>>675809276
free anal from christian sluts

>>675809276
The male nipple and how females are made first in woum

>>675809400
Lol no

>>675809400
/thread

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>>675809276
control

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>>675809276
if there were no religion, there would be less dank memes

>>675809276
we wouldn't have science if not for religion.

You'll live a better life rather than one of mindless hedonism and depression

>>675809276
Monks brew some pretty great tasting beer

>>675810007
religion probably being our first attempts at understanding the world doesn't mean it was necessary for science

>>675810037
as opposed to sexual and intellectual repression and guilt? nah

>>675810380
>sexual repression
Just a negative word for fucking self control
>intellectual repression
How in any way does it encompass intellectual repression?
>guilt
With christianity it's the opposite, though guilt is good to realize when you've done something wrong as a motivator to be better. But the point isn't to feel guilty for what you do, christianity entails living in the moment free of guilt and fear familia

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>>675809276

Theres no such thing.

People troll around here, 'relijin is gud' type posts, but in reality, most people here aren't stupid, no one is actually low IQ enough to actually believe in a flying cloud man.

>>675811240
>implying some of the smartest people alive aren't religious

>>675811038
>Just a negative word for self control
No, it's a word for condemning natural instinct as evil impulses, especially when people are homosexual.
>How in any way does it encompass intellectual repression?
Have you heard religious people talk about evolution or the big bang by any chance?
>christianity entails living in the moment free of guilt and fear
Bullshit. it entails feeling unnecessary guilt for natural instinct like sexual attraction. What you described is closer to the philosophy of Lavean Satanism

>>675809276
It is a means to explore and answer questions no other human endeavor can

>>675811655
dubs don't lie

>>675811526
>implying a smart person being religious somehow validates religion

>>675811655
>implying philosophy doesn't exist
1/10

>>675811526
They're obviously not that smart

You get to kill those you don't agree with.

>>675811791
>implying philosophy asks and answers the same questions

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>>675809276
You can become a cleric and take advantage of a shitload of stupid people

>>675811634
>Have you heard religious people talk about evolution or the big bang by any chance?
These people are just stupid americans who believe in creationism.
Most of our famous scientist were religious.
For example Einstein or Stephen Hawking.
Stephen hawking is believing in inteligent design.
But this doesn't hinder your intellect

religion while it fails to explain certain things that are common knowledge today, excels in other areas. like morals / ethics. andi realize one does not need religion to be a moral person, but religion laid down the basics back when it was okay to murder your neighbor cuz he looked at you wrong. maybe its common to have good morals without religion today, but thats only because of the thousands of years of conditioning by religion that have caused these morals to be naturally hardwired into our brains.

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>>675811959
>implying religion actually gives valid answers
"invisible sky daddy made everything"
"well I don't have an answer myself so I guess you must be right..."

>>675811634
>Have you heard religious people talk about evolution or the big bang by any chance?
2016 and not knowing that the Big Bang was first proposed by a Catholic priest, Georges Lemaitre, who was subsequently attacked by atheists because they said that the theory was a form of creationism.
Seriously, kill yourself for being so ignorant.

>>675811970
>Stephen Hawking is believing in intelligent design
No he fucking doesn't
>Einstein was religious
No he fucking wasn't

Trying to spread bullshit lies
3/10

>>675811743
You seemed to imply earlier that smart people that DON'T believe invalidates religion, or that religious people are stupid.
>>675811634
And you want to glorify sexual impulses then?

Yes I have heard them talk about evolution AND the big bang. Any intellectual christian/religious person will realize faith and science are not completely incompatible. In fact, I was like 12 when I was being educated at church camp on the big bang.

Well I don't see how having sex willy nilly could be a good thing, and only rarely even could it be neutral outside of marriage imo

>>675812315
>implying straw man arguments aren't a form of surrender

>>675811832
http://www.thebestschools.org/blog/2013/01/06/50-smartest-people-faith/

>>675812439
Not bullshit you faggot.
Three weeks ago I was in an intelligent design hearing.
I didn't agree what the professor said, but he stated this. Wait I google for better proof

>>675812433
And yet hordes of religious morons attack it as anti-god anyway. Regardless of the theological opinion of the guy who came up with it, plenty of idiots still hate it for no reason other than they think it threatens their beliefs

>>675812673
These people are what are known as complete retards

We'll all find out one day if there is an afterlife or not. If it turns out that theit really is a lake of fire or some form of eternal torture involving, fucking, lava for all eternity, then a lot of people are fucked. If there isn't, we'll you took a gamble and won. But if you lose, that one hell of a punishment.

>>675812797
My grammar makes me one of them, I think

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>>675812439
Maybe not christian but he's believing in some kind of god fag

>>675812439
Albert Einstein was ethnically Jewish and a practicing Catholic.

Philosophy major, think about this one simple fact...a scientist studying atoms is only a mass of atoms trying to understand themselves.

>>675812673
But when you ignore the supermajority who believe in science and foreground the cancerous retards who don't, you're being purposefully dishonest, or you're just fucking stupid.
Plus, I'd wager that atheists are more likely to believe not in the science of biological sex but that 'gender' is 'assigned.'

>>675812819
If there isn't, you took a gamble and neither won nor lost because you're simply dead and nothing you ever did mattered.

You only win if you take the gamble and wind up in heaven

>>675812497
>You seemed to imply earlier that smart people that DON'T believe invalidates religion
Nope. The intelligence of a person has no bearing on the validity of their beliefs. Let the arguments stand on their own.

>And you want to glorify sexual impulses then?
I want to make it so they aren't demonized, and are presented as natural impulses to be dealt with cautiously.

>Any intellectual christian/religious person will realize faith and science are not completely incompatible
Not true. What they "realize" they got to through cognitive dissonance and rhetoric. Any intellectually honest person realizes they can't go together.

>>675812498
>Implying I made straw man arguments

>>675812993
>is only a mass of atoms
This is exactly where philosophical materialism breaks down

>>675812993
>t. lsd dropper

>>675813143
>implying "invisible sky daddy made everything" isn't a straw man argument

>>675812925
Einstein believed in the god of Spinoza. He was a pantheist or a deist at most. He explicitly stated he thought the idea of a personal god to be childish.

>>675810037
But you're on here?

>>675813258
>implying that isn't actually what people believe

>>675813258
>implying everyone believes exactly in the sky daddy
You're stupid, religious doesn't mean following the bible 1:1
That's stupid, only americans do it

>>675812497
Shut up fag. Just because you cant get laid doesn't mean that I should be judged because I can

>>675812937
Not Catholic. Was ethnically Jewish though.

>>675813171
Exactly, there has to be something else.

>>675813301
Yeah of course. But that's one of many facets of religion.

>>675812819
>Not taking into account every other religion.

When you consider there are hundreds or thousands of different religions, the majority of which promising an afterlife of torture to those who don't believe in or follow their tenets, then by sheer probability we can all expect to have a shit afterlife, if there even is such a thing.

And actually, since many of them have jealous gods, the atheists are probably still better off. Wouldn't a jealous god be nicer to you if you lacked belief in any god than if you actively blasphemed and worshiped a false god your whole life?

Religions can't all be right, but they can all be wrong.

>>675813090
Then why did you say
>People troll around here, 'relijin is gud' type posts, but in reality, most people here aren't stupid, no one is actually low IQ enough to actually believe in a flying cloud man.


>they can't go together
And why is this? How long have you concerned yourself with this issue? How can belief in God and science cancel each other out when einstein and hawking even believe in some form of god? How do they cancel each other out when a god fits perfectly into an understanding of the universe as the original mover/creator of mass and energy?

I myself argue in favor of the christian God but it likewise is not incompatible with science. Just don't believe in an absolutely literal interpretation of the bible considering it was written by a bunch of ancient dudes. The only thing that seems incompatible is a belief in the supernatural which is just that, beyond what is natural like the resurrection of Jesus and souls but that's where faith comes in. I believe it ultimately leads to a life well lived rather than self-glorification and hedonism

>>675813601
It's the main facet of most religions. Very few, like Buddhism, don't have interventionist gods.

>>675813484
I have had sex many times, guy. I turned to Christ after I was lost in that world

>>675813890

Science makes objective claims and must have empirical evidence to verify them.

Religion makes objective claims with no empirical evidence to verify them, claiming one must simply "have faith".

When science is found to be wrong, it changes to adapt to the new information, growing further closer to total knowledge. Science never claims to be infallible. NO claim is unfalsifiable.

When religion is found to be wrong, it denies it, either using rhetoric in attempts to claim it was never wrong, or ignoring the conflicting data entirely. Religion always claims to be infallible. ALL claims are unfalsifiable.

Science and religion are 2 completely different and incompatible doctrines. If you believe otherwise, you misunderstand at least one of them.

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>>675809276

1. You have little regard for thinking for yourself what is right and wrong and want someone to tell you how to behave.

2. You have a hard time accepting your reality so instead of living in depression, you live in happiness by believing in a fantasy world where if you live in the present following <some behavior and ethic code>, the (fake) next world will be full of pleasure and happiness.

I'm not trying to be insulting, but if you are honest with yourself, that is what is good about organized religion.

The thought about the answer to "what happens after we die" is "nothing/we rot in the ground" is fucking terrifying to everyone. So those that can't handle it use religion to ignore the truth and make up a happy story, but the strong people just accept it as it is.

picture unrelated

>>675813934
Hm. I don't know that much about Buddhism or other religion to keep talking

>>675813171
>Implying consciousness might not just be an emergent property of objective functions like the structure and electrochemical workings of the brain

>>675814020
>I have had sex many times, guy
getting raped by your priest doesn't count sorry

>>675814020
you're still pretty lost if youre here

>>675814165
Probably the only real answer. Death is fucking terrifying, and anything that offers an escape from it is gonna sell, regardless of how bullshit is it.

>>675814053
Not all religious followers are what is known as gnostic theists. You are wrong on this one. Many, like me, follow God and Jesus but are agnostic, i.e. we don't claim we know everything or that the bible is literal unfalsifiable. Although many of our beliefs are inherently unfalsifiable in that they cannot have proof for nor against them, like the resurrection of souls for example.

You are the one who misunderstands religion. I'll sit here and have faith in what I believe to be true and live my life following the greatest role model of all time

>>675814297
K
>>675814319
I rarely browse anymore. I'm usually here for hg threads or the occasional yryl/ylyl when I saw this thread

>>675811634
I'm Christian, albeit Unitarian, but I believe in the big bang and evolution. There's a big difference between people of faith and evangelical whackos.

>>675811791
It's part of philosophy. It's metaphysics

>>675814522
I understand them perfectly. It's all about faith (unsupported belief) in things that makes you feel good. Go for it if you want, I don't give a shit, and I understand emotionally why most people need it, but it's not compelling or rational.

What you described is what's called a Christian Atheist. i.e. you don't believe the claims of christianity but you follow the moral teachings. Even then, it seems like the only thing keeping you from dropping it altogether is the fear of angering your god that's been drilled into your head since birth.

>>675813574
Why?

>>675813409
>implying you're not an imbecile who knows so little that it's pointless even to respond to you

>>675814165
That's all wrong, tho

>>675814269
>implying that if it was merely that it would be a reliable instrument to understand reality

>>675815265
>Implying what you just said counts as an argument and you aren't just incapable of arguing for the bullshit you believe

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>>675809276
she exists there must be a god