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2016-03-11 22:38:50 Post No. 673415665
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:38:50 Post No. 673415665 [Report]
ITT first one to get banned is praised as a god
cont.
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:39:46 Post No.673415769
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:39:46 Post No.673415769 [Report]
bump
and no cp this time tards
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:43:18 Post No.673416216
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:43:18 Post No.673416216 [Report]
DHIMS
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:44:43 Post No.673416400
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:44:43 Post No.673416400 [Report]
>>673415665
how does one get banned on /b/
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:45:28 Post No.673416480
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:45:28 Post No.673416480 [Report]
>>673416400
getting dubs
MODS
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:45:36 Post No.673416500
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:45:36 Post No.673416500 [Report]
child porn
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:46:28 Post No.673416589
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new god of /b/

ANON DELIVERED
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:46:43 Post No.673416619
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:46:43 Post No.673416619 [Report]
>>673416400
I just got over two bans for no raison
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:48:32 Post No.673416840
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:48:32 Post No.673416840 [Report]
Doesn't posting with Tor automatically get that IP banned?
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:50:16 Post No.673417065
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:50:16 Post No.673417065 [Report]
>>673416840
Do eet
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:50:33 Post No.673417103
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I turn 18 tomorrow
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:51:32 Post No.673417215
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:51:32 Post No.673417215 [Report]
>>673415665
Is this some gay new maymay?
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:51:55 Post No.673417260
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:51:55 Post No.673417260 [Report]
>>673417103
Then show us your chesticles manlet....
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:52:46 Post No.673417376
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:52:46 Post No.673417376 [Report]
>>673417103
Show me your underage nipples
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:53:23 Post No.673417473
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im 12 what it
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:53:30 Post No.673417484
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:53:30 Post No.673417484 [Report]
>>673415665
im underaged
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:53:44 Post No.673417512
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:53:44 Post No.673417512 [Report]
>>673416500
MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:53:59 Post No.673417542
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:53:59 Post No.673417542 [Report]
>>673417484
I'm overaged
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:54:21 Post No.673417583
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:54:21 Post No.673417583 [Report]
>>673417473
MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS MEEDS MADDS MOODS
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:54:42 Post No.673417632
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>>673415665

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA8n5NvacYc
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:55:44 Post No.673417761
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:55:54 Post No.673417780
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:55:54 Post No.673417780 [Report]
>>673417632
And why would that get you banned?
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:56:57 Post No.673417928
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:56:57 Post No.673417928 [Report]
>>673417103
i turn 18 in one second
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:57:32 Post No.673418006
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>>673417831
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:58:18 Post No.673418091
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:58:18 Post No.673418091 [Report]
>>673417831
MODS
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:58:25 Post No.673418104
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:58:25 Post No.673418104 [Report]
>>673417831
MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDS
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:58:55 Post No.673418170
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:58:55 Post No.673418170 [Report]
Guess what
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:59:37 Post No.673418252
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:59:37 Post No.673418252 [Report]
>>673418170
What?
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:59:37 Post No.673418255
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 22:59:37 Post No.673418255 [Report]
>>673418170
u r a faggot?
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:00:04 Post No.673418302
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:00:04 Post No.673418302 [Report]
>>673418252
Chicken butt
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:00:19 Post No.673418339
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:00:19 Post No.673418339 [Report]
>>673417831
MoooOOOOOODDSSSSS
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:00:34 Post No.673418371
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>>673417831
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:01:08 Post No.673418435
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:02:00 Post No.673418541
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:02:00 Post No.673418541 [Report]
>>673416840
I'm on it now, you just have to find the right avenue.
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:02:02 Post No.673418544
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I bet you're all white
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:02:36 Post No.673418606
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:02:36 Post No.673418606 [Report]
Mods=gosa?

Mods=gosa.
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:04:33 Post No.673418834
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:04:51 Post No.673418868
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:04:51 Post No.673418868 [Report]
is no one gonna comment on how the image was titled laura 2!!! implying he has more of them!!!
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:05:55 Post No.673418987
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im not 18 yet
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:06:00 Post No.673418996
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Ey B0ss this thread gave me cancer
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:06:32 Post No.673419051
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>>673418868
you're just new is all
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:07:26 Post No.673419169
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:07:26 Post No.673419169 [Report]
>>673418868
They average 100 pics per set.
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:07:55 Post No.673419231
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:07:55 Post No.673419231 [Report]
>>673415769
Really upset I missed the last thread
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:08:28 Post No.673419292
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:08:28 Post No.673419292 [Report]
>>673419231
Wasn't anything that special
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:08:38 Post No.673419315
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:08:38 Post No.673419315 [Report]
Lurking + bumping for interest
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:08:48 Post No.673419335
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:08:48 Post No.673419335 [Report]
>>673419051
no im not ive been on for like four months, i think i know what im doing
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:09:56 Post No.673419463
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:09:56 Post No.673419463 [Report]
People post porn so i can keep myself busy whilst lurking
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:10:03 Post No.673419476
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:10:03 Post No.673419476 [Report]
FUCK YOU JAP MOOT SUCK MY WHITE COCK YOU KOOK FAGGOT
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:10:19 Post No.673419514
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:10:19 Post No.673419514 [Report]
>>673419335
> 4 months
> Implying your not a newfag
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:10:38 Post No.673419568
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:10:38 Post No.673419568 [Report]
>>673419514
Why did you fall for it
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:10:43 Post No.673419579
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>>673419463

You're welcome.
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:10:47 Post No.673419592
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>>673416619
*raisin
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:11:03 Post No.673419618
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>>673419463
random clicks, no idea what it is.
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:11:29 Post No.673419676
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:12:33 Post No.673419800
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:12:33 Post No.673419800 [Report]
>>673419618
Tyvm
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:12:35 Post No.673419804
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:12:35 Post No.673419804 [Report]
>>673419514
>implying you think your not a newfag
>falling for the bait that hard
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:12:37 Post No.673419809
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:12:37 Post No.673419809 [Report]
>>673419476
He's Japanese, so he's seen/done some pretty fucked up shit. Your little insult there doesn't phase him in the least.
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:13:00 Post No.673419847
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:13:00 Post No.673419847 [Report]
>tfw only 16 yo
>literally a summerfag
>was bored over summer break
>stayed up whole night watching youtube videos about anonymoose
>decide to come here
>/b seemed like shit
>gotta find that pepe board
>go on /r9k/
>integrate but get depressed
>3 months later i come here again
>gore thread yiss
>ylyl banana cancer
>dubs thread yaas
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:13:00 Post No.673419848
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>>673419676
Destroyer of worlds
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:14:12 Post No.673419998
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:14:12 Post No.673419998 [Report]
>>673419804
Indeed I fell for the bait and I am ashamed.
> Sentenced myself to 2 weeks of lurking
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:15:17 Post No.673420147
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>>673419998
NEWFAGS CANT QUADS
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:16:17 Post No.673420284
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:16:17 Post No.673420284 [Report]
>>673419998
> 2 more weeks for missing quads
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:16:45 Post No.673420339
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>>673419292
Someone mentioned cp
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:16:48 Post No.673420347
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:16:48 Post No.673420347 [Report]
>>673419998
Off by one-Kenobi
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:18:33 Post No.673420579
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>>673419514
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:19:42 Post No.673420705
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:19:42 Post No.673420705 [Report]
one time i got banned from making a twitch raid thread
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:20:14 Post No.673420766
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>>673420347

yo
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:20:27 Post No.673420798
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>>673417831
so we have our god. what now?
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:21:18 Post No.673420896
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:21:18 Post No.673420896 [Report]
I turn 10 tomorrow give me the memes lol
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:21:36 Post No.673420936
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:21:36 Post No.673420936 [Report]
>>673420798
Gone in a blink of an eye
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:22:17 Post No.673421021
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:22:17 Post No.673421021 [Report]
>>673420798
AAAYYYOOO HOL UP MUH NIGGA WHUD HE POST
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:22:36 Post No.673421050
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:22:36 Post No.673421050 [Report]
>>673420896
Lol you got dank memes
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:24:38 Post No.673421307
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:24:38 Post No.673421307 [Report]
>>673421021
little girl looking like a stripper
no nudity though.
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:24:58 Post No.673421336
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:24:58 Post No.673421336 [Report]
dont read this cuz it actually works

You will be kissed on the nearest Friday by the love of your life. Tomorrow will be the best day of your life. However, if you do not post this in at least 3 threads you will die in 2 days. Now that you're reading this, don't stop. This is so scary. Put this in at least 5 threads in 143 minutes, and when you're done press F6 and your lover's name will appear on the screen in big letters. This is so scary, it actually works.
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:26:48 Post No.673421571
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:26:48 Post No.673421571 [Report]
>>673421336
>be me
>have no love of my live
>kek
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:31:03 Post No.673422188
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>>673421828
how about a mega?
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:31:50 Post No.673422302
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>>673421828
do it fgt
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:31:59 Post No.673422327
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>>673421828
SAVON ELLS EE GON DEW AYTE
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:33:25 Post No.673422524
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>>673421828
You wont
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:33:58 Post No.673422594
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>>673421828
deliver faggot
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:34:48 Post No.673422710
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>>673421828
Bullshit nigga
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:36:03 Post No.673422847
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>>673421828
Lying ass nigga
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:37:56 Post No.673423065
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>>673421828
just fucking do it fag
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:38:48 Post No.673423180
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:38:48 Post No.673423180 [Report]
Limbaugh is a racist, Glenn Beck is a racist
Gaza strip was getting bombed, Obama didn't say shit
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:40:10 Post No.673423359
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Who else got b& in the last thread
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:40:11 Post No.673423360
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I am 17 and turn 18 on Sunday. Janitors do it for free
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k, ill kick the snake second time
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:43:01 Post No.673423760
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:43:01 Post No.673423760 [Report]
Is child nudity illegal in the US?
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:43:38 Post No.673423857
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:43:38 Post No.673423857 [Report]
>>673423760
Super yes
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:43:59 Post No.673423905
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:43:59 Post No.673423905 [Report]
>>673423760
Not if it's not for sexual purposes.

Nudism=/=porn
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:44:28 Post No.673423975
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:44:28 Post No.673423975 [Report]
>>673423857
because where I live it's not
funny
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:44:29 Post No.673423977
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>>673423760
Well no shit, this ain't Saudi Arabia
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:45:03 Post No.673424057
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:45:03 Post No.673424057 [Report]
Mmmm..
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/nr9iqgqkj95bue2/AAApTYtGbmMsSBe_zu0GoG2-a
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:45:10 Post No.673424087
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>>673419804
>your
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:46:27 Post No.673424273
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>>673424057
So many furries
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:46:40 Post No.673424303
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:46:40 Post No.673424303 [Report]
>>673423359
>posting your ip
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:46:41 Post No.673424311
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:46:41 Post No.673424311 [Report]
I got banned for doxing myself. Honestly.
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:46:43 Post No.673424313
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:46:43 Post No.673424313 [Report]
>>673424057
Goddamnit anon
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:47:33 Post No.673424420
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:47:33 Post No.673424420 [Report]
>>673423359
Your IP...?
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:49:08 Post No.673424631
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:49:08 Post No.673424631 [Report]
>>673424057
I was about to say it just a bunch of regular straight people shit but it's a bunch of furries so I didn't
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:49:38 Post No.673424698
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:49:38 Post No.673424698 [Report]
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>>673424420
>newfags don't know how evading a ban works
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:53:27 Post No.673425200
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:53:27 Post No.673425200 [Report]
I'm actually 15 kek
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:54:53 Post No.673425385
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fucking whatever
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:56:21 Post No.673425571
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>>673425200
So apparently being underage doesn't get you banned now should I post picture?
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:57:23 Post No.673425698
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:57:23 Post No.673425698 [Report]
>>673425571
it's friday night, all the janitors are getting their required weekly bath.
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:58:12 Post No.673425794
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like I care. Have CP you filthy animals
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:58:18 Post No.673425807
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:58:18 Post No.673425807 [Report]
not to be a newfag, but how do they instantly delete cp?
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:58:24 Post No.673425816
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:58:24 Post No.673425816 [Report]
>>673415665
Sorry anon, they've banned me too much lately, and I don't like to be muted.
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:59:05 Post No.673425900
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:59:05 Post No.673425900 [Report]
>>673425698
Thats a lie, they don't wash. They want to remain filthy in order to clean us of our filth.

>They are very, very filthy
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:59:40 Post No.673425967
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Anonymous 2016-03-11 23:59:40 Post No.673425967 [Report]
>>673425816
how the piss fuck do you get muted/b&?
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