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Knowing what we know about health, annoyance, cost and danger, why do people start smoking in 2016?

It's not exactly easy. You have to struggle past your first few, it's a painful, dissatisfying and rewardless experience. But people persevere through the pain and shame and discomfort to force an unnatural addiction to cigarettes. An addiction that most smokers can never conquer for the next 70 years.

Why?
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>>674619018
On my 4th day without a cig; off the patches and down to one or two pieces of gum per day. I feel better than I have in years & im getting over a cold lmao! Started smoking 9 years and 10 months ago; almost a full decade. Best decision I ever made was to quit.
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>>674619018
>>674619018
>cuz a mouth fedora is not dangerous lolz
>cuz we are the kewl kids
>ebryone is doing it anon.
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>>674619018
It'll just kill me sooner.
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>>674619018
why do non smoke fags care that smoke fags are dying? I dont understand this
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>>674619018

The real answer is because no single cigarette/bong hit is going to kill you. The danger lies in making them a habit. Decades of smoking are going to kill you. But damages stemming from even 5-7 years of casual smoking can be almost completely undone if one quits early enough in their lifetime.
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>>674620058
the money you need to spend to maintain your habit/addiction is enough for me to never do that shit.
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>>674620204
This. 8 bucks a day is an incredible expense, even in the short term. Can't fathom how average New Yorkers afford it
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To look kewwl
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>>674619931
Because when your old, you start becoming a real burden for society. COPD? Heartfailure?
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>>674619018
Because people are stupid as fuck
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The truth is that less than 10% of life long smokers die from lounge failure. This is a bullshit, the studies are done with funding from anti-smoking campaigns. Just like back when they made marijuana illegal. They lied and sheep blindly follow. Thanks for giving these people power.
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>>674619018
why did daddy cant stop smoking? or is it mommy faggot? are you afraid one of them die someday and then you will have to become a complete adult? but you are afraid becuase you are a fucking faggot.
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>>674620378
im a eurofag but i understand that new york is super expensive to live? i also dont know how all these cig smoking hipster survive overthere.
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Do you even vape bro
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>>674619494
Dumbfuck 4 days isnt quitting yet
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>>674620204

I don't smoke cigarettes but I do smoke pot. I'm not one of those ignorant potheads who claim it's healthy and cures cancer. I have enough common sense to know it's an unhealthy habit. At the same time, binge drinking is an unhealthy habit and almost all of my friends get hammered every weekend.

I plan to quit smoking once I graduate college. I made some great friends through smoking and it's given me a new appreciation for a lot of things in life. At the same time, I don't want to fuck my lungs up by decades of smoking.

As far as cost goes, I'll smoke a half ounce (~$120) every 3 months or so. It's not too expensive of a habit, but money has never been an issue for me.
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Its cool
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>>674620550
Kill yourself
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>>674620550
bruh it is scientifically proven that smoking increases your chance of cellular mutation AKA cancer.
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>>674620568
Watch San Francisco 2.0 on HBO documentaries. NY is big enough that you can still find affordable housing in queens, Bronx, Brooklyn. Cigarette taxes are some of the highest in the country
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>>674619018
I started smoking because both my parents, my older brother, and two aunts smoked. They all told me all the time how bad it was yet kept smoking, this tickled my curiosity so i started smoking. I've tried to quit, but living in a house filled with smoke is close to imposible, it is one of the reasons i want to move out ASAP.
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>>674619018
because it helps not kill everyone around me
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>>674620655
I quit after the last cig. Check your dictionary, herb.
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>>674620568
Cigarretes are even more expensive in NY. They're heavily taxed
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8 dollars a day?
I feel like I smoke quite a lot and I'll go through 2 boxes a week. MAYBE 3 if I end up drinking that week. And rolling tobacco a 25g pouch would last me over a week. nearly 2 weeks.
Do people really smoke that much? Cause I've been smoking for years and before I was working a pack or 12.5g tobacco would last a whole week.
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>>674620765
He wasn't arguing it didn't increase the chances. He is saying the chances are low as shit and anti-smoking campaigns purposefully make it sound far worse than it is.
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>>674620778
it seems that these big cities who attract millennials are expensive or is that just an idea?
here where i live too (belgium)
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>>674619494

Pussy.
> Quitting before managing a decade.

Are you going to raise your children to give up this easily too?
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I like it in the same way you like your coffee in the morning

Im sorry you dont like the way I smell or that once in a blue moon you get to breath the ciggarete smoke for a second, but maybe you should stop being a little bitch
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>>674620794
Damn dude, you never had a chance. Even if you didn't start, the amount of 2nd hand you absorbed is insane
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>>674620550

>lounge failure
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>>674619018
its a form of suicide for people that dont have the courage for it
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>>674619018
Well when I started in 1993 I thought I was being cool. The health effects happen to OTHER people...not me. ....and for a long time it didnt effect me. But in 2011 smoking three packs a day was taking its toll on my wallet. I have been a runner and athletic all my life, but after I quit, it was apparent how much it had been holding me back.
I dont smoke anymore and I only run omce a week if Im lucky....but my run time is still better than when I was running every day and smoking.
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>>674619018
Cuz it's fucking cool
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>>674621093

> This

Second hand smoke is the biggest bullshit ever pushed on the public. Unless you're routinely in an enclosed car with someone smoking, you'll be fine.
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>"It's not too expensive of a habit, but money has never been an issue for me."
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>>674621046
Urban influx is real and being fueled by millennials, true. In large East Coast US cities, the poor are actually being pushed into the suburbs - onetime reserved for upper middle class whites
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>>674620550

You're one special kind of retarded tinfoil hat.
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>>674619018
This picture is not accurate. search do smokers lung actually turn black?

I say this as a former smoker who had to try really hard to quit. No smoke responds to health threat. It's short term versus long term thinking.
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>>674621093
the problem is that cigarette smell stays in your clothes after you spend only 1 minute with these people in a non ventilated area.

>your breath stinks
>your clothes stink
>your house stinks
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>>674619018
because humans are apes.
people forget we are only a couple million years removed from a fucking chimpanzee.
most of us are still fucking retarded
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>>674620742
Don't worry anon he already is.
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>>674619018
Why do people do "any bad habit" in "current year" is an idiotic question.
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>>674619018
I smoke to intensify the high of percocets
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>>674621507
>these people
muh opression, i identify as a ciggarete smoker and you better use my pronous; "go" "fuck" "yourself"

thanks
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>>674620550
fuck i need to lounge more
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>>674619018
It's mostly kids doing it because they think it makes them cool, or more mature. I would have denied it back then, but that's exactly why I started.

It is stupid to do. I've been quit for about 6 months now. I've quit before though. The longest I stayed quit was about 1 year. I intend to stay quit this time though. The problem before is that I mistakenly thought that I could handle smoking a few while out drinking. I don't drink anymore though, so it won't be a problem. I'm pushing 40. I'm still in good health, but I know that it's only a matter of time before shit starts going wrong, especially if I keep smoking. I know that if I don't stay quit, very soon it will probably be too late.
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>>674621296

My parents make a combined $700,000/year. I was raised spoiled as hell and at age 21 my parents still pay for everything for me.

> TFW no student debts
> TFW parents are paying for my dental school in full (a $500,000 price)
> TFW got to live in a mansion growing up
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>>674621274
>underage b&
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>>674621337
i hate the suburbs. there are federal government plans here in belgium to turn the countryside into suburban environment and our country is already so small... im gonna move to france because this has made our people road rage the hardest in all of europe and i fucking hate that shit.
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>>674621291
fuck off you filthy human being
i dont want to inhale your cancer you inconsiderate piece of shit
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Why do people drink beer knowing it's bad for you. I mean, your first beer doesn't even taste good. Why do they continue?
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>>674621728
its not like i associate with you smokers anyway.
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>>674621780
I ain't mad anon. Just go do the shit that us poorfags will never get the chance to.
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>>674621036

Because smoking doesn't ruin your cardiovascular system causing your cells to, essentially, slowly suffocate while shaving years and years off your expected lifespan.
Not to mention how the addiction fucks up your brain to the point where any moment without cigarettes fucks your own mental health.

There is literally no upside to smoking. It's not even a thrill (for those thrill-seekers amongst us).

Plus this retarded habit infects everyone around you.
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>>674621274
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>>674621854

I don't even smoke but I know that the occasional half breath of cigarette smoke isn't going to give you cancer. Smokers themselves won't even get cancer unless they smoke for 15+ years on a consistent basis.
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>>674621933
youre gonna end up in the ground either way, probably miserable in your last moments. wondering what if the love of your life was a smoker

grow up, its just a habit
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>>674620058
I only plan to go 3 years until end of school
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>>674621914
Some beers taste good
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>>674619018
Biggest regret in my life to smoke, started with spinning it with weed, ended up smoking cigarettes.
quit on and off for just over 10 years.
a constant fucking itch in your brain that never ever goes away.
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>>674622133
>youre gonna end up in the ground either way
then find the nearest bridge and jump off because your're gonna die anyway
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Because of the billboards in mah hood yo
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>>674622004
It helps you relax, it's not for a thrill. It's that little bit that helps you not leave your wife or quit your job.
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>>674619018
The thought came me to but not in regards to health.

Less smoking on television and film.
Less figures smoking in commercials.
ZERO cigarette commercials.
NO SMOKING in bars, waiting rooms, cafes, in trains and subways, in home with children etc......

Yet something still compelled people born after 2000 to smoke.
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>>674621914
because its not as damaging when you drink in moderation. but i agree regardless. i drank from my 14 to my 19 then i stopped.
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>>674622428
Old movies>>674622007
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>>674622243

Hey man just make sure you follow through on that promise. I'm graduating next year but I've been smoking pot since my sophomore year of high school. Honestly it doesn't even appeal to me any more. I still do it because of the social aspect associated with it, but it just gives me increased anxiety at this point.
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>>674619931
Because your secondhand smoke makes everyone around you suffer.
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>>674622428
hipster/beatnik mentality mane.
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>>674619018
Same reason they did in the 70s
>to look cool
&&
>be popular
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>>674622079
thats not how cancer works. any exposure to a carcinogen can start a mutation that can become cancer. you only need to knock the telomeres off one chromosome to get cancer.
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>>674620902

It has been four days you gigantic faggot, you will still have nicotine in your blood stream. You haven't quit, you just haven't smoked in 4 days. Come back in 4 years, then you can say you've quit.
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>>674622810
>any exposure to a carcinogen
how do i avoid this shit?
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>>674619494
Great job, stay strong a keep it up!
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>>674621780
>700k
>thinks hes rich
My fiancées parents make 10 mil a year. They just bought us a 3 million dollar penthouse with cash for our wedding present.
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>>674622645
Are you locked in a room with smokers?
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>>674619018
you people do see theirs 2 pairs of lungs right? meaning both fuckers are dead why the fuck do you care if my lungs look good after i am dead you faggot
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>>674620462
actually we die young and you live longer, you live to to the age where your bdy starts reaking down anyway and your going to cost the system money no matter what
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>>674622133
You seem like the type who eats excessively fattening food, not caring about health, because hey
>I'm gonna die one day anyway
>everyone else is doing it
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>>674621274
>dr no
i just watched that.

daniel craig bond is better tho
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>>674619018
Smoked for 4 years, quited cold turkey for about 8 month, smoked one month and requited so far (1 and a half month)

I'd guess most people start for social reasons.
Myself I actually enjoyed my first puffs.

Overall experience : Smoking feels good but it's definately shit.
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>>674621093
My coffee doesn't create a 20 foot radius of stink anywhere I go. It's not a public nuisance and it doesn't endanger people with medical sensitivities. It stays in the cup, then I drink it, and that's it. Maybe i take a mint in consideration of people who are immediately face-to-face with me. It has absolutely no effect on the people around me at all.

Put it this way: you can't blast a boombox at earsplitting levels in a restaurant or near certain places especially at night. If you flash a laser or strobelight in some places you will get kicked out for annoying people. Guess what, people have the same expectations regarding their sense of smell as they do their sight and hearing. It's called mutual consideration. Welcome to society, you fucking idiot.
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>>674619931
Because when you're dying of 5 different types of cancer simultaneously you're a huge burden on society, especially if you live somewhere with government funded free healthcare like Canada.
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>>674619018
as soon as i had rolled my first joint after 50 thousand fucking attempts i sat in my chair and listened to the same song for two hours straight baked as fuck, from there i ended up just smoking tobacco in places you can't have weed and it just sort of developed from that, but i still hate the taste of tobacco even now, 5 years later
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>>674623074
whats that disgusting skin disease on these hands? it looks like the owner put them in a nuclear reactor.
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>>674622996
Chinafag here, my dad makes 50 mil a year. Owns nuclear power plants and textile factories
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>>674623314
not sure if b8, or retarded.
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>>674620628
Ross?
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>>674622079
>Smokers themselves won't even get cancer unless they smoke for 15+ years on a consistent basis.

Which is the majority of smokers.

The years fly by too. You won't keep track of the time. No one does. They just suddenly realize one day that hey, 20 years has somehow passed. If you're a teenager, there's no way you'll get that though. You pretty much have to experience it first hand to appreciate it.
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>>674623337
rockefeller fag here, my dog makes trillions by being a kike and demanding reparations from Merkel.
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>>674620550
>lounge
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>>674623314
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>>674623337
Pretty sure 50mil china money is less than 1 mil in freedom land big guy
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>>674622996
>>674623337

I make roughly a billion a year, have my own yacht and have 5 mansions around the world
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>>674620663
Why not just vape?
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>>674623589
>Vaping
>Water in your lungs
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>>674623551
>china money
kek
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>>674623225
Same I only started smoking cigs because I quit weed but still wanted to smoke.
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>>674619018
fuck you if i want to give all my money to philip morris i'll do it
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>>674623572
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>>674623314
its what happens when you sit in your wanking chariot for too long, believe me i know
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>>674623589
Because it's better to be a fag fag than a vape fag...
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>>674623438
Just gonna say this fucking kek
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>>674623337
How much is that in real money, or fuck, even pesos?
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>>674619931
>be father
>kid starts smoking
>don't want your kid to have cancer

>be kid
>dad and mom smoke
>don't want your dad or mom to have cancer

>be normie
>have friends who smoke
>don't want friends to die from lung cancer

Do I need to continue?
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Current smoker, going on 4 years now. Started smoking after I joined the military as it was a way for us to unwind after classes, also was a great place to make some good friends. Now I'm out of the military, but I work as a contractor with alot of other prior service members. Smoking is still a very large part of military culture as its the only real way to get a break from time to time. Like it's acceptable for me to take a break once an hour to smoke, but any other breaks are frowned upon.
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>>674623572
>>674623747
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>>674622949
you cant, but avoiding concentrated sources reduces your probability of getting cancer. cancer is a natural part of aging, assuming you dont die of another cause, everyone will get cancer eventually.
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>>674623589
Not him, but vaping is wayy too complicated. All the juice, the different components of the vapes, the things you have to monitor and replace, and it's expensive. So much simpler to just do it the old fashioned way.
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>>674623732
Fucking A
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>>674619018
I agree with you. But those first cigs I had were GOOD. Sent me within home. Granted I was fucking drunk and on drugs but NIC WAS GOOD TO ME. I also believe we should aim to improve infrastructure in ALL countries. BUT first we should ain to improve general education. To do this we should colonize the third world (fuck off political incorrectness! Third word is a correct descriptor!). Only then will we begin to see world unity and peace! Fuck niggers!
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>>674623438
its just a fucking joke you fucking reddit tourist. if someone makes a joke that does not always mean its bait you fuck.
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Quit 12 years ago. Best thing I could gave done.
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>>674623551
When I say 50 mil, I mean it in USD. Didn't think someone could be this stupid
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>>674622645
propagandaindustribullshit
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>>674620663
>I know it doesnt cure canxer.

Literally no one thinks this you dumb fuck

It's used to treat the pain cancer causes
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>>674623990
>reddit tourist
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at least non smokers die healthy
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>>674623957
fuck the universe for creating cancer.
what if i eat antioxidants to kill cancer cells before they become a threat?
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>>674620410
honestly this. that's why I started.
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>>674622996

Never claimed I was rich. Just claimed I was spoiled. I've never had to pay for gas, a car, food, textbooks, tuition, etc. My house was 4 floors with a full basketball court in our backyard. But that was honestly the norm in my town growing up. I never realized how good I had it until I went to college and had friends working 2 jobs just to help pay for tuition.
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>>674622423
Why not form healthier habits that bring about the relaxation feeling though? The worst thing you can do is justify an addiction
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>>674623076
>daniel craig bond is better

must be b8. HAS to be b8
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>>674622856
If somebody stopped smoking on X day, they would say "yeah I stopped smoking on X day" not X day+4 years you fucking dumbass.
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>>674623468

Oh I'm fully aware. I'm only 21 but the past 3 years of my life have flown by. I also know time will only speed up as you keep aging. I don't think about it now, but I know that I'm going to look back on today and remember being young. It fucking sucks man.
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>>674624058
I never thought Chinese people had a sense of humor. I still think they dont
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>>674624409
FYI I'm 24 and 2010 felt like yesterday

that span of time you felt was 'quick' between 20 and 21? yeah, that perceived timeframe will hold the rest of your life
you'll hit 25 and think "i feel like i was 20 last week"
you'll hit 30 and think "i feel like i was 20 last week"
you'll hit 40 and think "i feel like i was 20 last week"
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>>674624108
Its more true than you think.


>15 year olds on /r/4chan
>there being a le sub leleddit of 4chan in the first place
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>>674623589
why not literally suck cock
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>>674623711
yeah looking back on it now i should've just bought an e cig or some shit cause i mean i spend more on cigs now than what i did when i used to smoke weed but saying that idk how much weed goes for nowadays so
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>>674624314
Don't ever fucking reply to me again.
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>>674624146
still die tho
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>>674624730
Oh I know. I've noticed a 'change' here since Monday.

>fucking normies clogging up the /b/
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>>674624876
daniel craig was good but he makes bond look too serious
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Im honestly worried what my lungs look like, mum and bro both smoke in a small house for 10+ years, how bad will it be?
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>>674619018
I don't smoke , but who the hell wants to live to be 90 and live In a home anyway? I don't want to be treated like a baby when I get old.
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>>674619018
Becouse smokers enjoy smoking. I was smoking from time to time on the parties or during vacation, and then everyday for about few months. I've decided to quit cuz it was expensive and my stamina was decreasing. I didnt have any problem with quiting tbh. The thing I miss the most is the ritual itself. Its just nice to go out during night for a smoke and look at the sky. It's nice when u meet new person, especially a girl and u offer her a cig. and interaction becames instantly easier.
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>>674624730
fuck reddit. le front page of the internet. ok, ok i dont give a fuck. its just another cosumerist website where you have to make an account, post shit and liking/upvoting shit. not to mention the internet warrior meme.
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>>674624876
daniel craig is shit and so are you. who's you're second favorite? piers brosnan? lol
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>>674619018
I never knew this place cared so much about health. Maybe go out for a jog and stop browsing porn webm threads if you're going to preach about how everyone is shortening their life. Also, good luck on living forever non-smokers.
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>You have to struggle past your first few,
nope
>it's a painful, dissatisfying and rewardless experience
it's fun and exciting, from the first to the one I'm going to go outside to have in a few minutes.
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>>674625136
I said don't ever fucking reply to me again!
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>>674623669
Water in your lungs is harmless.

When you drown it's not because water is in your lungs, it's because air isn't. And if you get a substantial amount at once, and you fail to cough it up, your throat can close instinctively and you choke that way.

Either way though it's not because water is like poison if it's in your lungs. The body is mostly water, they can absorb a little mist. They're fairly wet already.
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>>674624668

That's honestly one of the biggest cruelties in life. It's not only short, but the healthiest years of your life are always at the beginning. I don't want to wake up one day at age 55 and realize my best years are behind me.
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>>674619018

why do people get fat?
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how bad out of 10 do you guys think smoking tobacco through a bong is bad for your lungs overs cigs?
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>>674624377
People generally quit many times for week long stints and fail, you wouldn't feel 100x better after 4 days anyway. I've gone longer than you without smoking and didn't consider it quitting
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>>674625496
Because they are lazy and pathetic
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>>674625409
not the same guy faggot
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>>674619018
We're too many on this planet.
I'm saving the whole humanity.
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>>674623589
>Why not just make everyone instantly lose any respect they have toward you and disappoint your parents?
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>>674620485
End thread.
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>>674623957
Vapes use less bud as they are able to activate more THC and other cannabinoids, so they end up eventually paying for themselves. There is barely any maintenance with vapes at all, compared to other ways of smoking. Sure you can take the simpleton way out, but enjoy inhaling all those carcinogens and your decreased lung capacity in the future.
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>>674625385
>good luck on living forever non-smokers.
go smoke from your vagina you fucking bitch. i just wanna live without any fags like you spewing smoke in the environment and poisoning my air and stinking all the time your faggot lungs produce more smoke than that vulcano from lord of the fucking rings.
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>>674625413
>water in your lungs is harmless
>pneumonia
Bruh, it's water....in your lungs. D'you really want to PAY so you can drown to death on Lucky Charms-flavored vapor? I know I don't.

I don't get why people do any of it. Drinking, smoking, vaping, weed, drugs, etc. Just live as healthily as possible without paying for an early grave.
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>>674620550
yes. the anti smoking campain is big. there is a lot of money in not selling stuff
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>>674619018
Just remember - any fag can quit. It takes a *real* man to face emphysema, lung cancer, throat cancer, heart disease, etc.
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>>674621581
Underrated
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>>674625941
dont forget rotten teeth.
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>>674619018
smoked for more than 10 years and quit like 6 years ago. now the only time I'm smoking is when I'm getting drunk, which happens maybe 4 times a year. could be worse. quitting was pretty easy tbh, just do it and don't be a whiny bitch.
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ITT:underage try to understand why society smoke
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>>674619018
Mfw both are fucking dead so it doesn't matter who was a smoker
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>>674619018

Most people start smoking because they are socially weak. They need it to fit in and feel less out of place when they are in a group of their peers.
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>>674621581
kek
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5 bucks a pack here in oregon but i cant find affordable housing for shit

>>674620778
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>>674620550
lounge failure you say... Interesting..
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>>674625409
he's not me ya retard. and i'll reply to you whenever i feel like, little man
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>>674619018
well you see when your life is shit and you dont expect to live past 20 then cigarettes are great. they help relieve stress and it gives you sometyhing to do while bored or even with your friends
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>>674619812
this
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>>674624668
for me it's 24. I feel like I was 24 last week
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>>674626121
just like kikes and their weird clothes and hairstyles.
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>>674624090

Go on /r/trees and you'll see plenty of delusional idiots who claim it cures cancer
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>>674621914
>he can't into stouts
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>>674626403
It cures some kinds of cancer out of the thousands of kinds but smoking it does cause cancer so people defending that are retarded
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>>674621081
TOP KEK
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>>674619812
It isn't *that* it'll kill you sooner... it's *how* it'll kill you.
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Well smoking didn't use to be as bad you know... If any oldfags here you know that around 06-08 not entirely sure, they started added FSC to cigarettes which makes the paper fire retardant unless being dragged to prevent fires from people leaving unattended cigs lit. I personally quit a year after they did this because I believe it gave them a nasty taste and some brands gave me headaches which didn't before.. So basically the government uses cigarrets as a tax revenue and as population control. Now get yourself a nice handrolled Cuban and tobacco is not a bad guy, when's its processed with fiberglass, formaldehyde and other chemicals, it fucks your shit.
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>>674626121
lol?
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>>674620550
>lounge failure
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>>674625702
>>674626312
Don't ever fucking reply to me again.
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>>674626286
a smokers lounge after one cig
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>>674624876
It's ok to reply to your son though, right?
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Started smoking when I was 16, seven years later, finally managed to quit. Haven't had a cig in a month, feels gud.
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Reasons to smoke

> It helps you lose weight
> It makes you cool
> It you have a baby face it will make you look older
> It helps you meet new friends
> It brightens your mood
> It gives you something to look forward to in your shitty lives

Stay mad you anti-smoker faggots. I'll blow my cigarette smoke in your children's faces.
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>>674623589
>vaping
>ever
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