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>>673313553
Did the jews do 9/11?

>>673313735
I'm not sure Bush was a Jew

this is only extremely vulgar

>>673313851
So the jews did do it...

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Can you prove you're a Freemason and can you prove you're not just some guys circle jerking over a pentagram and you actually control high level ops? If so then I have some other questions for you.

>>673313988
As if we could organize our next pancake meal....

>>673313553
How do I sell my soul? Seriously? I put this question out to anyone that can help a brah meet the dark lord and get material possesions for life. :D

>>673314504
Ive taken the first three degrees of blue lodge, and once i join either the Scottish Rite or the York Rite, ill be able to gain further light through other degrees. Or, if I just wanted to goof around, id join the shriners

>>673314647
Vote Donald Trump

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When is the government going to tell the truth about the America land mass? The fact that the indegenous people were "black"?

>>673315400
What the fuck are you on about? Niggers arent indegenous to america

>>673314748
If your actually a mason, show us your dues card

Which is your preference and why is it the Scottish Rite? Also, by what signs would you recognize a brother

>>673315598

Do your research fam. You have a lot to learn.

>>673316300
Because they have alcohol in the scottish rite. And usually Brothers usually have a Ring or a car decal.

>>673313553
Are there more than 33 degrees?

What is a "touch" and what is the secret word?

>>673316751
There are only 3 degrees in Blue lodge. In the Scottish Rite you can get up to 32. The 33rd is more of an award than a real degree. But once you get your First degree, You're as much as a Freemason as a 33rd degree

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>>673316505
A good answer to the first, and not what I meant for the second. But very well. Genuinely; what drove you to join in the first place? What was your decision-making process.

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>>673316822
I'd tell you the secret word, but it Died with Grandmaster Hiram Abiff

>>673316751

there are actually 360 degrees

this is kvlt as fuck information that like less than 1% of the world's population is aware of

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>>673315400
da fuck?
What thrut about america land mass?

This need more post or even an own thread. I love this paranoid bullshit
>Also Check em

>>673317120
Freemasonry is about making a Good man Better. I wanted some of that. And the brotherhood and fellowship is amazing

Why do u let mudslime join u now?

>>673317256
As a Mason, It's amusing to see all of these conspiricy theories

>>673315933
This otherwise your just a poser. You can't post anything other than that on here without violating your obligations.
>dues card with timestamp or gtfo
>I'm a 3° in the 29th district of NC

>>673317448
Its hard to approve visitation for black lodges. You have to request permission through your grand lodge, who communicates the prince hall grand lodge, who asks the prince hall lodge for permission, who then allow or deny it, then they have to send word back to their grand lodge, who sends it to your grand lodge, who then gets it back to your lodge. Takes about 6 months to approve 1 visit if everyone does what they need to.

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>>673317343
Fair enough. Did your sense of stuff change significantly? Or is this another commitment in your life, no more or less defining than any other?

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>>673317524
people is crazy. My grandpa was a freemason, nothing weird at all.
just free men, looking for knowledge.

>>673313553
So if its a militants job to fight.
What does that make you op?

What is it a freemason does? Why pursue to be a freemason when there are so many other possible social outlets?

>>673317633
Thats jurisdictional. We aren't bound under the same grand lodge. I will tell you that I am a master mason though

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>>673315400

>>673317931
It really did change alot. I can't really go into it much, but if you stick with it, and do the work, you'll be much better off. The craft isn't for everyone, but I wish i had joined years ago

>>673318030
Cont... i must ask because i am at a split between mortalities.

>>673313553
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>>673318046
No it's not. The obligations are the same unless you're clandestine. The only thing you could post on here without violating your obligations would be a pic of your dues card (name covered) with timestamp.

>>673318030
Freemasons, at least in my district, have a line in the Charge where you are instructed to follow your government faithfully.
Freemasonry is a fraternity of men and brothers who meet for work, through which, you become a better man. I joined for that, as well as so I could study the rich history. Our History supposedly dates back to King Solomon

>>673317524
As a mason you should know this as fact.

>>673318454
The only things Im going to post are in the masonic monitor, which is published and available from my states grand lodge. I wont violate my obligation

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>>673318109
No videos; real, scholastic, research.

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>>673318228
Hmm. Interesting.

Well thanks for your time/answers. I'm off to bed.

Have a good one, /b/brothers.

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>>673318631
So what is it you are "Charge"ing for?

Im just curious because its springtime and things get "hot and sweaty".

I am well aware of the history. I am beyond struck as to what to give my life for.

As a civillian I feel lost in many tides of change. I do not have a faithful job nor am i in any possible position of responsibility other than my own life.

Just curious.

(If i were to join and rise into rank in your admist what is it i would be pushing for in society)

What are some of the handshakes you do? Or other secret tokens?

>>673318228
What is it freemasons do?

>>673317170
Give me the first letter and i tell you the second one...

>>673319765
The charge a part of the ritual. Id rather not get into it because i dont remember most of it, but its really nice.
If i were you, Id look for a local lodge and go to a meeting about an hour before hand and meet some masons. Youll be allowed to ask all the questions you want, and youd get a free meal

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Why are you guys not as cool as the Secret Snake Club?

>>673319900
I have a coin my lodge gave me, it kind of looks like a subway token, does that count?

>>673319993
We try to become better men

>>673319167
more of a caucasoid nose than a negroid

>>673313553
How do i join freemason in Seattle

>>673320017
You first

>>673320153
You mean the trouser snake club, right?

>>673320287
just have a coworker who's an FM

>>673320460
I don't work

>>673320287
Look up the grand lodge masonic website for your state, it appears they have a form you can fill out where you can have a mason contact you about joining

what do they do in the lodge
I hear everything from BDSM to parties, but of course i dunno

Is there a reason the masonic order wants me to stop developing the JacketBook system?

>>673320083
I would rather fast than eat from hungry hands. Im not trying to provoke its just you know.....

Why do you come here then without the eeds to answer such a question as mine? Do you truly seek just the attention of our fortitudes? I have thy time and plenty of that i shall have.

why do you place signs at random places through european cities and churches?

>>673320795
We have parties, where we watch things such as football games and UFC fights, but we also have masonic meetings where we do degree work and business meetings

>>673320949
ah, thanks for clearing that up

>>673320811
Yes

>>673320822
I honestly dont remember the charge. Its a lengthy monolouge and I'm not an officer in my lodge and im not required to learn it

>>673320880
Because thats a lodge

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>>673313553
>part 2
>2016

cool story bro

Fact: there's no such thing as freemasons or illuminati. Grow up

>>673313553
How does one join?

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>>673320573
it's just a frat for grown-ups. my bro-in-law has lunch with some of his coworkers who are FM's. he was invited to become a member. he's currently an unofficial member.
The Freemasons of today are like the Hell's Angels of today, the Angels outside of San Bernardino aren't hardcore, they're just a club. There may be "hardcore" Freemasons somewhere, but they aren't in the common lodges all over the US, and elsewhere..

>>673321504
Why join a shitty homosexual society with a bad reputation when you can invent your own fresh

>>673321504
Typically, its said 2B1ASK1
But that phrase was coined before the internet, where its easier to find lodges and meeting times. Usually, in the US, your state will have a Masonic Grand lodge website that will give you instructions on how to join or find a lodge. In my case, I found a lodge and emailed them, but if you see a building with the masonic square and compasses, and you see cars outside, just go on in, im sure that any brothers inside can help you out

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>>673313553
>ask a Freemason anything
>anything
Wont answer any secrets pls fuck off and stop posting this shit faggot unless you are going to do what you say.

>>673321479
trust me there are, in the netherlands we have multiple lodges and you can go to a meeting on some days.
just in my city we have 3 lodges.

>>673319138
Post a picture of yourself in your apron with timestamp. Or GTFO

>>673321601
>he was invited to become a member.

It's not by invitation. You have to seek them out yourself.

>ACTUAL Mason

And no I'm not answering any questions. Go indulge your idiotic conspiracy theories with someone else.

>>673322224
Im actually still waiting for my apron, my lodge secretary hasnt given it to me yet

>>673313553
Ehi op, i'm from Italy, do you know where can i find a mason here?

>>673322238
STFU you Faux Mason, you're just pretending to be a "real" Freemason so anons will gratify you.

>>673313553
Do you still worship Lucifer, the light bringer?

>>673322790
Just look up your local grand lodge online, itll usually have information on how to join

>>673322974
Sounds like you googled Albert Pike

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Ask a REAL Mason

>>673323305
it's just a club

>>673323845
Why are you wearing your ring the wrong way

>>673323845
do they serve "beverages" in your club lodge?

>>673323845
What's the difference between illuminati and masons?

>>673313553
do you know who Hiram Abif is?

Can I join?

>>673324435
He's the widow's son

>>673323845
I tried this out as a teenager, kinda left because it was all weird and felt too formal for everything. Do you actually enjoy being part of it?

>>673324489
No

>>673324162
I'm not that's how the ring is worn in an AF&AM jurisdiction.

>>673323845
do you know who Hiram Abif is?

>>673324577
Im AF&AM, We usually wear them the other way. Good luck taking over my AMA, im going to bed /b/rother

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>>673324169
No, but occasionally after our stated communication, we'll meet up at the bar for a drink.

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>>673313553
are there any masonic symbols in trump's campaign song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDLqYvcXQjU

>>673324244
The Illuminati was a movement in France that died out around the 19th century

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>>673324489
Just Google the Grand Lodge of ( insert state name here) and and it'll tell you what to do.

>>673324860
>>673325332
nice knick-knack you're sporting there;
you sure seem proud of it for some reason

>>673325332
Gran Loggia Regolare d'Italia

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>>673324547
You did demolay. You can't be a mason until you're 18.
Its been one of the best decisions of my life.

Do you have the square and compass all over your car/your clothes/your rings, etc?

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>>673324776
Huh? AMA?
>I'm 3° in the 29th district of NC

>>673325876
you had to buy that ring or did they give it to you?

>>673325876
>>673326044
also, do you have to pay for the rituals and stuff?

>>673325452
Sure am friend. It's a great honor to reach the sublime degree of a master Mason.

>>673325660
what kind of things do you discuss, political views or talk about your jobs?

>>673325876
do you know who Hiram Abif is?

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i've always wanted to ask a freemason

why are you a faggot, OP?

>>673313553
what you gonna do when your people go home and the reefers all gone?

>>673313553
lol all the teenybops edgin out thinkin freemasonry is killuminati

>>673325876
"non-gay" man on man orgies?

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>>673326044
Depends on the jurisdiction, but my family got it for me for Christmas.

>>673326108
You pay a dues every year. It's a flat rate regardless of how many degrees you complete. I pay $75 a year. The dues fund the Lodge for bills and stuff. Any leftover money we give to an orphanage and retirement home.

>>673313553
if true Mason explain the purpose of a keystone

>>673313553
what really happened to phillip meadows

Hey brother! Lodge 52 here, which one are you?

>>673326647
Tell me some benefits of your order, why someone would want to join the order?

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1) Is Donald Trump the (other) Anti-Christ ?

2) Does PiLL Cosby own stocks in J-E-L-L-O ?

> 3) Is Hell Hairy-Clit N. .. ... a transexual man ?

4) Did Hanna Montaina get raped by her Daddy during the filming of her video ''Racking Balls'' ?

5) Will Nancy RayGun rise from the dead on Easter Morning and sell drugs to Muslems ?
(ps: ''haters gunna Gun.'' )

..is Real, .. is NOT Real, .. Israel, .. is NOT real, .. is Real, is NOT ....

6) Can an illuminated Knights Templar teleport interdimensionaly and/or re-Materialize every 230 years ?

> 7) What is your favorite David Bowie album ?

>>673313553
do you worship Lucifer? would you say youre enlightened?

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hi butthead... >>673327042
i'm not the O.P. ... i'm just a cop.
any butthead can google that answer.
(ps haters gunna Gun)

>>673313553
I shit on the freemasons.

>>673327469
It makes good man great and great men better. You're an equal and accepted to over 6 million brothers world wide.

Many people join masonry for many reasons. You get out what you put in.

>>673327873
but can they explain the true reason of a Keystone? not something you can just do a quick check for on Google

>>673327567
semi-confused kek

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. ..'' I AM '' .. . smarter than Lucifer
but not smarter than you >>673327820

>>673313851
Confirmed not a real freemanson. I know few and from what I've seen they are not retarded / conspiracy faggots.

>>673327970
You're really vague, and i think it's because you can't say a lot of things, can you tell me if there is any "material" (money, propert ecc...) that you can earn with masons?

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that's >>673327896 Karmic
you know.

WhAt? .. goes around CUMs a RounD.

>>673313553
Oh Lord my God is there no help for the widow's son?

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>>673328365
Years ago they sold kick ass life insurance policies, but no more. Currently you don't receive anything of material value.

>>673328208
lol not understanding that conspiracy is a real thing happening all around you. you probably don't even know about the PRISM project.

>>673313553
Who's America?

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>>673328649
I top your ring.

>>673328129
"I AM" as in the almighty? how are you smarter than the Light Bringer but not a lowly human as myself? are you the Freemason OP?

>>673328649
are the freemasons still in control of the US government? i get the feeling they lost control a while ago

>>673328888
Op is kill. See:
>>673328649

>>673328649
All the simbols, all the numbers that everyday we see, like the design of the dollar for example, these are all yours creations?

>>673313553
Will you draw me a turtle climbing a tree?

http://flockdraw.com/f1xczj

>>673329056
That's pretty cool bro. Where'd you get it?

>>673329168
quads needs answer though

>>673329145
They may be there's millions in the US. There is no Masonic objective to control the government.

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Smith was even a Freemason for a time. It easy to become a FM in the early 1800's, it's easy to become one today.

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If anyone can, thank you.
-What is a freemason?
-I saw a freemason sticker on my neighbor's car.. should i be worried?
-Is there a connotation between Satanic followers and the freemason?
-Can you only be white to join? What are the requirements
-Do i have to take it in the ass/suck dick to join?
-There are a bunch of people that gather at the woods near my house wearing mask. Freemasons?
-What is the point of being one?
-

>>673329397
America named after Amerigo Vespucci

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>>673313553

>>673329593
so its named after a wog?

mom's cumming hOMe in 5, so.. god aGo soon >>673328407 >>673327873 >>673328129
> the answer to number six >>673327567 is yes, time-traveling inside vampire-cofins, burried under (obvious)Masonic corner-stones.
peace-out,
Felix, the wonderful, cop.

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>>673314504
Born into it

>>673329536
1. A religious man who wants to improve himself and help others
2. Nothing to worry about
3. Satanists can't be Masons
4. Must be: A man, 18 years old, no felonies, and a belief in a God
5. You are not harmed or humiliated during initiation. Nothing gay either.
6. Masons don't wear masks. Maybe the KKK or wiccans?
7. To improve yourself, fellowship, charity, and meeting people you wouldn't normally meet.

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mom's cumming hOMe in 5, so.. god aGo soon >>673328407 >>673327873 >>673328129

> the answer to number six >>673327567 is yes, time-traveling inside vampire-cofins, burried under (obvious)Masonic corner-stones.

Peace (office-sir) ouT,
<~ FELIX, the wonderful, c'OPp.

>>673314647
Bumping what I said earlier, can someone please respond with some to this with something? <3

>>673330298
You're all saying to "improve" yourself, but what do you mean by this? What can you actually improve if you're a masons?

>>673330298
sounds like my kind of thing! Thank you kindly

>>673330453
Auction it off on eBay. It's been done before. Seriously, Google it.

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>>673330298
What do you mean by "People you don't normally meet?" Don't have to be that specific.. just like drugs? Money? Helping others?

>>673329282
Inherited.born with mason blood

>>673330548
Develop a stronger moral code, learn to meet and talk to people you never met, strive to treat people with love...

Improvement is what you make of it. Many people join masonry for many reasons. I can't explain it really. You get out what you put in.

>>673330741
Other individuals from different backgrounds, religions, careers, interests, and stuff like that.

>>673330762
Treasure it. You don't see stuff like that any more.

Is there no help... for the widow's son?

how did you join the Masons?

have they told you about the satanic rituals yet?

>>673313553
Wow, must be such a thing. Hello brother.

>>673331248

>>673315400

WE WAS KAAAAANGZ

>>673313553
How's your spaghetti dinner plans coming along?

>>673329415
Obviously the united states was founded by the freemasons. Did your organization really keep it's fingers out of the government? And does it have a plan to return this country to it's former glory? i have a hard time believing you guys are not concerned about this.

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>>673317343

Ironic that you're on /b/; the board about making bad men worse.

>>673332817
Not really ironic. If you knew the intention of OP you could say whether or not his being here is ironic.

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Sup brother.

>>673314748
>Or, if I just wanted to goof around, id join the shriners

Really dude? We help kids. I'd call that a little more than just goofing around. The face that most of us leave every meeting shitfaced is irrelevant.

>>673313553
after you became a freemason , what has changed ?

>>673335660
I think op is kill.

This page was created to be an informal place where we can discuss the non-esoteric aspects of Freemasonry and the activities of our fraternity. All are welcome...masons and non-masons alike.

647 W Bush St
Lemoore, California

>>673334610
Well since OP is apparently gone, I'll answer questions if anyone else has any.

>>673336490
what degree are you? any "evil" Freemasons in your lodge?

>>673336777
3rd degree. We don't have any "evil" masons, but a couple are dicks.

>>673336916
30 degrees to go

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>>673313553
Why do you feel the need to be asked anything

Do freemasons believe in race superiority?

>>673337029
Yeah, I'm probably not gonna fuck with the Scottish Rite. I'm a Shriner though.

>>673337148
I mean, I'm sure some do. But the fraternity as a while doesn't.

>>673337148
Well, most likely due to it's older nature, Free Masonry lodges only accept white men.

Where do I sign up?

>>673336916
you barely joined then? dicks as theyre mean people or think theyre better for being a Freemason?

>>673337029
kek

>>673337181
whats a Shriner?

what kinda dealio is involved when someone leaves the freemasons?
I know someone who did and joined rotary instead, would they have been exposed to death threats like is freemasonry like scientology or islam do they have apostasy?
also I'm curious about joining because from what I've heard it's about the betterment of humanity but idk if i qualify because my religous beliefs are monotheistic but not compatible with the abrahamic religons

>>673313553
If you are a high powered freemason You wouldn't share anything with anyone other than freemasons. I call shenanigans.

>>673337311
This is a lie.

>>673337372
Literally just ask a mason you know to join, and it'll be set in motion.

>>673337372
Look for any local lodges. They usually have informative nights.

Kudos if you know someone that is a Free Mason, or have been invited by one of them.

How do you visualise gear to torque ratios for somone that dosent usually deal with gears.

What is your rank?

>>673337505
>
Hey man we've known eachother for all of 3 minutes now, I think its about time we talk about this mason business and me becoming one.

>>673337505
Not at all. Over the years the practice has become more open, but originally exclusive to white males.

>>673314647
What do you do for a living, do you consider yourself somone with nothing left to lose?

>>673337401
I'm a Master Mason, which is as high as you can go without going into one of the offshoot branches.

A Shiner is an offshoot of masonry. They completely fund the Shriners hospitals for children.

>>673313553
My great grandfather was a freemason, can I join?

>>673337416
Literally nothing happens to you if you leave voluntarily or are kicked out. As long as you believe in a deity you're good to go.

>>673337685
Perhaps originally, when you said "Free Masonry lodges only accept white men" it could easily be interpreted as that is still a current practice.

>>673337719
what? youre a 3rd degree mason, but also a master mason? cant go higher unless youre in an offshoot branch, which you are in one right? Shriner branch.
do you believe in God? Infinite Creator?

all of these people, being a part of something.. do you really think it matters?

in 200 years no one will remember any of this shit. life literally has no value. why make such a big deal out of it?

>>673337289
are all freemasons drunk on fridays? wtf you guys make more spelling mistakes than my retarded cousin

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sup brethren.
MM from UK here.

>>673313553

I have a bunch of Freemasons in my family.

They won't tell me shit.

So... What is it you hope to find in the east?

>>673337862
Sure

>>673338055
Yeah, by competing your rd degree you become a master mason. The whole 33rd Degree mason is a part of the Scottish Rite branch. I'm in the shiners, but there's no more degrees in there.

I was a christfag when I joined, but I've recently converted to Odinism. You can't be an Atheist, probably not agnostic either but there's some grey area there imho.

>>673338022
While most modern lodges do accept people of colour, women still not accepted most of the time.

>>673338055
Free Masons believe in all higher beings.

>>673338152
you die twice anon. when you breathe your last breathe and the last time someone thinks about you.
life is nothing but value. humanity is still being decided. humans are social creatures. they like belonging to groups.
why so negative anon?

>>673338152
>why make such a big deal out of it?

They way I see it, it's about taking good men and making better men. It's about making the world a better place day by day one small act of kindness at a time.

I look at it this way. If someone is having a shit day and you help them out, their day is no longer shit. Or less shitty at the least. You made the world slightly better.

>>673338198
All? No. A lot of them? Probably. I'm just shit at spelling right now because it's 4 in the morning and I'm tired.

>>673338416
>women still not accepted most of the time

No they are not, but there is a reason for it.

>>673338409
got it. did you have a ritual for becoming a master mason?

what's Odinism?

>>673338416
do they believe in all or one higher being? i went to the local lodge and read they accept members of all religions. just need to believe in a higher power. read online its because they worship Lucifer ultimately.

>>673338022
If i don't believe in a diety, can i still join?
I'm agnostic.

>>673338645
>and the last time someone thinks about you.
Our second deaths are a fabricated self, or an existence created by others. People won't remember our "true self," just a "self" they made with subjective memories and bias opinions. People are changed after they die when they are used to serve another person, quotes used out of context, etc.

>>673339007
I have no problem with that, actually. Although it is mostly found ancient to accept only certain types of people, I find that it's just another way for forming a pyramid scheme. (Which is, if you think about it, the only way of running a society properly.)

>>673339037
All higher beings, or rather, all higher beings combined. They do not worship Satanic gods exclusively. They're definitely not Satanist, and are rather bound to "positive" gods.

>>673334150
> Odinism

Norse mythology essentially.

>>673339463

Lucifer =/= Satan

>>673339535

Meant for >>673339037

>>673339037
There is a ritual for at least all of your first 3 degrees, and for just having a stated meeting.

>what's Odinism?
Worshiping the Norse Gods, with the primary focus on Odin.

>do they believe in all or one higher being?

Each mason can worship whatever deity he wants. But freemasonry as a whole has a vague term for all deities.

>read online its because they worship Lucifer ultimately.

No, it's not lucifer. It'd be a little hard to worship someone I don't think is real lol. There's actually a funny story behind that. The vague term for all the deities used(It's now something else, so I'm not breaking any oath) to be the God Of All Things. Goat. Symbol of satan. People incorrectly made the assumption they were connected.

>>673339535
Of course, I know that. Although Lucifer is mostly associated with Satanism, and I thought it would clear things up a bit more if I told them that Masons aren't Satanic.

>>673313553
I filled out the application form and applied to the grand lodge under the MAS

How long before I hear back?
It's been 4weeks

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>>673339666

Fitting trips, checked 'em.

>>673339743
Quite fitting, haha.

>>673330453
Tell me how low you are at the moment.

>>673339219
I'm not sure, probs not though. You have to believe in a higher power and it's probably supposed to be a specific deity(because reasons I can't talk about).

>>673339738
Shit man, I dunno. What state? In my state you fill out your petition and three brothers have to sign it. Then it gets sent to grand lodge for approval. It get laid over for a month, and then the brethren vote on you.

>>673340103
Why is it your organization requires religion?

What are 5 rules you can absolutely not break?

>>673313553
What's the secret of Solomon's temple?

Why do you have to believe in a God to join?

>>673340103
More specifically I'm a spiritual agnostic who adopts some laveyan satanist traits.
i believe there could be divine beings, but I've never been influenced by any of them. So I make myself the best person I can be on my own.

Still not sounding like I could join?

>>673313553
I have a question OP: When you were given the 2nd Degree, did you cry?

> I did. I wept despite my best efforts.

How close are you guys to Hermeticism and other strands of neoplatonism? I only know you consider Crowley a fraud.

>>673340310
>>673340416

It's to ensure the oaths you take are binding. More along the lines of if you just swear something and you break that oath, whoopdie-fucking-doo. If you swear to a deity, you might be less prone to break that oath because you might incur their wrath or whatever. That's how it was explained to me anyway.

>>673339455
checked. thank you anon. this is what i need to read and further dissect. do you believe in reincarnation?

>>673339463
Lucifer is "positive" right? we wouldnt truly have free will if not for him. also all the earthly pleasures, except love, we get to experience in this earth is because of the Light Bringer.

>>673339535
so you'll be riding shiny and chrome onto valhalla? whats their Apocalypse story?
so is satan, the devil and Lucifer different entities or all one like the father, son and holy spirit?

>>673339666
Morningstar?

>>673340103
Australia
MAS is membership assistance scheme

Would it be a mistake to email the membership guy and ask about how far my application has progressed.

>>673340545
I'm leaning towards no. Sorry dog. It wouldn't hurt to ask though, you might be near a more liberal lodge(i.e. in CA they let women in).

>>673340552
I'm not sure why you would cry at all on the second degree.

>>673340600
>>673313553
bump

>>673340818
I'm in Washington and its full of liberals.
Perhaps they'll be lenient.

Thanks man.

>>673340818
>i.e. in CA they let women in
I'm pretty sure those are not considered "real" lodges by most of your kind mates.

Is there any significance with prime numbers in freemasonry? If so, can you state how?

>>673340737
Our Apocalypse story is Ragnarok.

>>673340757
I honestly have no idea how Aussie lodges work, they apparently differ greatly just by the state here. I'd just wait it out another week or two and then if you get no word I'd contact them.

>>673340818
Perhaps my lodge did the ceremony in a different order than yours...? I'm referring to the staircase, and most specifically, (regarding the tears) the passage about 'true beauty' and 'stoop shoulders with silver hair'
>...mother......?

>>673339650
any drinking of blood? is the humiliation ritual a thing? could just be hollywood rituals

what is Odins beliefs? rules?

just because you dont believe in the devil doesnt mean he doesnt believe in you. love that saying. i thought the goat was baphomet?

>>673340962
I mean, it would not hurt to ask at all.

>>673340964
What California does is their business and none of mine. It might be an iffy thing to do looking at Masonry as a whole, but lodges only answer to the Grand Lodge of their state and nothing further.

>>673340975
3, 5, & 7. I can't say why, but I think I can say that much.

>>673341036
can you do a quick summary? is it similar to revelations?

>>673340975
Look up things like rodin coils, fubinocchi sequences and pynthagerean math, the way there are mathmatical harmonies in shape, sacrid geometry. The blueprints of the universe are out there, interconnected and in harmony. Any startong point is a fingertip into gripping the edges of the universe. All numbers are relevent, its what you do with them.

>>673341036
Thanx m8

Will they do a police check or financial/credit rating check on me without telling me?

Also, I believe in God but not in a religion. Is that kool?

>>673340975
>>673341359
why cant you say anon? would knowing help us in day to day events?

>>673341442
awesome. thanks anon. can we humans manipulate/harness energy around us?

>>673341239
The staircase is in the second in my state, but we just did a double second degree a couple weeks ago but the rest of what you're mentioning isn't ringing a bell. I've learned ritual varies GREATLY from state to state.

>>673341247
No
....no?
It's way to much to get into here, but there are the 9 Noble Virtues and stuff.

>>673341583
>awesome. thanks anon. can we humans manipulate/harness energy around us?
This is not some magic secret cult, moron. These are boring, religious men, too afraid to let in some pussy. Their "secrets" are more mundane than you'd think. Most are not even secrets anymore, they just enjoy pretending to be the "keepers" of it.

>>673329986
mahabone

>>673341442
For example looking at the big picture in statistics. .. it would be intellegent to plant a tree. If humanity snuffs itself out the air would be clean for the next thing to rise to complexity. Or the last generation could draw breath to curse our greed that laid them low. While we exchange hot air they could do more good by action in the same breath.

>>673318228
How do you join?

Where I live, Portugal, there aren't many lodges and I fear the only good Lodge might be in Lisbon.

>>673313553
How's trubal Cain going?

>>673328832
shut up you homosexual

>>673342078
Kek rekt

>>673341368
Just a few thing about Ragnarok off the top of my head are the three roosters crowing, the sun and moon will be swallowed by great wolves, one of the earliest signs of ragnarok will be a winter that lasts several years, the world will flood, The giants and other beasts will wage war with the Gods and the Einherjar and almost all the Gods will die and so will every human besides two. The flood will recede and the two humans will repopulate the earth.

>>673341506
They will definitely do a background check.

>>673341583
It's just a part of a ritual. And that's among the shit I can't talk about.

>>673317170
mahabone

>>673313553
Are u the guys with funny hats who ride around on little cars?

>>673341583
Consider what technology allows once was considered unattainable and in the relm of magic. By the time we have in our grasp understanding and use of what you seek average himanity will find it mundane keep your sense of wonder it drives the species forward.

>>673342254
kek

>>673323845
mahabone

>>673342254
Those are Shiners, I am one but I don't do the little cars. All Shriners are masons, but not all masons are Shiners.

>>673340737
>>673339455
>do you believe in reincarnation?
I've thought about it, there has been people that I could think of as bodhisattvas. Currently I figure a person can live his or her current life, "self actualization" being the main goal; and when death comes hope to have peace of mind. I don't know what is important about things a person likely can't know, eg. things before birth and after death.