cool story bro

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That's great...

Aren't there enough people in your shitty little homestead to tell or are they too busy telling each other to listen to a beta vegan?

kys

>>675963870
>eating flesh since ever
>perfect health
fuck vegans

>>675964043
I wish others to join the vegan master race

>>675963870
People who do not consume animal protein show a pronounced shrinkage in brain mass was they age.

Look it up. You are violating everything our ancestors fought for by climbing to the top of the food chain and are a disgrace of a human.

>>675964122
Well maybe you should do a two-for-one and take a moment from peole's days to talk about Christ, your savior?

>>675963870
ok

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>>675964233
You're dumb

>>675964237
>religion

I grow my own meat.
Still more healthy than vegans

>>675964530
Ah, you're growing the meat-producing tree?

>>675964347
No joke, look that shit up. It's in science journals and shit.

>>675964122
>vegan
>master race
Nah son, you got to choose one.

>>675964572
Yep.
I get 10-20 bacon stripes every day. And I only need to water it

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>>675964591
Son I am science

>>675964668
I choose both

But... meat is dead things. Dead things taste good.

I think I just cut myself on my own edge.

>>675963870
So how many pills you have to pop daily to make up for your shit-tier choice of foods?

>>675964792
>science with memes
Nah nigga, you need peer reviewed published studies, or just go an hero.

>>675963870

>be meat eater
>eat dead animals
>enjoy every bite

doesn't matter if you eat them or not, they will still die to feed others. you aren't helping them.

enjoy your flowers

>>675964878
>pills
I only eat b12 supplements. I eat a 250mg dose about 3-5 times per month.

It's not a pill in the pharmacological way. It's made by growing a culture of b12-producing bacteria in a sterile environment.

If you really want to skip this you can still eat unwashed veggies / fruit and get plenty of b12.

>>675964792
That's shit. You can't tell by the teeth what humans eat.
Animals only have their teeth and paws.
We use our handy to prepare meat, so we don't have to grow tiger teeth.

>>675965039
Say whatever you like but meat is poison and makes you ill. Go read some recent (2016) studies and you'll see what I mean. If you have the courage, that is.

>>675965244
>assumes that studies are necessarily true
You find at least 100 studies that say meat is bad and 100 that says the exact opposite

>>675964792
HahaahahhahahhhaahhahahhahahahhahahhHahahhahahahhHHHAHAHAHHAHAHhHahhahhahahahahhahahhaha

Vegan = failed human

Prove me wrong treehugger

>>675965482
What's the reason you continue eating meat?

>>675965244
>Meat is poison
You just went all the way the retard line. Only poisonous meat is processed meat with all the shit added to them. Same could be said from veggies that are literally soaked in repellants etc.

>>675965619
I'm used to it and I don't see a reason why I should change.
I only eat 2-3 times a week ans I'm fine with it

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>>675963870

>>675965619
To piss of the fucking hippies like you.
My dinner, my choise. You can go gnaw a fucking carrot faggot.

>>675963870
>Be omnivore
>get flora and fauna to eat
>double the choices
Sucks to be you, livestock.

>>675965845
You seem like a very angry person. Why do I make you angry? Are you so insecure you need to explode with rage every time your ways are questioned?

>>675963870
>near

>>675963870
Vegans always have to let you know they are vegan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9OfhcnKMCk

>>675963870
still on /b/ tho
mental health cant be that good

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>>675964792
>Herboviore
>food - herbs

>>675963870
so, with the lack of protein how does your concentration camp physique attract women?

Y'all gettin so posses off, why? Don't you get that he's fucking with you

Auto correct pissed to possess

>>675963870
But can you bench the bar tho?

>>675966184
My ways are by not any means questioned, I question yours. And I hate faggots like you coming here all "Look, i've been eating beans for twentyfour years"
Here, have a medal of faggotry and GTFO.

>>675966523
Not dickhead OP, but you know beans and nuts like peanuts and eggs give protein, right?
I eat meat btw - just saying.

>>675966218
This, this so fucking much.
Get the fuck off my plate and go eat your fucking veggies if you so please.

>>675966184
not the "angry guy" but why do you vegans always have to try and rub people the wrong way? were not your friends and family so why do you care so much? you dont really give a fuck about anyone else your just trying to be condescending and piss people off and thats why the world hates your cause. cause of fucks like you and that "vegan gains" idiot

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>>675966702
You're the one who should gtfo. You stated your opinions and have nothing further to say, plus you're in my thread.

Alternatively, you can stay and amuse me further with your tantrums.

>look mom, someone is telling other that he's vegan
Boo-fucking-hoo. Grow a back.

>>675966821
I find it enjoyable to piss people off. I'm sure you can relate.

>>675963870
>vegan for 10 years
>near perfect mental health
Nope.

If you were able to have an amazing medium rare steak or chic fil a then you would be happy enough to not have to post your diet on /b/ to stop yourself from committing suicide.

>near perfect...
>mental health

If you're vegan, your mental health is absolutely rekt, not 'near perfect'.

Fuck off and die faggot

>>675963870
>was talking to my next door neighbors
>Both vegan
>the woman was so unhealthy her body started eating herself and she couldnt move or exist without extreme malnourishment and pain
>unhealthily skinny
>Some sort of extreme vegan that doesnt even touch gluten or anything
>Husband is alot healthier but its only a Vegetarian
You lot are fucked up in the head or something.

>>675966966
You don't understand, you CANNOT understand. You are being poisoned by the meat industry.

Try a cleanse for once in your life...

>>675966966
Well, let's see
>not depressed
>not psychotic
>intelligent enough to do science
>disciplined enough to exercise and study every day
I'd say I'm doing pretty good. And I attribute at least 30% of these to my veganism.

>>675967103
>Fuck off and die faggot
Your anger only fuels me. Proceed. Tell me more.

>>675967199
This guy. I think the veggie in this thread is OP himself.

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OP here, forgot to post this.
Vegan life is more funny

>>675963870
And you post inedible garbage.

>>675967481
>ghost pepper
>inedible garbage
Pussy

>>675967176
This guys gets it.

>>675963870
is cum vegan?

>>675967718
Technically no, it's an animal product

>>675966708
>eggs
Vegan faggots don't eat eggs.

Vegans are much like these door to door "Would you like to hear about our lord and saviour"-nuisances with the exception that they tell their thing even if you said no.
Meat is love, meat is life.

>>675966855
What? I do have something further to say: Go fuck yourself with a cucumber.

>>675963870
>vegan for 10 years
>near perfect physical health
>near perfect mental health
>crazy exotic dishes to explore
>growing my own food

>decided to become an obnoxious faggot that believes he is better than everybody just because he has protein and iron deficiency. I love to tell everyone that I'm vegan because I feel insecure about myself. I have no friends and I try to make some by forcing them to like the same things I do, at which I fail horribly. My crippling depression is slowly corrupting every moment of my existence, with it coming the realization that I will die alone and unloved.

Go fuck a tree and an hero already please.

>>675965126
Have you ever had your blood tested for b12?because it is unclear whether the majority of b12 from supplements are even biologically active and can be used by us

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/3/576s.full.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10552882

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>>675964792
>food: herbs

I think vegans are clearly mentally ill, just like pedophiles and gays

>>675967969
Turn myself into a girl. Have urge to poop go into the public bathroom. Sit down start to pee, all while getting ready to push. I hear some commotion outside, but think nothing of it due to having to poop real bad. I start to get half of it out when I hear a loud noise of the wall outside caving in. I look up, and see a Ceratosaurus looking over my stall. I freeze not knowing what to do, but knowing I'm fucked. The Ceratosaurus roars, and launches his jaw toward me. I scream, while he crunches down on me holding me right below my tits. He yanks me up swinging me back and forth. All while my I'm still shitting. At this point its landing everywhere, and I start to have diarrhea to. He then throws me to the other side of the room. I'm bleeding profusely at this point, and in alot of pain. I start to crawl toward the door, pants, and panties, still around my ankles. He catches me though, and steps on me as to not allow me to escape. I scream as he starts to eat my pussy and anus, as most predators to as it is the natural soft spot of the body. I then start to fade away as I finally die.

Veganism benefits your health, the planet and the animals there is not a single reason to not go vegan.

>>675967315
>everything wrong iwith people is because of meat
ok sure faggot

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Psst, guys. I think we drove the hippie faggot OP away. Well done. Steak dinner's on me.

>>675968805
/thread

>>675966905
I can't, I hate cunts like you

>>675969044
Lack of vitamin b12, is a good reason to not be vegan

I prefer to not induce irreversible neurologically damage and not mess with the amino acid synthesis in my body

>>675967533
it's inedible if you are not a chilihead

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>>675963870
So i called this guy in

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>>675963870

>>675968805
This so much

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>>675963870
And he said

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>>675963870
So i said

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>>675963870
And here we are

>>675969210
So because a vegan diet may cause a lack B12 gives you justification to destroy the planet, your health and slaughter hundreds of billions of animals?

You realize the animals you eat are fed B12 supplements.
If you care so much about B12 you can take a supplement which is healthier than eating animals.

You have given one weak incorrect reason not go vegan, this is untrue. If this was the case how come so many non vegans have B12 deficiency.
You will probably say the have a shitty diet and if you eat a proper vegan diet you won't have B12 deficiency.

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>>675969502
Yes

>>675969604
good for you then.

I hope you can stop being an ignorant retard one day and actually accept the truth.

>>675969502
>implying all animals have the same enzymes
Kek you don't science much do you. A lot more vegans are lacking b12 than non vegans

Read the papers in these links then tell me again how you are getting enough b12>>675968335

>>675969502
Saving the world here huh? I have a suggestion too. Lets bomb all the faggots, niggers, vegans and other pesky creatures and the world is saved and everyone is happy!

>>675969502
Nobody wants to be vegan because when you're dead you're going to be eaten by non-vegans

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>>675963870
OPs mom

>>675969502
Tell me exactly how eating meat destroys your health?

Pro tip I'm a biochemist so I only accept biochemistry answers

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funny thing, the reason I eat meat is mostly out of spite and a desire for cruelty and torture. I hunt animals for food and sport, and I enjoy their pain and the sadistic feeling.

I eat a lot of meat and I dont plan on stopping anytime soon unless a leaked video from a slaughterhouse shows the animals being treated with respect and such.

I'm a sadist and a bloodmouth carnist so pretty much how veganfags describe all meat-eaters, yet I don't feel the slightest guilt. Also, I like bacon

We can it a fresh delicious burger and u not

I love my meat and this faggot can cry her eyes out because there's nothing she can do about it.
Here, have a cucumber and go fuck yourself.

I prefer to eat anything that doesn't eat me first. Except for reasonably attractive females. I'll let them eat me first if they want.

>>675969934
It destroys your spirit forces your chakras out of alignment. Say whatever you want, these are facts.

The bait is strong in this thread

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OP's fetish

>>675968805
gays mentally ill? wtf u are ill there is nothing wrong about being gay or bi

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>>675963870
>vegan for 10 years
>near perfect physical health
>near perfect mental health
>crazy exotic dishes to explore
>growing my own food
>friends ask me to come out
>are you going to eat meat? No thanks then
>my mom gets cancer
>anon, come talk to me, i'm dying
>sorry mom I can't relate, since I'm a vegan in perfect physical health
>eventually lose all my friends and family
>i'm alone in the world, my only friend my home grown peppers
>go to vegan restaurant to eat by myself
>girl comes up to me
>hi, I just decided to go vegan, could you tell me what's good here?
>oh, well it's not that good actually, you should be growing your own food if you want to achieve perfect physical health
>oh cool, maybe you could make me something tonight then?
>she comes over for a date
>so anon, tell me about yourself
>haha well I'm a vegan
>yeah I know. Like what are your hobbies?
>h, well i'm a vegan. I like vegan. I'm in perfect physica health.
>okay, but what else do you like
>i grow my own food. Im a vegan you know. Im a vegan
>yeah, great, but—
>I'm vegan. I am vegan. Vegan am. Im in perfect physical health. I grow my own food
>Vegan
>I'm a vegan
>v e g a n

>>675970198
Like i said.... the bait is strong. You're a master-bater OP.

>>675969768
Take a B12 supplement then easy fix.

>>675969817
No I mean in the sense of pollution.

>>675969922
???

>>675969934
I can go into a lot of detail, but that would take to much time. I suggest it you research it yourself. Meat increases risk of cancer, cardiovascular disease diabetes and other diseases. Vegans have the highest life expectancy, lowest cholesterol and blood pressure. There are many reasons obviously as I said research yourself there is too much to be said in this text box.

>>675970198
Kek, so you have no real reason...faggot insults everyone, tells them they are wrong and can't even back up his claims. GTFO

>>675970316
Nicely done anon

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>>675970316
10/10 screenshot this shit please

>>675963870
>>>cross/fit/

>>675970330
Kek obviously you didn't do enough research

The majority of the b12 in supplements can't be used by humans
Could you site me some peer reviewed papers showing your claims of meat causing these health problems and vegans having better health? Because I think you are spouting off vegan propaganda with no evidence to support your claims

>>675970296
I'd like to see you say that in some arab country because I also would like to see what's inside a mentally ill faggots head. When it's cracked open on a sidewalk.

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>>675970316
Fucking kek

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>>675970316
I love you.

>>675970032
If you actually do hunt try coyote meat if you get a chance. I used to hunt them for
fur and bounty but sometimes I'd take the meat. The backstrap is best. I got 78 of them one day from a helicopter.

What do you do to replace all the protein that your body isn't getting? You must be drowning in cum just to keep up

>>675963870
Just ate a delicious 24oz steak for lunch. Was fucking amazing.

>>675965244
really nigger


meat and heart attacks/cholesterol:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15164336
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20683785
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/80/5/1102.full
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19263395
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24217704
http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=1846638
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19560285
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24727873
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17425596
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/89/5/1402.full
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19279082


meat based diets curing diabetes:http://dx.doi.org/10.1001/archinte.1920.00100060002001 http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=533706 http://www.jci.org/articles/view/100818 http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.0954-6820.1947.tb13795.x/abstract http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3544839 http://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJM198809293191304 http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/12/2/94 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1461145 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7848401 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9540949 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9853539 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15331548 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15767618 http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/2/1/34/abstract http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/86/2/276
meat has no effect on inflammation:
http://jn.nutrition.org/content/137/2/363.full

>>675971126
Thanks for the tip friend, but I'm a eurofag so i'll have to stick to boars, hares and deer

>>675971280
I ate 2 mutha fucka!

>>675970330
>Jah man, I could tell you, but go find some research that agrees with me.

fucking top kek

>>675970776
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2782991/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19279082

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4081456/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23083789

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2671114/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15523486

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23041226

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7019459

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23169929

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23046549

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23708150

Is that enough for you???
There is hundreds of studies PROVING that meat and animal products are bad for your health.

>>675971389
All good choices. I love me some fresh game to eat.

>>675971544
See
>>675971369

>>675971451
Look here ------> >>675971544

There just wasn't enough space for me to type everything, and of course I haven't linked much since it would take me a couple of hours to gather the hundreds of studies.

>>675963870
I also grow my own food but I'm not a fairy who only eats vegetables. I slaughtered my cow today
>hurr durr feels good you fucking faggot

>>675967879
And what kind of literal faggot doesn't eat eggs. They are so fucking good for you.

Fatty unprocessed meat is bad
Meat that is lean and unprocessed is good. Biggers have never taken a bio course and have don't know what cholesterol and fats are.

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>>675967879
unfertilized eggs would just keep laying there till they'd rot away or some other animal ate them
Of all things vegans do, this is the one that puzzles me the most

Chickens lay eggs anyway, no point in letting those yolks go to waste

>>675964792
Im on a heavy protein diet and i digest quicker than 12-18 hours. check mate vegan fag

>>675971671
These are studies showing what?

I opened a few and it stated that vegans have lower risks of getting cancer than non vegans.

Too many retries: POST failed (StatusCode=0, Response=null)

>>675971950
thats slow

>>675971955
He doesn't expect us to actually look into them, he just wants to intimidate us with the sheer number of links he could find that "prove" his point

>>675965158
This
Because we are Smart enough to prepare our meals (ea Beat meat with a hammer) we save calories because we have to chew less
Meat made us great

>>675970839
edge

>>675971731
Yes, high amounts of saturated fats are great for you.

My mouth waters at the thought of chicken periods. I love destroying the planet my health and killing animals!

>>675971698
>but these huuundreeeds of studiees q.q
There are all kinds of research that claim this and exact opposite, also know as worthless piece of shit studies that are paid by someone to boost their agenda. Meat is life, meat is love, keep your carrots and shove em up your ass.

>>675971126
>78 of them one day from a helicopter.
nice touch
This is what proves you're a faggot

>>675972093
If meat is so great, why is it that carnivores have the lowest intelligence.

The only animals which even come close are primates who are HERBIVORES.

>>675971544
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2782991/

high fat high carbohydrate is terrible for you, the carbohydrates in this study aren't from meat


>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1927908

epidemiological study in other words a waste of time, meat eating is also associated with drinking and smoking more so this is why meat eaters die more

>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4081456/

more epidemiology

>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23083789

meat doesn't cause an increase in the atherogenic subtype of LDL


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2671114/

vegetarians also eat less processed carbohydrates devoid of fibre which slows down risk of diabetes, if you want to not have any risk of diabetes no carbohydrates should be consumed

>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15523486

low carb meat based diets cure insulin resistance, see studies above

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23041226

also inversely associated with consumption of refined carbohydrates and just more epidemiology

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7019459

meat doesn't increase the atherogenic sub type of LDL

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23169929

epidemiology, like earlier meat is associated with smoking and drinking more

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23046549

so they were eating more meat, still just epidemiological they were also eating refined carbohydrates


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23708150

heme iron doesn't increase inflammation markers however carbohydrates do http://jn.nutrition.org/content/137/2/363.full

>>675963870
Eat all the vegetables you want, more pussy for me.

>>675972261
Most primates are omnivores.

>>675972261
how fucking stupid are you, sheep and cows are the dumbest things around way more stupid than dogs and humans are the smartest animals on the planet because we ate meat

>>675963870
>crazy exotic dishes to explore

holy shit you sound like a faggot

>>675972155
Why don't you show me some of those studies proving veganism is bad with MECHANISTIC DATA.

Meat = destruction of planet, your health and death of animals.
You are an ignorant idiot.

>>675972093
Yes. One intelligent anon in this thread

>>675971955
>>675972052
>stop trying to learn!

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>>675972147
>2016
>still listening to outdated and incorrect 80's studies

Dear Meat eaters,

Mike Tyson and Nate Diaz are both vegan.

Where is your God now?

>>675972261
monkeys play with their poop

>>675972147
see>>675971369

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>>675972261
in general, omnivores are smarter than carnivores and carnivores are more intelligent than herbivores

carnivores actually have to be smart enough to catch an another animal, while most herbivores just have to gtfo faster than their predator

This isn't even hard man, eat more meat
your brain needs it

>>675972427
Do you want to actually provide some proof, showing that meat gave us intelligence?

>>675972494
Would you care to show some recent studies showing how SATURATED FAT IS GOOD FOR YOU?

>>675972540
So do humans.

Wow that's so cool, I fit all of the same criteria except I don't have to be an asshat about what I eat.

>goes to food establishment, doesn't order some stupid ass not in the menu vegan bullshit.
>doesn't complain and refuse food when they are to busy to care about your individuality and personal taste in food.

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>>675972508
2 out of a few million aren't little faggots
congrats OP, nice ratio there

>>675972671
see>>675971544

>>675972685
Most humans are actually smart enough to not just eat vegetables.

>>Eat whatever I want
>>140lbs
>>crazy exotic dishes not limited to things not containing animal products
>>perfect health
>>so perfect that I can't even kill myself
>>turns out I'm immortal

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OP's nickname is Vegan, he is in a Palringo room called [Atheists]

>>675972508
Mike Tyson is a retard

>>675972803
Nigger are you dumb I looked into those links and you are providing proof that you are a retard.

Those links show that veganism lowers risk of cancer proving my argument you fucking idiot.

>>675972442
Ok, I'll bite. I throw in some shit research like you did:
http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObject.action?uri=info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0088278&representation=PDF

http://www.livescience.com/26278-risks-raw-vegan-diet.html

So yeah. Shit research won't save your cause.
Especially since >>675972310 bothered to go through them and finding them faulty.

How's that b12 deficiency? 92% of vegans lack that vitamin.
You're also missing out on the good cholesterol that gives you testosterone, which is why you're a little boy pussy.

>>675972956
sry wrong post>>675971369

>>675973090
This, it isn't about my health as much as it is not being a low testosterone faggot who willingly steps down from the top of the good chain.

>>675970316
now this story is cool

>>675972671
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/early-meat-eating-human-ancestors-thrived-while-vegetarian-hominin-died-out/

>>675973210
*food chain

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>>675963870
Pic related

>>675972990
Are you fucking serious.
The first thing you linked was a fucking SURVEY not a study a fucking SURVEY.

Then you link some shitty buzzfeed article which doesn't even raise points about not going vegan and instead talks about stupid shit like detoxes and nutrient loss.

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>>675972508

> Mike Tyson

Yep, monkeys don't eat meat. I'll give you that one.

>>675973373
so debunk>>675971369

>>675973373
Made in medical university of Graz. Charts show higher risk of many diseases with vegans.
Beats your shit research any day.

>>675967315
>intelligent enough to do science
>do science
what even is your line of work faggot

>>675963870
Just half of those exotic dishes are gone cuz they have meat and ur a pussy

>>675973652
majority of those links show that veganism is good for you, i havent looked at them all and im not going to waste my time.

you idiots look for the tiniest excuse not to be vegan and there is not a single one.

go vegan, save the planet, get healthy and dont harm the animals.

>>675973775
You ignore my example because you know it's true >>675973090

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>>675967315
I attribute 100% of your autism to being vegan.

Not a vegan but...We do certain people take it as a personal insult that other people do not wish to eat meat or dairy. Even going to the trouble of finding research, reports etc and constructing arguments why it is shit to be vegan.

You deserve to be trolled.

>>675973775 did you even read the studies, they prove that meat is good for you

veganism doesn't save the planet, how do you propose we replace top soil after plants have been grown there? only large groups of herbivores like cows can do this

veganism isn't healthy, vegans have less lean mass than meat eaters and many more deficiencies

who gives a shit about animals and if you eat grass fed beef you kill less animals than eating vegan does

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>>675964792
this shows all
but there are still dumbasses that will complain
what a fucking stupid people I can't even..

>>675973868
So how do you get your B12 from meat?
Those animals are fed B12 supplements.

B12 Deficiency occurs in non vegans as well.
If you are worried about B12 just take a supplement that is an easy fix.

Can you explain how cholesterol gives you testosterone? You completely lost me there.

>>675974011
Because when a vegan tells you that you're a wrong for being a livestock farmer I have to take it personally considering its my lively hood. I don't own a super farm were animals are in small cages.

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>near perfect mental health

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I bet you have delicious semen. I've always wanted to guzzle some vegan meat free semen. Tasty cum???

>>675963870
did you master anything else in your life or just eating healthy?

a vegan diet is actually the only diet clinically proven to reverse heart disease. the world biggest killer.

>>675974205
B12 is a water soluble vitamin that is involved in the function of every cell in the body.
Cholesterol is a crucial molecule in the body and is part of every cell membrane. It is also used to make steroid hormones like testosterone. Studies show that saturated fat intake correlates with increased testosterone levels

>>675963870
I actually agree that the vegan diet is healthier and without drawbacks, unless you count attitude and inferiority complex. I'm still a meat eater and it does kind of bother me. Like, I won't try Kangaroo at Game. I always just get the angus beef. Feels comfortable now.

>>675963870
Not sure if posting on /b/ is a sign of
>perfect mental health.

Fucking berry picking faggots. Your father doesn't love you because, instead of hunting with the men to find food of actual substance, you stay behind with the women to pick berries and act like a bitch with a finger up your asshole.

Nobody likes a man who is too sensitive to kill and eat all of life.

>>675973210
vegans actually have a higher test than meat eaters.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2374537/

also vegans have better blood flow = better erections. viagra is a multi billion dollar industry because of all the fat low test meat eaters out there :P

>>675963870
>Vegan for 20+ years
>bowel cancer at 41
>now shit in a bag

>>675967430
>cheese in salad
not vegan salad

>>675974630
If you actually read the whole thing
"Vegans had higher testosterone levels than vegetarians and meat-eaters, but this was offset by higher sex hormone binding globulin, and there were no differences between diet groups in free testosterone, androstanediol glucuronide or luteinizing hormone."
Nice try, faggot

>>675974630
False. Vegans don't have genitals.

Answer me this vegans, why aren't you vegetarians instead? I realise that the majority of vegetarians are normal people whilst a lot of vegans are extremist hippie faggots. If you have a problem with the egg and dairy industry that is a problem specific to your country. Every faggot I hear refers to the cruelty of animals in the industry but knowing that USA has one of the worst animal welfare systems compared to the rest of the world.

Are you telling me that the way they treat animals in the US is the same as in Switzerland or Austria? Those countries have the best systems, Austria even legally recognises that animals are sentient beings that feel pain.

>>675974041
Roughly 65 million square kilometers are used for agriculture.

Out of that about 10-15 million is used to cultivate crops and the remaining 50 MILLION or so square kilometers are dedicated to raise animals.

50% of crops grown in that 10-15 million square kilometers of land is used to feed the animals.

So lets say if the world went vegan, we could sustain our selves on much less land, using less water, pesticides, chemicals.
Less deforestation, land clearing. Less pollution from animal agriculture.
Less mining for fossil fuels to fuel the slaughter of animals. Less waste of water in producing animal products


Livestock and their byproducts account for at least 32,000 million tons of carbon dioxide (CO2) per year, or 51% of all worldwide greenhouse gas emissions.

Livestock is responsible for 65% of all human-related emissions of nitrous oxide – a greenhouse gas with 296 times the global warming potential of carbon dioxide, and which stays in the atmosphere for 150 years.

Cows produce 150 billion gallons of methane per day

Animal agriculture water consumption ranges from 34-76 trillion gallons annually.

Agriculture is responsible for 80-90% of US water consumption.

Growing feed crops for livestock consumes 56% of water in the US.

2,500 gallons of water are needed to produce 1 pound of beef.

477 gallons of water are required to produce 1lb. of eggs; almost 900 gallons of water are needed for 1lb. of cheese.

1,000 gallons of water are required to produce 1 gallon of milk.

The facts go on and on but those are just a few.

>>675963870
>>675963870

>eat garbage my entire life
>get fat
>realize I need to stop and get /fit/
>start getting into bodybuilding
>muh dirty bulks
>now, 6' 225 mostly muscle, around 10-12% bf

Conversely:
>friend is raised vegan
>5'8 130lbs soaking wet
>continues to be vegan because brainwashed
>tells me I'm going to get cancer eating meat and the rest of the GMO garbage I'm consuming
>he gets cancer

It doesn't fucking matter.

>>675963870
>crazy exotic dishes to explore
except anything with animal products which is most of the world's cuisine

>>675967315

I attribute 100% of your cocksucking faggotry to being a vegan. Faggot.

>>675975044
What, you want that land and water for you and your faggot friends to have music festivals on?
Those numbers don't mean shit and offset by bad farms versus good. You're a terrible human being.

>>675975214
gr8 b8 m8

>>675975044
im not talking about grain fed cows being good for the environment im talking about grass fed cows which are good for the environment

>>675975311
I guess >>675975020
>>675974835
>>675974424
Is all bait when it's actually proving you wrong.

>>675975020
health reasons personally. eggs are loaded with cholesterol. dairy makes you fat and weakens your bones. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxnBDDqXSjk

>>675963870
there's no such thing as a real vegan. When your fruits and veggies are harvested, numerous small animals are killed by the harvesting equipment. So your food has been bathed in the blood of field mice. Enjoy.

>>675975604
It's only bad for you when you consume a shit load, like everything else in the world.
Vegans are fear mongers

>>675975777
1 in 2 get heart disease. 1 in 3 get cancer.

also diabetes, osteoporosis, high blood pressure, obesity, arthritis etc etc etc


moderation tho

>>675975604
cholesterol isn't bad for you:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15164336
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20683785
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/80/5/1102.full
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19263395
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24217704
http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=1846638
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19560285
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24727873
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17425596
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/89/5/1402.full
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19279082


meat increases bone density:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20717017
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22013455/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19419322
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21529374
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21102327
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/62/3/621.abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/727162


vegans have less dense bones:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16942519
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19571226

>>675975503
Look at what I was replying to, that guy was just being a retard.

>>675976036
/thread

have fun being weak little fags with a superiority complex.

>>675976016
1-2 people get heart disease and 1-3 get cancer. If that was remotely true there would be a lot less humans walking around.
>wake up sheeple

>>675963870
>>near perfect physical health
>>near perfect mental health
Thats biologically impossible anon, we humans are desinged to eat everything, thats why we eat meat with salad.

>>675972241
I guess you've never heard of nuisance animals or overpopulations. It was about making money. It just proves you're the real faggot here.
Ted Nugent got 455 pigs in Texas in one day from a helicopter.

>>675963870
Op how long did it take to get your telekinetic vegan powers? Also did one of your friends have to die to give you enough rage to become super vegan, or did you just get it by training at 100x earth's gravity?

>>675975044
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_Bowl

Overfarming in the traditional way ALWAYS results in unusable land. Animal byproducts replenish top soil, albeit, slowly.

The solution isn't millions of acres of crops. We'd just fuck up the world more than we already have.
http://world.time.com/2012/12/14/what-if-the-worlds-soil-runs-out/

>>675975373
Grass fed cows, still require supplementation, antibiotics etc.

They still require need large amounts of water.
They still require large amounts of land.
They still produce methane and carbon dioxide.
They still must be slaughtered, transported etc. which contributes to pollution.

Raising livestock is a very ineffective use of resources, yes grass fed cows produce less pollution but, they use up so many resources which we could use directly and it would last us x10 as long.

>>675964792
You have 4 onivore teeth, we humans were killing animals with weapons, not with our mouths, thats why we have only 4

>>675966218
lost

>>675976036
Thank you, saved me from wasting my time with that faggot.

>>675975604
The problem will veganism is it is an extremist ideology. If you choose not to eat dairy or eggs that's fine but I think it's faggorty when you specifically make your life harder when eating with non vegans and denying yourself B12, being forced to take supplements for it. If I were a "vegan" I would reduce my intake of whatever's bothering me but not flat out omitting it completely. Vegans like to shove their ideology down our throats, that's our problem, same for OP, a huge faggot which proves this.

>>675976417
That is a solution that we must figure out. However raising livestock is a waste of resources and is detrimental to the planet.