>>674435340

caged mma

>>674435464
No fucking kek

UFC is the most brutal sport in the world. Fuck boxing football rugby and MMA ufc is the best.

>>674435576

why so? it's my personal opinion. what are your arguments?

> boxing for seven years
> broke my jaw in a fight
> cant chew or talk for shit
cant even take a punch anymore the fucking thing comes right off

>>674435717
>poorer training
>easier to hit your target, more options to attack as opposed to being forced to use only your hands. Think about it.
>homoerotic "ground game"
>athletes no where near as athletic as boxers
>in short a bunch of jacks of all trades, masters of none.
> and the most popular UFC fighter of all time is a PED cheat

>>674436116
Boxing's a fucking man sport.

>>674436166

That is some kind of point, but I like the way the mma is brutal in it's simple way. You can just use the simplest solution to a problem. This is my point of view because I have trained both boxing and mma. To make a point - my level is very amateur and I have never actually fought someone except for a training.

Also, I prefer jack of all trades master of none approach. I am a team leader in software engineering and this is professional point of view.

>>674435340
barehand boxing ? xD

>>674435340
Roman gladiator fighting to the death

>>674435340
Murderball

calvinball can be tougher, if you want.

Vale tudo

Play Russian Roulette everyday...a man's sport with a bullet called lies

>>674437494
> bare knuckle boxing

bareback boxing

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Ultimate fireball

lol ever heard of karate? in karate we punch through wood, and no we dont use gloves when we do it, we're not pussys like boxers and dont need gloves

i can knock out a man with two fingers, with 5 fingers i can knock out a horse

>2keks16
>not doing e-sports

>>674438856
Implying any karate practitioner can generate more pounds per square inch than a professional boxer

chess.

you can put your eye out if you fall asleep

>>674438856
First of all, prove it. You sound like someone who has never been in a fight. Second karate (or any martial arts) involves agility and strength. However I have never seen a martial arts fighter last more than 3rounds in the ring. And even Bruce Lee said, there is no punch that can compare to a boxers fist.

Motocross.. Most physically demanding sport in the world

>>674439258
Happens more often than you think

>>674439432
HA!! GAAAAAAAYYYY

>>674439432
Driving in a circle for 5 hours is more grueling than that

>>674438856
You don't use gloves because you guys hit likes pussies and have no chance of breaking your hands when you punch because you're hands are as soft as a muffin. Kovalev would krush you and every black belt out there.

COD

>>674435340
brazilian jiu-jitsu

>>674439825
> in a boxing match

True

>>674435340
Competitive testicle kicking

>>674436166
>> and the most popular UFC fighter of all time is a PED cheat
Who ?

>>674439566
>>674439774
Facts bros, prove me wrong.

>>674439892
As someone who has been a student in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for several years, and as someone who takes his younger brother to a boxing gym 5 days a week, I can say that neither is honestly more brutal or manly than the other. Each has it's own way of doing things.

Calcio di Firenza

>>674436166
>>poorer training
Not related to "toughness"
>>easier to hit your target, more options to attack as opposed to being forced to use only your hands. Think about it.
Not related to "toughness"
>>homoerotic "ground game"
Not related to "toughness"
>>athletes no where near as athletic as boxers
Not related to "toughness"
>>in short a bunch of jacks of all trades, masters of none.
Not related to "toughness"

>>674439943
I would hope a black belt could win in a karate tournament against a boxers. But in the street Kovalev will krush you and Bruce Lee in 2 punches

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This again

>>674440368
All related to toughness you're just retarded.

>>674440368
Depends on what you mean by toughness.

Italian karate
Hey!

>>674435340
Muay Thai

>>674435340
Muay Thai

>>674440529
Was that a TKD guy?

>>674435340
>Name a sport tougher than boxing
>>protip: you can't.
calcio fiorentino

>>674440452
Fedor would wipe the floor with him

>>674440452
Who is this Kovalev and why are you on his dick? Also, I doubt he's as quick as Bruce Lee was.

>>674440233
the spider

>>674439432
Finally someone who knows what's up!

>>674440452
You ride kovalevs nuts don't you?

Aaand here comesss the heavyyyyyweight chaaaampionnnn of the woooooorld

MIKE
..THE KID DYNAMITE
TYSONNNNNNN

>>674440724
Kek fuck no.


>>674440809
>google

>>674435661
It certainely used to be before they added all the rules
The first rules were not to hit the eyes and not to bite
Still pretty violent nowdays

>>674440452

boxing is for thugs and blue-collars while karate is for classy and smart men like me, if kovalev "krushed" me the only thing crushed would be his career after i take him to court for attempting to murder me

>>674440529
Insane doumawashi m8

>>674440982
In a street fight you take a light heavyweight boxer over one of the best heavyweight street fighters in the world!

Thats bait

>>674438856

What could you knock out with ten fingers?

>>674440646
literally all other combat sports now fuck off and quit making this thread you collossal dickhead.

>>674440555
>athletes no where near as athletic as boxers
>toughness

"muh I can't see dem muscles, this is not a tough sport"

There are a lot of websites you can browse to see naked athletic men, faggot, why don't you go there instead of complaining here ?

>>674435340
Define tougher
You mean name a sport where peoples faces look more like mashed potatoes than boxing or the fuck do you mean

>>674441255

5 men or 2 horses

>>674435340

Tabletennis

>>674435340
Hockey

>>674441137
Honestly, karate is one of the least useful martial art to be in a fight with. Aikido is more practical.

>>674440826
I'm a noob, but I watched yesterday the fight where Silva get KO by Chris Weidman, this is fucking hilarious.

He was an arrogant fuck and got what he fucking deserved.

Anyway, why do you call him a cheat ??

>>674441200
The guy who has killed a person with his fist before

Aka Sergey Kovalev

>>674438569
This and kek'd

>>674438856
>in karate
>I can knouck out a man with two fingers
>two fingers
>5 fingers
>I can knock out a horse
>We punch through wood
>We're not pussys like boxers and dont need gloves

Mate you sound like a fucking idiot, 3rd dan blackbelt kyokushinkai here, what style of karate, and everyone can knock someone out with 2 fingers, poke him in the eyes.

>>674435340


War.


I win.

>>674441538
> karate is one of the least useful martial art to be in a fight with. Aikido is more practical.
Are you fucking stupid?

>>674441564
>Concussion, ok take ten seconds to get your wits back. Repeat 6 times, die

Thats not tuff, just stupidity

>>674441255

Probably JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHN CEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>674441564
Look up how many boxers die in the ring vs your fag loving ass champ.

>>674441549
Got popped for roids more than once.

>>674436166
This reallly doesn't address the claim.

A better example is the fact boxers take more *sustained* abused. No rest in grappling on the ground, the gloves are heavier. You either eat punchers or get a count.

No one has ever died in UFC. About 5-6 boxers die a year.

>>674440230
Lost

>>674441750
I can list the number of ufc fighters that use karate on 1 finger

>>674435340
pillow fighting

>>674441684
Trips said.

Chess

hockey. There's fighting/boxing in it with no gloves and it's also a real fucking sport. Fighting with pillows on your hands on a rubber floor is the safest thing I've ever heard in my life. Razor sharp blades on ice with wooden sticks and 7 foot body builders punching each other in the face? sport

>>674442063
Bas Rutten?

>>674441972
>No one has ever died in UFC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatalities_in_mixed_martial_arts_contests
Are you fucking stupid? you have the internet

>>674442186
Check the fatality rates on both.
Idiot.

The gloves make it more dangerous.

>>674441630

whatever style they teach in scotland

>>674442063
>To be in a fight with
Are you fucking kidding me you idiot, are you saying the ufc is a real fight?
What does it prove that noone in the ufc does karate?

>>674442270
Further proving the point that boxing is more dangerous.

have any of you betas ever wrestled before

>>674442325
Scotland is a large place, if you are ready to break real wood you should atleast know what style of karate you do, it's literally the most basic thing

You're right. In a real fight a baseball bat would be involved

>>674442586
Only fags watch gay porn

>>674441750

>Are you fucking stupid?

no he is prolly just punch drunk from trying to use karate in a fucking street fight.

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>>674442186
>no gloves

>Fighting with pillows on your hands on a rubber floor is the safest thing I've ever heard

mass + speed = power, right? So what exactly do you expect with a few extra ounces on your hands? Boxing Gloves were literally designed to prevent grappling.

>>674442063
http://forum.mixedmartialarts.com/thread/1839375/List-of-the-top-Karate-based-MMA-fighters
Fucking idiot, you have the internet you know

I did Muay Thai for 2 years at a gym and its brutal stuff, broke 3 toes, 2 fingers and my nose. Fought some boxers while there and they can definitely hit harder in general. If only punches are allowed boxers usually win, if kicks and knees are allowed Muay Thai usually wins.

>>674441549
Popped for roids, claimed that was viagra. One of his brazilion interviews, you can clearly see syringes in his bathroom. Those syringes were for PEDs

>>674442186

>pillows

8 oz gloves to protect the bones in the hand.

Grabbing a person by their shirt and pummelling them does not a fight make.

Being big doesnt mean your punch is any stronger. A 185 pound boxer could punch harder than a 225 untrained steroid monkey and would probably literally kill him if the fight lasted more than 3 minutes.

>>674442270
>in UFC
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatalities_in_mixed_martial_arts_contests

>no UFC

idiot.

>>674436166
you fight someone and he throws you on ground and starts punching you, joke on him because its homoerotic.

>>674442586
I have, but boxing is harder. I made it to states in wrestling though. That is a tough sport, but boxing is harder because it not only requires inexhaustible cardio, but being able to be punched in the face.

>>674441549
Why do you think his leg snapped? We wasnt drinking his milk?

>>674442586
I've wrestled played football and boxed professionally for a few years before I got 3 concussions in 3 fights in a row (I'm on boxrec and everything). I do MMA now for fun.

Wrestling and boxing are by far the 2 toughest sports I've ever performed. Its not even close. The training alone in both sports blow out the actual fights in MMA.

>>674443023
Kek

>>674442717
Do you even do a martial art? everyone who is above basic level knows you don't literally use the martial art you practice in a streetfight, it just helps you in a fight

>>674437494
Is safer than boxing with gloves

>>674438226
Their only good album

>>674443023
ground and pound dat ass

>>674441630
where you from bro? my team is related to holland kyokushin

>>674442853
>to protect the bones in the hand

nope, to prevent grappling.
The fact your knuckles fuck up a tiny bit less often is only a consequence of this. Boxers break their hands all the time.

>>674443044
The point of boxing is to NOT get hit.

>>674443091
definitely. I'm probably biased towards wrestling but I think the technique and like physical prowess needed make it the toughest, but it doesn't require the same get hit in the face mentality.

>>674443196
>do u even martial art bruh

>>674442974
Most on that list are from the ufc you dumbass
If you actually read the list and didnt just browse over the title you would know
dumbass

>>674442745
Kinetic Energy = half mass*velocity^2

Increase the time it takes for the full punch to land (through padding on gloves) = less energy transfer = weaker immediate impact. It's basic physics dipshit

>>674443352
IKO kyokushin related here
What's your kyuu?

>>674443454
>being so beta
Stop talking about martials arts if you don't do it m8

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>>674442615

ever heard of desmond mcbridge aka mad dezzy? probably no but he was my karate couch and thought me how to knock out men with two fingers

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>>674443023
ayy lmao

>>674442745
stfu nigger they take the gloves off to punch each other in the face why do you think they all have black eyes and no teeth

>>674443754
Faggit im a black belt in jew shitsu

>>674435340
darts

>>674443877
Because being a "tough guy" is different from being a fighter.

>>674442745
Boxing gloves were designed to protect the boxers hands dumb ass.

>>674443765
Looks like a nut sack and again prove it you dick rider

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>>674435340
MMA easily

>>674440529
Brutal

>>674435340
>Name a sport tougher than boxing
>
>>protip: you can't.
How about kickboxing? Punching AND kicking?

>>674444023
>Being so beta it starts to hurt

>>674444444 get

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>>674443765

>>674444113
No faggit

Juggling

>>674444254
Yes faggit

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>wrestling
Reminder that if a wrestler and a boxer get in a street fight the wrestler will win almost every time

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>>674443765
This man can do it with just his pinky

>>674443634
i do mma, but our striking style comes from kyokushin, i had one seminar with 10dan kyokushin master

>>674444358
No faggit. Boxing takes a giant shit on MMA

>>674444082
the players on the philadelphia flyers and boston bruins both all have boxing training

>>674444323
Yeah, that's it.

>>674443765
The picture is unrelated? and no I havent, cant find anything on google either, reverse image search the picture and I get a 2nd dan in shukokai ryu, stuart maxwell

>>674444429
No he won't lol.

Only a retard who has never gotten into a street fight before would think it would be wise to use a fighting style that intentionally throws themselves on the floor. What are you retarded?

>>674444199
Im hard as fuck fam, keep pushing me and ill be forced to beeat you off bruv. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

>>674444429
>street fight
I'm pretty sure atleast one of them pulls out a gun

>>674444447
Nope doing to a comrade is not real. Seems like bullshit. Also 4*x6!!

>>674441007
there's always freefighting

>>674443422
And when you do, you have to take it. You can't even push them away with your arms.

>>674443517
>through padding on gloves)
Who says the padding doesn't contribute to the punch? I've seen and achieved KO's just by grazing someone's head.

Have you actually worn a boxing glove, btw?
The padding around the knuckles is rather firm when the fist is balled, and it really isn't that much thicker compared to a UFC glove

>>674442745
also point was to find the TOUGHEST not the best at fighting faggot
>>674444082

>>674444547
>i had one seminar with 10dan kyokushin master
Jon Bluming? He's a thug and got kicked out of IKO

>>674444112

aight gimme your email bro and ill send ya a picture of me and dezzy after i won a karate tournament but the pic is in my mums gaff im in my friends gaff atm

>>674444823
Yes beat me off you faggot!

>>674435340

http://www.badlefthook.com/2015/11/6/9680738/new-study-reveals-that-boxing-is-more-dangerous-than-mma

Boxing is more dangerous than MMA

Boxing is a very cruel sport it will expose who you really are.

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>>674444740
>intentionally throws himself on the floor
>implying wrestlers don't know how to handle themselves on the ground
You really don't know what you're talking about do you? Have you even wrestled? A boxer couldn't do shit when he gets taken to the ground with a wrestler that actually knows what he's doing, and it wouldn't be hard to do at all since boxing focuses above the waist

>>674444740
omfg. there are boxers in mma, they fucking train a lot to not get taken down. pure boxers dont know shit about it. wrestlers would win, judoka would win, BJJ would win. against boxer.

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>>674444554
Yeah, not really. Boohoo you get punched with 10 ounce gloves. Try 4 ounce gloves, getting hit with a heel in the head, knees and elbows.

>>674444628

Being trained in boxing doesnt mean that your chosen time and place to punch someone makes the training ideal.

Hip movement and footwork are fundamental to throwing a proper punch. Both of which are hindered when staning on blades in ice. There's a reason boxers dont put on ice skates to fight.

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>Madingo fighting

Prove me wrong

>>674444827
Well shit true that

>>674445025
Video of it actually happening not a picture you twat

>>674444960
Henk Kuipers

>>674445085

>I have never been in or witnessed a street fight: the post.

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>>674445085

Here's your wrestler being a pussy

Easy, Tennis.

>>674435340
Thai boxing

>>674445327
>I only watch le ghetto wurllstarr street fights between niglet and niggie tiggie: the shitpost

>>674445145
>this
I'm a boxer but I recognize that I couldn't stand a chance against someone who could floor me

>>674445157
>4oz gloves because they punch like women and don't risk breaking their hands with every punch like boxers do

Try harder.
Boxing is a mans sport MMA is an MMMeme.

>>674445334
>This
Hard af

Most kinds of professional bicycling.

>>674445520
4/10. Try again.

>>674444094
Not, they really weren't lmao.
During the days of John L. Sullivan, there was a serious problem of boxers resorting to wrestling. Many didn't even bother with gloves until they were mandatory.

Notice how you can barely grasp anything with them?

>>674445029
Ill doo it you know, you wont like me when im angry. Ill beat you off soooo bad the only way you'll be able to reproduce after will be with a fucking mop and bucket.

im just tooo fucking hard for u fam, ill destroy you. You should seemy muscles. I can tow a fucking a fucking truck with just the power of one wrist.

>>674445566
u wot? lower ounce means less padding? are you baiting or what?

>>674445560
Then you just suck at fighting in general.

>>674438355
Underrated

>>674445324
Jon is the only one with a 10th dan in the kyokushinkai ryu..

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What is this fighting style?

>>674445560
becouse thats how that works, they all say streetfights are different, but i dont see in what, maybe groin shots and eye pokes, rest is 95% mma. respect to you fagot

>>674445749
remove that questionmark

>>674435340
1942 Germany

>>674445749
Less padding because they punch like women dumbass.

>>674445720
Again, you're retarded

>>674445330
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InJHbcb6pN8

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>>674445566
Damn took the first b8 but this one was too obvious. Sill got 1 reply GJ.

>>674445807
>I don't see the difference between ufc and a street fight


Get outside more often kid.

>>674435340
knife fighting

>>674445805
Fake style.

>>674445805
The art of "staging"

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Blisters bro

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OP said "tougher sport" and you faggots are debating who punches harder? look this faggot is spitting out his KIDNEY or some fucking thing.

>>674445566
Ain't no padding when someone heel kicks you in the chin, faggot.

>>674445795
i dont know. Henk is said to be a Oyama's right hand. the creator of kyokushin karate. i dont care much. i believe he is legit. he is old and could fucking break a wall with his fist.

>>674435661
back in the nineties of so before dana white owned UFC there were no weight classes they were interesting to say the least

>>674446191
that is i horn you stupid newfag

>>674445957
And I guarantee you've never opened a boxing history box or sparred in the ring in your life.

>>674446191
If only he knew karate

He could have knocked it out

>>674446191
>>674444323
MOAR!!!

>>674446324
*history book

>>674435340
war

>>674446314
that is mouthguard doods

>>674446092
teach me faggot. i compete in MMA. never seen anything i couldnt handle in streetfight.

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>>674446326
With 2 fingers no less

>>674446447
Terrorism?

>>674446324
I've boxed. Professionally. The hand wraps are there to protect your wrist. The gloves are for your knuckles. I don't need a history box to know this. Its common sense.

>>674445659
>I only watch le ghetto wurllstarrstreet fights between niglet and niggie tiggie: the shitpost

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Not trying to be a troll, but Tennis is the ultimate tough sport. Unlike a boxer or mixed martial artist:
1.) A tennis player is not guaranteed a paycheck unless he wins.
2.) A tennis player has to pay for all his traveling expenses.
3.) A tennis player cannot be coached while playing a professional game.
4.) A tennis player usually will not win with one or two lucky shots, unlike a boxer or mixed martial artist who often win with lucky blows.

>>674446092
your just inexperienced at fighting

>>674446662
4/10

river dancing

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Pro wrestling because it requires more than just strength etc etc and you are on the road no breaks for nearly the entire year.

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>>674446326
Top kek

>>674445334
Backing this also.

High level tennis is the most physically demanding of all sports.

>>674446677
A tennis player dosen't risk brain damage and major injuries.

PRIDE, not the gay kind.... Google it

>>674446268
Hes 8th dan, pretty neat you had a seminair with him

>>674446813
that's like saying being in a traveling jump rope show is harder than boxing

>>674446919
Pride is kill

>>674446648
>muh common sense
Then why did so many boxers not bother with the gloves until they were mandatory?

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>>674446677
5.) A tennis player must defeat atleast 5 players within a week just to win a tournament.
6.) A tennis match often lasts more than two hours.
7.) Tennis is played outdoors, often in the scorching hot sun. Unlike boxing and mma, which is played in the airconditioning.

>>674435661
boxing is still more dangerous than UFC, using the small UFC gloves means TBI is way less likely. Less mass to rattle your brain around in your head.

UFC is not more brutal in my opinion- but it is far better.

I think muay thai takes the toughness. Thai fighters are incredibly tough. They just take damage and don't go down.

I'm forgetting the fight- search Lawrence Kenshin muay thai vs kickboxing for a great analysis on a fight. The thai guy get's his jaw broken and it doesn't even phase him.

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>>674447068
Speed and habits.

>>674437715
Underrated

>>674446975
But that's not what I'm saying.They go at it every few months with so much down time whilst the others perform several times a week usually whilst having to down time to heal, thus leading to it being more tougher. I guarantee you it's a lot easier to become a boxer than a full fledged pro wrestler.

>>674447182
8) tennis is fucking gay

>>674447068
because it was over 50 years ago

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>>674446677
>luck

>>674447243
Boxing is more dangerous because the dumfucks get concussed and then get a chance to go in and fight and get more brain damage. When you get concussed in MMA it's over. The dumb rules are the only reason why boxing is more dangerous.

>>674446968
train in basicly half empy gym with no trainer. to beat the best mma guys in my country. with hopes i get a contract in holland under these guys

>>674447243
people get knocked out all the time in kick boxing

Russian knight fighting,

Mma cage fights

>>674440452
I like Kovalev, but he is pretty damned formal. A manic depressive pikey with tourettes threw him off of his game. There are other boxers who would be better in an unrestricted Street fight.

Are you a German?

>>674435340
Name a faggot more gay than OP
>protip: you can't

>>674442822
did you ever fight? If you sustained those injuries from training alone- you were in a gym full of fucking idiots. Even in thailand they don't spar hard. The point is not to hurt yourself training- but to train to fight.

>>674447638
Which pikey?

Naw I'm american. I think GGG or someone like Ruslan Provodnikov would be better I'm a street fight. But Kovalev is a boss.

>>674447637
>knight fighting

Shit sounds tough, do you mean like jousting and shit.

>>674447313
your comparison between any boxer and a pro wrestler is irrational. With that being said you are possibly stupid for not considering the fact that boxers train every day in between fights, well the ones that don't suck any way. I am under the impression that you are making your argument just because and that you don't actually believe what you are saying. Pro wrestlers is retarded it is the same line of sport as balet or gymnastics, or even closer to theatre

>>674447291
Right, so they'd risk ravaging knuckles over and over again, potentially ruining their career, over a little extra speed and habit?

If you were a little more insightful, you'd acknowledge that 90% of preventing breaking your hand is proper form and where you land.

>>674447530
Timothy Bradley getting a concussion in the 1st round against ruslan Provodnikov and managing to pick himself up to win>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>anything Connor ever did

>>674435340
Define tougher, in skill or in brutality.

UFC > Boxing in both but there are sports that require more skill than both

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>>674447182
8.) A tennis player will average 5 miles throughout the course of just one match, where a boxer or mma will only only walk about half a mile.
9.) A tennis player is forced to ALWAYS play the best opponent, unlike boxing where a lot of boxers will avoid fighting the best challenger (i.e. Mayweather never fighting anyone good or in their prime)

>>674447576
If you debut in holland good luck with that, I'm also in holland, I've only done full contact championships so far, might try to debut in pro mma, that'd be neat

>>674445775
It really sounds like you don't know what you're talking about

>>674447815
you generally aren't trying to knock someone unconscious every time you spar

Easy. Ballet.

>>674447850
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvNzQ1fWURE

>>674435340
Street luge.

Mountain unicycling.

There you go, I just named two.

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>>674448031
>Implying Overrated, overpromoted Conor is the best or close to the best MMA fighter of all time.

Just shows how ignorant you are to MMA

>>674448097
And how many people died in UFC recently?

>>674447951
Bare knuckle fighters never threw blows at each others heads like boxers do now a days, and if they did, it was not even at 50% of their strength. Yes it is mostly form and landing zone, but doesn't change the fact that if I hit you full force with my left to your liver my any of the tiny bones in my hand will break.

>>674440529
that ref is a fucking white fat lard ass loser

>>674448231
You shouldn't be trying to knock someone out at all during sparring. At that point- you should be in a ring.

>>674448483
You have internet dipshit, look it up

>>674448196
ill be on 'its hardcore time' event in update club. in november ;) its at holland/germany borders

>>674448097
No boxing takes the cake in both.