Yes, the answer to one psycho with ballistic missiles, is another psycho with ballistic missiles. Wow.

Fuck yeah, go America. Trump is a bad ass

>thinking anyone wants to 'fix' NK

>be [current year]

please dispel more wisdom upon us for we are waiting with rapt attention

>>674502016
Maybe because your so sensitive and progressive, you could make the Norks your friend?

>>674502196

You've got a chink version of Al Capone with a nuke on a bottle rocket that could hit anything in a 500 mile radius, assuming that they could shoot straight.

Fuck that shit. Bomb the fuck outta them then bill China for what it cost.

>>674502504
Perhaps because you're so primitive and conservative you think it's just so simplistic.

>>674503119

When you present people with binary live/die choices, you have their hearts and minds.

>>674502196
fat chance...

Lol how everyone thinks NK is nore short of a joke. Yeah their tech is primitive compared to the world superpowers but you forget that its still a country run by hundreds if not thousands of incredibly smart people.

Seriously think abiut it you fucks?
North korean propaganda isnt meant for the north koreans.
Its meant to trick the rest of the world into think8ng its a backward ass joke of a dictatorship so that they can successfully hide their actual political agendas and keep many many secrets.

The leaders have secretly ran their country into the ground and then made out that they are in charge of all the good that comes to it and that the USA is evil.
So now they have a country full of people who totally believe it and are willing to die for their great leader/ to rid the world of the USA.
Wake up you fucking idiots...

Donald trump is the same.
You think jes a joke?
Hes about to become the fucking president you retarded cunts.
You domt become the president of the main world superpower.
Its all a bullshit front and a perfectly executed lie to make you sot down and behave like the good little dog you are.

Fuckin idiots.

>>674503061
they've got millions of people that would need feeding and housing

act as a buffer zone for china to the west

deflect away from other gross indecencies in the east

probably can't shoot a nuke

probably won't start a war because their leadership isn't stupid and wants to stay in power

gg m8, what's right isn't always what's done

>>674504235
That was some pretty long autism.

>>674504235
* you dont become the president of the main world superpower by being that ignorant and retarded.
Theres a lot more going on than you think*
Thats what i meant to say, missed half my sentence ahah...

>>674503551
No, you don't have their hearts and minds. You might have them do just enough to stay alive for the time being, but you haven't solved the problem long term. In fact, you will probably wind up with a bigger problem going forward.

>>674503551
You're assume the players involved are just the US and North Korea. Much more is at play.

>>674500787
Do you have any fucking idea of the repercussions that would occur if Trump or anyone for that matter started getting into North Korean affairs? There's reason nobody has touched that shit.

>>674504898
Do tell.

>>674502117
Trump is bad, yes; and he's an ass. Your statement is correct.

>>674504235
Sadly, the aliens that support Fat Boy are just as incompetent as he is. The last galactic commie Care Package they fired hit the wrong planet.

The good news is the protozoan life forms of Titan are as pissed off as we are and are funding a Trump for Galactic President PAC

>>674500787
Wow. Much Logic. So strategy.

>Trump Will Fix It.

>>674503061
Would that be before or after the bill to Mexico?

>>674505210
I fucking hate Trump but this was a really gay reply.

>>674505111
Trips demand it. >>674504898 Explain yourself nigger.

>>674500787

Because war with China would fuck USA's economy and send us into another world war.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-North_Korean_Mutual_Aid_and_Cooperation_Friendship_Treaty

>>674505383
I suppose pun's are not your thing.

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>>674505111
>Implying China is gonna sit by and watch as it's little bro that takes media attention away from all the shit they're doing gets a hit or even a threat from the US.

Fuck with North Korea and the Chinese will fuck you over. Probably without the use of military. They can prolly make do with the other countries buying their shit without the US and just stop trade. One month in and the US will be begging for trade to recommence.

>>674504552

They've got nukes u cuke.

Taking out Fatboy and his buddies ultimately helps millions of people. It's time China steps up to the plate and deals with the outcomes of it choices.

Fuck protecting the extravagances of the gangster elite. They should ship rice to the proletariat that they have ground under the heel of their cowardice.

Was that over the top? I can never tell.

>>674500787
Korea also sentenced a fucking typical American retard to 15 years hard labor for GOING TO NORTH KOREA AND STEALING. You fuckers are the worst god damn travelers in the world.

But that aside, you should invade DPRNK and get your crying spoiled faggot back.

It'll be funny.

>>674506011
>One month
That seems like a lot longer than it would take to ass rape Best Korea if China didn't intervene militarily tbh.

>>674504716

Naw.. China does. They caused it and they need to be made to fix it... or pay for us to fix it, with interest.

>>674504235
I've heard this hypothesis floated before by strategists, but end of the day, it's still anybody's guess, and we're still left playing the waiting game to see how long it takes them to collapse from within. The cracks are everywhere. It's actually more crack than solid material at this point.

>>674506340
I firmly believe that if the US wanted to get intimate with NK, the Chinese would not only arm NK to the teeth but also would assist in taking down the US.

>>674506501
Good luck with that, you can't make China do anything.

>>674506114
As retarded as it sounds, you cant help but feel a bit bad for him?
Like i agree wtf is he doing going to NK in the first place.

But this guy is 21yo. Who knows if he even did it, he disappeared from his tourgroup and then called randomly saying he was sick and went to hospital
(Alone? In NK? As an American?)

Noone heard from him until his confession. Which was 100% forced and writtwn by NK officials.

For all we know he was kidnapped and tortured from info on the US.

Now hes been sentenced to 15 years manual labor prison camp in a country with no food and who hates Americans.
So essentially hes been given the long hard death sentence.

As i mentioned, hes retarded for going their but man do i feel bad for him

>>674504898
>repercussions that would occur if Trump or anyone for that matter started getting into North Korean affairs

We're not getting into their affairs, we're voiding their statehood. China either fixes this shit, or they deal a Euro level of hungry ants crossing their border.

>>674506340
Actually attacking North Korea IN North Korea is "not something we are militarily interested in". Nor is attacking Canada in its swamps, & to a lesser degree of difficulty, attacking Afghanistan in its high Rocky Mountain ranges.

Their entire country is a pile of boobytraps. Old weapons still kill soldiers.

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>>674506657

>implying china can do anything to the U.S.

What is china gonna give NK? some more 60 year old outdated soviet era weapons?

Chinas military is a fucking joke, especially when compared to their population size

>>674505333

After Mexico. They're our buds, we'll let them finance it with sweet interest rate.

>>674507069
Yeh.
He gon diiiie!

Real slowwwwly.

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North Korea is a fucking joke, that's why we never take them seriously.

People like Trump would only incite war, war that most faggots who vote for him wouldn't go and fight in.

War is almost never needed, fighting is not the answer to every problem.

>>674507108
Cut off the aid and they start firing. They start firing and you have to get involved. You get involved so does China. It has all the makings of WW3 just from stopping food going into NK.

Would you rather some bratty overlord launches a few flares every now and then with small packed lunches thrown at him, or potential for WW3?

It's honestly not worth changing what gets done now.

>>674507273
You've definitely never heard about China's brilliant military strategy against the Japanese invasion during WWII. Hint: "throw more people at them, and maybe they'll go away!"

>>674505592

So we have to buy Christmas toys from India. Who the fuck cares?

>>674507273
Your understanding of the words coming out of your mouth both delights and entertains, anon.

>>674507273
Your understanding of a military intervention is a fucking joke.

>>674507069
Have you read about their labor camps? Seriously fucked up. I recommend you look into it if you haven't already. Most people wouldn't expect shit like that in the modern world.

Sometimes I get the feeling you faggots just read a few headlines and think nothing ever changes ever.

The last country to face off and take an aggreeive military stance against North Korea... was...

WAS

bueller?


That's right, it was China, just a few days ago.
North Korea is better at making enemies than it is at existing.

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>>674506011
>One month in and the US will be begging for trade to recommence.

Are you kidding? Fucking over the people that have shitloads of our cash is what we do best. Ask the OPECers. Ask the Nippers.

Our economy would fucking go through the roof if we back-stab those running dog traitors to Mao.

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>>674507708

>I think you're wrong but im to much of a faggot pussy idiot to come up with a rebutle or any sort of logical argument so im just gonna call you dumb and then suck my own tiny dick

okay bud.

>>674506114
>you should invade DPRNK

We're not going to invade. We'll send in some Crispy Creme seeking drones.

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>>674505210
Cuck detected.

>>674500787
This is too stupid to be anything other than bait.

>>674506011
You understand chinas ENTIRE economy is based off trade with the U.S. and E.U right?

If they were to try to sanction the U.S. they would literally be thrown into the stone age. People will be killing eachother in the streets for loaves of bread.

EU pretty much does what the U.S. says. If China stopped trade, it would hurt them 59784503 times more then it would hurt the U.S. or EU

>>674508160
That's the deal. If you fight them, they'll conclude their government has been right all this time, rally, and fight back. The longer they sit there twiddling their thumbs, the more restless and unhappy their people are getting with the sad state of affairs, and the closer the inevitable collapse from within looms.

The world has realized it can just sit around and wait it out, and not be bothered whether it takes 3 years or 30. It costs us nothing, the rewards are nothing, and all parties will be better off letting NK sort itself out.

>>674507108
a) You can't just void their statehood.
b) There are far more Chinese than Americans

>>674508904
China would survive longer than the US in a trade breakdown, and that's all they'd need.

>>674508638
>look how much $ we piss away keeping a 1970s Air Force and a 1950s navy running.
I ain't your bud, pal

>>674507443
Oh, well in that case it makes perfect sense...forgot to take your meds again I see.

>>674508904
The US has come to rely on cheap Chinese imports, far more than China has come to rely on the US alone.

>>674500787
If you really think it would be that easy or a war like that would be anywhere near favored by the world community or even US citizens, youre fucking stupid. That shit would be total war and a complete nuclear crisis scare for South Korea. It would fuck up our economy. But go ahead so we can impeach him for the war crimes he would surely commit.

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>>674509440
holy fuck are you trolling? 1950's navy? are you fucking joking?

The U.S. has the most modern airforce and navy in the entire world. . .by leaps and bounds.

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/littoral/

>>674507069
Little dude. Of course it's bullshit.

To paraphrase a joke involving Iranians holding US hostages vs. newly elected president Ronald fucking Reagan:

What's dead and glows green in the night? North Korea ten minutes after Trump is in office.

The US proletariat is more than angry. They want blood, and lots of it.

>>674508880
You're on 4chan you fucking mong. Shitposting is what we do here.

>>674509279
no . .no they wouldn't.

Like i said, the ONLY thing keeping china afloat is trade with other richer countries.

The U.S. has a bustling industry of many differnt things. Sure it would hurt the U.S. but it would destroy China.

China as a country is actually very very poor with one of the lowest GDP per capitas in the world, there are countries in africa with higher GDP per capitas.

The U.S. on the other hand has the highest GDP per capita of any major country.

Go do some research on chinas economy before writing retarded shit like this.

Guys, lets all think about this like the economists and politicians we pretend to be on the Internet.

What does China gain from conquering North Korea? Barren swamp/wasteland and a bunch of starving people at the cost of soldiers. What does the US gain? Pretty much the same, but at the cost of alienating China, it's biggest trade partner.

What does China gain from aggressively siding with NK against the US? Alienating it's largest trade partner and not fuck much else besides upholding an ancient weird allegiance.

So instead, China will probably continue to mildly support NK, which slightly angers the US, but also keep it in check. The US will act as the guy at the party holding back both Japan and South Korea from getting into a fight neither of them actually want, and more North Koreans will starve as both sides try to work towards a solution, but they wont put too much on the table because even though NK is creepy, it's the kind of creepy where the guy in the ice cream van looks odd, and tries to sell your kids cigarettes, but he wont ever molest them, so really, who cares.

>>674508904
You realize this isn't 1999 anymore right?
China's own domestic demand eclipsed foreign 3 years ago.
China's been reducing their role in US trade for 6years.
US has been shipping production away from China to other developing nations for 8 years. China hasn't required US in supply or demand to function ever, but simply took the money for a couple decades, got the 1st world machinery, got the 1st world training, 1st world tech, and reiterates its position weekly as a short-term US trade partner, and long-term US military opponent, decreasingly on the former, increasingly on the latter for nearly a decade.

Keep telling yourself all anyone cares about is how much $ we currently have on paper.
USA is playing checkers, Russia and China are playing chess. These are nations that have histories of spending centuries breaking down their opponents to get the upper hand. They're 30 years in to one, and it's gone exactly as they hoped. USA has no long game.

>>674507527
>War is almost never needed, fighting is not the answer to every problem.

Has not using violence saved the lives of millions of North Korean children? Step up to the plate and be a statesman.

Kill a few dozen chink gangsters vs. save a generation of North Korean children? Come on, this one is simple.

China could deal with this in six months but they're so tangled in still fighting the Korean War that millions die so that they don't have to feel uncomfortable. The Great Leader would piss on all of them.

>>674500787
They fired it into the ocean.
This is not the first time they've done this.

It means nothing. It's no show of power.
The fact is,if they meant business, they'd bring business.

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>>674510656
And you realize China has no economy without trade with the U.S. and E.U right?

And when i say NO economy i mean fucking NOTHING.

The only thing going for china is their cheap labor

Even china knows this, that is why we will never in our lifetime see china try to sanction the U.S.

It is the U.S. who has china by the balls, not the other way around.

>>674510059
USAF here. Avionics tech. (That means I install and maintain the system that keep our jets and weapons in the air).

We have a motto. "NO NEW HOLES". This refers to all the holes drilled to mount 40 years worth of of upgrades to our (& the navy's) fighters.

We have a force of antiques, and a handful of money pits, and a gaggle of prototypes not intended to scale.

Have a look at when any plane you can think of was actually built. Be surprised.

>>674510275
How much of the US's foreign debt is held by China? The US could be brought to it's knees overnight if China flooded the market with US debt bonds. Moreover, China has very diverse trading partners, many of whom have already begun settling their accounts in non-US funds. If this expanded, the US dollar hegemony would crumble, as would the US.

If you think GDP per capita is the only way to look at the relative strength of each economy, you're the one who needs to start doing some research before making yourself look like an idiot.

>>674500787
>A few thousand broken windows had a way of focusing the population on why being stupid was bad.

And people wonder why people say trump fans are retards and he'll start ww3

>>674500787
THAAD

>>674511276
You're either illiterate or retarded.

Please tell us all about the danger of the USSR and the KGB agents preparing for a Soviet invasion next, you outdated old goof.

All of your conclusions are correct, they're just correct as of several years ago and are neither current nor relevant anymore.

Try to keep up, faggoteer.

>>674511503
only 8% of the U.S.'s debt is owned by china. Japan almost owns more U.S. debt than China does.

Any attempt for china to collect U.S. debt would hurt china more then it would the U.S.

It is you who needs to do the research, fucking retard.

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>>674500787
>Trump will fix that shit fast.
How? Please elaborate.

>>674511276
Did you bother reading the post?

I know it's hard to imagine the world not revolving around the US, but alas, it doesn't.

>>674511930
Please, tell me about the bustling industry that is not based off trade with richer nation that china has? Me and the rest of the world would like to know.

How many actual Chinese companies can you name? how many actual chinese products can you point out? none? thats what i thought.

Nearly every single thing china makes is for american or european countries and owned by american and and european countires. Take that away, and china has nothing.

>>674500787
This should be on /pol/

>>674505210
>famous and billionaire
>dumb
Back2reddit

>>674512639
/b/ is random you fucking faggot. I'd rather have a discussion about something like this with fewer neo Nazis but that's just me.

>>674510059
US Navy is just bloated, on a bunch of old WWII boats. With all their hundreds of billions, they couldn't even get past a single fucking French cruiser without getting their sub ID'd & sunk war gaming. Even the swedes beat you your Sub with a fucking little cruiser lol

US military is just an expensive jobs program, it sucks at actually doing its job.

WWI: y u no invite us?
WWII: thanks for all da monies brits, thanks for doin all the fighting ruskies
Korea: ok ok ceasefire. Let's create modern country North Korea, yay!
Iran: Fuck democracy Iran, project Ajax go! Hello radical Islam. Surely this will end well.
Vietnam: another stunning success
Desert Storm: it's ok let's leave saddam in power
9/11: lets attack Iraq and get saddam. I mean Afghanistan over 9/11.
Desert pleb: can we attack Iraq now, I herd saddam is there
US taxpayers: Where did all our money go? Why are we broke? I know, lets defund education!

lol

>>674511944
China owns $1.3 trillion in US debt (largest foreign amount). According to CNN, China sold a some debt in Sept. 2015. I read the article, many economists immediately worried the US's borrowing costs would be much higher if China showed little interest in buying more US debt (let alone continue the sell off).

China has cash reserves of approximately $3.6 trillion. The US has an estimated $120 trillion in unfunded liabilities.

Fucking ignoramus, you don't know your head from your ass.