>>674939679
I took all the AP history exams I could take in high school, and now I'm in college for stem.

>>674939679
I self taught myself on WW2 since schools just go over the fucking holocaust for 2 weeks

So you regurgitate the myths created wealthy men and the state to justify the current social order, how's it going?

>>674940098
200,000 pounds a year.
Pretty good.

It's all just old news

>>674940530
Well Im actually interested in history but I never imagined it payed well, what do you do?

yeah, but more interested in pure sociology. people unaffected by time and place. who we are by default.

>>674940530
That's the quantity of bullshit you're dropping on this thread.

Everyone on the internet makes a six-figure salary. Go brag to someone who believes you.

>>674939679
Very much, but I know mostly about medieval and renaissance English history and about Ancient Rome.

>>674940938
That is just nonsense.

>>674939679
i'm a vegan

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my understanding of history is that there were various knights in it. i believe they fought against tyranny and darkness. correct me if i'm wrong.

>>674940807
I felt this way until I started reading history books for fun and realize that knowing about the past actually prepares you to have a serious and objective view of the present, assuming you read a variety of historical accounts rather than just standard propoganda texts. You can even compare events of the past to those of the present or watch patterns in history. I think a good understanding of history prepares one to understand the current state of things.

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>ITT: People who know a lot of trivia about one thing and can't contextualize or analyze global trends properly
This is what you'll get from a "history" thread on the internet.

I'm pretty interested in anything war-related. Civil War, WWI, WWII, Cold War, etc.

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>>674940096
>Be in class
>Get map of Europe
>"Color the axis red and the allies blue
>Almost everyone in the class doesn't know what countries are which let alone where they are
>mfw

>>674941391
I agree. History is more of a hobby. History in the bologna tower of academia. All the other garbage that didn't fit into a field.

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>>674941053

>>674939679
I like to read history books, lately been reading about persian, hindu, greek, chi'ite history, and just finished alexander the great's biography.

What do you reccomend i read next? I love me some ancient war stories.

>>674941519
sounds like murrica

>>674941362
I agree. Studying a bit about the Roman Republic with its two parties, the Optimates (rich patrician senators who defended the prerogatives of a plutocratic oligarchy) and the Populares (rich patrician demagogues who enriched themselves and became extremely powerful by seemingly fighting for the plebs) made today's politics make perfect sense.
>>674941391
shut up, faggot

history...isn't that where ninjas were?

>>674941842
Nah, that's anime, mane.

>>674941692
Carthage Must Be Destroyed is what I'm reading. Punic wars.

>>674941391
Yup, which is why /his/ is fucking horrible.

Just /pol/ with dates.


Taking my masters in Northern europes early modern history right now. A year to go. It's fun when people say they are interested in history, but most of the time it means that they thought kingdom of heaven was a cool movie. Or band of brothers.

>>674942052
Yeah, pretty much every boy/man likes world war II.

4chan delenda est.

>>674940920
I'm a museum curator.

>>674939679
>Anyone else with an interest in history?

Yes.

>>674942174
Sure,
I mean I sort of do too, but it is not my main interest at all. Do have a thing for tanks from the second world war though.

>>674942396
Tanks are pretty fucking cool in general. Aircraft, too. I really like ships and U-boats.

>>674942322
Do you hate the kids?

>>674942052
I wish I knew anything about Northern Europe. It seems whenever we hit Early Modern, it's all Spain and Portugal. But after reading a little about society in Northern Europe at the time, it sounds infinitely more interesting than the standard Age of Exploration.
Just completed a course on modern Indian history. Now THAT'S some interesting shit. The Mughals are easily my favorite empire.

>>674942741
One time, a nigger was playing around on the glass case containing some German medals, he started bashing it with his fists.

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>>674942542
Hah, yeah they are.
Pic on topic, snatched it on /his/ before I lost faith in the board all together. Direct quote that shows why /his/ is terrible.

>>674941832
What sources would you recommend on the Roman Republic and its two parties? Ive been more into enlightment era to the present.

What turned me off to history in university was the lame bias of all the instructors/professors. They'd always seem to gloss over the interesting stuff and focus on lame faggotry. In my first survey American history it was all about the indians and slavery. He didn't even really talk about the west or the civil war. In Vietnam class it was the same thing. He spent half the semester just setting the war up, talking about the Vietnamese struggle. I just wanted to talk about Rolling Thunder and what it was like to be in a firefight and shit.

>>674942867
Oh yeah, lots of Spain and Portugal in general.
But Scandinavia, Russia and the like are totes interesting places. Sweden went from being a minor part of a personal union into THE power in the baltic sea untiil the end of the great northern war. (Oh yeah, I am a Swede by the way)

>>674942985
Holy fuck. Triggered.

>>674943312
Then be a military historian.
I was a archaeologist for a while before setting up my own museum in my home town, about the Second World War

>>674943085
What the fuck.

>>674943312
>be in a firefight and shit.

Then history isn't the topic for you, clearly. History isn't history based of off your personal interests, faggot.

>>674943491
I think that is what blows from the American side of history. Our country if fucking boring. UK and Europe of thousands of years of sick history. I'd want to deal with WWII and stuff like that, but there are plenty of Europeans who live over there already doing it.

It can be fun, I used to be so obsessed that I eventually began to learn Latin where I came to the point of being able to read literature from Cicero and Catullus.

The Napoleonic wars and Imperialism are the best eras imo.

>>674943661
I'm British.

>>674943527
That is just it. I'd just fucking walk out of the program if I was stuck doing graduate research on nig nog shit.

>>>/his/

>>674943832
I know.

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>>674939679
Its AN historian. English like a boss!

>>674943108
Just finished a book by Anthony Everitt on the republic... lemme grab title
The Rise of Rome
Very readable. His biography of Augustus is also top notch.
I'm reading Barry Strauss' bio of Julius Caesar now, and it's also a good read.

>>674940096
>Implying the Holocaust happened

Stupid goy.

>>674943881
depend on your accent

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Cuntributing
fap to the gmilfs!

>>674944042
I wrote a book about German Uniforms and Equipment from 1914-1945

>>674943312
So you want the standard American propoganda version of history. The way in which history is told will always be subject to some bias as details are highlighted and others dismissed. Focusing on the struggles of American soldiers in Vietnam is to side with the state that commited the crime.

When describing world war 2, do we discuss the strength and valor of Fascist armies and honor their sacrifices or do we discuss their crimes and atrocities?

The fact is that the American perspective is a narrow sliver of the truth, especially when aggressors rarely comdemn or objectively recount their crimes.

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studied the vietnam war in college

https://youtu.be/-Sw_lgX1q2w

>>674943312
Because the actual fighting of wars isn't important in history. What's important is cause and effect.
The natives of America is probably the largest example of mass genocide or human extinction.
The Civil War wasn't important so much as it was Reconstruction and the dominance of the Republican party following the war.
Vietnam War was more important for the Vietnamese than it was for the U.S., obviously.
>>674943386
Fuck, I wasn't even thinking of Russia. Russia's like the bastard child of Europe and Asia.
I NEED to learn about Sweden + Scandinavia. My knowledge of your history goes to about WWII, and that's it.

>>674943312
A lot of history has been ruined by 1) social historians, who are more interested in the fluctuations of wheat prices than in great figures, and 2) SJWs, who want to make every story about the oppressed - meaning that they project today's obsessions with homosex, gender and race onto the past and spoil what's interesting about it.

>>674944174
There is enough SJW's to cover the rest.

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This is a Vendel-era helmet from Sweden,
made up of decorated bronze plates and chainmail.

Vendel is the Swedish term for the period 550-800 CE. It's where most "viking" helmets come from, since there is only one viking-age helmet that's ever been found. They most likely looked something like this, but made of iron.

>>674944162
so it was a story about uniforms and equipment?

>>674939679
NS Germany was the pinnacle of human civilization.
God bless those heroes, may they live forever in peace in with the Lord.

>>674939679
History was a very close second favorite of mine in high school. Had very real and honest history teachers, that made it really interesting.

>>674941273
I vape

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Also from the Vendel-era, here is the hilt of a sword, decorated with among other things, red garnets and gilded bronze.

Allthough I'm mostly a historian of ww2, I do occasionally research and find relics from all kinds of eras, a couple of years ago I went to Montana to a search to find dinosaur bones with a group (this wasn't a job) we actually found a Tyrannosaur! (Well, at least it's skull, rib cage and shoulders)

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>>674944092
old school dictates an historian.

>>674939679
I like the picture op

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>>674944121

History is probably the only field of study I enjoy but I am worried that I if I do major in it I'll just end up with a shit job. What are the possible well paying jobs I can get in this field?

did Hitler do good things??

>>674944984
Public history or academia are about it.

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>>674944486
Not a story, an infomation book for reenactors/collectors.

>>674944984
most states require an archaeological anthropologist to be either on call or on site during any construction in a previously untouched site or depth

>>674944340
Telling history by holding States and Nations to the same standards is a fair act. You can keep your eyes glued to Rambo and pretend that America is a special snowflake. If you want bias, take a look at the inconsistent criticisms applied by Nations to similar situations. You can side with the aggressors and criminals every time, you can side with your own State every time, like a good little lapdog or you can side with the victims of criminal state action every time. Your choice.

>>674939679
yessir. i love french history and literature to death, but i refuse to take courses on those because i value having a career fresh out of school. however, since my granddad was in WW2, 'nam, and korea, my dad tells me a lot of his war stories and likes to lecture me on those periods of strife. big fan of history.

>>674943661
america probably does have some sick ass history from the crazy shit native americans probably did but they didnt record history so its up to your imagination to figure it out :)

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She cheated on me for the past few years. Her name is Javiela. She is a slut. She liked getting in the ass while her friend was watching. Argh I am so pissed. Today I will be releasing all her videos (Including ass fuck) https://www.dropbox.com/s/m08exr1fgdz1dgx/RELEASE.zip?dl=1 Will be removed in a few mintues. Enjoy /b/ 6

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>>674945023
small penis and into poopie but did some great things

>>674944294
>what's interesting about it
What YOU think is interesting about it.

>great figures

What do you mean by this exactly? Great figures as in great people or great figures as in great numbers? If it is the former, I thoroughly disagree that history has been "ruined" by these people. Also the whole point you made about "muh SJWs" is silly,
studying history demands a solid theoretical framework, and what is modern is what is commonly used. This has always been changing, it gives the field much more accuracy and leads to interesting discoveries.

Tell me, are you an historian?

>>674944882
>>674943881
As an English major, and teacher, I will let you know; only people with mental retardation say an historian. Please, stop perpetuating bullshit that came about in the last ten years, in an attempt to seem intelligent.

>>674941519
At which stage of the war?

>>674945337
>what is archeology
Gee anon I don't know how we'll ever know what people without written language did.

>>674939679
yeah i love it op. too bad no one listens to anyone that knows anything about it unless its for a class.

>>674940098
>your $0.50 has been deposited, thank you for shilling

Physics major/history minor

History of science and technology is the only worthwhile field of study. All that's left is political autistic shit fits and inane war bullshit for the COD children

>>674945115
ah, so you compiled a book on the subject
that's when you use stuff you didn't actually create glue it together and stick your name on it
like a coffee table book full of pictures of paintings

>>674945304
Stop projecting all of this garbage onto me. I don't buy your morality/ethics trip for one second. Life isn't fucking sacred, being an aggressor doesn't make you a 'criminal.' The law isn't sacred and like all social constructs it changes over time. I don't give a fuck about made up shit like 'justice', 'equality,' and so on. Take your SJW guilt trip and fuck off back to passive observer cuckdom with all of the other losers who cast stones their whole lives at the agents of action. Just because you've never done any worthy of judgement for hundreds of years to pass doesn't mean shit. Nature has it owns laws and they are more concrete than the idle fancies of man.

>>674945774
Shhhh.

>>674945304
>side with the victims
kill yourself

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>>674945466
umm, my father who has a doctorate in english obtained in 1970, says AN historian.

My professors in classic lit and writing both insisted on AN historian.

That was a lot longer than ten years ago.

So is it half an hour or a hour?
Please give an honest answer.

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>>674945836
Not really.
Collecting Militaria is very complicated, because if your a stitch Nazi like me and needs to get every detail right on my impression, you need to dive deep into history, deeper than Wikipedia or history books, into german records and such.
In a way, the author has to do his part.

>>674939679
>
fapping to WW2 pics doenst make you a historian.

I really like history. It's my favorite subject.

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>>674946425
Your right.
It takes research, revision, good grades, and a education in university.

>>674945438
All that vapid discourse just bores me.
Reading about Sulla and Marius and the civil war between the plebs and the patricians is interesting. Reading about fluctuations in the the price of Egyptian wheat is not. Lease interesting is ignoring the great figures to focus on the hapless slaves who swept the floor.
It is not silly at all to grieve at the way SJWs have made their obsessions the only stories that ever get told. What was it like to be a sodomite in the Jacobean era? What was the role of viking women? Not in addition to the bigger stories, but as a substitute.

>>674944882
Admittedly an historian sounds much better. It depends if you'r a letter or spirit kind of guy

>>674946606
I have a bachelors and I am currently doing my masters, still don't feel comfortable calling myself an historian.

>>674939679
I feel like reading history books feels so complete without studying the literature of the time period

>>674946033
Spoken like a robot of the dominant state. You have a valid opinion, however the more civilized among us prefer to maintain a consistent criticism of all powers and to remain critical even of the institutions we exist in. You have obviously chosen to adopt the perspective of your rulers, however unlike them you may be. It is fair enough but not something I envy. Every race, religion and creed has deserved some kind of judgement at many points throughout history, though I find your visceral reaction to the criticisms of your masters cute.

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>>674946905
When you are older and you meet doe eyed co-eds in a pub and you have a beard and sportcoat (maybe even with suede elbows) you will refer to yourself as an historian.

>>674947277
So says the cockstain adhering to their systems of law and ethics. Go ahead, just dive headlong in frothing ad hominem, ignore the point I was trying to make. I don't care.

>>674947077
>>674947277

dual dub sebens!

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>>674945304
>America is a special snowflake.
kek

>>674946672
>Egyptian wheat is not.
Again, this is what you think. Its just an opinion.
I find chinese history uninteresting, doesn't mean it isn't a worthwhile topic to study.

>the only stories that ever get told
Well this is simply not even a little true. Are you studying at a university where this is the case? I'm not.
Also almost all of history up until like the 80s focused on "great men". Which I think is dumb at some point, you shouldn't give a single individual too much power, it makes the history less objective.

Instead of looking at the day to day life of Charles XII of Sweden, portraying him as a heroic demigod, look at the reforms that took place to give the king more power, look at the nobility losing power to a new class of bureaucrats.

I really don't get why you care so much about other peoples scholarship. I m homosexuals in the Jacobite era say alot about the past society as a whole? What WAS the role of viking women? Did they have one? If someone finds this out, surely this is a good thing. Every single gap should be filled. I mean, its knowledge that can be used by others. It doesn't have to be interesting.

If someone asks a question, should we be satisfied in saying: "We don't know"?
Of course not, which is why I want to be an historian.

>>674939679
Hittler did nothing wrong.

>>674948196
I disagree, we better conduct a comparative study of what constitutes "wrong", have it peer-reviewed and then lets reconvene.

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>>674948196
well forcing his niece to shit on a glass table with him watching underneath isnt necessarily wrong, just fucked up.

>>674948133
> I m homosexuals in the Jacobite era say alot

Fuck that sentence was a trainwreck.
Was meant to say:
"I mean doesn't the treatment of homosexuals in the bla bla bla"

>>674948564
Link to that please?

>>674945337
The Red Record of the Lenni Lenape, a written record stretching back over 5000 years of north american history

>>674939679

Also an historian. Medieval. You?

>>674947714
You hardly made a point. Your understanding of history will always be subject to moral bias by the decisions of those who tell the stories, by the details they emphasize or ignore. You may not care about "laws" but you cant possibly know the totality of any event. What you learn will have already been filtered by the source you choose when they highlight and emphasize certain points and undermine others. You can pretend to want truth as objectively as possible but you will never get that. You have already obviously chosen to accept the perspective and framework of the rulers and masters of our time. "SJW" is simply a name invented by servants of power to insult disseting opinions and undermine criticisms of their actions. Even to insult those who refuse to gloss and celebrate their myths.

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>>674948697
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/283385/adolf-hitler-poop-fetish-rumor/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3479951/Adolf-Hitler-indulged-sickening-sexual-fetishes-forced-niece-act-fantasies-according-claims-intelligence-report.html

Lern to google and find much more

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This is napoleons death mask.

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>>674948994

I'm interested in World War II and mainly history pre-1000AD

>>674944247
"the fighting of wars isn't important"

Of course it is fool…obvsiouly what comes after a war is important, but who wins and loses, and how they ended up a victor or not is extrememly important. not to mention the technological innovation that is driven by conflict...