We need assault weapons to defend us from a tyrannical government you fuck.

Assault weapons aren't to defend from criminals. They're to defend from the government.

>>672664653
>i'm unhappy with the people i voted for
>let's kill them with assault weapons
do you really think this would work? why can't you just vote for someone else the next time, like a civilized person would do?

>>672664385

Please define assault weapon for me.

>>672664653
ar-15 vs f-16
yea seems legit

>>672666178
Worked fine for vietcong..worked fine for iraqi's..worked fine for afghani's etcetc

>>672664385
Way too many guns to begin with inside of the US. If you ban assault weapons, people will just buy them off the black market. This applies to all guns really, no matter what heavy regulation you put, the country is fucked with guns. There are simply too much in general for any law to have serious effect. Plus, gun culture is a thing and well humans are hard headed.

>>672665066
bruh you hella dumb

If it's semi-auto, it ain't an "assault weapon".

>>672666303
ar-15 vs M1
seems legit

We don't need assault weapons but we want them because they are dangerous and cool! Kind of like:
Ferraris
Monster trucks
Porn star girlfriends/boyfriends
MDMA
Swimming pools
Gay Bathhouses (you're from San Francisco, so you understand this one)
Bareback Sex

>>672666633
12 year old detected

>>672666718
Someone with a dick in his mouth detected

>>672666812
yea so whats wrong with that faggot?

>>672666178
do u really think they will level whole NY just cause they got 1000 guys with guns inside?

>>672666858
Nothing, some fags want to suck dick snd some want to own assault weapons,
Deal with it!

No, people kill.

Assault weapons just look scary. (This is pretty much the actual meaning of "assault weapons")

Ok fuck you it's called an assult rifle! Any weapon u use to assult someone is an assult weapon. Just because you live in the city doesn't mean u can be retarded on 4chan and get away with it, new fag

>>672666318
It's mostly the legal market that supplies the illegal market so regulating production would make it harder for illegal gun sales which would get better over time as guns got taken off the street when used in a crime.

>>672664385
>nigger from Oakland detected
>inb4 "I'm not from Oakland"

To defend ourselves from faggots like you

>>672666939
My guns are lazy fucks. Set one down and say, "Go kill someone". But it just fucking lays there.

>>672664385
Lots of things kill. Also, hurr durr constitution.

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>>672666303

>Worked fine for vietcong

No it didn't, you punk.

First the Vietcong had the support of the North Vietnamese Army and the Soviet Union and China. Second more than 1,000,000 North Vietnames and Vietcong died in that conflict as opposed to 70,000 US troops. You call that a victory?

>worked fine for iraqi's..worked fine for afghani's etcetc

Yeah, because they blow themselves up all the time, live in the desert or remote mountain areas, shit in holes and don't know what toilet paper is.

Also the average american redneck is was to fat and reliable on modern technology to survive that life-style.

>>672666090
Haha, op is a faggot and won't answer this question

The entire point of the 2nd amendment was to protect against the federal government reaching into every aspect of life. Which people let happen anyway coz free money. So what's the point of it?

>>672667116
Besides the fact that there are already millions of unregistered or stolen firemarms sitting in air ducts all across the US. It's far too late for that.

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>>672666922

>do u really think they will level whole NY just cause they got 1000 guys with guns inside?

Do you really think people in NY are that much backwoods rednecks that they will take part in nonsense like that?

>>672666922
1000 guys vs 1000 marines
the most legit thing ive ever heard!

>>672664385
Because only good people follow the law, and criminals break it: meaning theres no reason why the group of people who is law-abiding should have to be dis-empowered in anyway

>>672667401
It would take to long to improve so do nothing? Illegal guns are easily replaced as things are now. You guys are all military types, you must understand the tactical advantage of cutting off supply.

>>672664385
because gun supporters are the majority, you are the minority

I dont get why this is so hard to understand, the only possible way to not understand is to be stupid or to literally have NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT IT AT ALL.

again and again they try for gun legislation, and again and again they fail, and then search for some hidden magical meaning why WAS IT THE SAFETY GODS WHO STOPPED US? WAS IT RACISM!?!? : Newsflash, there are more of us than there are of you retards. Thats how fucking democracy works, if your policy fails you are a minority and your opinion doesn't apply to anything that matters right now, wait until you are the majority or shut the fuck up.

Wv is about to get constitutional carry, and ohio may end up getting it within th next few years as well. How does that fucking feel OP, not only are you DEAD FUCKING WRONG in thinking any state but faggotfornia will have any kind of permanent gun control. BUT STEPS ARE ACTIVELY TAKING PLACE THIS MONTH TO INCREASE GUN FREEDOMS, I WILL BE ABLE TO CARRY A WEAPON WITHOUT A LICENSE OR REGISTRATION OF ANY KIND. AND SOON ILL BE ABLE TO GET AN ASSAULT WEAPON WITHOUT A CHECK OF ANYKIND HAHAHHAHAHAH.

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>>672667699
the pepper spray thing happened where im from
they are blocking a path which is not protected under the 1st amendment
father yourself my friend and learn something about the world
the cop warned them 3 times
they had no right to be there

>>672667224
Most rednecks I know go through hunting season without modern tech.

>>672666928
you can't compare the right to love who you want with the "right" to own instruments of death that should be reserved for the military

>>672667224
>You call that a victory?
>not factoring in the US-backed South Vietnamese casualties.
>Not knowing the North Vietnamese won the fucking war...and then conquered Cambodia
Do you even know shit?

>>672667699
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UC_Davis_pepper-spray_incident
source has now been provided

>>672666178
see here fucktard: when the military starts telling its members to kill swathes of its population they defect

Just what kind of people do you think join the military you raging inferno of intellect? Sjws? NO, gun loving normal americans and dropouts do. What side do you think the first sort were raised on? Thats right the hillbilly-lets-fight-the-gubbmint- right wing side.

How are they going to make bombs when the population has stopped working? how are they going to make port with carriers to refuel?

How is soldier joe going to feel when he finds out his mother father brother and sister were firebombed last week because rebels are in their neighborhood? Hes going to feel PRETTY FUCKING SALTY

>>672667591
I love your assumptions of me. And as much as I don't trust criminals, I trust those who are capable of cutting off supply even fucking less.

A criminal will kill you, but a government will fuck you in the ass for the rest of your life.

>>672664385
So you're back and calling people name.
Real adult of you. Pro slavery? trying to shame them too it appears.
What a waste.

"assault weapons" are a term made up by politicians based purely on aesthetics, actual assault weapons are what the military uses - full auto sometimes short barrel rifles neither of which are available to civilians without massive amounts of paperwork and money. to give you an idea of what makes up an "assault weapon" - one of the "evil" features is a bayonet lug, like somehow attaching a knife to a gun is what will make it dangerous.

it really makes me cringe when someone who knows nothing about something wants to be the one to choose how to regulate it.

>>672668071
OP here, i'm not black. My bf is black though

>>672666718
Wow what an answer. Educated too.

>>672667969
notunderstandinghowtheworldworks/10
u r literally retarded lmfao

>>672667969
I mean, how many instances in vietnam have you heard of a guy risking his life and freedom, being jailed as a traitor TO SAVE THE ENEMY FROM BEING EXCECUTED. And you think they would kill our own population? Now you know the real reason for drones, they cant say no.

>>672664385
Because filthy mudslimes will take away ur porn when they invade thats why

>>672668186
Confirmed faggot

>>672667890
Yes you can, it's called freedom. I have 6 assault rifles in my gun collection and none has killed anybody. I have a brother who has HIV and that irresponsible fucker has slept around and potentially infected dozens of people.

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>>672667699

How exactly was that family of inbreeds defending their right to free speech? Is was about some asshole refusing to pay taxes and his armed posse of domestic terrorists supporting him in it.

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>>672668279
make a point and we can talk about it, if you are blatantly butthurt and cant come up with anything to say at least post a good pic instead of wasting time. Have a good day tho m8

>>672668186
I take back the educated statement.

>>672664385
because there is no such thing as an assault weapon. assault is an action, inanimate objects are incapable of actions.

It's really a very simple concept. The ability of every citizen to legally own a gun is about distributing power, and preventing unbalance. That's why it's in the constitution:

1. Banning LEGAL guns will result in only criminals having guns. That's bad.

2. Banning CIVILIAN guns, means only the government has guns. That's worse.

Not to mention that, in a legal system that runs on precedent, remvong one ammendment from the constitution sets you on the road where even more basic freedoms are under threat.

Idiotic liberal assholes are so caught up in their "think of the children!" bullshit they'll literally ask the government to take away their rights in return for "safety".

>>672664385

In my country guns are heavily restricted - that is: only mafia, camorra, ndràngheta, sacra corona unita, jews have them.

>>672664385
Tyranny

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>>672667699
Dubs dont lie

>Chekt

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>>672668432
ur gay haha

>>672664385
Insane people kill more then assault weapons.
Stupidity kills people more then assault weapons.
We should rid ourselves of those two before trying to overextended.

>>672668362
that dude is a weapon of ass destruction amirite

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>>672668309

>when they invade

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>>672668542
thats more like it, savd

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>>672668581
So, ur saying we should...purge the undesirables? Go on...

>>672668613
He is a huge queen!

>>672668473
no reason to put the word liberal in their, idiots in general wont take into consideration all the concepts of any arguement

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>>672664385

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Gun control works!

>>672668796
My fucking sides m8

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More great things gun control produced..

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Yeah, these people were way better off without assault rifles..

>>672668899
dam if the jews had fought back full tilt imagine how much that would have exacerbated the war. On side note look how big that fucking trench is, what a waste of time. Or did they just fill in a trench they were using for warfare and then cover it up?

>>672668971
In hindsight, the mudslimes should've been the victims

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>>672668729
Not at all, just that we are disgustingly lax and have the "they are just like us" mindset when they are not. That doesn't mean we should treat them negatively, just accordingly.
As for stupidity thats a problem with are 4th world education system, where its more important that kids get pushed thru schooling regardless of their actions or if they even have a will to do anything with their life (no child left behind) then it is to make sure school loans don't bankrupt them for life. The place where a class centered around logical thinking isnt needed to graduate

>>672669019
Should've been mudslimes

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>>672664385
Every right you give up makes you less free.

>>672669094
shotgun for hd is a meme use a handgun or have fun with your possibly permanent hearing damage , blindness, and inability to turn corners inside your house without being seen because your gun is too long to keep in front of you.

>>672669116
Neo Hitler is intrigued, will the goat rapists be included in this purge?

>>672669213
i didn't mention anything about a purge troll.

this whole thread is bait and you're all faggots lol

>>672667895
The North didn't win shit. The US retreated because the populous demanded it.

inb4 dumb ameritard
>actually German with University degree

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>>672669263
U just did

>Chekm8

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>>672669198
And: typically the people writting laws know nothing about forearms or their function. They ban guns as assault weapons based purely on its looks. Because it LOOK like a machine gun, or itLOOKS like what the military uses. If I wrap a plastic body around my rifle so it looks like a phazer rifle does that mean we need phazer regulation?

Hands not handguns, are the weapon of choice for criminals, yet where is the background check for Karate classes?

>>672664385
Even though this is likely bait, let me point out a few things.

First, military style assault weapons ARE illegal to own for 99% of people to own. Only people with Dealer/Collector class 3 licenses can own a full-auto, military style assault rifle. What the media and leftys like you call an assault rifle, really is no more than a regular rifle painted black or cammo that has been accessorized the fuck out.

Secondly, there is a REASON our founders made owning weapons a right, to prevent Tyranny. Now, you might think that a rag-tag band of barely armed patriots could never hope to fight the awesome power of our military under the command of a tyrant. Go ask Viet Nam about that. You might think such tyranny is not possible in the US. Really? The Constitution is, after all, just words on parchment. Our current president has ignored the fuck out of it. Imagine if someone -really- evil got in power.

>>672669211
Use a shotgun for home protection:
1. The sound of racking a shotgun will make most intruder think twice.
2. Buckshot is effective close in and you don't have to carefully aim, just point and shoot.
3. Buckshot less penetrative through average construction of walls, pellets are lead and deform, losing energy quickly.
I shot a guy, through a wall with a .45 and it went through the wall, through the guy and stopped in a wall behind him.

idiots people die because of guns

>>672669806
I use 12 gauge slugs instead

>>672669476
the statement is "i didn't mention anything about a purge"

it's saying that, in the past, i didnt mention anything about a purge, and if the statment is used in the present, then it is correct.

i know you are just a mindless "le i got you!!!" troll, but really, you can do better.

>>672669838
And because:
Drunk drivers
Swimming pools
Undercooked food
Medical malpractice
Unsafe sex
Sky diving
Holy Shit!!! We got a bunch of things we need to ban!!!!!

>>672669989
Like that one off?

>>672669918
That works too! They are accurate with rifled sights out to 100-125 yards.

>>672670005
don't forget bread and air!
100% death rate

>>672670129
Who needs sights when ur sitting in a black leather lazyboy?

>>672670146
Oh, eill the threats never end? Maybe we need to ban the one common denominator:

Human Beings

>>672667489
Marines wouldn't take part in that scenario they specifically are here to protect the constitution and citizens marines are most likely to separate and join the fight against the government

>>672670286
Nope we needs to ban living!

>>672670232
Boy there's two words that conjure up images, black and lazyboy

>>672670329
The army would then follow cool half bro cus army is retard

>>672670373
Not just black but a black Corinthian leather lazyboy recliner with a built in drink cooler in the arm

>>672669776

First, military style assault weapons ARE illegal to own for 99% of people to own. Only people with Dealer/Collector class 3 licenses can own a full-auto, military style assault rifle. What the media and leftys like you call an assault rifle, really is no more than a regular rifle painted black or cammo that has been accessorized the fuck out.

First, when it comes to weapons they have several finishes to choose from. Nickle, chrome, and blued. The blued finish is black in color.

Second the accessorized ones are legal. You can go to any LGS and buy a laser sight or flashlight attachment.

Third (michigan here, not sure about the rest of the country)
Full auto is completly legal. The costs involved are stupid expensive. The msrp on the weapon goes up quite a bit, then you have sales tax. Then you have the atf fees, and finally you have the tax stamp. It makes owning a full auto anything not worth it.

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>>672664385
weapons make people safe

>>672670329
wrong. marines take an oath to protect from threats both foreign and domestic
they would be lied to just like they were to fight in the war in iraq
you guys are fucking nut jobs i swear

>>672666178
Who would fly those f-16s

>>672664385
what makes them being hypoctitical?

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> that moment when you realise that dems don't understand or want to understand that the democratic party was huge backers of slavery and tried to keep firearms out of freed blacks hands.

> Calls Republicans racist when Republicans ended slavery, Republicans put firearms into minorities hands because it was their right.

> The US needs a third party to hopefully seperate some of these SJW Apple starbucks fags from blindly following democrat side.

>>672670673
a fucking f-16 pilot retard
good god you fuckers are dumb

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>>672669455
Tell me mr German, would my great great grandfather Adolf approve of mudslimes raping the women of Germany?

ITT: Liberal faggots that enjoy the flavor and smell of Bernie Sanders smegma.

>>672670768
No, we just need Trump

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>>672670660
False domestic meaning our government
And yes the marines get used and abused but Mattis doesn't fuck around nor does the commandant marines won't kill our citizens can't say the same about the army tho
Source: former marine

>>672670844
Yes, my great great grandfather WAS Hitler.

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/k/ here
I will start to post reasons why "assault weapons" are not a problem at all.

>>672670976
Dad, please get off

>>672665066
>I'm unhappy with the people I voted for
What if you didn't vote for them

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>>672670544
Man, I thought they had hunted the Corinthians to extinction after Paul told them in his letter that their supple skin was good upholstery!

Of course then they discovered Nagahide when American was discovered.

>>672664385
cars kill, water kills, the sun kills, food kills, dogs kill, sharp sticks and rocks kill, lying still for to long kills, everything dies, deal with it

>>672671098
Yeah I don't feel like having an argument anyway

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>>672667895
Wasnt a war

>>672665066
Can you not fucking read?

Defend from doesn't mean attack, Captain fucking autismo.

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>>672671330
New hampshire has no niggers though. They have upstanding black people. I've lived there. I want to go back.

>>672671409
True, it is a great state!

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>>672670631

Post the definitions of a violent crime in each country.

Then explain how a firearm would reduce that violence in the context of each countries definition of a violent crime.

Pulling out of you ass isn't hard. Interpreting the correct is the achievement.

>pic related

Another totally out of context statistic gun nuts like to pose on top.

>>672669806
This is the bad advice/bullshit trifecta! good job asshat!

>>672671330
Nigger factor. Not that I agree with more gun control but the nigger factor is the most important.

>>672671554
What's your experience with guns numbnuts

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>>672671330
here's an entertaining one

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>>672670625
current production military select fire weapons fall into the category you are talking about, pre 86 weapons are perfectly legal for anyone to own with proper paperwork and boatloads of money.

>>672671250
Yes, because it's government who does school shootings and attacks citizens

>>672671659
amazing how anti-gun arguments are basically fallacies in and of themselves

>>672671726
You mean like at Waco?

>>672669455
So the US were forced to retreat without achieving their objectives. Sounds like a loss to me.

>>672671637
6 years combat experience and 12 years as a trainer.

>>672671538
>Then explain how a firearm would reduce that violence

Because having a gun culture is one of the single largest deterrents to crime along with having an education. A criminal is much less likely to act if he thinks he could be shot dead for mugging someone. A criminal who knows he can't be apprehended immediately is more willing to get into a scuffle. Now the UK has a knife problem and more crime than the US percentage wise.

>>672664653
works pretty well in syria as we speak.

Unless they start selling tanks and jets to us, too, assault weapons won't help

I'm sorry to break it to you, my redneck bro, but this stupid law was from a time when guns actually gave you power

>>672671805
Explain

>>672671637
Not him but he definitely has more than you because you're fucking retarded

>>672671776
Let us know when you have some specifics on the reign of terror the government is planning.

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>>672671172
>tfw all the anti-gunners ignored this because it shits on their "arguments"

>>672672002
>knife problem
And do you know what does USA have? School shooting problem.

>>672671927
LAPD firearms instructor, 24 years on the job and 3 officer involved shootings; two using a shotgun inside a dwelling.

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>>672669806
Fixing this for you
1. Never rack your shotgun. If the intruder is high or has a weapon of his own, you've just given away any element of surprise you have. Load the shell slowly, or have it already loaded and on safe.
2. Make sure your safety is off if you have an intruder.
3. Buckshot is strong and heavy. Buckshot can and will penetrate drywall and most thin walls easily. Use #2 or smaller buckshot to get good damage and minimal wall penetration.
4. If your 45 went through a guy, stop using FMJ and get some proper self defense hollow points. Preferably bonded.

There you go.

>>672671659
Why a psychotic argument. What a fucking batshit crazy attempt at voicing your opinion. If you like your rights then you're better off being a terrorist? Fuck you. Jesus christ.

>>672670005
You do realise you just listed a bunch of things that are illegal right

>>672672156
Yeah? Well I go to an American high school, I've seen more guns than either of you

>>672672156
if you are the same guy giving the advice about racking a shotgun you are just lying about this.

Hands down you are just making shit up about your "experience"

Even without my history a novice can do a cursory search on any type of training and realize what you are claiming is utter and complete bullshit

>>672668140
How easy would it be to obtain a semiautomatic and convert it to fully automatic?

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>>672668796
>>672668899
>>672668971

Wow, that is really classy and shows a lot of respect of the victims.

Any person that believe that the jews had a chance of saving themselves by being armed is an utter moron that now nothing about history a.k.a. the average american conservative. The jews were outnumbered 100 to 1 in Germany.

The german Wehrmacht defeated the military of several nations but the jews who lived in those countries, would have certainly stopped the Wehrmacht, hat they only be armed. You have to be a mongoloid or an American to believe that.

>>672672213
Because its the consequence of the "fuck the government" attitude. Sadly, you rednecks never experienced it, otherwise you would sing a different tune

>>672672177
yea and he claims he has 24 years as an instructor and served on the lapd.

He is either a troll or a 12 year old trying to sound cool

>>672664385
my main argument is hurr durr constitution. Please counter it properly.

>>672672032
ATF went to compound with SWAT team.
Davidians resisted their warrant service and fired back. Created a month long standoff that ended when a fire erupted during a second assault by FBI SWAT.
The whole thing was about the arrest of one man, cult leader David Koresh. If ATF had not believed their own hype about the Davidians they could have staked out the placed and arrested Koresh when he drove into town, avoiding the warrant service and the shoot out.

>>672672177
Most intruders don't want to get into a gun fight. If you want to kill someone then by all means go all Sam Fisher. If you just want to be safe then scaring them off is the better option.

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>>672664385
Rifles of all types, not just semi-auto "assault weapons", will kill around 250-300 people this year in our country of 300 million people. This includes people killed by police and killed in self defense. That's less than the number of people who will be killed by hammers, bats, and other blunt objects. Five times as many people will be killed by knives. The number of people killed by rifles is getting lower every year. It's 30% lower now than it was in 2003, before the assault weapons ban expired.
All violent crime is getting lower across the board. At a time when a record number of firearms are owned by a record number of people, violent crime is at its lowest levels in 40 years. http://time.com/3577026/crime-rates-drop-1970s/
Scapegoating so called "assault weapons" and trying to legislate for these statistical anomalies is a fool's errand.

>>672672177
Oh thanks so much oh wise one!
Worlds foremost authority ladies and gentlemen!

>>672672391
well, it is a complicated question,

legally not difficult but expensive and requiring paperwork.

illegally not super difficult but then what? if you ever pop off a burst it will attract attention.

>>672672538
An intruder that has chosen to risk his life to break in to my home to either steal or harm my family or myself does not get any consideration for their well being from me. They know they're risking their life by breaking into my home, and if I have to take it, I will with no remorse.

>>672664385
The whole point of the 2nd amendment is so we can form a militia; kinda hard to do that with just hand guns and hunting rifles. The point of america is we are free, if we want to have weapons it is the right of a free person to choose to be armed. It is a tool, I can use it for illegal purposes or legal ones, don't ban the tool or I'll just get it illegally to do my illegal things if I were so inclined.
tl;dr: hurr durr constitution.

>>672672354
What do you want my resume?
How do we know you are who you say you are?

>>672672124
>And do you know what does USA have? School shooting problem.

And you know what the UK has? A knife problem. Which one is more deadly? Which one permeates the culture more thoroughly? Which has killed more innocent people? Which one is more easily solved? Which law is now so awful that kitchen knives are being considered being banned? Dumb fuck. Think your argument through instead of latching onto a particular tragedy and then responding by passing gun control laws that will harm hundreds of millions of people in order to save 39 people from being killed on a Tuesday. Fucking nonthinking douche.

>>672672119
Because that's not about assault rifles

>>672672578
You're welcome. Take it to heart and learn.

>>672672456
LAPD? I think we found the problem.

>>672672391
plus the risk vs reward is pretty insane, if you just want to shoot an automatic there are places to do it, building one illegally just carries too much risk.

>>672672174
This is clearly the creative writing of a fantasist. Can't you see that?

>>672672456
And where do you work? Whats your background?

Because fuck you. It's my right to own whatever firearm I want. If I want an ak47 I'll have an ak47. If I want to go fill out the paperwork to buy an 80mm mortar that too is my right. The second amendment is about the people being able to stand against a tyrannical government, if the government wants to disarm us they will have to pick our weapons up off our bodies, there is no compromise.

>>672670102
You mean 10 off, idiot!

>>672670976
domestic meaning threats on our soil
0/10 ur not even a marine id be willing to bet

>>672664385
>we homosexuals are going to fix society!

Get pozzed and die, faggot

>>672664385

We need them because Marxists like YOU know what Lenin, Mao, and Stalin knew is that you can do anything you want to the masses once they're defenseless.

Which is your goal. You're not interested in making streets safer. You just want mass social controls.

>>672672685
i don't need your resume, your words give you away. no one with that much experience would ever be that clueless.

you only want my credentials because you are caught in a lie and you have no other argument.

Also, I haven't tried to give any bad advice just called you out on yours and anyone with even a month of experience under their belt would recognize your advice as terrible so.

>>672672826
You're literally saying you're giving permission for your mass murderers to commit mass murder because freedums.

>>672672715
Oh yes, thank you, thank you, my eyes have been opened Mr. Combat Vet...
Right....

>>672672444
>Because its the consequence of the "fuck the government" attitude. Sadly, you rednecks n

So agreeing with our government on its laws is fuck the government? Desiring a healthy tax rate that can be legally agreed upon in a congressional senate by leaders is fuck the government or redneck? You stupid fuck.

>>672672566
>the one time I miss that it was a
>.gif

FUCK YOU MAN. FUCK YOU

'BECAUSE I WANT A GUN SINCE I DON'T TRUST THE GOVERNMENT OR THE CONSTITUTION WHICH SAYS THE PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO REMOVE POWER FIGURES IF NECESSARY, but I will still quote the constitution in saying I have the right to a gun for an amendment written before there was an organized police force.' You people are pathetic.

>>672672940
How so?

The advice was directed towards the average citizen, not a swat operator, soldier or cop.

>>672672616
And what about the potential consequences to yourself? Legal consequences, psychological consequences, the possibility of physical harm.

Gather your family in a relatively safe room, call the police, set off your panic alarm and ready your weapon. Any other advice is dumb, macho bullshit.

>>672664385
you cant remove all of the guns in america its impossible

>>672664385
Define "Assault Weapons".

What's next? Banning bolt action hunting rifles because they're "Snipers"?

Or shotguns because they're guns that shot?

It's not the weapons, it's the lack of respect inherent in your culture.
Far too many idiotic dogmas.

I'm sorry, bub.

It's your faggotry.

>>672672957
Yes. Look how many of us there are. And do you really think our military is going to follow orders to kill American citizens who did nothing other than stand up for themselves? You're a special kind of stupid if you do.

>>672673096
and it is terrible advice for an average citizen.

>>672672974
When someone breaks into your home, armed with their own weapon, be loud and rack your shotgun so they know where you are and will fire on you first. Anyone breaking into your home or property knows the risks and are willing to do anything to get away with it. Let me know how it goes.

>>672664385
you sniveling liberal fucktard.
of course assault weapon s kill.
that's just exactly what we want them to do.

you jut go ahead and set your phaser to stun, and see where that gets you.

fucking idiot.

The problem with this country is that someone would actually say "hurr durr constitution" like its a bad reason to own a gun.

>>672673096
Never mind, the rainstrom passed, I got to set up the range for morning quals.

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>>672672002

>shot dead for mugging someone

Deadly force is a last measure, you fucking retard. That's the law in Britain. You can't shoot someone for looking at you wrong or just attacking you unarmed. But that's what you mongoloids don't get. You believe that owning a gun equals being allowed killing everyone who you FEEL is a thread.

A gun doesn't reduce violence. It increases violence because it can only be used to kill or srsly injure with the risk of death. Pepper spray or a taser are more adequate ways to defend yourself.

>>672664385
Fuck you.. I like guns

>>672673035
they never said that they didnt trust the constitution, they DID say they dont trust the govt. I recognize your argument here, but at the same time, your information on your argument is false, check your facts before you spout your crap.

>>672666090
it's for vaporizing fucking criminals who want to take your shit.

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>>672664385
Because the banning of weapons would allow the government to become tyrannical. There would be nothing to stop them if we didn't have weaponry to fight back against that. And you can't van weapons you fuck wits. Pic related

>>672673035
>'BECAUSE I WANT A GUN SINCE I DON'T TRUST THE GOVERNMENT

So quoting the idiots on our side of a particular argument means we should go and do the thing you want to do? Not because it would be better for the country, which it wouldn't be, but because you painted a picture of a dumb redneck for us? That's supposed to sway me?

>>672672696

>Which one is more deadly?

You think knifes are more deadly than guns? Does you handler know you are using the classroom PC again?

>>672673201
I don't know where you are getting this information but that is not how gun owners view gun ownership.

Stop getting your views of America from movies and cartoons.

>>672673104
"When seconds count, the police are minutes away." I will not risk my families or my own life to cower from a criminal who's chosen to risk their life by breaking into my property. I do not know their intent, and I do not want nor care to risk my family and myself to find out. The problem with this country today is faggots thinking criminals who do violent crimes and things such as that matter. For some reason, they're more worried about the criminals life than the victims. It's goddamned insanity.

>>672673247
I'm saying that their distrust of the government amounts to ignorance, since they aren't remembering they have the legal power to remove government figures as a populace.

>>672664385
omg, you must be a really dumb kid that knows nothing about guns

>>672673201
>attacking you unarmed
So what if a woman is attacked by a 250lb guy?
She just has to fight back with her fists?

>>672668186
OP literally sucks Obama's dick.

>>672673104
Also, in addendum to my recent post about it being insanity. Castle Doctrine. Any state that allows people to properly defend themselves has this in place.

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>>672673288

>saved thumbnail

Srsly Chad, crawl back into the swamp you just came from.

>>672673201
>You believe that owning a gun equals being allowed killing everyone who you FEEL is a thread.

What in Christ's name are you babbling about, you stupid faggot? A gun culture means a criminal will think twice before mugging, not that we can shoot and kill everyone. Fucks sake, do you have down syndrome?

>>672664385
Because "assault" weapon is a made up term to trigger your fragile little mind. The constitution is an important piece of paper that people like you would wipe their ass with because they haven't an inkling of what it stands for. It's basically why you're able to get on the internet and bitch like an ignorant brat without someone busting down your door, shooting you, and stealing all your shit. Think I'm kidding? Try living in a third world country for a week. I bet you don't make it.

inb4 hurr durr I said no constitution
You really don't get it, do you? Let's try it this way. The law doesn't matter. The actions of the individuals are what truly matter. Let's go with that logic. Now, without a police force to enforce the laws of the land, who would save you from a criminal? Only you would be able to do anything about it but if there was amendments or constitution, you could be living in a country where you're not allowed to own a weapon to defend yourself. You'll basically be at the mercy of the criminal who will have their way with you in any fashion they so desire because you aren't capable of defending yourself.

Now let's say you ARE capable of defending yourself. Let's say you've practiced martial arts your entire life. Let's say you're the world's greatest martial artist even.

Would that save you from a hail storm of bullets through the side of your house?

Of course not.


So now I will close with this statement. Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the country but the highest crime rate as well. Why do you think that is?

It's because criminals don't follow laws. Everyone but you and your idiot liberal friends understand this. Conservatives just want to protect the law from being fucked with so that YOU don't get fucked with, friend. Now how about you chill the fuck out and enjoy your goddamn freedom, you overly privileged little cuntfart. .

>>672673295
Alright then, please explain to me your argument. Spelling out what I said before in more extravagant terms won't make you any less stupid.

>>672670129

Wut? You're using a slug in self defense at 100 yards? Damn son, you got a big house.

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Breivik had guns and cleansed our country for bad politicians.

>>672673201
Britains problem is they put criminals lives before victims. It's partly why europe is being overtaken by sharia law crime is through the roof. Even if you were forced to use deadly force in Britain, you can be CHARGED and serve MUCH time for it. It's fucking stupid.

>>672664385
Here's a good reason. The Constitution.

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>>672673309
>You think knifes are more deadly than guns?

Guess who has the higher crime rate? It's not the US by the way.

>>672673637
You mean the 2nd Amendment, right? You realize how outdated that is? It was written when the 'police force' was still volunteers and minutemen, if there was organized protection at all. The 'organized militia' is no longer necessary now that there is an effective police force.

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>>672673465

>A gun culture means a criminal will think twice before mugging

No, a gun culture means that the criminal will have a gun too because they are so easily to acquire illegally due to their high availability. So he won't just mug you, he'll draw a gun on you and then what?

You could try pulling a "Lucky Luke" and the last thing that will go through your mind before the bullet does is that you aren't in fact a quick draw champ.

>>672673825
This guy the type of nigga who will praise police and their existence when it comes to talking about banning guns, and then turn around and say fuck the police and call them racist and corrupt when they aren't talking about guns. Typical lefty.

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>>672673571

>It's partly why europe is being overtaken by sharia law crime is through the roof.

Are you an idiot or american?

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>>672673979
good lawd

>>672672598
>>672672740
So, if I get a semiautomatic for the purpose of making it into an automatic weapon, I can do that until I'm firing it somewhere outside of the area where it's legal to fire an automatic. And I can practice as much as I can afford in the area where it is legal. If I just wanted to get an automatic to murder a bunch of people publicly, what other barriers would there be?

>>672664653
>Muh ar15 gon prutekt me frum drone strikes

>>672673919
No, I have nothing against the police. When it comes to bigotry or hate crimes, I simply think that we need to recognize not everyone is fit for law enforcement. I don't hate the police force at large.

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>>672670660
They swear an oath to uphold the constitution you dumb fuck. Holy shit you're so fucking stupid please stop posting.

>>672674140
So you're saying we should give up all of our self defense possibilities and 100% trust the job to the police, who take a while to arrive to a scene, but then say that some police don't do their job correctly and shouldn't be law enforcement officers? Why should I put 100% of my trust in someone that possibly wouldn't be fit for that job?

>>672664385
>SF fag
What's your MOS?

>>672673825
>>672673825
so the freedom of speech is outdated. the right to a fair and speedy trial out dated? you do realize that the smartest men of their time wrote that document many of whom will be remembered by name forever while many of the people around today in government will only be remembered by wiki since they literally achieved nothing with the exception of our current president since he was the first African American.

you sound uneducated and if you are you obviously went to the university of limp wrist san fran.

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ITT stupid faggots believe dangerous inanimate objects kill people while logical citizens realize it is in fact dangerous people that kill people.

>ban kitchen knives
>ban cars
>ban airplanes
>hide in a hole

1/8 making me reply.

>>672674303
I'm saying if you can defend yourself from lethal assault, then lethal force is justified. If you have a gun to defend against dangerous assault, I understand. Can I ask you a question? Are you white?

>>672673856
>No, a gun culture means that the criminal will have a gun too because they are so easily to acquire illegally due to their high availability

I agree, but the reason why you and everyone on your side of the argument's point is stupid, is that we already have millions of guns. We aren't like countries that didn't have them or had very few, banning a gun in the United States does not make it disappear, that's why the time honored defense is that if you ban guns, only criminals will have them.

We are steeped in this culture for better or for worse, we can't go back in time, we can only make decisions that will save the most people, and most people benifit from the cowboy gunslinger bullshit ONLY in the context of modern America. We can't start putting the lives of all citizens at risk all the time just to save a few people from school shootings, that's an incredibly nearsighted and myopic way of looking at the issue.

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>>672673825
what other constitutionally protected rights should we adjust for modern technology? founders never could have imagined you would spout such stupid bullshit on the internet so maybe we should ban 4chan. founders never could have imagined women and niggers would be so fucking stupid so maybe they shouldn't be allowed to vote anymore.

>>672670660
>>672670660

its to uphold the constitution you Idiot. Google is your friend. Stop using your feeling as a argument anchor and use actual facts. It will make your life easier and wont make people think you are a total fucking moron.

>>672674483
No, I'm a human. What does race have to do with this? Unless you're one of those democrats from the past who tried to keep guns out of law abiding black citizens hands and supported slavery.

>>672674456
I'd like to think he's a 56X or similar. Fucking pussy.

>>672674504
If only those schools had "No Gun" signs! Then the mass shootings wouldn't have happened! T_T

>>672666633
Roasted lmao

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>>672664385
Because FREEDOM, mother fucker! Do you speak it?

>>672674469
You are aware of the difference, right? Free speech and fair trial are not bound by time, they are eternal freedoms. Guns, police force, and anything in between are a part of rapidly evolving culture and science, and if we rely on a centuries-old statement that has virtually relevance to modern guns, where do we wind up?

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>>672673815
If you gave me a choice between a higher crime rate, but few mass shootings, or a low crime rate with lots of mass shootings, i choose the former.

You can protect against street crime, you can stay indoors when it gets dark, you can do karate. You can't defend against someone going crazy with an assault rifle.

>>672674627
I'm saying that in being white there are considerably less cops who will harm you, which is a sad truth but not a generalization.

>>672667890
I love how you put parenthesis around the right that's been law for the longest just to further your weak-ass argument.

Or should I say, "argument". Kek fucking loser.

>>672668759
So he takes it lying down. Alright then. At least he's proactive about how hard life fucks him over.

>>672674709
I'm still confused at how people don't understand the 2nd amendments purpose. The founding fathers KNEW that without the ability to defend themselves from foreign and domestic threats, that the citizens of a country could be ruled easily. This applies through time, no matter the time. Power corrupts, the ability for the citizens to defend themselves and fight if corruption occurs is a natural right. The founding fathers understood human nature, and what power can do to people without the fear of having said power checked.

>>672674709
>Guns, police force, and anything in between are a part of rapidly evolving culture and science

How is speech not a part of rapidly evolving culture and science? How are we conversing right now? What words aren't okay to say anymore but used to be?

You dick, don't make me type out shit because you didn't think your point through.

>>672664385

Cause you're a nigger, you have no right to tell me how I should or should not defend my life, or the life of any one I care about.

>>672674830
You can if you have your own weapon to fight back. Do you prefer to cower and wait for death, or fight and try to survive in that situation?

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>>672672325
Kek. Get the fuck off 4chan! You're a minor. Unless your just stupid and have been held back. Either way, GTFO!
You ain't seen shit, nigger!

>>672674830
>>672674830

ok kid you are so brain washed. you realise the liberal media was just raped on every media outlet a few months ago for saying there was a mass shooting every fucking day when in reality they took any shooting in which 3 or more people were involved and classified it as such for FBI.org data.

which means any and every gangland style shooting which you call "street crime" which you claim to be protected against is compared to a school shooting.

so in your fucking little brain a drive by is the same as sandy hook..... come on man use your fucking brain.

and as for your last sentence there have been over a dozen mass shootings that were stopped by someone with a gun. yet school shootings are big news however someone with a CCW stopping crime is just a local show. use google and stop being a sheep.

>>672674654
The worst kind of pog

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>>672674836
Just because the major news outlets blow up the screens when 1 black person is killed by a cop, doesn't mean that they are in the majority and getting killed every day. You really need to open up your mind from this pure left crap, there's a big world out there.

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>>672664385
When the black apocalypse comes and I have a assault rifle to beat the hordes wanting to rape your wife and children, don't come to me. But then again I bet you want to be raped by muslims anyway. Oh and watch the news, it's not racism. It's how they act.

>>672675198
>ok kid

Instantly dismissed as a pretentious faggot, go fuck yourself.

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>>672674101

You are comparing a country to a continent, you fucking halfwit! Continent with 47 nations.

You can't honestly be this retarded?!?