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ITT: Morality towards the "homeless"

>be me
>european male
>a partiot
>have nothing against people that respect my nation
>come across a "homeless" fuckface
>propose him a deal
>I'll give them 20€ IF they can recite or sing our countries national anthem
>he doesn't react, despite me holding the 20€ in front of them
>I feel judged by some people around

Facts about this "homeless" they are usually just pretending to be homeless and try to look fragile and shit. They most likely aren't even residents in my country, they are mostly some sort of gypsies or some other worm nation.

/B/ is it morally acceptable what I am doing?
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>>674909968
How many people know the national anthem of their country anyway?
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>>674910135
Most?
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>>674909968
Patriotism is bad. It's not acceptable, no

>>674910253
False assumption
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i don't have much sympathy for the homeless. most - not all, of the time they have gotten themselves into that situation through drugs and/or alcohol and expect everyone else to help them get out

i've not been homeless but i had a pretty serious coke addiction, wasn't anybody's responsibility but my own to quit
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>>674910253
Hahahahahahaha, have you ever seen a football game?
It's hardly more than the first verse.
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>>674910135
Well where I am from, the anthem is quite easy to remember and all real citizens know it.
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>>674909968
>/B/
Ooohhhh hi there FBI/CIA/NSA!

No It's not! You're bad if you do so! YAY! Bad Bad Bad! (GO ahead and place me in the "no threat" section of the opinion registry)
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>>674910360
Its not about the homeless themselves, because our country helps them in one way or another.
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>>674910499
Consider suicide cunt
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>>674910320
We aren't talking about actual redneck patriotism, just love and huge respect for my country and culture
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>>674910706
Where are you from?
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>>674910253

God save our gracious queen
Long live our gracious queen
Laaa naaa naaa naaa

England victorious
Happy and glorious
Naaa naaa naaa naaaa
God save the queen

*hums the rest*
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>>674910135
i know all of them. dont even know how can someone not know their countries anthem.
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>>674909968
In chicago, they're setting up tents under viaducts. Kids going to parks have to go through their shit like an obstacle course. They're filled with dirty, dangerous scumbags, theres human shit surrounding them.

Meanwhile "Homeless Advocates" hold a shitshow every time the complaints build up and they're asked to pack up and leave. Last year Mumford and Sons had a concert in the park. In the interests of handling the huge glut of people, they moved the homeless out from under the viaducts for an evening. The homlessfags treated it like it was the jews being thrown out of the ghettos in 1936.

Now they're entrenched. Peoples property values are going down, a bunch of dangerous drunk, wigged out derelicts who won't go to shelters because they can't drink or get high have taken over with a bunch of (i hate to say it) liberal lawyers who don't live in the area show up any time anyone tries to move them.

Short of going there in the middle of the night, dousing them with gas and burning them alive, or killing their lawyers, it seems we're stuck.
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>>674911383

True. Fucking degenerates

Unity and justice and freedom
For the German fatherland!
Let us all strive for this purpose
Brotherly with heart and hand!
Unity and justice and freedom
Are the pledge of happiness;
|: Bloom in the glow of this happiness,
Bloom, German fatherland! :|
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>>674910841
Slovenia

Our anthem:
A toast
God's blessing on all nations,
Who long and work for that bright day,
When o'er earth's habitations
No war, no strife shall hold its sway;
Who long to see
That all men free
No more shall foes, but neighbours be.
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>>674911524
yeah, but if germany is so awesome, why are you germany? why aren't you the UK or America or even Canada?

I bet they know those anthems. Those countries have awesome anthems. "O Canadah, my hoem and native land..."
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>>674909968
>>674911463
You both sound like absolutely miserable cunts.
I went to the USA last year, never seen tent villages of homeless people like that before. If you're poor in USA it's your fault and you suffer.
USAmerifats think it's okay to let their own people languish in poverty, outside the sytem and under the heel of the law, while neckbeards fantasise about killing them. You know that shit happens and they are the most vulnerable people around, right?
You're morally bankrupt, they are a standing indictment of you.
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>>674911463
I just ignore them. They pile up next to stops at the loop to get commuters to pay for their cigarettes
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>>674909968
>public humiliation for money
Does this make you feel powerful anon?
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>>674909968
never happend
everybody knows when you approach homeless person you film it and put it on youtube
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>>674911874
No man, the german anthem has a very interesting history behind it. The anthem sings about german countries being bout togather again and its not saying they are better than others.
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>>674912024
They embarrass themselves by being homeless
>inb4 OP
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>>674911524
Lucky we shortened it so much, right?

>>674911874
But if the US is so awesome, why are you American? Why aren't you East German, or French? Those countries have some awesome anthems?
> Risen from ruins
> And facing the future
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>>674910135
Sheeeeeit nigger, in the usa it's rammed down your throat in elementary school, and before every sporting event. I think it's like that in every developed nation. Even if you are a total dumb ass, but watch tv, you can at least hum it.

So, if you can't hum the shit, you either haven't been in the "system" ever, decided to check out of and leech off of society, or not from around here.
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>>674912024
Its not humiliation, I just want to prove that they don't even know the anthem of the country they live in. I don't demand anything wired or abstract. just to recite the anthem to me.
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>>674911891
They're drunks and crazies who can't get their shit together enough to cover rent. Why should everyone else suffer because they can't handle scraping together enough money to cover rent for a fucking studio?

Oh poor them. They can't get by without a drink. Then fine, live on the streets. But make it out of the way. By the train tracks. Somewhere where little kids don't have to play hopscotch trying to get by on a sidewalk covered in human shit because they can't get their life in order.

They're not victims, or the most vulnerable. They're parasites. They're aggressive. They won't wash a dish or stay sober for a day, but they'll fight tooth and nail to stay in the way of people to guilt them out of their money so they can stay high and/or drunk.

Fuck the homeless.
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>>674909968

You can use whatever criteria you want to hand out money, even singing auditions.

I doubt you would have given him the money.
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I don't understand patriots.

What makes your country any better than another one? I live in Australia. I think its a pretty good country. But I don't think its any better than say Canada.

Americans in particular get pretty hung up over serving their country, and how their country is the best and I just don't understand.

What is it that people get so passionate over? In the end its just a hunk of land, often with arbitrary boundaries inhabited by people that identify as a single group despite never having met the majority of the others.
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>>674912291
I'm canadian.
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>>674912546
OP here: I used the wrong term. I just love my country and respect it. I don't find it any better than other countries.
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>>674912605
Replace American with Canadian in my post then.
Although I think the Canadian anthem is also more about peacefully living together, than it is about supremacy, so good for you.
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>>674912491
/thread
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>>674911787

Sem bral OP....in si tko mislm...to bi pa zihr kak Slovenc lahko pisal....

...in evo.

Drgač se pa strinjam s tvojim pogledom.
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>>674910135

/thread
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>>674912525
I did gave a man the money I promised. And I always keep my word.
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>>674912011
Theres the one homeless woman who stays by the madison bridge next to the CME building. I caught a look at her face once. She wasn't terrible. Not great but I gave a thought to inviting her back to my place to work out a bang maid proposition. But she's probably all full of herpies and aids.

Still, if she was clean, she could be a top notch party favor.
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>>674912906
Haha. kul. Sej to govorim o tistih mafijcih ki posiljajo neke romunkinje na cesto da te prosijo za denar. Ženske se pa kr v marcedezu prfurajo ... Pravemu brezdomcu bi zmeraj brezpogojno pomagal.
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>>674909968

Wow, it's hard enough being homeless. Especially when cunts like you come up to them.
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>>674911524

Sorry to tell you this, but Germany has been taken over by turks. Why do you think Germany is literally the only country that wants to force Turkey to enter EU? How the hell does Turkey even belong to EU? Not by geographical or moral standards. All it will bring is even more beggers.

Also, begging should be illegal in any socialist country, which is basicaly every western country in the world (yes, including Amerifatlandia).
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>Walking to walmart
>See homeless disabled Vietnam vet
>God bless his soul, the government really screwed Vietnam vets
>hold on a sec
>Have $20
>Ask to see his stump of a leg and military ID for the money
>He produced neither
>Continue on
>See him texting on a phone few days later

Homeless my ass, its a profession now days.
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>>674913159

Zato so pa na norveškem prepovedal beračenje. Ker ni smiselno.

>>674913182

This.
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>>674913161
Holy shit. Do you even see the "quotations?" Did you even read the whole post? Im not talking about actual homeless.....
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>>674909968
As long as you're not a piece of shit and actually contributes to society, would care less what race you are. It depends op in my opinion , some are just useless fucks and some got very unlucky with life. I always think of the latter.
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>>674912708
Even going that far though I don't understand.
Why does the homeless guy deserve your $20 any more if he was a real citizen? Not that your reasons bother me, I just don't understand them.

I know Australian born citizens that are the scum of the earth, and I know a pair of Asians who are more than likely here illegally that barely speak a word of English but work hard as fuck to make money for their kids. I'm sure they don't give a fuck about Australia other than the fact that its better than where they came from.
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>>674913182
I think begging is indeed illegal in most European countries, but we usually are not on top of enforcing it.

Also, nice
> Germany is getting raped
meme
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>>674909968
no, it is not moral, you sociopath
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>>674910135
We used to sing it in my school when I was a kid. Today it's seen as racist by some to know it
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>>674910499
Holy shit, how important do you think you are?
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>>674909968
I have been homeless by myself, but it's correct, most of them
Good that I had a shitty laptop and started some serious internet fraud business then
I went into a hotel from the street, from one day to another
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>>674913577
So you were homeless and are a shitty person?
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>>674913328
>>674913458
Because it makes me sick seeing this fake professional homeless that abuse our kind-heartedness. Real homeless as stated before, get support from the community. So ITT we are talking about fake homeless.
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>>674913657
hahah
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>>674909968
but of course you are moral retard, you are engaging another human being with the intention to degrade him. you are what is wrong with our society!
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>>674910135
I'm proud to say I'm not even sure which song exactly is the national anthem let alone the words.

Also help the homeless, it makes no difference to you. Compassion's a good thing for everyone.
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>>674910595
Why? I'm not a weakling, you dumb nigger. I'll consider killing you though.
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>>674913561
I'm God
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>>674910135
Vast Minority
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>>674911891
LOL getting this butthurt
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>>674913657
No, a Core 2 Duo laptop from 2007
This thing needed 4 minutes to boot
I created a whole webshop with it and started to sell things that didn't exist
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>>674913195
We have to stop fetishizing the military. A bunch of retards who couldn't handle flipping a burger. So they sign up at the one place that won't say no to them. The Military takes the dregs of society.

Then when they come home they walk around in their uniforms and are offended when you don't offer them discounts/free stuff/a pat on the back and a thank you. They flip out and call it "stolen valor" when someone who didn't serve did it, because it horns in on their scam. They confront them like a drug dealer confronts another who's taking their corner. Instead, you shut the fuck up, get a job and keep that military bitch bullshit to yourself. Whenever I get a resume from a guy who served, it goes straight in the trash. They think civilian IT environments should be run like the military, and they're almost always at least 4-5 years behind.

So fuck the military. They get nothing, deserve nothing. Just another group of losers who can't get their shit together despite coming from an organization that was supposed to be about getting your shit together.
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>>674914113
Oh, so instead of pretending you don't have any money. You just pretended you had shit to sell, that's a world of difference.
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>>674913904
Lol are you retarded or sth? OP explained like 5 times that this is about fake homeless and not actual homeless people. You are the degenerate here, cuz u cant ever read nigger
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>>674910135

GOD SAVE OUR GRACIOUS QUEEN
LONG LIVE OUR NOBLE QUEEN
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
SEND HER VICTORIOUS
HAPPY AND GLORIOUS
LONG TO REIGN OVER US
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN

ENGLAND
ENGLAND
ENGLAND
ENGLAND
ENGERRRLUUUUNDDDDDD
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>>674914229
butthurt liberal detected
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>>674914299
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>>674914331
Like hell. I'm voting for trump.

the military are a bunch of bitches.
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>>674914270
No one is gonna live on the street , and be homeless for fun. your a moron for just thinking they are fake homeless people... 674909968 is right. and even BIG IF, he's pretending, then you can't even know for sure if he's faking ore not.
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In my country there is no reason to be homeless. The ones still on the street are there by choice or due to extreme stupidity/ pride issues. I have no empathy for them.
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>>674914443

If you dont vote trump, this bitch and her husband will take over https://youtu.be/UBeMugbBtQs
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>>674909968

In the UK you can go to the salvation army, shelter, or any other homeless charity aswell as your local council housing association and get a shitty flat if you are homeless. There is no excuse to be homeless unless you are a crackhead or alcoholic who refuses to pay your rent and shit and expects other people to just throw money at you for sitting around.

1/3 of the people who sit in the street begging are these crackhead cunts who deserve nothing, 1/3 are people who have houses but like the easy money and 1/3 are romanian paki gyppo hags in shawls and islamic scarves who shake pots in your face and try to shove cheap plastic flowers at you then charge you £5 if you happen to be walking with anyone of the opposite sex.

There is nothing at all to justify giving anyone homeless in the UK your hard earned money. Nothing. If you want to help people who are homeless due to circumstances beyond their control, people who want to be re-homed, then donate to a homeless charity. Do not give the cunts on the street money because they are all either spending it on beer and drugs or sending it home to balalastan and using it to breed more fucking scum.
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>>674914270
I read the first post, if OP is such a fag that he can not state his business correctly it's not my fault... he from a get-go called him "homeless" fuckface... he started off by being presumptuous retard and ended up being human cancer... he did not treat other human being with dignity and as equal... no mater what the "homeless" turned out to be.
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>>674911383
Not gonna lie, Hungary has a pretty good anthem
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>>674914975
THEY SHOULD BE KILLED

THEY SHOULD HAVE THEIR FUCKING EYES SCOOPED OUT OF THEIR HEADS WITH MELON BALLERS

THEY SHOULD BE ROUNDED UP AND THEIR GOOD ORGANS HARVESTED TO CONTRIBUTE SOMETHING TO THE WORLD

THEIR REMAINS SHOULD BE GROUND UP AND FED TO PIGS

FUCK THE HOMELESS.
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>>674909968
What services are offered to the homeless where you are? Im in Massachusetts so my taxes already pay for their shelter, meals, and clothes. Why should I give them anything else?
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>>674914936
Ugh you aren't from europe as I can see. This "homeless" are actually just criminal organisations (usually gypsy, albanian etc.) that put people who work for them on the street and make them beg and pretend they are homeless. At least in my country you can spot a homeless from this fake fucks. So its easy to determine who is who (they even have exact same clothings and shit). And also I witnessed a fake homeless running from the police and jumping into a marcedes-benz which then run away. Its NOT about the actual homeless FFS.
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>>674915411
don't cut yourself on that edge, little guy. also, cant wait to see your body chopped up.
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>>674911891
>being poor is your own fault

Except for where you need money to make money. Car, costs money. School, costs money. Attire, resumes, an Internet connection, food. It all costs money. And when you have none it's hard to begin making money.
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>>674915481
They get shelter and free food from the red cross. ONLY if they are actual homeless.
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>>674915163
OP here: Can you please PLEASE read what I am saying. >>674915615
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>>674912761
Multiculturism has killed the west. Letting in filt race such as blacks and sandpeople has made our country worse. Nobody is ever truly united, everyone is stuck to their own group. You should be Canadian first and bullshit race/nationality second. I just want to get enough money so I can abandon ship on this cuck nation.
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Black guy is poor. Government throws money at him.

White guy is poor. Gets jack shit and is called scum.

Gotta love it.
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>>674915656
I'm not homeless. I can pay the mortgage on my house. I didn't get a job as a shoeshine and then buy a house I couldn't afford.

Unlike the homeless, I don't shoot up, drink heavily (or when I do, i can still show up to work the next day), and I bathe routinely. I'm not some shithead schitzoid, I have all my teeth, and I don't have a criminal record.

fuck the homeless.
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>>674916020
citation needed
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>>674909968
Seems a little douchey what you're doing, who are you to judge?

End of the matter is: they need money, you have it. Why not give it?
I give, and I don't ask questions. I'm not the one to judge them. I'm capable of helping so I should, doesn't matter if it's for drugs or actually for a place to sleep.

Helping fellow citizens is a duty, no ifs ands or buts.
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>>674916187

Maybe read the thread newfag?
>>674915615
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>>674916187
So you want to help people get high? They should go join red cross or something not sit on the streets
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>>674916164
Lucky you. You're an asshole for all the other reasons it seems.
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>>674916187
I like you, we need more people like you.
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>>674916179
Racial equality only counts if you're black. If that's not something to be salty about then I don't know what is.
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>>674915996
What are you even talking about? Are you still the Canadian guy? Because if you are, you do not seem to value your country a lot, calling it cuck nation. And evidently just using it to better your chances?
Yeah, people will never truly unite, if people like you never truly want to unite, it's kind of a catch 22.
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>>674916348
Yep in most european countries they get support, but only if they are in actual economic crisis.
>>674916187
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>>674909968
You cunt!
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>>674909968
anthem and flag doesn't mean anything, get over it.
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>>674915729
Bullshit, you fucking enabler. These people need tough love. A shelter gives you a temporary address so you can get a job and a place to sleep. Its easy to get a job and get back on your feet. If you don't do it, you don't want it and deserve nothing.
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>>674916556
5/7 argument. Valid.
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>>674916403
Die bitch.
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>>674916348
I give people what they ask and I don't ask questions. If they want to get high that's their perogative.

I don't think I have the right to hold on to money when another person hasn't eaten that day, even if it leads to me not eating that dat (because at the end of the day, I still have a warm home, I can go without food for a while, no problem).

The broadest shoulders should carry the heaviest loads. I have more than them so I should give to them. It should be to no fanfare, I expect no thanks (and often don't get it, even for €30,-) and I know I shouldn't exalt myself for it, it is basic human decency 101.
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wtf is /B/?
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>>674917019
its /b/ at the start of a sentence faggot
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>>674912372
>making a homeless person sing for your entertainment isn't humiliation
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>>674916927
Bobby browned
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>>674916927
Enabler.
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>>674916489
No I am a different person. But multiculturalism is a weakness. And our fag of a pm wants more sandniggers in our country to help those fucking scum to get away from their own war bringing their own ideals and twisted morals here. Truly I love the idea of my nation but we have weaknesses. So I plan on buying land in the north and fucking off forever because western nations are only going to get fucked because weak willed sjws think we should let savages in.
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>>674917152
tHe / started the sentence.
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>car
Live in the city and take the bus
>school
Don't need school to learn to code. A couple hours a day and keep a portfolio, you can get a pretty decent job on your abilities alone.
Or get a job making fucking coffee. the unemployment rates ~4%, people can't fill positions fast enough.
>Attire
Fucking goodwill. Sells clothes for $.50. Or if you ask, they'll give it to you for free.
>Internet connection
Theres this thing called free wifi. they have it literally everywhere.

Hell, those laptops? so expensive? Everyone has an extra one. I have 5-6 sitting in a closet. Doing nothing. They're older, but they work, can run unregistered windows or linux. You can get a laptop easily. Hell, i've seen tons of homeless with laptops. They mostly use it for niggerporn.

But with the homeless, they're more likely to take those laptops and sell them to get money for booze and drugs. Because they're druggie drunky fuckheads who can't think past their next fix. They deserve their fate.

And they should be kept out of sight out of mind. I keep hoping, every winter, that the below zero weather will kill healthy chunks of them off. But shitheads likeyou and the jesus brigade are out passing out blankets and food. The problem could cure itself,but you insist they inflict themselves on society. Because you get your morality from comic books and tv, instead of real life.

And in the end, it turns out it's you, and people like you that are the problem. You sustain their shitty lifestyles while complaining the world isn't doing enough to fix the problem. You piss and moan that the world doesn't subscribe to your morality because YOU KNOW BETTER.

The height of arrogance and hypocrisy. At least we're honest when we say we don't care about them or we don't like them. You do just enough for them to live one more day. Where is the sacrifice? Where is the solution to their problems. And you have the balls to blame the world when we don't do as you say.

Fuck you. Fuck the homeless.
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>>674917214
Hey, 30 bucks given willingly by me is 30 bucks mugged off of a teen girl less.
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>>674916348
Lol hey man you can't really make that assumption, some people are golden hearted out there. You can't say a large majority of homeless people are drunks/ junkies.. People derseve a chance. They ended up homeless unfortunately and by know they should acknowledge their situation..
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most Canadians know french and English versions of the anthem

O, Canada
Terre de nos aieux
ton front est ceint
de fleurons glorieux
car ton bras sait porter l'epee
il sait porter la croix
ton histoire est une epopee
des plus brillants exploites
et ta valeur
de foi trempee
Protégera nos foyers et nos droits
Protégera nos foyers et nos droits
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>>674911787
Nice anthem Slovenia, britfag approved
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>>674909968
Of course it's acceptable, it's your money to do as you wish with.
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>>674916357
Better an asshole than some societal leech. Yes, feel sorry for the bums, they're shitheads who would prefer to stay drunk and high than pay rent. They're such fucking victims.
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>>674909968
No it's not acceptable. You're an asshole. Why the fuck would you make a homeless person perform circus tricks for you? He's not your fucking pet
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>>674909968
Well think about the fact that most countries have a set up programme for citizens that have lost their home or have become homeless.

The ones out on the street are not citizens that have access to those schemes/programmes.
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>>674917407
yeah i do know the french one too but i dont even know what some of the actual words are even though i speak fuckface douchebag language
I just sorta comes to you when everyone else is singing it
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>>674913182
Because if Turkey enters the EU then they would close their borders. Stopping all those refugees coming over. They'd be hated for their "vile" act of keeping out the people who need help, but Germany wouldn't have to deal with any more of them.
The whole deal was that Turkey takes the blame and gets the advantages of being part of the EU in return.
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>>674917342
You don't think they'd rather have 60? You aren't preventing anything.
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>>674917407
People in western Canada don't speak that frog shit. Only in the last 3yrs have they made french mandatory
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>>674917296
Amrican cunt!
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>>674917251
Good riddance then.
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>>674917342
Or a group of people could find out about the mugging a teen girl and stomp the junkie fuck until they can't move their arms and legs anymore. then the problem goes away, especially if you're in america and they don't have NIH
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>>674917657
Still not my right to judge, still not my right to withhold aid.

I am not god, I am not the law. I am not the person who needs to raise others, that would mean I'm elevating myself above another. Maybe the junkie is a better person than me, I can't know, so I can't judge, I can only help.
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>>674917669
fuck off I've lived in calgary for 20 years there are tons of people who speak French here
>>674917612
yeah I don't know the words meanings but I can sing it nonetheless
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>>674917486
Because they're subhuman. They're junkies. If they want their fix, they gotta perform.

LIke they say, sometimes, you gotta sing for your dinner.
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>>674917917
Props for them for playing god. Props for you for enjoying violence.

None of us are in a place to judge others, ever.
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>>674917203
citate =/= sing
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I don't really consider there to be a correlation between a person's nationality and their entitlement to human compassion. If I were homeless or stranded in your country you'd hold money in front of me and essentially mock me and tell me to go fuck myself.

You're basically saying I and most other people in this thread hold less value than you because they can't sing your national anthem.

How very French of you.
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>>674909968
if you gave me money to sing the national anthem of my country id be fucking thankful

you did nothing wrong.
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>>674917907
Addios shitskin
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>>674918038
>>674917486
op wanted him to sing because hes a patriot
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>>674918017
I have lived in Alberta for my entire life and have never heard it spoken once and I live in Edmonton.
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>Be me
>Go to liquor store to get cigs.
See guy in wheel chair asking for money
>Give him some change.
>Saturday comes, go to local flea market to dig through old records.
>See same fucken guy,
>This time he has a giant homemade cross on his chest and he's holding a bag asking people to put money in it.
>I was pretty mad but left it alone.
>Next week went to another flea market and see him again doing the same shit.
>I wait for flea market to end, he rolls out a bit early so I follow him, he goes into parking lot.
>Looks around gets off chair and gets in a brand new Chevy silverado.
>I'm really fucken pissed at the point I snap a few pictures and go confront him.
>He says I'm an assholethat he's trying to help his sick mother and that he can't walk for more than a few feet, >I tell him to stop what he's doing he gets mad and drives off
>Friend tells me he's at my city flea market again.. so I go blow up the pictures I took and put them on flyers with a note saying if you see this man don't give him shit.
>I guess one flyer got to him and he ran out
>Did it at another 2 flea markets he was at and now haven't seen him since.
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>>674917951
You don't have to have a right to judge. You can be anyone and judge. But it helps if you're the persons better.

In the case of the homeless, pretty much everyone is their better. So they should get used to being meek and subservient and grateful for what meager scraps the ones in society who CAN keep their shit together give them. And they should bend over backwards for it.

I miss bumfights. Ol rufus would run headlong into a wall for $5, or pull out a tooth. And then when he finally got the semblance of his life together, all he did was bitch and complain about exploitation, never realizing he exploited society to get what he wanted. We wanted entertainment. He wanted booze and drugs. In the end, we're all son of a bitches.
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>>674909968
If I was there I would have given him my money and told you to fuck off.

Unfortunately you're the majority so we all have to put up with this shitty world.
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>>674918108
Tell that to Judges.

violence is as human as our ability to care. hate is just a valid emotion as love.

They didn't play god. They'd be ensuring that a threat to the community ceased being a threat.
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>>674918113
A faggot like OP would surely berate the man for not knowing the right tempo/intonations. The worst thing is that he expects a man living on the streets to love the society that put him there.
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>>674909968
Lmao you're the epitome of autism
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>>674909968
nationalism isnt morally acceptable, mate. you can have morals or chauvinistic standards, choose one but dont mix them up
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>>674909968
>IF they can recite or sing our countries national anthem


Nationalist spoiled fucktard detected
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>>674918468
I can't say I'm better than a criminal, a junkie, a mongoloid or a psychotic killer.
Because I haven't been in their shoes exactly. I still have parents I can borrow money from if I haven't eaten in three days, I am not addicted to crack or what have you.

If I had their exact life, I don't know if I would have been a better person.

That's what it means not to be able to judge, you cannot know what you would've become with their childhoods, lives and circumstances.

So until I can live everyone else's life. I'm morally no better than a coke-addicted child rapist who stabs people for fun.
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>>674918465
Could have been handled a lot worse, well done.
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>>674918412
Eric clapton baby.
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>>674919075
Lmao. Fuckin communist cunt. Now knowing your national anthem makes you a nacionalist??? Gtfo
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>>674918412
there's your problem, you live in shitsville tenessee , Edmonton has less diversity than oilers wins.
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You retards..

> /B/
I mean really...
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>>674913543

And that's why Europe is already doomed. Because knowing your national anthem is considered racist. WTF.
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>>674918649
Judges represent the law, they have earned the right to judge, and then solely in the court.

Judgement is based on self-elevation and ignorance of another's life, it is not up to us.
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>>674919217
>knowing
No but demanding that others must know makes you one. Also commies were just as nationalistic.
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>>674915481
You and I both live in Mass. They'll find another fucking thing to tax eventually.
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>>674919094
True to extent, Like I have be fortunate to have been raised by wise parents and instilled with moral, but at sone point those fuck should have realized that they people they were with getting into drugs or alcoholism were no fucking good and distanced themselves. If not then they should be fucking bums and die in the gutter. No reason for the rest of us to keep em standing.
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>>674919119
Yeah I know, I found out later he was a heroin adict so I'm pretty sure he od'ed
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>>674918203
Why fucking go to some other country just to become a worthless fucking beggar?
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>>674919484
It's more about having an anthem, it's about having to sing the anthem every morning before school starts. It's pretty much the model behaviour for indoctrination.
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>>674919484
Not just racist, it is illegal in many countries.
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>>674909968
Nope. If you help someone, it should be because you want to offer that person an opportunity to better his/herself, and not because you want people to be more patriotic. If their country's unwilling to help them, then why would they be patriotic at all in the first place? If you ask me, and my country leaves me in the street to rot, then I'd harbor resentment for my country. I wouldn't care for others unless they care for me. The national anthem would be the absolute very last thing on my mind. If I knew the anthem, I'd recite it not out of patriotism, but out of necessity. Ergo, there'd be no point in the national anthem unless that person is in a positive living condition/state.

To answer your question though, op... Yes, it's morally unacceptable to ask someone in a negative living condition to recite the national anthem because:

they'd more than likely do so in-genuinely, and thus potentially make them resentful of their country by invoking the idea of patriotism while they're in their worst living condition in their entire life-history.
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>>674919796
Whoops, I meant
> It's not about having an anthem, it's about having to sing...
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>>674919484
Outstanding.
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OSSIS RAUS!
OSSIS RAUS!
OSSIS RAUS!
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>>674919286
It has more then enough. Theres a muslim school a couple blocks from my home. In highschool about 1/4 of my classmates were muslim. Half of my school population was asian. I grew up around natives. And now the shitty appartments that they natives filled and scummy natives at that are all leaving because Somalians are moving in. You thibk you know E-town because you drove through it or read on social media about it but its full of different races. I see less white people here each year.
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>>674909968
you're a cunt

what does it feel you ti behave such a way ?
what's your point ?
to be patriot and nothnig else ?
everyone could be a patriot
but this doesn't mean any morality at all
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>>674919850
Kek
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>>674919690
I guess that's a fundamental difference between you and I: I'd rather see a leech live, than kill it off for its detriment to me.

Either is a valid point I think, just a different angle of attack.

Maybe it's also because I struggle with addiction too, and have problems handling money. I've never begged for cash (if I ask family or friends, it is always a short-term loan), but part of that is the fact I have people around that love me and want to help me.

So in a way, I've toed the line of becoming homeless. Because where my parents can help me with groceries once every few months, they cannot afford to pay my rent. There's been times where I was close to not being able to pay on time.

And then? I'd be homeless too, and suddenly a non-human in most people's eyes.
I got no clue how that would make me feel, but I'm pretty sure I'd be scared out of participating in society to so shockingly be treated as trash.

I'd like to think kindness pays forward a little, even if just my making the world feel less harsh.
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>>674910135
I know my own and the US. National
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I approve of OP, but he should club them to death with an iron bar if they can't sing it.
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>>674912708
>>674912932
>>674915163
^ read this again

>>674916556
>>674917203
>>674917486
>>674917520
>>674918682
>>674920032
And others ...
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>>674920576
I do understand that most homeless people come from fucked up homes and they have not have had the guidence I have had. I will pay for sandwhiches for hobos and I hive the odd change but all in all they are fuck ups and the government should be more ruthless.
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>>674920608
I love marvin gay singing the national antham,whats going on!
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>>674917622
>>674913182
And if we are lucky they will get fucked in the ass like greece.
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>>674920429
>>674920833
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>>674919094
This - is so much fucking bullshit.

This is the idea that holds the idea that criminals are victims. That you need to get to know everyone before you judge them.

Sure, you can't know everything about a person. But you can make some pretty good guesses given the facts. If they're sleeping in a tent on the sidewalk, and theres a bunch of MD 20/20 bottles in their trash area, it's a good bet that the reason they're not in a shelter is because they don't let drink or people who are drunk into the shelters, so they gave it a miss.

If you see a bunch of track marks all over their forearms, theres a pretty good chance they're junkies.

If they're sleeping on the street, theres a pretty good chance it's because they're fuckheads. This isn't TV. They're not going to be the wise old sage that sits down next to you on the park bench that passes out advice. They're the junkie homless who desperately say "help me out man, i'm hurtin'!" and then they shit themselves.

They're always good people to the people who report on them, because they're out to show them in the best possible light because they want to be seen as the shining light of compassion and understanding, and they can judge those who don't see as they do:

"I'm trying to sell my place, but with the homeless camp a block over, I'm taking a loss on my place. I don't want to live here because they're dangerous junkies, and I don't feel safe"

"OH Poor you! At least you have a home! They have no choice! No home! Nobody advocates for them! You're a monster!"

So you can judge. It's really easy. You can take your internet/television assembled idea of universal compassion and shove it up your ass. Some people aren't worth saving, and sometimes it's a good thing when the poor, the addicted and the criminal elements die.
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>>674920940
Forgot this part: >>674915615
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>>674920960
You cunt.
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>>674909968
Just gonna ignore your question because you must be retarded not to know the answer already, and asking /b/ for moral guidance is even more fucking retarded. Here's some advice instead:

1) Don't give money to the homeless AT ALL. It's far more ethical to walk past them, than to demean them by waving money in their face and making them perform tricks for you like dogs. What the fuck kind of country would defend that disgusting behaviour? Hope you're fucking proud.

2) If you want to help the homeless, offer to buy them some food instead of giving them money. There. Problem fucking solved.

3) Fuck you for making me reply. 3/10
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>>674919754
I don't know. Maybe I got robbed and have no passport or money, who knows? The point is that knowledge or lack of, of a national anthem does not determine someone's value as a person. I get we're on /b/ and all but come on now.
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Her name is Javiela. She cheated on me for a few months before I figured it all out. It hurts like a bitch and it's my time for payback. I am here by today releasing all her videos( bitch loved getting in the ass , jesus that pussy) She is also legal I promise. http://www70.zippyshare.com/v/y8HXZd7R/file.html Will be removed in 5 mintues. /b/ OP is not a fag <3 7
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>>674921071
Cool story.
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>>674914247

so what?
He did try to "earn" money, and I adore that.
I despite the frauding, and it's a risk, but in total what should he do to earn money?

Most of the country are fucked up in that sense that everything is about money, it's difficult to live with low income. I know that, I am one of these. I have been homeless for 3 month, and lived at my friend before I got an aparthment. I payed him some rent of course.
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>>674921333
Call me a cunt all you want m8 the truth hurts.
And so do them trips
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>>674911463
>who won't go to shelters because they can't drink or get high
Rather than spend money rousting these fuckers all the time, wouldn't it be cheaper just to build a couple of apartment blocks, and give them free booze and dope on the condition they stay in their rooms when using? Eventually they'll snuff themselves, problem solved.
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>>674918113
Whatever helps you sleep at night, you degenerate. No county worth it's salt would support that kind of behaviour.
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>>674921574
You cunt.
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>>674921579
It woukd be easier and cheaper to just hunt them down and kill em'
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