokers ever.
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>>676100684
Nice way to try and bug out of an argument you just lost, asshole.
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>>676100535
Much of the time, yes. But he's also overtly killed people - though never murdered. Superman has murdered in the films.
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They managed to make Aquaman look like he was about to drown. Like "hold your breath as long as you can and we will film your scene in 120 seconds. Go"
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>>676100521
Well it's true. Why say he didn't like that he didn't kill because he never did in the comics when in reality he did.
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>>676100684
How? Do you see every tiny detail of your surroundings at all times? No you don't, and it would be ridiculous to expect you to be able to. Clark was so focused on defending himself in the public's eyes and upset that people don't like him that he accidentally slipped up. It happens.
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>>676100684
Why? He didn't know about Luthor's intentions at all at that point
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>>676100439
Did he have his glasses on? In some of the Lore, his glasses are actually lead lined so that he can function more normally in disguise.
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>>676100397
He kills Ras' al' Gul' because of a technicality.

You know what I meant though. He doesn't just go out and kill people nonchalant. In this movie killing is like second nature. It's not as bad as in Marvel's movies, but damn.
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>>676101047
So you are saying he is just a man and not very super?
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>>676101018
>They managed to make Aquaman look like he was about to drown.
I noticed this too. So painfully obvious that he was holding his breath.
Like, obviously he needs to hold it, but I've see far, far better acting attempts at this. Watch Splash, for example. Darryl Hannah and Tom Hanks at the end of the movie, both swimming and smiling at each other. Not at all obvious that the actors' lungs were screaming for air.

BvS was shit.
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>>676100487
A dream is considered a multivers but the plot is also written to also suggest that it wasn't a dream sequence.
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>>676101046
Yeah, you're right. Batman just goes around killing people whenever it's easier and more convenientfor him. My bad.
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You faggots just need something to complain about. It was a fine movie. Kill yourselves
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>>676095586
No wonder your parents don't love you.
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>>676101264
Way to be that guy...
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Funny thing how some people can accept a blond dude in a cape swinging a hammer around but not the possibility of time travel or a paralel universe.
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>>676101582
Huh?
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>>676101460
he kills if necessary. If it suits/helps him. When need, he will kill.
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>>676101181
>He kills Ras' al' Gul' because of a technicality.
In which medium are you referring?

In Batman's very first comic appearance, he throws a guy into a vat of acid, stating that "it's a fitting end for his kind." This was the first of many kills.

And even before Nolan's Batman killed Ra's, and Dent, and Talia, and all the guys in the League of Shadows' temple, Burton's Batman killed goons left right and centre, blowing them up, shooting them, throwing them down belltowers.

There's a horrible little mental thing that goes around where someone on social media, or an important figure on twitter says that "Batman doesn't kill" and then it just spreads as if its gospel amongst people who actually haven't read any of the source material. Even in Nolan's films which absolutely preached that Batman has his "one rule", he still takes out Dent and Talia without hesitation.
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>>676101393
I don't even understand what they were trying to do in the dream sequence, could you explain?
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>>676101582O
I don't think anyone's having a hard time accepting it. It's just Ezra Miller looks really bad, and the way he conveyed the message makes no sense
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I'm waiting to see the gay porn version of this movie where they rape each other.

BTW the movie sucked.
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>>676101671
He's saying he finds it strange how people are okay with Thor existing and using magic but not the existence of time travel in movies.
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>>676101582
I thought the golden rule when setting up fiction is that people will generally accept whatever as long as the physical laws of what is and isn't possible in that universe are laid out clearly in the beginning of the story and remain consistent throughout.
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>>676090176
I haven't seen the movie yet. I'll wait until tomorrow.
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>>676101836
I didn't like Erza Miller either, but the scene is trying to tell people that Lois is actually an important character, not just the guy's gf.
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>>676098710
flash, from the future, came back to talk to bruce and gave him nightmares so he could prepare for darkseid. which, will be the justice league movie.
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Whether you liked it or not, I think we can all agree it didn't deserve a 30% on RT?
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>>676101836
It made sense for his timeline. The point of the message was that he has to save Louis Lane at some point because otherwise Superman would go insane.

However, Ezra Miller is not a good actor for flash. I have no idea why they didn't just use the guy from the TV show. I guess we'll have to wait and see, but Zack Snyder is rubbing me the wrong way.
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>>676101723
He stabbed a guy in the heart. I don't care if Bats kills people but, come on... He had 50 cal machine guns on the batmobile.
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>>676102155
And in the beginning of the movie we see a guy who is capable of flying and shooting laser beams out of his eyes. Why is then a dream sequence so problematic?
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>>676101885
Time travel is a shitty plot device. More often than not, it's used in science fiction by lazy writers.

Of course there have been amazing time travel stories, and they're even among the best scifi adventures ever told, but they are the exception.
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>>676101791
Just going to guess they are going the way of injustince. The joker kills Lane and superman is in a rage and rips out his heart before bats can stop him. This cause war to happen. That's why the flash comes back to tell him your right, you are always right about him. Lois is the key.
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>>676090176
What happened with Joker and Robin?
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>>676102255
Her death causes superman to go all military state and police the world. This is what the flash is warning bruce about. She is an important character.
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>>676102297
Since when does Flash have the power to travel in a dream?
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>>676102638
As I've said previously, it was a dream. How..?
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>>676102768
Death in the Family most likely
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>>676090176
superman dies
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>>676102797
It's not a dream you dumbass.
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>>676102950
They didn't scratch that at all?
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>>676098961
I thought it was Azrael
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>>676102768
Depends on how you want to go about it. In this universe, Jared Leto is Jason Todd=Red Hood=Joker. Rod is Tim=dead and its setting up Nightwing= Dick to be the new Batman when Bruce is killed.
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>>676103014
Bruce 'woke up' from that 'vision'. He was asleep when he saw flash. Either confusing on purpose, bad writing or bad editing.
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>>676102797
He uses the time suit to travel.
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>>676102357
I liked it, but I can accept that it is flawed. I hated Doomsday and some overall editing. To me the movie is at least a 7. The amount of hate it is receivin it's ridiculous.

I can accept some people truly didn't like it, which is fine. But hating BvS has just become a new meme, so some people just go around, with no minds of their own, spewing what they have heard from other people.

And others just wanted this movie to fail from the very beginning.
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>>676103014
He woke up after the fucking scene, how is that not a fucking dream?
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>>676103218
Is this proved?
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>>676102768
Since they deliberately avoided talking about it, it's likely related to Shyamalanian twist they have planned for Suicide Squad or a later movie. The primary speculation is Batman has killed the Joker, and the Joker drove Jason Todd insane, transforming him into
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>>676102947
With the time suit. It wasn't a dream but a parallel universe.
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>>676103472
In a dream.
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>>676103456
I appreciate your explanation of popular theories and am grateful that you explained that it was speculation.
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Holy shit can you guys be any more retarded.

IT WAS NOT A DREAM
IT WAS REAL
More scenes will be in the director's cut.

>>676103311
What the fuck are you talking about.
SPEED FORCE

Seriously, you retards are grinding my gears. How can you watch a DCU movie and know nothing about any of the characters then call it bad?
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>>676103408
In the comics yes. so only speculation that the new Batman movie will be Under the Red Hood.
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>>676103456
There's no proof of any of that happening.
Plus, Leto is older than Ben Affleck, so it would make no sense for Bruce's adopted son to be older than him
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>>676092892
box office sales means nothing when the movie is hyped up to shit......faggot
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>>676103782
Considering he was actually wearing a mechanical suit, they aren't doing the speed force like I hoped they were.
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Did anyone else hate that batmans stupid slow suit? If you were going to make it like that, why not imbed the armor with cryptonite? why would you waste is on a couple dust balls?
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>>676103877
By one year. Make up does a hellava job and he looks alot youger than Ben right now anyways.
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>>676103821
In which universe is Jason Joker?
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>>676104051
That suit was most likely akin to Injustice's Regime Flash suit. In the sense that it was built for armor and durability not time travel. See: Batman's alternate outfit and weapons.
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>>676102535
he always has guns on the batmobile

in the 80's batman he set a guy on fire with the flame thrower at the back

also we have to remember that this batman has been through a lot of shit and just doesn't give a fuck anymore
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>>676104424
Origninal batman. Starting at Batman #427
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>>676104504
But isn't that suit slimmer and not mechanical?
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>>676104108
In this universe Kryptonite is not as abundant as in the comics.
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>>676104696
Death in the Family is not when Jason becomes the Joker
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>>676104696
Well I know that Jason becomes the Red Hood but Red Hood doesn't equal Mr. J...
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>>676090176
Ok can some one plz explain who that person in batman dream was telling him about Louis?
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>>676090858
Wait they actually make that connection like out loud?
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Y'all motherfuckers need to see The Big Short and Margin Call
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>>676104849
I wish I had an image or gif of the scene so we could compare it.
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>>676104962
Yep, red hood falls into a a tub of chemicals and becomes shit crazy. Turns into the joker.
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>>676105083
No, they don't. That was shit post.
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>>676095503
You realize the Avengers was around way before Civil War and had an established fanbase, right? You clearly don't know what you're talking about.
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>>676105119
Big short sucked dick.
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>>676105063
Lois dies and superman decides he's the police of the world. Flash is trying to prevent this. People keep getting upset because it's time travel and that doesn't explain how he came to bruce in a dream, but, it was alternate universe travel. the flash can do anything. And dreams are universes.
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>>676105182
Jason doesn't fall into a pit of chemicals when he's Red Hood.
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>>676105182
You're mistaken. There are two Red Hoods. Plus I mean Joker's origin story is sketch. It's whatever story you want to believe.
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>>676105333
"it was alternate universe travel. the flash can do anything. And dreams are universes."

That is the dumbest sounding shit I have ever heard.
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>>676105848
Yeah, but I guess the "omg I just had a dream about Asgard some I'm gonna go to a random pool in some forgotten cave to see what it was about" sounds perfectly normal to you, right?
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>>676103877
Ah, movies, where actors are the exact same age as their characters. Right. Those.
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I thought it was good. The movie could have been longer to correctly introduce us to WW. Ben Affleck had a few pieces of shitty dialogue, which seemed like some exhausted writer started to give up. The movie was way better than that star wars piece of shit. money well spent I say.
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>>676105848
That's because you don't understand any of it. I'm no expert, but the quantum foam connects all universes past present and conceivable. The flash's powers involve light speed vibrations, and essentially if he could control them he could vibrate himself to-and-from any plane of existence. Any time period, any universe. And depending on how you want to conceptualize "universe" you can argue that the frame of the universe is the consciousness observing it, like the gnostics and lots of other ideological schools thought. Meaning basically, that dreams are universes and the flash can travel to them. Also, suck my dick.
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>>676106086
Better than the other shit you were spouting.
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>>676106086
That was dumb. So was the dream crap. get over it.
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>>676106101
It's the age gap that's the issue. I don't think Leto is his boy wonder.
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>>676106298
What was that you said about me, you little shit?

Post the rest of the pasta yourself. I ain't dealing with stupid assholes tonight.
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>>676106613
Never go full retard anon.
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>>676106292
you sure told him with your comic book speculations
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Let me simplify this.

Batman wasn't dreaming.

He 'woke up' twice. Why? Because when Flash went back in time to warn him the universe was altered and corrected itself. It's complicated but Batman's memories from universe 2 or whatever merged with Universe 1.

To see an example of this watch the animated Justice League Flashpoint Paradox. In the movie when flash makes a change in time his consciousness is actually transported to him at whatever point in time he moved or changed and event. In the movie he wakes up in his office after he changed the past, only to find that he fucked up. He still retains his memories though.

This is what happened in BvS.
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>>676105333
So it's following the injustice comic then ?
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>>676107222
I'm sure it's not going to do it exactly, but it'll heavily borrow from it just like BvS did from several other comics/games/movies
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>>676090176
The first half was bad, but the second was really good. It definitely could have been better if they didn't try to play catch up with Marvel.
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>>676107222
No, that guy doesn't know what he was talking about.

If you didn't realize Darkseid's symbol in the ground at the beginning I don't know what else to tell you.
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>>676106292
I think you is right
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>>676107479
>It definitely could have been better if they didn't try to play catch up with Marvel.
This.
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>>676107073
Is this one of the removed scenes we'll see in the dvd version or is this pure speculation? Not trying to be a fucking asshole by the way.
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>>676107516
Ok ty bro I think I heard the guy in the dream say dad you guys think it was Damien?
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>>676107516
But his trips don't lie.
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>>676107684
Most likely, and no its not speculation. It's literally in source material.
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>>676092214
>implying one guy will make a difference on box office
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>>676107762
English
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>>676102357
Rotten Tomatoes is the most shit review website I have ever known.

I have never bothered to use them in my entire life and I'm glad I dont.
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>>676108492
so you never used something but can strongly judge that thing's usage

genius, tell me more
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