but muhh freedoms

>>673548645
They should ban guns same as they banned drugs, that got rid of drugs once and for all.....
Oh wait!

>>673548645
ITT euro fag cucks who will be the first to fall once world war 3 begins.

>>673548645
scotland doesnt have niggers

>>673548645
So they created a Hegelian Dialect to ban guns, killed a bunch of kids to promote their message, and you're proud of this?

You're as fucking blind as most Amerifags.

Take away the guns and you'll see more school bombings

Yeah, too bad America hasn't had a legitimate school shooting since Columbine.

Also, Shall not be infringed.

>>673550793
well youre a fucking idiot

>>673551019
most random shootings are from craggas.

>>673551491
the fuck you talking about

amerifats thinking that civilians with guns would make any kind of difference on the front lines of a war

>>673548645
In a country that barely owned any guns and no culture surrounding them

>>673548645
you don't need a hand gun to commit a school shooting. there's obviously something else that prevents this from happening. maybe its because UK public schools are so horrible that shooting one on up would be like shitting in a trash can?

>>673551800
As opposed to the American school system which is amazing obviously.

>>673551939
horrible inner city schools seldom ever get shot up. its always the peaceful ones

>>673551519
yes but its a niggers carring illegal guns makes that nessary evil

>>673550947
You do understand in the UK we still have guns you absolute mongoloid.

>>673551645
we dont think that at all

>>673551645
Europussies who've never held a firearm and think they are safe inside their own little bubble

>>673548645
didnt the IRA shoot up a boxing match not to long ago

also bait thread and all you niggers just got caught

>>673548645
it may have stopped school shootings, but this picture doesnt give you any other statics about the community afterwards. maybe other crimes went up or something

>>673551667
Actually there is a hunting culture around guns. And when pistols were banned there were quite large protests. You guys are literally just saying things when the evidence is contradicting you.

Sure America is a different country but it might turn out better than you guys think.

But then we had the attacks in Paris. And France has some of the tougher gun control laws. Did that stop them? Nope, just smuggled them in.


Prohibition of Firearms won't work. Instead regulate them a bit more. Mental Health Checks, Background Search, Classes to be required for ownership, including consequences of use.

>>673552242
right and redneck hunters never shoot up schools. its always the pasty urban kids

Remember that time Australia had to unban their guns because their murder rate skyrocketed?

>>673552242
Theres not a nigger problem

>>673552123
>Ireland
>civilised

OP forgot about The Game.

There will always be psychos because there are always psychos trying to turn other people into psychos.

BREAK THE CYCLE

>>673552476
ireland is becoming an islam celiphate soon anyways. there will be even tighter gun controls in place then

>>673552358
the type of kids on 4chan

>>673552675
not going to argue there

>>673550947
What fucking world war you stupid demented spastic? There isn't a fucking war, there's you fat useless yank cunts shooting each other's fucking children every day. Fucking idiot

>>673552358
I'm talking about the UK, we don't have rednecks you dumb fuck.
>>673552413
I never even mentioned niggers

>>673550947
We just need Ethnic bioweapon to cleanse warmongers like you. there will be no ww3 with you lot dead.

>>673552322
That's some fucking bullshit right there, because if every country actually fucking understood to have civilized laws and fucking gun control you wouldn't find guns to smuggle in anywhere you fucking dipshit

>>673552967
>we don't have rednecks you dumb fuck.
yeah you just gypsies and meth heads instead

>>673553069
>IF THE WORLD WERE PERFECT, NO ONE WOULD EVER GET HURT
of course, but we live in the real world princess

>>673551019
we do and pakis and slavs and fucking turks and everything else they mostly own corner shops or takeawayas and are generaly quite nice as they know if they start there pish theres gonna be trouble

>>673550947
>implying civilians with guns will impact the war
>implying nukes can be stopped by rednecks with their shotguns

>>673553230
forgot rednecks i am one :D

>>673553290
its not the war, its the occupation after the war where civilian militias and weapon caches become problematic

>>673548645
How many school shootings were there before?

>>673551509
You'er an ignorant turd. When has anyone ever murdered someone with a registered hand gun? They steal them or obtain them illegally. Banning guns wont solve anything. People will still obtain them illegally or find other ways to kill people.

>>673548645
Yep. Now your school stabbing rates have skyrocketed.

>>673552053
>seldom get shot up
>this nigga serious
They get classified as gang violence and ignored as anything else related to nigger crime.

>>673551019
You've never been to scotland. Its the entire country. They just aren't black.

To be fair, there were no school shootings *Before* Dunblane either. Even back when guns were unregulated in the UK. You can't really say that banning pistols (You can have a .22 pistol if it has a long barrel and a "counterweight" hanging from the pistol grip to make it a certain length) has prevented school shootings when, in the 150 years between repeating firearms being invented and now, there's only been 1 school shooting.

>>673553085
Yeah and they don't own guns you mongoloid. Gypsies fucking fight with their fists. probably too poor and dumb to get guns.

>>673553405
The enemy will have better guns, proper training, proper equipment, tactics etc. etc.

Your guns give you the illusion of safety, much like airport security.

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>>673548645
But we can still own all of this.

You know what? We should ban guns! Then all of the people that came here legally and obey the law will turn them in, then the thugs and blacks won't have any resistance when trying to rob people. Solid plan, like when they made drugs illegal!

>>673553290
>thinking that anyone is going to use nukes for anything other than a tool for intimidation and deterrence
>being this retarded

>>673553574
>implying inner city nigger kids care enough about their schools to shoot them up
they shoot up people on the streets, where they feel like they belong. white people don't feel any connection to the street, so they shoot up where they're supposed to be at that age; their schools

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How come whenever there's a school shooting it's always the guns, video games, violent music, ct ect that gets blamed

Maybe instead of banning guns look into the education system?

Cramming thousands of confused hormonal teenagers into small buildings with strict prison like schedules and bitter regressive authority figures. for like 8-10 hours for 5 days a week (a full time job) on top of home work.

And they think access to weapons are the sole reason these kids are killing each other.

>>673553685
>civilian resistance has no history of success
tell the french that. and thats a country where only a small portion owned guns at the time and certainly didn't have gun rallies or trained militias

>>673553069
This is literally the dumbest thing i've ever read. Yes ban guns in America because everyone else will also ban guns and then we can't smuggle them in. BECAUSE YOU KNOW, MEXICAN CARTELS ARE JUST SO EAGER TO THROW DOWN THEIR WEAPONS

>>673553709
>semi-auto .22 or manual .223
Why live

>>673551645
they absolutely would. overwhelming an opponent with cannon fodder is a legitimate tactic. in an actual war between two countries armed civilians would be invaluable, especially during an invasion.

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>>673553592
All my keks

>>673553762
>this white lib cuck still trying to tell me what happens in inner city schools
Tell you what, come to baltimore and I'll give you a seat so you can feel safe inside one of them school.

>>673553480
or bombing

>>673553728
>thinking that nukes are still going to be used as a deterrent after WW3 breaks out

>>673553896
.223 and up, but hay It's better then nothing.

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I'm australian and I don't even agree with this shit. We had private ownership of guns and highest massacre by one person until bjorn but our shooter used stolen guns. Arthur Bryant. Pic related my guns I own privately also haven't shot up a school

>>673553966
thank messiah allah

>>673553952
you're not going to get shot inside the school, just beat the fuck up. then they'll follow you home to shoot you and your parents. different crimes

>>673553861
>small portion had guns
proving my point that guns don't have as much impact as you think

>>673553909
>fuck you cos meatshield

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>>673548645
And further down the rabbit hole you go. Guns are a necessary evil.

>>673551645
You are fucking stupid Americans dont think like that

>>673554100
thats more to do with the idea that they didnt have a gun culture. they still were completely capable of stealing guns from old army storage, from the enemy or accept aid from nearby allies. you clearly don't know shit, why are you even in this conversation?

>>673553979
If someone actually uses nukes everyone is going to lose their fucking minds and whoever used them first is going to get nuked right back. It's like you don't even know about MAD.

>>673553709
There's a lot of restrictions that that doesn't even come close to covering. (You can own a M1911 chambered in .22 if you want, it is possible. )

The thing with us is that it is possible to own all that stuff, but it's so incredibly hard. To own a gun takes so many steps, and require an actual need to use them. Sure, that can just be for sport, but anything more than normal rifles and shotguns takes a ridiculous license. (Stage 5 I believe, which can be obtained for serious security guards, people who need them for filming things like brainiac etc.)

You don't see them in any serious number because of this, meaning they're less likely to fall in to the hands of people who would use them incorrectly.

This b8 is turrible. Everyone I have met from the UK wishes they could have guns.

>>673553855
I think we should just make kids illegal and sterilise everyone at birth. That would solve most problems within 50 years. After a while everyone would be to old to commit violence and even further down the line there would be no people around to commit crime. Problem solved!

Atleast that is probably the logical conclusion an A.I would come to before whiping us out.

>>673553530

what is a saturday night special?

>>673554455
Lets do it anon

>>673554169
>i think its cool to sell knives to kids
Just because retailers are overzealous in protecting their asses doesnt endager 'muh free market' regulation is a part of civilisation

>>673551598
legitimate. as in not staged

>>673554529
Its a cheap shitty gun intended for a one time use

>>673548645

In 1997 someone in my neighborhood stole a pack of mints from a mini market.

The govna decided to ban mints from all shops, and no one has ever stolen mints since.

>>673554431
I will agree there are walls to jump, like the back ground checks, police interviews and the fact that you need to know two people for more then two years that own guns and all the other shit.

>>673554587
Holy fuck anon you can't just blow the entire conspiracy wide open with only two posts like that.

>>673553451
Ok so why haven't there been any/much shootings in uk since the ban?

>>673554267
still proving my point, civilians don't need guns beforehand

>>673554953
because your government has accomplished that goal, they now they want you to think its working so they dont stage any more shootings

>>673554093
>still trying to tell me what would happen
Nigga, now you are just being disrespectful.

>>673555059
and you dont need freedom.

>>673548645
In authoritarian countries you mean? Don't get me wrong, I admire a lot about Europe and in fact at the end of the day I think you faggots might have more of the right idea on many things than we do. But it's not a matter of Murrica being uncivilized. It's just a very different culture here. A gun ban simply wouldn't fly, period.

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>>673552078
no you don't

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>>673548645
Check the stabbing statistics

>>673552804
kids are over rated

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The government of England gets its authority from the Queen (who gets hers from god), the US government gets its authority through its citizens.
The British are subjects, Americans are...well Americans.

>>673553069
while you're at it, wish for a pony

>>673555127
Aaaaand the Acadamy Shill Detecting award goes to......

Anon you buttcucking faggot get up here

>>673548645
If it's so easy to legally get guns in the US, then why do people have unregistered weapons? That's because it's illegal and they operate under the radar and if we ban guns, illegal things wont cease because it's still going to be under the radar.

>>673556591
Triggered

>>673553230
Lol buying shit from the pakishops, way the go you are feeding their 18 children.

Any non paki muslim shop get looted 5 times a day until they go bankrupt.
The shops are empty because no one want them any more and only 1 muslim gets a shop tunneling all the money away from the natives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2dcciQIJEw

>>673554455
I'm sure niggers and sandniggers would find a way to breed like rabbits anyway. Maybe they'd start budding.

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>>673553480
Daily beatings

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>>673556591
>tfw most americans still think the founding fathers wrote the constitution as dictated by yahweh when they were atheist/agnostic

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Gun confiscation, just another power grab by lying politicians.

>>673556745
Well but it will be so much easier to spot an illegal weapon if all of them are

>>673554100
Yeah, but people with guns have a large impact. Keeping civilians in line without mass murder is hard, and to commit mass murder makes it easier for your opposition to receive support from other countries and what not.

>>673556894
>all the white people should be dead
Shit mudslimes hear at the dinner table

>>673556591
>authority from the Queen

>>673551645
Seems to work in the middle east.

>>673551645
Go cry to Switzerland.

>>673554002
How hard is to get a weapon license there?

ITT: We pretends it's easier to keep weapons from crossing the boarder from a criminal nation, than the north sea.

>>673557132
its not even white people its anyone who isn't them.

>>673550793
what the actual fuck? does this really make sense in your stupid fucking head?

>>673551645
Nobody deploys civilians to the front line you stupid cuck. Civilians are kept contained in captured territory, and if you had any idea what a resistance was, you would know most capable militaries hunt them for a reason as they can be very pesky and cause a lot of damage if not kept in line.

>>673557264
The problem with that post is that on military bases people are not carrying guns unless they are military police. You are not free to carry weapons on a US military base unless your unit is going to the range and personal weapons also cannot be carried.

>>673556980
ironic, how the people who protest the loudest for muh gunz are the same people who are obviously too retarded to be allowed to have them.

>>673552804
Be on the brink of massive pan-european civil war. Keep criticizing the people you'll ask for help on the second coming of the ottoman empire, which will actually reach you this time since you're siphoning them to you at record speeds with cheeks spread.

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'Gun laws in the USA will never change, especially after it became obvious that the murder of small children was acceptable'

>>673548645
Yeah but I bet they're being flooded by Mexican drug cartels and mudslime terror groups

>>673556894
One asian person bullies a white kid to death.

Lots of Asians bullied constantly by white people and no one gives a shit.

>inb4 chink spotted

Keep in mind; the United States have a larger population and more different kinds of communities than Scotland. Banning guns won't help the states, but recognizing mental illness is a problem will do more good. Blaming guns is like saying spoons made you fat. It's the person, not the object.

>>673557063
Not really. You're probably not gonna see them because people know they are even worse to have now and easier to spot so they will try harder to hide it.

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>>673557854
When in fact, the overwhelming majority of gun owners are law abiding and productive citizens.

You thumb suckers are projecting a lot of your own instability and neurosis on everybody else. This is why we have a constitution to prevent whiny faggots like you and your silly phobias from taking away our god given rights.

>>673558319
It is in Britain, even martians would be asians to them , they are talking about groups of muslim

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>>673548645
Do Scotland share any of its borders with Mexico?

>>673558828
True. Probably a paki so technically asian

>>673558734

>god given rights

exactly which part of the bible are you referring to?

>>673558563

if a child cant play with a toy properly you take the toy off them.

america is a country full of children and guns should be taken off you until you can learn to stop shooting up classroooms full of your offspring.

First of all, I don't give a single fuck about what you faggots think about gun control, the real cause of school shootings is autism. Not a single school shooter could be considered a functioning human being before colapsing and shooting shit up.
Now let's get to business, where and how can I get an fn p90 shipped to me in Brazil? Should I try onion sites? I know some people working at Merchant navy, my country's borders wouldn't be an issue

>>673548645
>no shootings
>scotland has the biggest school STABBING massacre on record (not trolling)
>way to go, micks

>>673557264
too bad that's incorrect and you're a retard for posting it

>>673559400
Maybe you shouldn't and just let natural selection do its job

>>673548645
Just FYI: Andy Murray was at that school when it happened. He was in one of the temporary classrooms outside.

>>673554734
newfag here, let me chime in

Columbine:
>Immediately on the news, kids climbing out windows, swat team rushing this way and that.
>Security cam footage of the shootings, of the bomb blast, of the bloody aftermath
>School still open and has students to this day

Sandy Hook:
>Vague news coverage of an empty school. No kids seen leaving. No swat team.
>NO security cam footage of a shooting. No footage of the suspect approaching, entering, etc. No footage of any kind released, despite state-of-the-art security system.
>School immediately torn down without question. No investigation. Accept the official story or fuck you.

The second one is what a cover-up looks like. If you can't see the massive difference, you are doomed. Just eat your big mac and carry on.

>>673554451
I'm from the UK, what the fuck would i use a gun for? nobody i know has ever seen a real gun and any big fights here end in broken bones and black eyes but nobody gets shot because nobody has guns.

>>673559748
>natural selection

you're a moron

>>673553709

>.22

suck a dick you spineless european faggot

>Be fag, post thread about lack of shootings in some inbred European country.
>Brag about how removing guns removed shootings.
>Noduhsherlock.jpg
>Now we have school bombings, stabbings, burnings, etc.
>Suicide rates are rediculous, everyone and their mother is circle jerking off to removing guns.
>God saved the queen.

>Be me, German citizen.
>See the title of this thread, and see what it's actually about.
Oh come on motherfucker, you wouldn't say this is a cringe thread.

want to stop the violence?

Look at what causes it.

outcasts with nerd rage.

Bros have nerd rage and they don't know it...
they rage over stupid shit like football and
their cheating girlfriends who sucked the whole
football team off.

school shooters are idiots who turn to violence
instead of creativity like art and shit.

they're repressed rats trapped in the corner by an invisible cat. their beef isn't with society it's with themselves.

I knew a kid in high school who idolized school
shooters and shit. kid made a hit list and the whole 9 but he wasn't gonna do shit cuse he was
actually a decent person. a genuinely nice kid.
he wasn't a looker, was kinda slow, and thought
that cause he was a reject he had to fit the reject archetype of satanic music and all that.
Kids used to bully him but I helped get them to stop by hanging out with him and showing them
he's just a goof. after that he chilled out and just said silly shit.

if you want to disarm them find a middle ground they can relate on and actually get kids to give a fuck about human life.

like "hey... this dudes a human... I'm a human... if I were him I wouldn't like my situation either"

you know... compassion instead of fashion.

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>>673548645
blablabla correlation blablabla causation blablablabla britcucks

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>>673548645

>>673559641


first, micks are irish not scottish.

second, the largest school stabbing on record is an american one.

franklin regional high school, 2014, 21 injured .

so come on, when did a scottish school beat this?

>>673560378
That's a nice picture you painted and all, but it's not real. It's what you get from the evening news when something happens. Shoddy ass journalism that only wants to vilify someone.

Imagine what they'd say about you if shit went down. What if you were framed and died during an event? Suddenly you were depressed and vengeful, and once they see that 500 gig manga folder of yours, a disturbed young man, a loner...

>>673556306
So I'm just imagining the 22 rifle in the corner of my room?

>>673551519
That isnt true. Random shootings are almost exclusively a nigger behavior. White people premeditate their crimes.

>>673560302

nope, no school bombings in scotland.

>>673550793
they said they banned murder once and for all...

>>673552804
/thread

>>673560573
>first, micks are irish not scottish.
No, Half the god damn scottish distilleries have Mc in the name. Irish names are like O'Leary, so they'd be O's. That leaves micks to the scots, since there are Mc's there, but few O's.

Sorry, its a matter of logistics. Scots needed a derogatory name.

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>>673553709

>legal

Well then try to get one. Let's see how it works out.

>>673560835

scots have a derogatory name - jocks.

mick is and always has been a reference to the irish.

>>673560116
>nobody has guns
6.6 per 100 people

>>673553709

>manual action

What is that actually supposed to mean? l like a bolt-action AK-47M? Are these people really that retarded?

>>673561052

that doesnt mean 6.6 people per 100 have guns though, does it?

>>673552078
Lol, you faggots can hardly get knives.

>>673561141
no of course not. But are there really collectors in the UK like there are in the US?

>>673560977
its like you think saying that is changing my mind

nope nope nope

scots = micks, and I dont give a fuck

more names with Mc in scotland

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>>673553709

The right to posses a firearm doesn't mean you are allowed to carry it in every day life.

Most is probably for sports shooters who have to keep it in a safe and are only allowed to carry it to and from the gun range. Unloaded of course.

>>673561292

i dont care if i change your mind.

you are wrong, its up to you to either educate yourself or carry on living like a retard.

if you chose to be a tard thats between you and your wrangler.

>>673551645
Sure, because Belgium totally didn´t play a part in keeping the Germans from reaching Paris when they used their guns to hold them back as long as they could buying time for England to take action.

>>673560665
No Muslims either, and I'm not even blaming them for the problem.

>>673561528

so show me where there have been school bombings in scotland.

ill wait.......

>>673561090
probably straight pull bolt action
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTHECgM1APQ

>>673561470

>Belgium didn´t play a part in keeping the Germans from reaching Paris

That is correct. Belgium is a weird state that never achieved anything of significance except producing pedophiles.

>>673548645
mah freedooom duddd, murica rlz hahaa

>>673548645
Cant wait to watch politically correct tea sipping eurofags try to protect themselves when the muslims your letting in by the hundreds of thousands come to rape, rob, and convert you.

>>673557264
>military base
>carrying weapons
Its like you know nothing about what you're talking about.
Getting your weapon out of the armory takes more politics than owning a weapon in the civilian world.

You have to have signed authority from battalion, which requires signed authority for the range(or whatever area you're going to go to for training) which usually requires a garrison signature. You than need to do sign your weapon out on the day of execution which only the armorer and/or his assistant have access to the armory, which is one of the most secured doors and alarm systems known to man (would require drilling under the the ground to access it without setting off the alarm, which if the power goes out on a section of the base the local company who owns said armory must set guards on a rotation basis outside of its door.
Even than the armory still stays locked no one is actually in it, just guarding the door.

The only people who openly can carry while in uniform are the MPs or guards set at location.
If you carry a weapon onto basis privately owned(make it past a checkpoint) there is virtually no one who has a weapon on them unless you're just unlucky enough to have an MP right there and if you're that stupid your mass shooting wouldn't take place.

I could easily go into a PX and shoot 20-30 people before someone armed would have the chance to respond.

The only way to prevent this is to do regular house searches and vehicle searches(of everyone who comes onto base) even than we all know humans are creative enough to hide something in a false trunk or compartment under a seat.

anyways....
The point being military installations are probably less secure than civilian installations with posted guards unless we are given orders to carry weapons and live ammo. Which would only be at time of war(where installations could be possibly at siege).
Which has never happened outside of our own civil wars.

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>>673562096
such insight

>>673562165

try watching something other than CNN or fox news.

>>673562237

so classrooms full of dead children is acceptable in a 21st century first world country?

because its such a small proportion of the people who die in your country, its totally fine?

>>673552242
I think he was saying guns arent a big part of your pop culture. Gun violence is featured in at least 75% of our movies, and television shows. Does scotland even have pop culture of its own?

>>673562290
Oh. Thats not happening? Your not letting in muslims? Fuck, i gotta get better info.

Douchebag

>>673562558
Yes, it's called drinking.

>>673562667

but thats not all you said is it? you post a whole load of garbage, get called on it, then pick out one little peice to defend.

pathetic really. especially coming from someone shows country has let a nigger turn you into a laughing stock, and is about to vote the political equivalent of ronald mcdonald into the white house.

>>673552322
Im sick of you and the rest of the moderates and regulators. Your kind are the reason the second amendment is in danger right now. Pick a fucking side and stay on it, neutral scum.

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>>673562551
Children die all the time. More are killed in accidents and suicide. There is no reason to give this particular cause of death other than the fact that it gets so much media attention.

>>673563107

like some words written on a peice of paper 300 years ago have any relevance now.

any "right" that can be given to you is not a "right" and be just easily taken away from you.

>>673550947
Typical paranoid fatty

>>673551019
Talk shit about niggers all you want, but it's the emo white crackers shooting up the schools.

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>>673563301
Speak for yourself.

>>673553530
/thread

>>673552096
I've fired a gun several times.
I just don't need one in my home as I'm not scared of everything around me.
Faggot.

>>673563428
school shootings are a tiny fraction of a tiny fraction of deaths.

>>673563223

answer the question.

are you really saying that school shooting are acceptable?

things are done to help prevent suicide (mental health treatment etc), and things are done to prevent accidents (like improved car safety).

but the moment someone suggest taking steps to reduce school shootings? all you pussies get your panties in a bunch and start whining about "mah freedums!"

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>>673562237

Nice bullshit statistic.

There are like 15,000 murders in the US every year. If only 0,2% were killed in math shooting that would only be 30 people. Which is obvious bullshit.

>>673563549
You are a fucking pussy faggot actually.

>>673563636

does that make the acceptable?

or would you say that even one child shot in their classroom is one child too many?

>>673550067
16 children and one teacher worth the rights of every man or woman yet to be born to secure the means to their own self defense and to resist inevitable tyranny. Sounds legit.

>>673553037
Lol
>euroqueer talks about ethnic bioweapon against america
>euroqueers invite ethnic bioweapon to their homeland with open arms.
>refugeeswelcometomywifeanddaughter.jpg

>>673559189
Ignore the hick, what he /wants/ to say is inalienable rights. Rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Under which lies self defense, because how can you have a right to living if you're penalized for defending that life? That's what my pious friend there was trying to say. That's why I believe in armed citizens being the lesser evil.
I'd rather have a chance to sustain my existence, than be left praying to any and all powers that be for help to arrive faster than someone can hurt or kill me.
That's the fucking bottom line of muh gunz shit. I challenge anyone here that isn't suicidal to say "I'd rather accept death than take a chance and defend myself from an attacker" and honestly mean it. I'm not a religious man, I have little faith in more lives than this one, so excuse me if I feel uncomfortable being left with no real effective means of protecting it.
That's why I don't respect no-gunz faggots, either. Seemingly no fucking will to live. Or they think they'll never be a statistic, only other people are at risk.

>>673555977
>implying even a fraction of the 300 million will ever take up arms on either side
>implying an oppressive government fighting its people gives two shits about winning hearts and minds
>implying vast majority of the people you try to fight for don't see you as a domestic terrorist nutjob

>>673548645
Here's the difference I see. The holy ryokan empire is the birthplace of modern western civilization and the people know nothing but subjugation. America is an experiment and the second amendment protects against tyranny. It's not perfect, but consider it an experiment. When other countries say, 'we banned guns... be like us. ' guess what? Fuck your country. We don't want to be like you. Hence the creation of the colonies and the ensuing establishment of the country. I think civilians should have access to anything the military does.

>>673563082
Hey chillout, there, edgelord. You're the one posting about how great it is to live without guns. I merely point out that while it seems fine on the surface, as soon as people decide to not follow the laws and start getting (and using) illegal guns, you are fucked. But, hey, this is what you chose dont attempt to force it on me

Agree with you, however, on the nignog part

>>673553069
Delusional leftist.

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The strange thing I see about American logic is there's always an enemy, always someone to blame.
It's not the fact that guns are laughably easy to aquire, it's Niggers, Spics, red necks, heavy metal music.

Everyone just points fingers at eachother without fully addressing the elephant in the room.

Humans are fucking idiots.
They voted for the nazis.
They like Coldplay.

And you think they should be trusted with guns?

>>673564191
exactly, this fucker gets it and this is coming from a country with strict gun control.

>>673554002
...yet

>>673550947
Shame all you americucks are dead from mass shootings and diabetes.

>>673562551
No it isn't. Which is why we do our very damndest to catch and destroy anyone who would commit such atrocities. It is why we reserve the death penalty to ensure that such heinous crimes receive the proper punishment. What it isn't is an excuse to punish law abiding citizens and to promote a nanny state.

>>673548645
The UK decides what Scottish law is?
Nice freedom you got there, cuck boy. How often did Scotland have school shootings before the UK decided to ban them?

>>673563837
I'm glad you attempted to bring some logic in this argument. I really do. But you must have forgotten that this is 4chan.

>>673557180
Very easy, background check by police, then a test on safety and gun laws, pay some money and you can buy a gun.

>>673548645

so what?

doesn't bring back any of those who died, so I'm pretty sure the parents of those children couldn't give a flying fuck.

kinda useless putting on the seatbelt after the car crash.

>>673552410
I wish I could remember but it didn't happen so I can't

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>filename

It's predominantly white folks doing it, more specifically bullied kids with shitty parents.

Niggers gonna nig ya, but it's whities doing the most harm. There is no real solution that'll mke everyone happy. I think if we tightened up security and had better background check it'd be better, but not solved. Banning the sale of firearms to the public would be the best solution in my opinion. Open up more shooting ranges and only allow sale to licensed hunters or whoever else uses guns. I think hunting is retarded personally, unless you're one of those mountain men, but what do you possibly need collection of fuckin' shotgun, revolver, magnum, pistol, or rifle for?

>>673564473
I'm a little drunk and that's the best I've ever explained my stance. I have a fun on me right now. I don't want to shoot anyone. But the fact is I will if I have to. I do support a method of gun control, but not one that let's the government know what I own. I want a 'license to own guns. ' I pass an annual background check and psychological evaluation, and I get a card that says I can buy guns. Perfect anonymity with responsible gun ownership. Ps, where you from?

>>673548645
Second Amendment. For better or worse it's quite difficult to have complete bans in the US.

>>673564728
bait

>>673563676
>>673563837
I'm all for taking steps to reduce school shootings. but the attention and the fervor given to them is disproportional to the danger. I don't know how this
Kids drown in pools but no one talks about banning or regulating pools. There is no Pool Debate.
A child dying is a tragedy but hundreds of thousands of tragedies occur everyday. We can't and we shouldn't run to big daddy government every time something bad happens.

>>673553290
This

That's because guns are uncivilized. In Europe, we use swords of the highest caliber: katanas.

>Anton Lundin Pettersson FTW

>>673564925
Not real sure about this data. Depends on what constitutes a mass shooting. I would think all the gangbang activity would show something different. Drive by shootings, etc would seem far more prevalent than the more infrequent white crazy that shoots up a school

>>673548645
And yet you're obsessed with America. How sad for you.

>>673564925
>Whities doing most harm

yeah, nah. Whites, according to those stats, are the most common 'mass shooter' IIRC it's 3+ victims within the same time/area. The number of whites doing this is very low and it's not common for whitey to kill a random other whitey. If they break, they go mental.
Nigs, on the other hand just go about shooting the ever living christ out of each other, 1 at a time for no good reason.

Nigs do most harm, even if whitey does more harm quicker.

>>673564925
So, wait, you're telling me that in countries where whites are the statistical majority, they also commit the majority of school shootings? Fuck, that's a shocker.

At least it isn't as dispraportionately as niggers making up less than 15% of the population and committing 80% of all homicides.

>>673564449
Nigger I believe you to be living in a fantasy world. There IS always an enemy. Rarely will he announce himself and make his presence known until you cannot protect yourself. If you are always ready to protect yourself he is forced to attack on unfavorable terms which makes the coward that lives in his heart demand yet more patience, which earns you yet another peaceful day.
As to the next, there is generally some asshole down the line who is to blame for something that gets fucked up. As you say humans are idiots. They fuck things up and the shit always runs downhill into somebody else's business.

The elephant in the room is that no matter what you do and laws you make and how much effort you go to bubble wrap your bitch ass, you are never safe in this world. Safety is a fucking myth. Death sits on your shoulder and you will never be able to change that. There will always be mad men ready to do violence to innocents. There will always be thugs who lack the basic human compassion that our civilization is founded on. There will always be accidents, disease, chance, and the unknown and my freedom is worth more than your cowardice.

Yeah there were no school shootings at THAT SCHOOL but the UK has more school shootings than the US

>>673563701
that's actually about right you autist
there have been plane crashes that killed more passengers than every mass shooting in the US combined since about 1970
go back to you cuckshed europoor, you government needs your house to house more "peaceful "syrian""refugees" :^)

>>673560610
Toys dont count Nigel.

I'm glad we were all able to have a mostly polite discussion about guns. thanks guys.

>>673564449
it is demonstrably true that there IS a problem, and the problem is niggers.
If every black in the US disappeared tomorrow, the violent crime rate would drop to the the same level as hungary.
fuck off

>>673551645
gun behind every blade of grass

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Found this on wikipedia. What drives up Europes total murder count is Russia's 12800 murders per year and Ucraines 2000 murders per year. If we exclude Russia and Ucraine in the murder stats then Europe is the most peaceful place on earth :D.

>>673566502
Just like if we exclude niggers and white people that make less than 30,000$ a year our crime rates boil down to the cops shooting black people for very nearly anything.

>>673564925
>what do you possibly need collection of fuckin' shotgun, revolver, magnum, pistol, or rifle for?
because I fucking LIKE them, maybe? Not my problem niggers and autistic whites use what i use for recreation to kill people.
You know what can kill just as effectively? Cars. We should ban cars too. Nobody needs a Corvette or SUV, far too dangerous. Everybody should have a fucking minicooper.

>>673557387
knob

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>>673565958

Go fuck yourself. This year there have already been more people killed in mass shootings. And it's only march.

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

>>673548645
Something Americucks don't pay attention to is that in the UK we can still own shotguns and rifles, the requirements are that:
>You don't have a criminal record
>You can afford your certificate and renewals (shot gun initial certificate for 5 years £80, renewal £50)
>You don't wave it around in public like a fucktard
You can still get shotguns, rifles and sporting handguns, the law just made it more difficult for social retards who had a bad day to shoot up public places, don't get me wrong we do still have some gun crime, but we don't have school/workplace shootings and we certainly don't have copycats trying to top the high score.

I have a shotgun, I keep it in a gun safe, I can get into it if someone is trying to break into my house and defend myself.
No, I won't get put in prison or arrested, the guy who was in the past was arrested because he waited for the robbers.

>>673556306
Anyone can apply for a shotgun license, the police have to have good reason to refuse you one.

Anyone can apply for firearms license, rifles etc, you have to provide good reason for owning one.

>>673566837
>generalizations
>slippery slope
this comic is so fair that everyone involved is depicted as an asshole.

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>>673548645
>UK
>fucking horrible socialist shithole police state that's being overrun by muslims

yeah, let's have some of that "safety before freedom" with a sideorder of "your rights end where the feelings of immigrants begin", seems like a great direction for a nation

>>673555270
This. Thebsurrendering of privately owned firearms to the government leaves creates a power inequality that the rulers of the world (not can but) with undeniable certainty will take advantage off. Enjoy living on all fours with your butthole presented, sub coward.

>>673566995
you forgot that a local policeman or somesuch has to OK a form that says he approves of you/your reason for having a gun, which is bullshit and they often say no

>>673564925
>mass shootings
That's a seriously dishonest graph. It's called a mass shooting when a white person does it, but it gets called gang violence otherwise.

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>>673566752
Interesting so if more people made $30,000 a year including black people murder rates and maybe even total crime rates would plummet?

Have you ever thought of trying it and see what happens?

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>>673567314

Define the term "freedom" in your own words. Tell us about the traits you attribute to freedom.

>>673567930
The ability to do as I wish so long as it doesn't harm or infringe upon someone else's rights.

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>>673567800
You have to get off your ass and go to work. Then the job has to be there for you to do. Ask our current socialist leadership what the problem is.

>>673567603
Not sure what that has to do with handguns being banned in the UK, but yeah the Muslim issue is something well known to us, it's a shame the EU politicians forced authorities to turn a blind eye to everything that was happening.
Now if only we were trying to do something to fix that, like a British Exit from the EU, I'd call it Brexit.
In case you don't understand, we are trying to leave the EU and fix our shit, something Obongo has been trying to scare us out of doing.

>>673568134

And that is different from the UK how?

>>673551645
you need to learn american history. the country wouldnt exist if you were right

>>673552322
you're missing the point faggot, how many mass shootings happened in france in 2015 ? now compare that to how many happened in the states

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>>673568378

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>>673568378
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>>673558734
oh, you really ARE that stupid. i thought you were only pretending.

i consider myself a pretty stable person and never had any sort of neurosis. simply live in europe, where you can actually SEE what happens when guns are allowed to a certain point but really hard to get.
you will always have violence, but there is a difference between having to go through various tests and waiting for months before you can get a gun, or being able to buy an unlicensed rifle from the guy around the corner.
the only thing you have on your side is your stupid fucking constitution, a law that is hundreds of years old and has no practical use in modern society.

the only reason why you think you need a rifle to feel safe enough to sleep at night is because you fear other people having rifles. it's that simple. no guns, no fear of guns. and you should be allowed to have a gun at home, after you passed psychological tests. but not a fucking arsenal to blow up the neighborhood.

>>673556894
Fucking rustled. God, i hate shitskins. Europeans won't do shit about it either. Fucking gunless pussies. Cowards.

>>673568783
guns aren't the only way to kill or hurt. other ways are actually more common.