Very true. He at least isn't on the pay roll of middle east countries.

>>675443643
opposite, trump would make the US and the world a hell of less safe

>>675443643
Safer than with hillary or cuck sanders

>>675443643
Not at all. I'd be worried about petulant little bitch accidentally'ing a global nuclear war.

>>675444223
And the drawback of this would be?

>>675444223
Did I just accidently a war

>>675444268
nuclear winter for one

>>675444395
A nuclear war would just erase the scum known as humanity. This is a positive in my eyes.

>>675444535
you could do your part :)

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>>675444223
Yea, cuz that's how it works.

If you even paid attention to politics you'd realize he wants to step back from world policing and has a non interventional idealogy

>>675443643
Trump supporters are just conservative contrarians who feel the need to act personally offended when someone rightfully points out that Trump is a blustering asshole, if not a fascist.

>>675444223
I see you fucking retarded children/shills saying this all the time

about the only candidate that advocates for being on better terms with russia, not meddling in the sandbox

and fuck even advocating for a peaceful israel/palestine solution.

How dumb are you?

>>675444395
Pfuh. Nuclear winter is a hippie myh, and always was. There have been hundreds of nuclear detonations on this planet. The effects are well known. An entire nuclear war would put less particlulate in the air than one medium sized volcano.

For one thing, if you're kicking up a lot of dust with a nuke, you used it wrong. Optimal placement is airburst.

>>675444535
Then kill yourself, faggot.

>>675444223
Gotta love the tards who think the next major elected official of a country with nukes is gonna start WWIII. 1952 and senator Mccarthy want their propaganda back you stupid fucks!
Trump with nuke > Israel with nukes.
Trump with nuke > Pakistan with nukes.
Trump with nuke > north Korea with nuke

>>675443862
>He at least isn't on the pay roll of middle east countries.

>at least he isn't one of the lizard people.

Conspiracy fags are stupid.

>>675445049
Trump fascist.....? bernie communist....? what is with you ppl.
Go back to the dictionary bud. I think you left your brain in R for Retard.

>>675443643
yes yea I would. Next he needs to do something about the fags, dykes and liberal scum

>>675444808
better than not living in a liberal dystopia

>>675445097
Lol deff not an entire nuclear war man.... and deff not a medium sized volcano.
However the yellow stone super volcano at a medium eruption could equate to global suffering as global nuclear war could.

But I get what you mean man

>>675445401
>bernie communist....?
The difference between "democratic socialists" and communists is that one takes power with lies and the other with lies and bayonets.

But dear old Bernie stood on stage with active, communist enemies of the US in the 1980s. Sandanistas. And he spoke against the USA. Fact. Not even trolling, that's a documented fact.

>>675445392
>conspiracy
>all backed by leaked files and public information

>>675443643
Eh. Not necessarily. I would feel safer if he did the shit he's saying he will do, but I have a feeling that that's just the far edge of where he's starting to deal.

>>675445674
Then you should have trouble proving it.

>>675445392
Trump isn't on anyone's payroll.
Why do you think everyone is voting for him. Bernie can't be bought either but I guess the Democrats are behind in enlightenment because they're voting for a murderous establishment oligarch

>>675445792
>Why do you think everyone is voting for him.

Because they're sick of being ignored by politicians and expect him to fuck up Washington and deport illegals.

>>675445651
I guess so. I'm not a bernie fan. But other nominees have stood by anti-American groups or groups that are evil ya know?

>>675445966
This

>>675443643
But I feel safe now. Should I not? Why, what's going on? HOLY SHIT AM I IN DANGER!?!?!?!?!

I vote for bernie. I went to college but didnt graduate. I owe money but I dont owe 50k debt.

I also have 10k medical bills because cancer.

I dont receive food stamps, ss, or disability.

Just living the life. Cancer free except this cesspool.

>>675445968
>other nominees
He isn't a nominee.

And I would be interested in a list of other presidential contenders who issued statements of solidarity with foreign enemies who were actively shooting Americans and our allies. Do you have one?

>>675446111
Idk what your life has anything to do with who you voted for

>>675445049
And who's dick altar do you worship under? Cuck Sanders? Hillary RODham Clinton?

Are you waiting for muh free college? Or muh weelectedafemalepresident milestone?

These days I hope you libtards get your socialist wet dream and it fucking implodes on you in marvelous fashion.

Everyone says he is not on the payroll is retarded. He is a billionaire. That means he is not the one being bought, he is the one buying souls. Instead of a middle man you are going directly to the source. It is STILL BAD. It is still the same bullshit.

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>>675443643
Don't be fooled by his latest little act targeted at ignorant GOP primary voters. Trump is probably the biggest proponent of cultural Marxism in US politics:

http://dailycaller.com/2015/05/04/donald-trump-faults-draw-mohammad-event-organizer-for-taunting-muslims/

>>675446353
He is the payroll.

But, who cares? I'd rather have a right leaning president and congress. I think they'd do less permanent damage than literally anyone on the left side of the aisle.

>>675446224
>hope you libtards get your socialist wet dream and it fucking implodes on you in marvelous fashion.

Like Obamacare.

>>675446353
>Instead of a middle man you are going directly to the source. It is STILL BAD.

This. "I like Trump becaise he isn't a pawn of billionaires." No, he IS a billionaire. If you think "billionaires" are an evil class of selfish assholes, WHY THE FUCK IS BEING ONE A SPECIAL QUALIFICATION?

Still better than either of the Democrats, though. But only just.

>>675446502
>Trump is probably the biggest proponent of cultural Marxism in US politics

What a fucking stupid lie. Go away.

>>675446111
Nice trips, but you're misguided if you're voting for sanders.

>>675446149
Like I said not defending bernie.
But look back since post JFK. Look at the ppl and groups they helped advocate for either while in smaller offices before becoming a presidential candidates.

George Bush Sr advocated for the Taliban while VP of Regan.
How about those that supported apartheid in SA and still today in Israel. Those who supported saddam, or every other African warlord. The lists are endless.

>>675446224
Point taken.

Its been proven the wall is pretty much a hoax. Why would you vote for someone who rambles about something he knows will never happen

Oh yeah, Trump will protect the US from all the scary Canadians. We Canadians really are trying to hop the border to the US so we can sell all of our heroin.

>>675446888
Ouch

>>675446859
Why don't you calm down and read that article proving that your hero is in reality a flaming liberal and Islamist defender.

>>675446741
I was thinking the whole wet dream. I honestly would die happy watching millions of liberals literally crying in the streets because their shit tier ideas eroded what little was left of what holds this damn place together. Like, I'd love to see millions of libtards making huge minimum wage salaries having to wheelbarrow cash into the store for a loaf of fucking bread. Or maybe die while waiting 3 years for a simple fucking procedure because there are 260 million other assholes trying to get healthcare.

Yes, I'm a bit on the bitter side.

>>675446967
We all know Canada is a first world ally and brothers of the north. No one in the US dislikes Canada.

>>675447120
The source is shit, and the article sounds like it was taken out of context.

>>675446954
I'm not voting for Trump either.

Stupid ideas are.. well, stupid ideas.

I'd happily vote for a libertarian candidate that wasn't batshit insane. I'm all for equal rights, but fuck this equal outcome redistribution fuckery.

>>675447327
It's true. Name a source you trust or google it yourself, this is not complicated stuff you're just in denial.

>>675447230
If it's a simple procedure, you don't die. If it's not a simple procedure, you are put to the front of the line. It's in the hospitals' best interest to keep you alive. Repeat customers are a good thing. Don't be silly.

>>675446943
>George Bush Sr advocated for the Taliban while VP of Regan.

The Taliban did not exist until about 1993.

>How about those that supported apartheid in SA and still today in Israel.

No one supported apartheid in SA, and it was US opposition that finally triggered repeal.

And there is no apartheid in Israel, that's a fucking stupid lie propagated by Jewhating morons. There are Arab soldiers, politicians, and judges in Israel. Full citizenship right, PLUS they're exempt from mandatory conscription.

>Those who supported saddam, or every other African warlord.

Literally no one. Saddam took power on his own. We supplied satellite pictures to Iraq and armaments to Iran so they could kill each other more effectively during the war in the 80s. Worked very well.

Also, wasn't an African warlord. God damn.

You have no fucking idea what you're talking about. At all.

No I wouldn't

>>675447120
Dude stfu. We all know they're are some crazy ignorant "muslims" out there that are so orthodox that if some ppl publicly says they are going to desecrate their holy book and draw pics of mohamed that they will hurt or threaten to kill. Trump said the damn truth. You shouldn't taunt the fucking rabid dog with a piece meat because you don't know what the repercussions can be

>>675447242
In Trumps newest speech he intends to build a wall on the US / Canada border

>>675447491

Look, a gullible idiot without first hand experience in socialized medicine! Where the doctors can let you literally die of thirst and never get in trouble, because sovereign immunity (NHS), and bureaucrats decide who will simply be allowed to die hecause it would cost the government too much to try to help them.

Let's be honest here guyz. even if he becomes president, how much power do you think he would really have? I'm not sure about how the legal system works, but wouldn't he need to go through congress before changing anything? The presidential elections are more of an illusion of choice. Powerful people will keep following their agenda while the people will keep being unheard.

>>675443643
as someone who doesn't live in the us, no, not at all

>>675447597
SJWs are saying the same thing.

Like freedom of speech is not a right...

>>675447491
It's simple. You end up waiting in line because there are 260 million other assholes trying to get Healthcare too. There is no other nation on the planet giving away free universal health care to that many people.

It will crumble, or at the very least offer shit tier care.

>>675446224
>>675445401
And would you look at that, here they are now. I've never had a Trump supporter on 4chan explain their views without using "cuck" or "libtard." Sounds to me your just projecting your own deficiencies onto others...

>>675447597
>You shouldn't taunt the fucking rabid dog with a piece meat because you don't know what the repercussions can be

Ah, the hecklers' veto. What a champion of liberty you must be.

I look forward to the day when Christians start beheading people who speak ill of THEIR religion, so criticizing or mocking becomes against the rules, too.

>>675443643
True

The ass hat can't keep the rallie safe. What makes you think he can make the country safe? Oh yea you are retarded! Stop swallowing your father's cum.

>>675447932
See
>>675447472

>>675447932
Clutch your pearls. The fainting couch is this way...

DAILY REMINDER THAT DONALD TRUMP NEARLY SHIT HIMSELF WHEN SOMEONE JUMPED A BARRIER UNARMED AND WALKED NEAR HIM :^)

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>>675443643
>You would feel a lot safer if Trump was president

>Implying having someone who is dangerously stupid, reckless and irresponsible in charge of the United States of Hurrdurpaderp is going to do anything but make the whole world more dangerous.

Damn son, you ain't even near a river...

>saged

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>>675445097
Do you have terminal 7 autism?
Do you know how many fucking nukes are ready and willing to be launched? Jesus christ almighty you're a retard.

>>675444847
This wouldn't work because of globalization. Everything is connected.

>>675447806
>I'm not sure about how the legal system works,

It's spelled out in the Constitution. It's in plain English and you should be able to read it in under 1 hour.

Or in particular Article II spells out the powers of the president. It is a very short read.

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>>675444223
War is coming whether you like it or not faggot. I'd much rather be on the offense

>>675445623
Let's nuke Yellowstone

>>675448112
Whats it like being a little faggot?

>>675448112
>unarmed

Suicide bombers look unarmed. So do knife wielders. So do people with concealed handguns.

Secret Service took it seriously. But you don't... guess you know better than them.

>faggot

>>675445265
Senator McCarthy? Do you mean Ted Cruz? (It's funny because Cruz looks like McCarthy.)

>>675448122
He was talking about trump not Clinton.

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>>675444223
It doesnt work that way. No one person in power can unilaterally start a nuke attack in the US. Chicken little, Bagawk! The sky is falling! Bawk! Trump! Bagawk!

>>675448207
Don't forget that Clinton and sanders supporters don't care about your 200 year old document. They'd be happy to see it land in the trashcan.

>>675448286
About the same as you looking towards a shriveled, rambling billionaire egomaniac to reassure your masculinity...

>>675445097
>>675444395
Nuclear winter is scientific fact. There are huge conferences on this regularly in which politicians from all over the world come and listen to the world's leading scientific minds. Vienna conference for example.

I wouldnt feel safe at all
How can a little bitch who got shittlessly scared of protests in chicago possible do well as a president

>>675447531
Youre the Fucking retard.
excuse me not the taliban but who they were before they change their name from the muhajideen, same leaders dumbass. Google them in the white house.

Many racists and candidates from the south supported apartheid in SA.

Lol there are barely any fucking Arabs in Israel because they all live in the ghettos known as the west back in Gaza. Isreal has white only or "jew only" busses, schools, mandatory id checks, areas where travel is banned the list goes on.

We never gave Iran weapons during the iran Iraq war of 1980 shit for brain, we did in, The ussr did we gave everything to saddam.

I also said every other African war lord not sadamm. Damn you're so dense. Go learn to read and history or learn to source and Google

>>675448165
>nukes willing to be launched
>missiles are inanimate objects, faggot

Yeah, call ME a retard.

Google it if you don't believe me. The analytical support for "nuclear winter" is approximately zero. It was literally invented by activists. Just like "assault weapons."

But God forbid you admit not knowing something and actually research a topic yourself.

>>675448165
Yo faggot, I'm still waiting for the war they said Reagan would start. That is how long this rumor has been going around.
Keep being a pussy.

>>675443643
The only positive I see from Trump is that he doesn't take shit from the cucks.

Other than that, I think he'd be a disaster.

>>675443643
Honestly no. I'm white and I love the basic message of restoring American pride, but trump is either insane or a total phony. He has zero scruples and zero competence. I really worry he'd destroy the economy and piss Muslims off with no actual plan to stop them.
TLDR I'd feel safer with a reasonable politician who shared trump's views but not with trump himself.

>>675448297
Trump likes acting high and mighty, the reason people harp on him for this is because it's a friendly reminder that he's human... And that his cunty bravado is likely just as fake as Hillary's.

>>675447472
The top .4 percent of Americans own 90 percent of our nations wealth. You must be ok with that, right?

>>675448297
Yeah, but he totally lost his composure. The man is your hero right, strong and brave? He looked like a fucking ghost when he realized people might to hurt him, which is a set condition in politics you have to live with. The elder Bush handled his composure when he got shot, but poor lil Trumpie needed to change his adult diaper after that one...

>>675447489
Fox News

ITT: Crockpot of unintelligible bs masquerading as knowledge

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>>675447597

Want to draw something in your own country? What nonsense! In fact our women should all wear burkas and convert as not to offend.

Apparently Trumpsters will apologize for Trump's bullshit no matter what. It's a fucking cult.

>>675444223
I'm so tired of this brain dead argument.

It doesn't work that way faggoy.

Mods ban this underaged faggot

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>>675447716
But he also wants to buy prescription drugs from Canada too. Which is more likely, wall or drugs? Thats right, sensible free market commerce, not isolationism.

No. No I wouldn't you dumb faggot.

>>675448511
You're thinking of Al Qaeda, a group who Reagan referred to as being "The moral equivalent of America's founding fathers." That's a direct quote, by the way.

>>675448668
Yup. Totally fine with it.

>>675444223
Worse than that. After American interventionism and meddling that has caused the rise of Isis and the refugee humanitarian crisis, he wants to close down and become insular.

Like some pikey hick ass faggot who punches someone and then runs and stands by a teacher going haha you can't get me.

You lot fucked the planet up so now you can accept the consequences you bunch of spineless racists. There will be no trump wall and there will be no crying off and taking your ball home.

You think that all the other western countries would accept that? Diplomatic suicide - the rest of the world's governments would make America suffer and before you know it trump would do a u-turn.

>inb4 America doesn't need other countries

Good luck with that argument faggot talk to me in 10 years and see if your political illiteracy actually worked out for ya.

>>675448841
Nice intelligent retort... "HURR DURR, MODS BAN HIM HIS OPINION ISN'T MINE HURRRRRR"

>>675448490
>Nuclear winter is scientific fact.

Really? Show me one.

>conferences

Yeah, there were conferences about how the polar ice caps would melt by 2000, too. "Scientific fact."

>>675448511
I literally have a degree in this, you stupid shit.

Israel has more than a million Arab citizens. Not Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza. Citizens. A 30 second visit to Wikipedia would confirm this, but you're too arrogant and lazy to bother.

>SA

Show me one single presidential nominee who spoke in favor of apartheid. Since that was the original claim.

>We never gave Iran weapons during the iran Iraq war of 1980 shit for brain

Before 1979, Iran was a US client state. They had lots of US equipment. Their airforce STILL flies F 14 Tomcats.

Again, you have no fucking idea what you're talking about. Stop pretending you do. It's embarrassing.

>>675448955
Citation needed, faggot.

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>>675448357

"HURRRRRRRR I driblitly mizunnerstan U!"

>>675443643
Yes, only because I don't live in the US anymore.

>>675448668
Prove it.

>>675448975
THIS.

>>675449275
http: //www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

"in fact, both wealth and income are super-concentrated in the top 0.1%, which is just one in a thousand."

>>675445097
OIC some anon knows better than Carl Sagan and a panel of 20 top scientists, I'll bet you think global warming is a conspiracy started by Al Gore too.

Besides the main person I'd be afraid of in a Trump Presidency is the Redneck Secret Police he's going to use to chase down perverts on the Internet, particularly the ones who post here.

>>675449162
>Show me facts of nuclear winter
Dinosaurs, dumbass.

>>675448446
Swing and a miss little man.
Try harder if it is even possible.
Born to be a cuck, raised to be a cuck.
I have no pity for your generation.

>>675449275
>>675449428
No more shit talk? Boo hoo faggot.

>>675444847
U realize he just said he wants to close our borders after wat happened in Brussels, and he wants to waterboard and was quoted saying "No matter what you have to get this information out of people", plus the wall and putting Muslims in a database. And the whole "The military will have to listen to me" which he then went back on the next day thankfully

Sounds like policing the world to me, pay attention better faggot...

>>675449564
See, you keep saying cuck. I think you're just a little too fixated on someone having sex with your woman, or guy, which is probably more likely. Might want to see someone about that bud...

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http://www.businessinsider.com/reagan-freedom-fighters-taliban-foreign-policy-2013-2

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>>675448975
ligit question anon: What country do you call home?

>>675447836
As someone who let's sandpeople rape and pillage my home no, not at all

Fixed that for you

>>675448815
Welcome to the entirety of 4chan

>>675449162
You have a degree? I have years of postdoctoral work, in fact, I'm a tenured professor. I just like to slum with neckbeards here.

>>675448972
repub cuck

>>675449015
Not just because your opinions are shit but because your underaged and need to be over 18 to post

>pls dont vote bernie i want the 80K a year im making after taxes
>mfw i only get 30K a year because of bernies communist views
> ;_;

>>675450003
Yeah, me too.

>>675445097
It's not the dust "kicked up" by the nuke. The primary source of particulates would be burning cities, forests, etc. That would be extremely significant in a nuclear war, and air-burst nuclear warheads would burn cities just as well as ground-burst. Of course this is all dependent on how large the nuclear war is. I am assuming worst-case scenarios here, where it's absolutely in the realm of possibility.

>>675450058
You can't even respond with proper English... you're that mad? Sorry, I should really stop upsetting the animals at the zoo and get back to being a semi-educated college student. If all Trump supporters are troglodytes like you, he should keep your votes. I doubt any other candidate would even want them...

>>675450313
patrolling the mojave almost make you wish for a nuclear winter

Are there actually people in here arguing that nuclear war would be a good thing? Fucking retards.

>>675450638
we all get free tans, whats not to like

>>675448668
I'm not poor so quite frankly I couldn't care less. Who cares what someone else has? Are you jealous?

>>675449643
Those are all domestic policies you dumb faggot. Literally none of those have anything to do with any foreign country. How the fuck is not letting the dregs of Mexican society freely come and go into the US as they please without documentation "policing the world"?

>>675448668
Who the fuck cares? Breaking news: rich people are rich, better become the USSR!

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>>675450293
This message brought to you by Trump. A write in vote for the bern is one vote closer for Trump.

>>675449483
Well climate change has a severe lack of evidence as a theory.

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>>675451044
no not really dude. I was a sceptic for several years but most people now accept that shit is changing drastically. I wont argue, just open your mind and read everything thats out there. Its pretty clear. Glaciers on Kilimanjaro and in the Andies are almost gone, polar ice gone, butterflies in alaska etc...

>>675448446
As opposed to voting for sanders so you can tell everyone how educated you are as you hand them their French fries.

>>675451430
Not climate change itself, obviously the earth is warming, but it is highly exaggerated and we have little to no effect on it.

>>675451566
it was renamed climate change to imply that its our fault.
Its the new "original sin" in the religion of liberalism.

It was renamed "climate-change", because retarded republicans walked into Congress with snowballs to prove that "global warming" was obviously fake. Scientists realized that the average conservative was too stupid to understand what "global warming" ACTUALLY MEANT.... So the wording was changed to try to simplify it for their feeble Wall-Mart brains.

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>>675443643
Anything is better then this monstrosity

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>>675451843
Whatever the tree huggers are whining about, fuck em. The point is, its warming faster than we have any record of, and carbon emissions (burning forest in indonesia & south america and coal in china & india and internal combustion from fossle fuels) are just not good for anyone. I am a libertarian but I love to hunt fish and camp and I get pissed off when my fellow free market guys say there is no problem. There are huge problems!

>>675452738
Socialism in US is conservative in Europe. And we have here 1/6 of US homicide. 3% prisoner of US. People under 50% median income 8% less.

Trumpers literally vote for dictatorship by Nazi leader

>>675448975
jesus, u'r'stupid!

>>675452998
And 95% white, homogenous, happy populations with no inner cities full of gangs slaughtering each other. Apples and oranges.

>>675453107
Every country in the whole world has less prisoner than US. Even north korea, China, African countries. It's the US culture of violence and the bad social infrastructure and not an ethnicity. Africa full of niggers and Gangs and still less prisoner. 'Land of the free' is Land of highest prisoner rate in the world with ~3% of Population (Europe ~0.1%)

>>675449750
>Often erroneously paired with this photo is a Reagan quote, "These gentlemen are the moral equivalent of the founding fathers."
>Reagan was in fact referring to Nicaraguan fighters and another initiative to arm them, this time against the U.S.'s own treaties.

Fucking retard.

>>675443643
AMERICA WILL BE GREAT

TRUMP THE TRIUMPH !

>>675452492
thank you for projecting outreach program

>>675453460
>Every country in the whole world has less prisoner than US
Because they don't have large minority groups that have created a culture of pride in ignorance and violence.
>It's the US culture of violence
This culture of violence doesn't exist outside of cities. The vast majority of America is as peaceful as anywhere in Europe. My state in New England has a lower crime rate than most Scandinavian countries.
>Africa full of niggers and Gangs and still less prisoner.
Because most African countries don't have functioning governments which can properly enforce the law.
>'Land of the free' is Land of highest prisoner rate in the world
Because of our shitty violent cities. And admittedly the completely failed war on drugs.

>>675443977
>make the US and the world a hell of less safe

retarded opinion discarded

ITT: hysterical libcucks

>>675443643
Not really. He's gonna fuck shit up internationally, as well as domestically, and that's what we need. Safety is more of the same stagnation we're accustomed to. It leads nowhere. We need serious reform, and much of the world needs revolution. It's not gonna happen if people feel safe and secure. Shit is gonna have to get bad first, and he's the best bet for that. The passion for destruction is also a creative passion.

>>675447837
you have the freedom not to be stopped from speaking by your goovernment. But not the freedom to shout "fire" in a theatre, or call in bogus bomb threats to a school or concert or wrokplace. You do not have the freedom to incite violence, or racial hatred, or hatred in any form. Nor should you have those freedoms. freedom comes with responsibility - now grow up and act like you really are the result of 13 billion years of evolutionary progress.

>>675454371
You sound like a hostage with a gun to your head. Sorry, cartoons are not inciting racial hatred, if Muslims lose their shit over it than that's their problem for being savages. Also fuck you for trying to narrow the definition of what freedom of speech is. The Constitution does not makes a provision for hurt feelings in the first amendment, that's not how we do things.

>>675447860
but there is a country that has over 70 million that does - the Uk. And another next door called France. And another called Germany. Together nearly 200 million people. and together they are not the same size economy as USA alone. So guess what - if the USA with its multiple states and government organisations and the three times the cost of healthcare that we have in the UK cannot organise it - then you guys are real fucking dumb. Your argument is basically that you cannot organise it? man I am sorry for you.

>>675454712
try shouting "fire" in a theatre - see what the supreme court has ruled on that - constitution is not the final word, and does not contain all and every restriction on the rights therein - learn to law

>>675453812
> because they don't have large minority groups. Sure there are some countries. Best example is swizz where 25% are immigrants

> culture violence
It's more about that you train Kids with weapons and you think war is sth great. US is most aggressive country in whole world. Attacking countries every year.

>>675454725
>three separate countries maintaining their own public health systems is the same as the US giving free healthcare to over 300 million people
Wut

>>675453812
What I want to say is, that US always thinks its best, but from statistics its an 2nd world country

>>675453816
Everyone Voting Trump or Hillary is retarded. Those both candidates staying so deep in shit anyone voting for them has an IQ under 80. anyway US voting System is a joke

>>675455160
What the fuck did you just spew out your whatever, you little loser? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class at Trump University, I’ve been involved in numerous hot bids on NYC real estates, and I have over 300 confirmed deals. I am trained in gorilla undercutting and I’m the top navigator in the entire US centipede forces. You are nothing to me but just another transaction. I will out-compete the fuck out of you with energy the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that crap to me over the Internet? Think again, dummy. As we speak I am contacting my fully-disclosed network of attorneys across the USA and your lawyer is being contacted right now so you better prepare for the lawsuit, liar. The court date that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking broke, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime. I can settle with you in over seven hundred ways, **and I never settle cases!** Not only am I extensively trained in the art of the deal, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the The Trump Organization and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable assets off the face of the continent, you low-energy loser. If only you could have known what unpresidential retribution your little “libelous” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn dummy. I will build walls all around you and you will pay for it. You’re fucking stumped, kiddo.

>>675454725
Germany has over 80 Million people. Together those countries have more than 200 million. And it's not like we have free healthcare. We all pay for it. We help each other. US likes capitalism pure. You can see that because their poverty is double ours (Europe ~8%, US 17%)

>>675455026
three countries, like three states, (you know, different small bits of a larger continent - have you heard of the EU...) between them can all support health care for 200 million people. Yet they do not have as large amount of money as the USA spends on healthcare now, without covering everyone. The US spend three times the amount of money per head as the UK - with no visible benefit in health care terms. You could fund universal health care for what you already spend - because a hell of a lot of that money goes into insurance and health care provider company shareholder's pockets. Two thirds of the money you pend on health care is pocketed by admin and shareholders, in the most inefficient health care system in the world, which fails to cover a large proportio of the population at all, and does not provide basic health care for almost half of the population.

The monry is there - the organisational skills are there - you just have to get it back off the billionaires that are taking it out of the system year after year and letting americanss die because bought Republicans want a "free" market.

>>675452998
is that EU thing still holding it together? I figured you faggots would be split apart by now.

>>675454930
80% of Switzerland's foreign residents are Europeans.
>US is most aggressive country in whole world. Attacking countries every year.
That is why I'm voting Trump, he is a non-interventionist and was against the Iraq War and our recent interference with Arab regimes from the start. Hillary Clinton was directly responsible for both of those things and yet everybody thinks Trump is somehow going to start WWIII.

>>675455046
There are poor shitty and dangerous areas and affluent well-educated areas. I'm not going to say all of the US is better than anything, but where I'm from there is a high degree of personal freedom, safety, low cost of living, and a friendly sense of community. I don't consider it my problem if people are shooting each other in downtown Chicago or if people choose to think Jesus lived at the same time as Dinosaurs in Mississippi because it's practically another world to me.

>>675455522
They aren't funding their healthcare systems all together, they are funding them separately, on their own. Maybe if individual US states had their own healthcare systems it would work, I have no idea why more people aren't suggesting it, actually.

I also like Trump's plan of allowing private healthcare providers to compete over state lines, it would drive down prices hugely.

>>675455522
For the price of an Operation in US you can fly first class to Spain, get operated, do 1 year holiday in Spain and fly back first class and still have enough money for an car

>>675455572
I'm just waiting for ISIS going to target your country.... Oh no wait hell, why would they attack the country which is giving them weapons and supporting terrorists

>>675454371
No, you are free to do all that shit too. Freedom /= lack of consequence. Go ahead, tell your boss he's a cup guzzling faggot. Tell your wife/if that you'd much rather fuck anyone else. And then drive through bigger town, flying a rebel flag and screaming racial slurs. Just don't be surprised if there are some negative consequences.

Silence is a virtue, and you should learn how and when to use it for your own protection. This is where people utterly fail. They think they can flap their jaws and people won't react. They should know better, because they react themselves to shit people say that they don't like. They mistakenly believe themselves to be special, and that's something no one fucking is.

>>675443643
you stupid fucks, you already had Bush now you want an encore? that's desperation, his polls

>>675455840
That's a bit unfair. People get waitlisted a lot in countries with public health and some people choose to buy private insurance instead because it can be so slow. People sometimes even fly to the US for that reason. I know somebody who is Austrian that got waitlisted for so long for a surgery for a degenerative leg condition that they now have a permanent limp, when it could have been fixed if they did the surgery earlier.

>>675455998
What's going to happen when the UK leaves, then France and Germany say fuck this and leave? At least we can hold a Union together fag.

>>675456143
Trump has nothing in common with Bush. He's actually a huge critic of him and was a Democrat for the entire Bush administration because of it. but stay ignorant.

>>675456192
A union of around 30 countries with unique histories, cultures, languages, religions, and customs is really not the same thing as the union between Wisconsin and Ohio, sorry.

>>675454725
Organize it. Pay for it. Find enough doctors. Etc..

I think you're full of shit if you're claiming that the UK doesn't have issues with health care. Also, the United States is ONE country. Not fucking 5. So your comparison fails there too.

>>675448668
I've got not problems with that.

>>675450048
Well, I don't have any comeback from that. You win.

>>675449428
Are you this much of a faggot that it bothers you?

>>675449731
Can't even get on my level.
Pitiful.

>>675455784
> I'm well educated
> I'm voting Trump
Mfw?

> freedom in US
Have you ever looked at all your laws? NDAA, Patriot Act, ... ? In your country it's allowed to spy everyone, to kidnap everyone and torture them ... All without any need of an lawyer as long as they Label you as Terrorist. And 3% of your Population is in prison and 17% lives in poverty (income 50% under median)

It's more like your country is auch shitty and has problems because your democracy is bought by oligarchs and Warlords. Trump is one of these guys and now you vote even for oligarchism. This is so stupid

>>675456178
I prefer waiting an year instead of paying my life long debts

>>675455522
If Healthcare is a right, then by that virtue housing is a right, clothing is a right, food is a right, etc. Because I could make a solid argument that my health is directly related to these items. Now, if that much is true, then why bother with having an economy at all? Why not just make people work where they fit best and give everyone equal housing, clothing, food, etc.

>>675456387
You mean Wisconsin and Ohio that were populated by people from more than 30 countries throughout the world with unique histories, cultures, languages, religions, and customs? That Ohio and Wisconsin? If you think USA are a superpower now, wait until the rest of the world starts falling apart and we swoop in to save the day again.

>>675456192
You clearly have no idea of EU politics. Nobody of them leaves because it would be economical and political suicide

>>675456727
"Freedom" ... US is well-known as police state

>>675456635
Nice come back.

>>675457063
The polls in the UK look like they might leave...

>>675456918
This. Either way you're fucked, I'd rather choose the one that doesn't fuck me financially.

>>675457236
I'm sure Amerifags mean freedom in a relative sense. Like the freedom to post stupid shit online.

>>675457236
So let's have more of that.

Honestly, the US is a mess. The EU is a mess too, but at least they finally found a level of socialism that doesn't kill a bunch of people or start world wars. Let's give them credit where credit is due people.

>>675443643
Would you feel safe if you had a nuke aimed towards your face? Because that's trump fam

>>675457514
I'm genuinely curious as to why Europeans come here and complain about a country they don't live in. Can someone give me a legit reason why?

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>>675457049
And now they're all American, because they integrated into the existing American culture. Not the same thing as 30 unique countries banding together.

>>675456727
>>675457236
>The US is a police state
Wow, aren't you both a bunch of edgy fucking teenagers.

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>>675443643
It's not about "feeling" safe.fuck you pussy bitch. I want world war three I'm fucking 26 years old and I'm tired of everyone bitchin that this generation is a sack of entitled shits. They are. So let's fucking thin the goddamn herd. Ww3 for me.

>>675443643
>trump elected
>piss off world leaders
>incites WW3
>drafted into military
>KIA

Not safe at all.

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>>675445674
What data?

>>675458561
Easy to say for the guy who would not be drafted and is most certainly not in the military.

>>675443643
fucking trump/10 bait
the greatest and best bait ive ever met
we're great friends in fact, great bait, really great bait
i also negotiated the best deal for this bait, the best deal you see these bait makers now make terrible, awful deal for their bait, i make the best

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>>675449483
redneck secret police cant get me
they'll have to take my cp from my cold dead hands

>>675445966
No one will be deported.
>>675446621
>current year
>being this stupid

>>675452492
Citation needed. Such a stunt must surely be on video.

>>675461778
Can't you fucking google?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E0a_60PMR8

>>675457250
It was serious. Only a little crybaby would let that bother him.

>>675462273
You're kidding right?

>>675448359 Something about this post made me stop and think while reading it. No, not because it was insightful but because it seems like such a canned reaction in such an odd way to truly think you must be working for trump's campaign. Maybe not, but I really don't think anyone would make such a response were it genuine.

>>675462769
This seems to be a popular over reaction.
Like I said I'm still waiting for the nuclear war that Reagan was suppose to start.
Get it?

>>675443643
I would be terrified because I use my brain and I can smell fascism a mile away.

>>675463268 No, I don't.

>>675443862
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/07/donald-trump-loves-muslims-if-they-re-rich.html

>>675456969
I did not say healthcare is a right. If you bother to look at any economic analysis, non profit healthcare by the state costs less in lost wages, loss of days from ill health, loss of health of useful workers who pay taxes and support families, results in fewer long term ill health issues and dependents on welfare, and increases over all production and efficiency in the economy. It saves money, and makes for a more content and equal society which is a positive benefit to everyone - lower crime rates, and all. It does not have to be a right - it is a public good. Paid for by the pblic that benefits from it. (or to put it another way - good roads lead to better economys, and greater public good - which is why we pay for roads - why not health care?)

Really, every other civilised nation in the world has public health care - why is the US so retarded about this?

>>675456413
Ok, so you are saying that the US could not organise it - so your country sucks at organisisng things, sorry for you. Couldn't pay for it? despite the fact that it already spends more than it needs on health care, and would save money by having a single provider with a low premium, instead of thousads of providers and insurance companies all taking their cut before anyone get to a hospital - no just wrong kid
find enough doctors - there are enough doctors in the US. What you think they will all just leave overnight? also, train more if you need them. No [roblem in hiring in trained doctors from ex US if there was a shortage - but there isn't.

Full of shit? yes, sir, you certainly are.

>>675456083
no, really, if you shout "fire" in a theatre you will be locked up. You have the freedom to do it, but in the same way you have the freedom to do anything it is still illegal, and not protected under the constitution.

>>675465586
>healthcare is public good.
literally not true

>>675465586
lots of wonderful claims there but no actual evidence or logic to back them up

>>675455784
>They aren't funding their healthcare systems all together, they are funding them separately, on their own. Maybe if individual US states had their own healthcare systems it would work, I have no idea why more people aren't suggesting it, actually.

No, you miss the point - I was pointing out that there are very large healthcare systems, tens of millions of people, and just three of them serve 200 million people - but there is no reason why it could not be one system (and indeed they are increasingly co-ordinted - when in France the UK pays for my treatment) It does not matter if it is done at state level or federally - it is one system, with a single funding source, giving care free at the point of need - simples. It will cost the same (less if a single system than having admin driven by every state with layers of management and layers of state specific paperwork and interstate communications issues)

>>675466560
>>675466619
Sorry, but while it is a private good - for the individual - it is literally, a public good - lower rates of communicable disease, lower rates of homelessness, antisocial behaviour, and criminality, and better social cohesion and more productive workforce. as for evidence - see Scandanavia, UK, Germany, France, and compare these rates to US - as for logic, please show any logical flaws or fallacies in my reasoning. (in other words - there is lots of evidence, but you have not shown any or made any logical point to counter me, other than claiming, falsely, that I am wrong - way to argue, kid)

>>675467075
do you know what the definition of a public good actually is?

>>675467075
>please show any logical flaws or fallacies in my reasoning
thinking that correlation proves causation

>>675450003
I have laser beam eyes and a chin made of dynamite.

I also like to hang with these losers.

>>675466619
>lots of wonderful claims there but no actual evidence or logic to back them up

One claim here, but no actual evidence or logic to back it up.

>>675443977
Agreed. Trump will end up pushing more people to extremists.

>>675467289
that's because it's self-evident. He made wonderful claims about the benefits of socialized medicine but gave no evidence to back up his assertions or any theoretical arguments as to why they were true.

>>675467188
a public good is one that benefits the public, community or group outside of its private benefits by reason og being non excludable - . So clean air, good transport network, etc - while we may chan=rge for some service (toll roads etc) the good reaped by the public from even these charged for services extends beyond the individual who pays for and directly benefits from it, to a wider non excludable communal set of beneficiaries. Like fireworks shows in your back garden, If other people who see it happen to like fireworks. they may also be a public nusance if the neighbors hate the noise. Helathcare has benefits to the community, not just the individual - it is a public good to have the mentally ill treated and not roaming the streets seeking election to high office (see Trump and Bernie as prime examples)

>>675468009
>a public good is one that benefits the public
wrong
you don't know the definition of a public good.
Keep trying. lrn2econ

>>675467243
>thinking that correlation proves causation
I don't - but I do believe that smoking causes cancer - that is not illogical, except in Logic 101 - if you want to be narrow about it, I will give you that one. But since we can see from studies in countries that have introduced free health care for drug addicts that drug addiction, and related crime, is reduced - hey thats just a correlation, it isn't causation, so it does not prove anything, durrr - yeah, you must be right, health care does no public good. And the fact that the same goes for increased productivity and reduction of days lost in labour when universal health care is provided - hey, its just correlated, no need to pay those so called facts any attention. Really, if you have done any research on this at all you would see that I am right about this stuff, and that the US system is not only deeply immoral, inefficient and barbaric, but also really bad for the economy and the society as a whole. it makes no sense..

>>675451563
That's what these libtards don't understand. All these "free universities" would be filled with 95% blacks and illegals and have the absolute worst professors available. A degree from one of these places would be absolutely worthless.

>>675468690
>I've done research
right
sure you have cupcake.

>>675443643
I don't feel unsafe right now.

>>675468690
the US economy is by far the most productive in the world so I don't know what you're blathering about.

>>675452998
>Trumpers literally vote for dictatorship by Nazi leader

Confirmed for hysterical, ignorant retard.

>>675455160
Uh huh, you enjoy your muslim murderers now little guy....

>>675452998
>People under 50% median income 8% less
that's...not mathematically possible

>>675468221
ok, economists have a jargon version that involves non-excludability and rivalry - but, and this is important - that is not the only use of the term "Public Good" it is also used in politics, social theory, general discussion and other domains of discourse. it is not merely a term in technical economics. so while you are in a limited and blinkered way (like all economists who think their theories actually mean anything when they actually have no fucking clue about how the world works - rational economic man ha) correct, so I am, in a wider, natural, English speaking way. Which you understood, so what the fuck is your problem here?

>>675468753
yeah, Like Cambridge and Oxford are...

>>675469109
>I am proudly ignorant and in denial about economic theories
>I belong to the party of sicence

>>675468827
the wonderful thing about this place is its anonymity. Which is why I come here, when I have free time from my university lecturing job - troll harder, cupcake.

>>675444223
>accidentally'ing a global nuclear war.
You more of an idiot than he is, and that's saying something.

Even if trump launched nukes, who cares?! We would survive it anyway.

>>675469306
Keep acting like your superior you fucking dumb pile of Mongol shit.

>>675469318
ah you live in an academic bubble. that would explain your ignorance that you mistake for knowledge.

>>675469204
Oh, so Bernie is going to allow all Americans free access to foreign universities as well? Cool, you enjoy hosting all of our blacks and illegals, you'll love them....

Oh wait, you're being willfully ignorant and obtuse because you have no real argument and suck cocks....

>>675468924
no it isn't, and the US health care system is one of the least efficient in the world. It costs three to thirty times as much for every basic proceedure in the US as it does in other advanced countries - and not because of differential wages - it is soley because of excessive profiteering by insurance and hospital providers, and unregulated drug company costs. $500 for two asprin? yeah, very cost effective and efficient

>>675469366
Lmao USA is the first country to go if that happens

>>675469360
A nuclear war is actually most likely to start by accident, but that's true whether Trump is president or not.
>>675469472
I'm not Mongolian but if you're implying that's a bad thing if I were, well that seems pretty racist to me.

>>675469578
>unregulated drug company costs.
>unregulated
hahhahahahhahahahahahahhaahahhahahhaah

>>675469578
sadly very little of what you say is accurate.

>>675469578
That must be why rich Europeans come here for treatment

>>675469306
I studied economics at Nottingham University in the 1990's - before becoming a health care economist, and then taking a couple of other degrees, including my PhD in health care ethics. So I do know just how much economic theory does not reflect real world events. It has been taken over by Hayek and his ilk, voodoo economics as Bush Snr termed it. It has gone into weird math theory to prove that unreal money generated by paperless transactions can actually be equivalent to real value generated from human labour and materials that are scarce - it has strayed far from reality and let us down - the crash of 2008 was only a foretaste of the crash to come when all the banks go bust - but that is beside the point.

>>675469612
So fucking what? Not enough bikes in the world can take out the USA. We are a huge country!