im a cyclefag but i do hate cyclist. most people on bikes are people who committed duii but dont know what the laws are for biking or kids who dont care what the laws are for biking

>>675822683
i hate fixies

Yes. And though not all are bad, I never assume they won't do something stupid cause the majority that is.

>>675822683
Just my faggot mayor for ruining the roads catering to them. Seriously the most obnoxious bike lanes ive ever seen.

>>675822683
the fuck? no.
why would you "hate cyclists"?

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Cause they some gay as mofos that support bernie sundies

>>675822683
that's a pure sports bike, not equipped for the road.
what do you care what other people do on their race tracks?

sometimes

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Nope.

Bikes we're such a great invention. Not to mention they are often a faster way to get around a busy city than public transit or a car.

>>675822683
when they ride on two lane canopy roads with blind curves? yes.

>>675822683
Only the ones that think they own the road, weaving between lanes of traffic and generally doing stupid shit.

>>675822966
how did they pass their bike safety test in school then? by now pretty much every person should've had one, they started those in, what, 1960?

>>675823795
literally the only example of how a bicycle is good transportation. it's exercise more than anything.

>>675823055 fuck you

>>675822966
you can get a dui on a bicycle too.

>>675822966
the alcohol limit is the same for bikes as it is for cars.

>>675823055
yup, subhuman scum

>>675824473
I don't think that's true, but even if it was, you're acting like it's a minor or irrelevant factor. Billions of people live in densely populated cities and waste hours of their time in traffic.

Even if that was the only use, it was still be a damn good one.

>>675824941
and their are just as many people in small towns that aren't full of buildings that are right next to each other in which some people have an hour or more commute in the morning. in this example, yes, bicycles are irrelevant and obviously inferior.

>>675825245
there* durr

>>675824901
not just sub-human, bikes are entirely non-human

"scum" isn't usually applied to mostly metallic objects

>>675825245
unlike city population, though, rural population is shrinking at a rapid pace, making your scenario ever more irrelevant over time.

>>675825245
See: >>675825559

Not to mention, you missed my point. I'm not saying there aren't situations where bicycles aren't very helpful - of course there are. All I'm saying is "There is only one situation where they are useful" is a pretty shitty argument when that situation is the daily lives of literally billions of people.

>>675826584
bahaha what were they thinking

>>675822683
Some are just complete stupid fucks. I commute to work via a country road since the dual carriage to that area is usually rammed up.

Occasionally some twats decide to cycle on that road instead of using the dedicated bike path next to the carriage way and hold up a mile of cars.

I also can't fucking stand it when they ride parallel to each-other to make overtakng even fucking harder

Post cool looking bikes faggots

>>675826584
>>675827334
The cyclists were legally in the right. The truck shouldn't have crossed that white line.

>>675823225
>I never assume they won't do something stupid
That's exactly how I feel about car drivers. Can't blame you tho, a lot of cyclists are imprudent jerks.

>>675824533
He is saying they previously had DUIs in cars, so now they bike. You don't need a license to use a bicycle, or insurance.

>>675826189
and you are missing my point which is there are equally as many people who don't rely on bikes and are perfectly fine with it. we dont NEED bikes and they are becoming more irrelevant as we speak.

>>675824473
The bicycle is literally the most efficient means of travelling period. nothing can move as quickly with as little energy.

>>675827803
energy efficient: maybe. but overall? no i dont think so

>>675827661
bait?

>>675827976
Bait.

>>675827976
does it sound like b8?

>>675827504
no they were not. they were thrill seeking fuck heads.

unmotorised or low powered motorised vehicles are not allowed on highways.

>>675824405
are you over sixty?

ITT: proving that cyclist fags really are the queers of the transportation world.

>>675827976
yea bait. there's not even a logical cohesion to his theory. just the butthurt of a yokel.

>>675822683
Yes.
99.9% are faggots
99.9% are poorfag faggots
99.9% are poorfag faggots with no class, who don't obey the traffic laws everyone else has to and are easily the rudest of the rude on the road

The dumbest shit is northern cities (with snow, i.e., half the year) where they dedicate whole chunks of a city to cyclist lanes under some ridiculous notion that this saves the environment.

Clue: The lanes given up for cars to do this cause more cars to sit idle in traffic, hence more car emissions. Accordingly, these "bike friendly" cities have their basic premise wrong and could not be more backwards and are actually harming the environment. Also, fyi, even in the U.S., where most people own a car, according to the U.S. Department of Transportation (heavily liberal arm of Congress), less than 30% of U.S. global warming emissions come from the transportation sector. What they don't tell you is that even this low number (30%) is puffed up in that it includes planes, trains, ships, ground freight, and lastly private transportation. It turns out that of that 30%, less than 2% of that is accounted for by private transportation (cars people drive). Thus, all the mainstream media nonsense about how "cars" cause all this problem is just pure bullshit. Still, bikes ultimately cause more hydrocarbon emissions indirectly when cities become "bike friendly".

Dumbasses, and typical government propaganda.

>>675828176
no, twenty. passed bike safety when i was 14.
why?

>>675828108
Depends on state / country. In Wyoming, you can cycle on all the freeways.

Though even if the cyclists shouldn't have been there, the truck still shouldn't have crossed the line.

Best case scenario for you is that they were both wrong.

>>675827976
u literally just say "no ur argument is shit" without providing any evidence and call me baiting? really?

let's say it's pouring down raining and i live 20 miles from my job. do you really think i'm going to ride a fucking bicycle down a dirt road for a mile then get on pavement and do another nineteen? that's my fucking argument, dude>>675828386
>>675827976

>>675828933
Live in civilization where there aren't dirt roads.

>>675828593
This is my first time hearing about a bike safety test

>>675822683
Yes. Fag that I know always talking loudly about his bike and how far he rides. Wears his bike gear all the time and basically is an attention whore. He bought a stolen bike off ebay. I should call the cops on him.

>>675829103
exactly my point (which i've stated multiple times but you fags still don't seem to get) is that a SHIT TON of people don't live in big cities that are right next to door to your job and you could walk there faster than take a fucking cab or right a faggy bicycle.

I am one. Fuck everybody.

>>675829440
die in a fire

>>675829172
what do you do then, let the kids loose on their bikes without any safety instructions?

sounds mad irresponsible

>>675828496
Yeah, the average car at idle produces a shitload of VOC's yet for literally zero travel. Incredibly inefficient. It's like running an engine for no reason. Especially a problem in cities where civil engineers fuck with the roads to make bike lanes and cause tons more cars at idle. When a car is moving, it actually produces less VOC's and CO compared to NOx in the ratio of emissions, plus it actually MOVES and when someone gets where they are going, they can then shut it off. Engines are made to run efficiently while moving, not while at idle. Just common sense.

Bikes do cause more emissions this way.

>>675828496
die in a fire

>>675829612
haha yes
I guess where I'm from our parents actually care about us enough to teach us bike safety their selves, not wasting government funds

>>675829612
Never heard of someone being knocked down from a car on a bike, where I live

>>675829172
In school as a kid we went to this dope ass training center, like a miniature city to learn the rules of the road on our bikes. Shit was cash

>>675828933
>that's my fucking argument, dude

no. your argument was
>there are equally as many people who don't rely on bikes and are perfectly fine with it
>we dont NEED bikes and they are becoming more irrelevant as we speak

where's the logic in that? it's not MORE people every day not living in urban areas, it's less. how the fuck would that make bikes more irrelevant.

you were just parroting my argument's structure with non-sense. because you're a yokel.

>>675829955
we did something like that, too.

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>>675829955
Then came the power wheels the yeat after!
Tell me there's some GTA fags here that remember the Durham region training center lmao

>>675822683

I live in SW Ohio where we have a bike trail, which spans over 100 miles and these fags in their wannabe Tour de France gear saddle up, ride on public roads, slow travel and do not obey traffic laws. I think it's safe to say that I fucking hate them. When it's nice out, I drive a 2001 ZO6 with over 700 whp, headers, x pipe and muffler delete cat back. I do not budge an inch when passing them and fucking hit the rev limiter, which usually results in them nearly wrecking. Too bad there aren't any cliffs nearby.

>>675829644
no. cars cause more emissions this way, because it's usually too many cars that cause a traffic jam, not too many bikes.

the world has yet to observe a bicycle jam.

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>>675823055
this. I'm personally a mtb junkie and have nothing against those who use a road bike to get from A to B without being retards, but holy shit fixies are so fucking gay.

>>675829324
Of course we get it, you idiot. Nobody is challenging that point. Look at my response in: >>675826189 : "I'm not saying there aren't situations where bicycles aren't very helpful - of course there are." You are right to point out that living in bumfuck nowhere in the middle of a dirt road in the rain is one of those times.

Your point is "There are plenty of people for whom bicycles are not useful" my point is "there are plenty of people for whom bicycles are useful" Do you really not understand that one can consistently maintain both of those points at the same time?

Luckily there are less and less of you country yokels every day.

>>675828669
Your argument was that "roughly 50% of the world lives in rural areas so fuck the other 50% that bikes are useful for" I legitimately was under the impression that you were trolling. We aren't talking about the convenience of driving. We are talking about the usefulness of bicycles in densely populated areas.

>>675828933
If you live out in the country you would be retarded not to own or have access to a motor vehicle. If you live in the city and it's pouring raining than take transit. Neither of these scenarios undermines the bicycle as a method of efficient transportation. Yes, some days are not ideal for biking.

>>675822683
Why would I hate morally superior road users? They have every right under the law to use the roadway, hating them, especially as they are better people than motorists, would be silly.

>>675830322
Have you been to London? I think you'll find the world has seen a few

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>>675823921
That covers 95% of them

>>675830644
Look into confirmation bias, my friend.

>>675830249
Holy shit I went there as a kid
I got the power wheels shit was so cash

>>675830250
oh you are so much better than the people you complain about. where did you get your license? traffic rules are about respect towards the other vehicles, not being a road warrior with needs for compensation. lol fag

>>675829973
>implying that one part of my words was an entire argument.
i'm the yokel though, right?

you are incapable of understanding the simplest piece of information provided to you as i've stated MANY FUCKING TIMES that there are just as many people in big cities that ride bikes that drive cars in small towns, cities. implying that those people would have to travel much longer distances in small cities, towns than they ever would in a place like say NYC. The amount of people who ride bikes to work in my town is almost nonexistent. now that doesn't mean bros wont do it for shits and gigs on the weekend. but it's not the primary transportation to work for 99% of my town and shit ton of other towns. YA GET IT NOW? cuz im not going to say it again. i'll just call u a dumb nigger for the remainder of the thread

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>>675822683
>>675822683
Of course

>>675830390
maybe YOU were talking about "densely populated areas" but that's not what i was referring to obviously. so don't try to make it seem like WE were talking about the same thing, which we clearly aren't

I hate these gay mother fuckers when i'm driving. The could easily get exercise in their neighborhood, because not all roads have bike lanes. But these faggots want to ride their bikes on main roads in my city, and expect every single car to change lanes and pass them. I just want to run them over. They never ride on the sidewalk when they have the option to.

>>675830561
a few. a few? A few!?

are you retarded? how are "a few" relevant when compared to the astronomical amount of daily car-only traffic jams.

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sweet justice

>>675831312
i luv it.

>>675830983
maybe you should learn to quote the right posts then, yokel.

>>675831471
no u, yokel

>>675831218
They have the right to use the road. Stop being a fat environmentally degrading cuck.

>>675831602
>muh environment
the earth is already fucked, dude. there's nothing we can do to stop it now

>>675830983
I guess what we are all wondering is where you are going with what you are saying. Now that you have clarified you don't seem to have a point other than "a small amount of people don't need bikes." Is that all you wanted to tell us?

>>675831706
NO...........YOUR MOMS BOX!

okay i'm done

>>675822683
If folks in cars started paying fair market price for their parking spaces, everything would be cool.

>>675831706
dumb nigger

im a cyclefag

done at least 10 miles today

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>>675822683
>commutes on a toy
>entitled to anything

Pick one.

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>>675831878
Try Death

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>>675831960
kek

I do not hate cyclists.
I drive a van and give cyclists as much space as possible.
I will also shield them.
I have no issue with people riding on pavements.
My only issues are; cyclists riding on the road at night with no lights on and cyclists with all the gear (sweet carbon bike, all the lycra, helmet with go pro etc) that run red lights. Other 'amateur' cyclists that run a red I have no issue with

>>675831695
we can keep you from making more people

>>675832094
>has nothing to do with the environment

>>675831602
Tell me why you refuse to ride on perfectly flat sidwalks when you have the option too. Also bike fags ALWAYS run red lights.

>>675831706
it is. he doesn't seem to know that his kind is slowly reducing itself.

http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/news/population/world-urbanization-prospects-2014.html

people keep moving into cities, so they can ride their bike to work. wouldn't expect a yokel to realise that.

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>>675832185
Roads are purpose built for wheels...

>>675822683
Sometimes when I run them over their bike fucks up my tires other then that I don't really hate then

>>675832234
>only fags ride bicycles because they prefer the anal vibration.
GOTCHA!

>>675832163
uh, yea it does.

>>675827803
What about a glider using thermals?

>>675832185
>Tell me why you refuse to ride on perfectly flat sidwalks when you have the option too. Also bike fags ALWAYS run red lights.

It is less safe to ride on the sidewalks as people coming from side streets have less of a clear line of sight. Also bikes have the right to use the roadway. As for red lights, it depends on the state - Idaho stops, for example, require bicyclists to slow down enough to stop for any cross traffic. Other states require bikes to stop. If a bicyclist ignores the rules and gets flattened, well, fuck em.

>>675832419
prove it

>>675831218
Man, I rode on the sidewalk once a few years ago and got a ticket for it, fuck the police. Is why I only roadside now.

>>675827803
sailboat

>>675829612
I went to one of the richest public school districts in Illinois. We had fucking everything.

Not bike safety though. Bike safety is definitely not part of a normal curriculum.

>>675830322
Lol. There's plenty of bicycle jam footage on youtube

>>675832185
sidewalks are for pedestrians, roads are built for bikes and cars.

you're not even allowed to ride a bike on the sidewalk, unless your're under 14. are you under 14?

>>675832284
The only thing that bothers me is that he doesn't look embarrassed.

>>675831602
Check your privelage m80. "Right" and "Holy Gift of Motorway Use Instead of Playground/Park/Driveway" are different things. Bikes are unsafe on the road, particularly when you morons ride hands-free while sending a frigging text.

>>675830978
Then don't act like you are impervious to the rules that everyone else in cars are beholden to follow. That, or get your faggot ass on the bike trail that tax payers funded so you could ride your archaic form of transportation without getting in everyone's way.

>>675832284

wow, is there a unicycle version?

>>675832570
Because nobody in a car has ever killed anyone while distracted by their cellphone. Nope. Not even one.

>>675832627
do you get cringier than this? wait dont asnwer that

>>675832311
Most roads are built for automotive use, and maintained with vehicle taxation.

>>675831218
a road bike can take damage riding on the sidewalk. Theres a reason theyre called road bikes. If the biker is positioned where they should be in the lane you shouldnt have to go more than 1-2 feet out of your way to pass. If thats really such an issue for you, I think you have greater issues in life and are looking for something to dump anger into.

>>675832311
Cars*
I hate autocorrect too.

You don't need two-feet of compacted asphalt to keep hipsters and middle-managers from sinking into the dirt.

>>675832740
How is this in anyway relevant to my point?

>>675832627
That's fucking impossible, sketch it up, you dolt.

>>675826584
sucks to be them, but that nigger didn't even look before changing lanes
I do that and I drive a three ton vehicle on the daily.

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>>675822683
ITT: You have to be a fag to ride a bike in US.

>>675832682
They haven't been hit and then blaimed everyone else m80

>>675832848
What was your point?

>>675832437
are you not breathing? are you not emitting carbon dioxide? has food not to be transported to your area for you to survive? do you not eat meat that has been breathing and farting methane?

i don't think i have to prove anything.

you prove to me your whole progeny will be carbon-neutral.

>>675832740
Balderdash. Most maintenance comes out of the general fund. The only reason automotive design had to become standard was because cars killed more people than the world wars. It would have been better if we banned cars from cities as some groups proposed.

>>675832819
dude most people go halfway in the other lane to avoid cyclists. it's really unnecessary but dumb drivers gonna dumb.

>>675833021
>implying im not a robot

>>675832861
Oh you

>>675832956
Someone asked why not ride on the sidewalk. Aside from the obvious point that in many places you'd get a ticket for this, my reply was that roads were built for wheels, bicycles have wheels, that's why I ride on the road.