>>672312595
i still get bertstared and people sit away from me when i calmly explain why i am against refugees and why it is not good for our country (german here)

>>672312595
I doubt it. It's very easy for a politician who has bodyguards to extoll the merits of an inclusive society.

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>>672312739
Sorry to hear that bro, luckily thanks to people like you who stand firm, more and more german citizens are awakening, if you people gather and organize you could expel all of those filthy scum out of your beautiful country.

>>672312739
Honestly , how big has the refugee crisis actually had on Germany? What's it like. Any difference? Genuinely interested (someone a world away from the shitstorm)

>>672312739
Basically everyone I know said from the beginning
> refugees, ok
> but not without limit
> not without an actual plan to handle shit
Would've been nice if Merkel had had had enough foresight to realise that.

>>672313190
> bielefeld
I have yet to be annoyed more by refugees, than I am by idiots spraying their pro and anti refugee slogans on every wall.

I'll try to explain as best as I can, me and my family might get kicked out of our house because we can't/ have a really hard time paying rent. So landlords gets payed by the government to kick those out and make it a refugee home
(I'm swedish)

Sorry my bad english

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>>672313190
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/02/08/mom-whose-son-was-attacked-by-refugee-says-regrets-her-welcoming-attitude.html

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/01/22/germans-battle-refugee-sex-assaults-with-signs-cartoons.html

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>>672313496
That's pretty much it...
(take up your weapons and rise against your government)

>>672313190
There aren't many changes right now. The refugee camps are overflowing, but besides that everything is going just fine. A big problem is that they're forced to wait in said camps for month's to know what will happen next. Besides from what you might think criminal rate isn't skyrocketing, because most people who came here are just fucking afraid of going to war. You see them breaking some social rules here and there (listening to muslim music on speaker on the bus for instance) but they usually get put in their place rather quickly. The first generation won't be much of a problem, the second or third generation like with the turks we have here will cause way more trouble then syrians.

>>672313389
That's because the "Media" is controlled by the government, and they're covering up ridiculous amounts of rape.

Carry on anon, but prepare your asshole.

>>672313861
*then the first generation syrians

>>672313861
they are unemployable and un-integratable.

this is only the beginning

>>672313861
A bunch of sandniggers enter into a foreign country (that was trying to protect them on the first place) and start raping every women they see, destroying and stealing everything they can is "fine"?
Dude, what the fuck is wrong with you?

>>672313696

yeah, because fox-news is a reliable source for things like that.

>>672313190

mostly people in eastern germany are butthurt even they dont have more then 2% proportion of foreign people.

Frankly the problems with the refugees are homemade, there was no plan for this so we have to find a way to deal with it, but we can manage this like before.

>>672313861
Just read this, you piece of shit.
>>672313696

>>672313861

jajaja die integrierter türken in dritter generation sind bestimmt diejenigen die probleme machen, bleib mal auf dem teppich

>>672313921
> the media controls what people I meet on the street and talk to
Alright then.

>>672314285
>unemployable and un-integratable
The syrian in my faculty would like to have a word with you.
But yea, the majorety of them will have little to no education and it'll be hard to integrate them, which doesn't imply we shouldn't try. I think there's a possibility to achieve that with large scale mandatory language courses and training in low end jobs - because we do need low end workers.

>>672314403

because of overreacting and exaggerated people like you its not possible to talk about ways to deal with that problem without getting framed as an ossi-asshole

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>>672314403
It's really nowhere as bad as /pol/ might make you believe.

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>>672314535
i won't bother reading a degenerate "news source"

>>672314784
>The syrian in my faculty would like to have a word with you.

Yeah? What will they tell me?

That the overwhelming majority of the refugees are almost entirely uneducated, and infact a large part are illiterate and incapable of basic mathematics?

The Syrians in your faculty, if educated, could have immigrated normally and gotten employment.

Your answer was facetious.

My points still stand.
The refugees are unemployable and un-integratable.

This is only the beginning

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>>672314841
>>672314940
>>672315046
*sigh* people like this really deserves to be overflowed with mudslimes.

>>672314940
The refugees have caused nothing but expenses, more crime, injustice in social welfare towards existing impoverished citizens etc.

There is nothing of value or that is good that has come out of this for the host nations.

Nothing.

>>672315388
Please read the rest of my post.

>>672315518
Ive read it.

My points still stand uncontested.
Your post infact supports and obviates them.

The refugees are unemployable and un-integratable.

This is only the beginning

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>>672315490
Well exept that a lot of people were able to survive which would have otherwise died.
>Syrian guy i know who came to germany just when shit over there started to get nasty told me how his university was mortared which was when they decided to get out ot there.
Many of you would do the same.

>>672315726
>Well exept that a lot of people were able to survive which would have otherwise died.

So what?
How is that my problem?

And are they even grateful for their expenses and upkeep being paid for by Europeans? NO.

This is a massive drain on already straining European economy and wellfare of its citizens, with ABSOLUTELY ZERO payoffs or benefits for the citizens that are paying for it.

The refugee shits dont even have the common human decency to be grateful or to try to provide something back in return.

>>672315726
Then let them die! We don't need that kind of shit in our country.

>>672315426
more plox

>>672315588
>The refugees are unemployable and un-integratable.
So you think they couldn't do basic construction work? There's a type of work called "helper-jobs" which require literally no education or skill - just a pair of working arms and legs and minimal communication. That's the type pf work no germans would do because the pay is really really bad. I think it's quiet possible to fill these places with "unemploable syrians".

>>672315796
the merkel image is all you need to know about why this is happening

>>672316005
there are very few positions for unskilled labour in a country like germany, and if there were before they had a decent wage but now that the labour market has been flooded with unskilled workers the wages are shit so uneducated germans can't make as much as they used to.

>>672316005
So, instead of giving that kind of job to hardworking people like chinese or mexicans (that would be more than happy to do so, and, in fact, they are pretty good at it) you choose dirty, criminal niggers to "maybe" do that kind of work.
Fucking brilliant.

>>672316005
>So you think they couldn't do basic construction work?

No, they cannot. They cannot speak the language enough to communicate enough. Second of all, they are so uneducated that many are infact illiterate.

They have no professional or vocational training.

>That's the type pf work no germans would do because the pay is really really bad

THE REFUGEES WILL NOT DO THAT WORK EITHER.

1) You cant demand them to work for less.
2) Why the fuck would they work, when they can instead leach welfare for FREE WITH NO EFFORT.

If you think these uneducated, shit-tier humans are going to start filling the crap jobs of any European country, you are sorely mistaken.

They will not.

>>672316054
> patriotic indoctrination, fuck yeah

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>>672315915
>>672315942
Ah and this is when we get to the core of it:
You didn't like sandnignogs in the first place and you don't really care about the actual case here.
>fuck stupid things like the Geneva conventions huehueheu.

>>672315915
Rape isn't a "return"?

>>672316347
>>fuck stupid things like the Geneva conventions huehueheu.

This has nothing to do with the Geneva Convention you stupid shit.

>You didn't like sandnignogs in the first place and you don't really care about the actual case here.

So? When have I denied it?
Its irrelevant.

The points still stand as stated here:
>>672314285
>>672315388
>>672315915
>>672316236

>>672312595
your missing the point so utterly im going to assume youre trolling

>>672315915
Crime isn't a return?

>>672316506
Point is:

Hungary safe behind its closed borders.
Sweden raped and overrun within its open borders.

Does that compute for you?

>>672316422
>>672316537

No. Of course not.

>>672315490

dude, its NOT the refugees to blame for that but the industrials and rich people, everytime they try to blame the poorer people for the problems in the country. Middleclass against underclass and those poor guys against foreigners.

http://www.focus.de/finanzen/steuern/steuerhinterziehung/sie-fliehen-nicht-vor-krieg-100-milliarden-ueber-die-kosten-fuer-diese-fluechtlinge-spricht-niemand_id_4968896.html

>>672315622
those blokes are british

>>672312595
Not Germany, not at all lol

>>672316639
>its NOT the refugees to blame for that

Who the fuck do you think is PAYING FOR THE REFUGEES?

ITS THE TAXPAYERS, you brainless cocksucker.

These refugees offer NOTHING and provide NOTHING of value to their host nations.

They only make more costs and problems, and THEN THEY AREN'T EVEN GRATEFUL.

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>>672312595
>sweden realizing facts
besides it's already too late for them
rip

>>672316138

lol, did you ever did on of those jobs? they are backbreaking and no sane person would do them for the low wage

>>672316138
>there are very few positions for unskilled labour in a country like germany
I've been working at my holidays at such jobs - one call and i got one. They sometimes even asked me if i knew other people who would like to take the same job.
>uneducated germans can't make as much as they used to
We have a thing called minimum wage at many fields.
>>672316230
It's not like we get them here as a working force - we're just trying to make the best of the situation of them running away from getting shot by one side or another.
>>672316236
>They cannot speak the language enough to communicate enough.
In the few month's i've spent at constructionsites i've seen more then one where noone spoke either english or german.
>>672316236
>THE REFUGEES WILL NOT DO THAT WORK EITHER.
You're assuming as much as i am
>Why the fuck would they work, when they can instead leach welfare for FREE WITH NO EFFORT.
Many people like to be needed, also leeching isn't that profitable either.
>If you think these uneducated, shit-tier humans are going to start filling the crap jobs of any European country, you are sorely mistaken.
>They will not.
All assumptions.

>>672316501
>No Contracting State shall expel or return ('refouler') a refugee in any manner whatsoever to the frontiers of territories where his life or freedom would be threatened on account of his race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_relating_to_the_Status_of_Refugees

>>672316771
yes as a matter of fact, and it's not backbreaking if your bones aren't deteriorated from sitting on a computer all day

>>672316790
The refugees will not do any of that work.
They will leach off the social welfare system, education system and other social benefits/infrastructure for generations to come.

The refugees are unemployable and un-integratable.

They are uneducated, often to the point of illiteracy. They have no assets or wealth with which they can invest into society or support themselves.

They are just a massive cost hole that will persist and soon enough become infected by the incompatibility of their culture and social values with those of the host culture that is graciously and mercifully covering their costs.

They provide NOTHING of value.

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Sweden is getting overun by political correctness.

Swedish people have all become so pussywhipped by the progressive whingbag left that everything is racist and xenophobic. Its fucking cancer at the moment.

Goodbye from Sweden.

>>672313496
>what is socialbidrag

>>672316978
and the media runs stories on the 1in100,000 guy who opens a kebab shop and might pay off his debt to society in 10 years or so

>>672316874
Oh?

You mean how NO MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRY is accepting EVEN ONE of these North-African or Middle-Eastern refugees?

>>672316978
And still - on what do you base your assumptions?

>>672316723

and who do you think is avoiding to pay that said taxes? That article ive posted says that EVERY fucking year 100 billion Euro are avoided by rich people in germany, but they love it to live here.

Refugees will just cost about 5-10 billion a year.

The real enemies are not invading germany.

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>>672317099
Google -> pictures -> first nice picture.

>>672317182
it's not a german problem it's a problem everywhere in the world

>>672316978

so like the 5million people already leeching social welfare?

>>672317117
>on what do you base your assumptions?

They have no education.
They cannot speak the language.
Those jobs are currently already empty even in a state with unemployment to fill them.
You cannot legally start paying less to "refugees" or persons of other national/ethnic/religious backgrounds due to laws on equal rights and treatment.
Not only are they not educated/proficient enough to hold those jobs, they also WILL NOT WANT THEM, because nobody does.

Why work, when you can get more for free as welfare.

Those are all facts.

I am not making assumptions.

The conclusion I presented follows logically and rationally from the above.

THEY ARE UNEMPLOYABLE.
And no bank will give them a loan to start a business.
And no insurance company will sell them coverage.

>>672317182
>Refugees will just cost about 5-10 billion a year.

These refugees offer NOTHING and provide NOTHING of value to their host nations.

They only make more costs and problems, and THEN THEY AREN'T EVEN GRATEFUL.

>>672317239

i agree, but this people are the REAL problem. Just imagine that 100 billion euro extra for 10 years and germany would HALF his debts!

>>672317287
>so like the 5million people already leeching social welfare?

In ADDITION to those 5 million people.

Except that these ones aren't even citizens of that country, are entirely uneducated, probably unvaccinated, come from an entirely different social/cultural/religious background and basically have nothing to offer the host country except more costs and more problems for generations to come.

>>672317237
>what is divide and conquer

the jesuit scum did a really good job there imo

I for one blah America for all this. Germany used to be a badass war loving country that was responsible for starting two world wars. One conquered by America they totally got battered wife syndrome - just like Japan.

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>>672317239
here in Texas we do not have that problem

>>672317494
Just imagine if not even one fucking refugee had been taken into Europe.

Europe would be a better, safer, politically stabke and more economically viable area than it is now.

NOTHING good has come of this for the EU.
Not one fucking thing.

The pieces of shit refugees aren't even grateful for it. They hate their hosts.

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>>672317600
dubs are spoken
remove kebab

>>672317237
They aren't taken in there.

They merely PASS THROUGH Turkey and Egypt ON THEIR WAY TO EUROPE.

Use your brain and analyze information critically.

>>672316874
it doesnt say you have to let them in

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>>672312595

>>672315726
>Well exept that a lot of people were able to survive which would have otherwise died.
How is that a good thing?

>>672312595
Just let Germanfags rape the immigrants

>>672317237
lol have you seen the conditions of the refugee camps? it can hardly be said that they are being taken in

>>672317557
No, the problem is that Eastern Europe was ass-raped for 60 years by the Russians/USSR.

If the Eastern European bloc had been liberated by the Allies instead of allowed to fall under the rape of the USSR, we would have a very different picture of Europe today, and a much stronger one.

>>672317380
>Why work, when you can get more for free as welfare.
Let me do a little calculating with minimum wage of 8,50€*160 hours per month= 1360€. At highest tax class with the worst conditions you'll end up with about 900€ per month which is noteably more then the 400€ for lazing arround at home.

>>672317823
Would you blame turkey for not expecting it's neighboring country to suddenly implode and to pour out literal millions of refugees?

>>672313921
bist du aus hamburg?

>>672313389
>>672317952
meinte dich

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>>672317734
i don't even know what to say anymore

>>672314675
>implying you can see all the bad stuff they do
pahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahaha
your one stupid nigga

>>672317837
What makes you think the refugees will work, when not even the domestic population will.

Furthermore many refugees receive more than that 400e you claim. Plus they get free rent and other benefits. They are treated preferentially by social workers.

>>672317773
We won't touch em! Just gas 'em!

>>672318166
And all the women they can rape.

>>672314940
shit is about fucking Islam and that problem is bad.
In Berlin there was a protest against a fucking hamas propaganda movie in the protestors have been threatened and so on.

Jews are told not to walk through certain areas since it is dangerous for them and the problem only grows bigger since the fucktard party die linke supports the hamas welcoming.

If you don't like Israel it is one thing but those fucktards rather let children die for the press to be on their side.

Shit woman are more threatened not the don't have our own crazy rapists but they convert.

The worst mudslims are niggers.
Some are okay but Quran tells them they are a lesser race so they can hate infidels and welcome to do that in such a fanatic way.

They don't feel bad if they rape and so on.

Islamic terror is a topic at least since 2005. If you work in a hospital in a problematique are you see what it means.
They have their seperated culture and they keep that bs.
If it would be like with the vietnamnese I would not give a single fuck but it is not.
They want to convert people and they give stupid fucktards like Pierre Vogel a chance to be a personality who preaches in front of hundreds?
A fucking wanker who recruits for ISIS?

Honormurders are basicly on a monthly basis, fucktards who beat up people etc.

All you do is deny that and heeeeey how did the Nazis get so big?
BECAUSE THEY WORK WITH THOSE PEOPLE YOU INSULT AND DON'T TAKE SERIOUSLY

Nazis and radical mudslims went on the street in Düsseldorf and shouted ''gass all the jews''.
They work fine alongside each other.

The anti-moslem movement has been called Nazis but they are nothing like a Nazi.
A Nazi would beat the crap out of you if you piss him off he would maybe kill you.

But you faggots try to welcome everything from the middleeast and don't ask yourself why we don't give tibeteans the title of refugee?
Give as 3 mil of them and thinks work fine.

The sandniggers fucked their own countries up

>>672318052
Hes right.

Although in the case of this disaster, refugees have simply overrun the borders without going through proper channels.

Just imagine how bad the situation is in Greece.

loooool, my city has several refugee camps and they don't do anything bad. they just chill in their camps, I literally never see them.

>>672318166
>What makes you think the refugees will work, when not even the domestic population will.
People like to be needed, and maybe some of them will see this as a chance for an actual education and a better life.
>Furthermore many refugees receive more than that 400e you claim.
Like money for children (about 250€ per month), and if you want to be a cheap fuck you can even keep a little of this money.
>Plus they get free rent and other benefits.
True, forgot about that. If we're talking about a single person that'll cost about 300 bucks per month.
Still more then the welfare.
>They are treated preferentially by social workers.
I've read some article about the struggle to prevent exactly this, don't know if that's the case, but the government tries to deal with it.

>>672318355
And who is paying for them?

You think they can stay in camps for the next 3 decades or something?

This is going to be a problem for Europe for the entire next generation.

>>672318477
Your assumption is flawed.

If not even the local population will take those jobs (who are much more employable), there is no reason to assume these uneducated, different culture/religion/nationality refugees will.

They where already uneducated and probably unemployed even in their home country.

The social benefit system in Europe is like paradise for them. They wont work, they will just take the free money.


They also cant get loans, and lack the language and education to get training in a profession.

They are unemployable, even if they wanted the jobs (which they dont).

They are also unintegratable, because they come from a society of co pletely different values.

Do you think westerners that work in the Middle East adopt their values? Hell no.

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>>672318318
Try to make smaller and less buttblasted posts because i won't bother to read all that shit.

>>672312595
Refugees are Germanys fault, if you cucks hadn't tried to take over Europe, Israel wouldn't exist, none of the current states in the Middle East wouldn't have had their borders redrawn in a way that places historically warring clans against eachother, and the term refugee wouldn't even be a legal term most countries including your cock sucking failure of a country legally signed to. Fuck you German scum, you are getting what you deserve.

>>672315426
poor lad to the right side of us, don't want to risk his relationship

>>672318781
This is nonsense.

Consider if the Axis had won WWII.

Do you really think Germany, Italy and occupied Greece would accept these shits on their borders?

Their rubber dingies across the Mediterranean would be sunk on sight by tye Kriegsmarine.

>>672318781
>Mudslim detected
you screwed up your own countries by making religion more important than education.
united-emirates are screwing you over not Israel.
Inform yourself properly without stupid propaganda.

>>672318762
congratulations you are afraid to be proven wrong?
Or just too lazy
nvm

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>>672318485
>And who is paying for them?
The government.

>>672319058
German scum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il59S3HT6jI

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>>672318742
all of your post can be boiled down to this
"refugees are unemploable because they're scum"
this is your opinion and i won't try to change it

>>672319148
And who pays for the government?

The citizens.

And what have the citizens gotten of benefit from the refugees?

Nothing.

Only more problems and costs for generations to come.

The refugees arent even grateful.

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>>672316760
>barbarians who urinate while standing up

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>>672319110
>Or just too lazy
Come the fuck on, it's like expecting others to watch 1h conspiracy videos and calling others sheeple when they refuse to. You may call it lazy that i don't want to accept your inability to make smaller, more concentrated posts.

>>672318485
I don't really care, I'm not the next generation

>>672319206
Its not an opinion.

Its an objective fact.

The majority of them do not even have highschool education. A substantia part is infact illiterate.

They have no applicable vocational skills, they cannot speak the host nations language.

They have no personal wealth or assets.

They cannot get loans to start a business.

When the do estic population of unemployed will not take available jobs, it is false to assume that magicaly a refugee will.

They will not. They will simply exist on the same additional social welfare cost as the existing body of unemplyables.

>>672319350
Well make your own experiences than.
Just saying that Islamists are the same fucking cunts as Nazis are and they are a little bit more active.

I put facts there you can actually find from a legit source.

See for yourself how Tibet is doing and that Germany does not give them the status of refugees.

No theory just a plain fact.

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>>672319466
ok, i get it - you don't like them
come back if you've got something else then your opinion

>>672319399
It will be a problem in Europe for the rest of your remaining life.

This is just the beginning.
The costs and problems will rise dramatically in the next years once these refugees have to be moved out of camps into social welfare equal to other citizens of the host country.

They legally have to be treated the same way as any ACTUAL CITIZEN, due to human rights and equality laws.

>>672319554
Its no about me liking them or not.
I cant like or dislike a group of millions of invididuals.

Its just based on facts that they are unemployable and unintegrateable.

Whether I like them or not changes nothing of that.

>>672312595
> in this thread European cucks ask the USA to save them again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaeCL0ftA30

>>672319743
> based on facts that they are unemployable and unintegrateable
>the facts
What facts? The fact that you feel like they are unemployable? I fail to see a single fact in your posts.

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>>672319272
>And who pays for the government?

Both refugees and citizens get welfare. Welfare is taxed. Tax income is used to pay more welfare. Etc etc...

>>672319860
Save us some time and show us why they ARE employable?

They did, but it's too late.

>>672320012
because Eurocucks are too busy sucking eachother off like the faggots they are

>>672319860
Someone with no education, that is possibly illiterate, that cannot speak the language and has no vocational work experience or skills

is

unemployable.

They also will not be able to start their own businesses, because:
A) They have no wealth/assets of their own
B) No bank will tive them a loan.

They will also be unable to get education for a job, because they cannot speak the languages required to get that. Also their level of education is so low, they will have to go through basic school first to even attempt higher education.

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>>672320012
I never said i knew they were - i expressed my hopes that humans were actually nice to each other.
You were the one raving about knowing shit for a fact.

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This is just setting up the chessboard for the weak (liberals) versus the strong. Muslims are just the catalyst to this reaction.

In time, the weaklings will end up isolating themselves to the point that national identity is irrelevant and they will be seen as enemy agents. This is when the civil wars will start erupting.

It will suck to be gun less eurofags when this happens but make no mistake. In America our founding fathers had the foresight to prepare the citizens for threats like liberals to civilization, prosperity and liberty. Bring your hunger to restore the world proper, eurofag brethren. We will remind you of what you were.

Fuck liberals and fuck their precious niggers and muslims and faggots and uppity cunts.

>>672319867
The money for welfare, is from taxes of the citizens.

That welfare itself is taxed, doesnt change that. All the money of the government is from its citizens.

The refugees provide nothing into that.
Only more expenses for nothing out of it.

Taharrush jamai

Look it up.

>>672320155
I'm not the guy you were talking with before, just a bystander.

>>672320155
Being nice has nothing to do with it.

Sorry to burst your Tumlbr reality.

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>>672312595
Swefag here and the answer is no, not really.

The official line is that the immigration crisis has been resolved and that we certainly never had a problem with muslims.

The public opinion is different, of course, but the people in power intend to invite more luckseekers.

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>>672320243
opinion: discarded

>Sweden reporting in to comment

The amount of ppl voting for the far right and anti-muslim party "The Sweden democrats" have grown beyond 20% causing the traditional parties to adapt somewhat. The general opinion among the ppl are to restrict the immigration. The media are still doing all the love muslim, immigration is good bullshit but the ppl are fed up.

1 of 2 things will happen. Either the traditional parties adapt harder rules for immigrants and immigration or the Sweden will continue to grow more powerful.

>>672320263
I have heard first hand that there aren't any Swedish fish candies in Sweden I have to call shenanigans on this post

>>672320408
You are the one with the opinion.

See, for facts:
>>672320076

>>672320196
Are you trying to say that a 100% welfare based economy would not work?

Everyone is on welfare, welfare is taxed, taxes go to government, government pays out welfare and then the cycle repeats. It practicly pays for itself.

>>672320556
I can confirm that swedish fish exist in Sweden

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>>672319860
See
>>672319466

People who are uneducated and have no personal wealth or connections and do not speak the language are unemployable in a modern society.

There are very few jobs that dont require an education. The competition for the few that exist is fierce.

Time for the citizens of the European countries to rise up and destroy all their leaders spitting upon them and their country. Then mobilize and using any weaponry needed to drive the barbarian hordes out of Europe.

Then combine all European countries efforts to ensure no more invaders enter. Let it be known that entering Europe CAN be an immediate death sentence if you are not allowed to enter.

>>672317016
underrated post

>>672313921
What about your freedums for the media to draw Muhammad that we Muslims need to learn about?

Must be nice being able to draw hate speech caricatures but have actual crimes censored huh? What a beautiful "democracy"!
>kek

>PS the "mass rapes" are a hoax pushed by right wingers making false claims

>>672320767
People who do not work, do not provide tax revenue or growth.

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>>672320556
Someone lied to you then.

Why would they do that? What do they hope to gain by feeding you false information? What else are they lying about?

I think you need to take care of this.

>>672320556
There is, but you buy them in bulk and not bags.

>>672320188
>Fuck liberals and fuck their precious niggers and muslims and faggots and uppity cunts.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

>>672317630

so you think econmy is suffering on that? are you brain damaged or something?

>>672312595
The Swedish government is shit. Only a handful of political parties dared to stand up against the immigration before it became a problem, now people are realizing they've been right the whole time. I fucking hate swedes

>>672320897
Look dumbass. It's simple and I will explain it to you.

Let's say that I am the government. I pay you 10000 Swedish Dollars a month for being a nigger. You are deducted 3000 in taxes and get 7000 to use on khat, bombs and goat meat. Then I use the 3000 to pay you 10000 next month... wait... fuck!

>>672320188
the refugee crisis has actually triggered a huge boost in firearms sales in several european countries.

gun shops in austria cant keep up with demand for home defense shotguns.

>>672312595
I admot this is fucking stupid. Not a muslim but still a minority, i can never come work in europe now necause of all their fuck ups regular people with jobs who want to work in a real country can never come because
1.your goverment will assume im a muslim and bar me
2.your people can no longer separate between muslims and any other minority of a similar colour and harass the shit out of me

Congrats the style of living has been detrimentaly reduced for anyone coming to your country and most of all for your national borns.

Its a sad world

>>672320155
People are nice when they feel safe and when they lose nothing by being nice.

People fight without mercy when they feel threathened.

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>>672320808
>The competition for the few that exist is fierce.
It wasn't two years ago when i jobbed a little in my holidays.

>>672321280
>so you think econmy is suffering on that?
Yes, the economy is and will suffer even more greatly from this in years to come.

>are you brain damaged or something?
Its a simple fact.
If you refute it, its you who are brain damaged.

>>672321200
I can't wait for Islam to take over your degenerate societies.

>>672321322
Great! You understand that you dont belong here. Well done!

So go where you belong then. I'm sure your home country is a shithole but its your duty to make it better, no one elses.

>>672321322
Sorry.

Hope you can understand the current necessity for this though.

Im sure if you have a decent education, lack a criminal record etc you will be able to find gainful employment.

>>672321372
If you think refugees will take those jobs instead of simply leaching welfare, you have a nasty reality shock incoming.

>>672318485
>imblying
There will soon be massive cleansing in the countryside and fullblown wars in the cities. It will be France vs the commune of Paris all over again. Only this time with niggers in lieu of comunards

>>672312595
>Hungary
>part of EU
>refuses to adhere to the EU laws
>but takes cheap money from the european central bank

Hungary is a disgrace to the european union. It doesn't even bring anything to the table. Should get kicked out immediatley.

>>672321474
Islamic extremists will fail. Hard.

>>672321647
>Only this time with niggers in lieu of comunards
Yes, I agree this is a very likely outcome in the not so distant future.

>>672321304
He's not entirely wrong you dumb faggot.
All the things they purchase with the money are taxed or generally locally produced... even the goat meat.

The only reason they have to have the handouts in the first place is because of labour laws on refugees. They cannot work for the 1st 3 months and have affirmative action laws against them for 18 months after.

>>672315915
>So what?
>How is that my problem?
Civilized society thinks it's a problem
Nobody gives a fuck about your opinion

>>672315622

This is from the I.T. Crowd, a very funny British comedy.

>>672312595
Amerifat here, so what happens when shit calms down in Syria and wherever else theyre from? Is Germany and Sweeden going to send them back? They just got a taste of the good life, theyre not going to want to go back to those shit hole countries and it won't be easy.

>>672312595

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIfMAP4Q1yk

>>672321674
>>refuses to adhere to the EU laws

there are no laws requiring Hungary to open its borders.

there are only "recommendations" and the strong influence and pressure from leading EU states to "toe the party line" in consensus.

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>>672321474
I've got a Second Amendment that says Islam is pig shit and taking over nothing.

send all the muslim fkers to Saudi for beheading

>>672320767
You are literally retarded.

>>672321526
>"Go back to where you belong"
>Invades and bombs the shit out of places they don't belong

>>672312595

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI5WoXpmPiM

oh no world is so complicated what do? ah funny pics in the interweb help me understand. oh ja, fuck all liberal ideas how dumb haha now I have opinion and that good, ja? so stop hurting my opinion with all this complicated info and stuff. just hate liberal and imigrants, so easy nice! germany awake sounds so new and apealing to me but no nazi no no why say that? you ignorant!

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>>672321607
then i'll wait for my nasty shock - worst case scenario - you'll be right
best case scenario - i'm right
But if we don't give them a chance there won't be a chance for a best case scenario.

my brother is a doctor and he worked in refugee camp on slovenian-austrian border. supposedly the syrians are relatively nice, a lot of families and he said you can tell them apart cause they mostly behave nice and with gratefulness. the problems are afganis and pakistanis; it's mostly men in their 20s, uneducated, illiterate, originating from backward tribal cultures. they will never adopt to european way of life, they will never get a even shitty job because they need few years of education just to learn basics like reading, writing and simple calculus. and with current european unemployment situation, the last thing anybody need is a horde of primitives.

tldr: help syrian families, kick afgans, pakistanis and magreb arabs out of europe

>>672321805
>Civilized society thinks it's a problem

People dying while crossing the Mediterranean is not my problem. The war in Syria is not my problem.

The economic and social strains caused by unchecked and unregulated influx of refugees into my country, is my problem.

My position on this is eminently civilized.

>>672321887
I've got a fully automatic rifle that your precious 2nd amendment failed to give you.

>>672313299
>had had had

>>672312595

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_znVnOizU8

>>672312595

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIaGWURONRU

UK fag here, I hope the referendum sees us pull out of the EU.

It's a shame we can't put some sails on our island and float north away from the immigrants

>>672321965
How do Syrians compare with turks?

>>672314649
Schau dich mal in NRW um, ein großer Teil der Türken sind in der dritten oder vierten Generation immer noch nicht vernünftig integriert.

Masseneinwanderung egal welcher Nationalität ist ein Fehler, da für diese Leute somit gar kein Drang zur Integration besteht. Als Türke in Kreuzberg kannst du dein Leben auch fast ganz ohne Deutschkenntnisse leben, warum sich also bemühen?

Darüber hinaus fällt bei muslimischen Einwanderern die Integration aufgrund der zahlreichen kulturellen Differenzen und unterschiedlichen Moralvorstellungen im Vergleich zu z.B. Christen generell schwerer. Die aktuelle Einwanderungswelle hat ihren Ursprung in den rückständigsten Regionen der Welt (Afrika und mittlerer Osten). Die fehlende Bildung dieser Menschen (welche z.T. nichtmal lesen oder schreiben können) in Kombination mit der Masse, in der sie zu uns rübergeschwemmt kommen, schließt jegliche Integration von vornherein aus.

Schutz sollte man lediglich den verfolgten Minderheiten wie Yeziden, Assyrern, Drusen etc. bieten. Sunni Moslems besitzen die geringste Toleranz gegenüber anderen Glaubensgruppen, außerdem haben wir von denen eh schon genug.

>>672321959
>But if we don't give them a chance there won't be a chance for a best case scenario.

The best case scenario is outweighed by the worst one.

Even at best, in terms of current informed projections, only a tiny fraction of the refugees will be able to get (or want) gainful employment or education.

People underestimate just how poor and uneducated these people are.

The overwhelming majority of them does not even have basic elementary school education. Almost 1/4 of them are entirely illiterate. Only a few % can speak english, let alone the language of their host country. Less than 10% have any kind of vocational training or job skills.

Less than 1% has a higher education background.

Almost none of them have any personal wealth/assets (or atleast they will not declare them).

This shit is going to get increasingly worse in the next few years as states have to start moving these people out of refugee status into equal welfare with the rest of the nations citizenry.

This is so the tip of the iceberg. And to make matters worse, the refugee flood is INCREASING in size. It has not diminished.

>>672321999
>People dying while crossing the Mediterranean is not my problem. The war in Syria is not my problem.

I'm Muslim living in a Muslim country with no ISIS. Somehow when I say the Paris attacks are not my problem it doesn't work... I am also blasted for apparently not taking in refugees even though they come in by the millions... do I need to apply for a westerner privilege card?

>>672322024
It only takes one precision shot.

Welcome to guerilla warfare, kiddo.

>>672322197
trust me, most of EU would like to see you leave that way too. but won't happen because UK economy would crumble, and you know that.

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>>672321999
Yes! And this is human nature.

We'll allow refugees, sure, as long as they keep out of sight and dont cost too much money.

But the second they become a problem in MY LIFE, i become a rightwing extremist.

>>672317699
nope. there are even more than 1.8m syrians living in turkey now. my hometown is invaded by arabs.

>>672312595

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N46mIHEGHN0

>>672321526
>>Canadian born
>>hispanic background
>>degree in business
>>degree in graphic design
>>work as a suit maker/tailor
>>672321547
Thank you i wanted to experience europe because it was an enlightened place where art and fashion are seen as valuable and people are more educated and tolerant of creatives especially sweeden with design.
>>672321912
I am literally an artist, the worst i could do is smoke all your cigarettes

Again not all ethnicities are savages believe me no matter how racist and superior you think white people may be no one is more critical of minorities and immigrants than landed immigrants because we know one bad egg will fuck everything up for us no matter how educated or assimilated we are.

My case in point with 2 of the 3 posts here.

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>>672321800
Id rather we just close the border and pretend that Syria thing is not happening whilst the unfortunates desperatly claw at the gates.

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>>672315796
great gif
Hu Jin Tao did something similar by picking up a sheet of paper with China on it, no other leader did.

>>672322405
>Somehow when I say the Paris attacks are not my problem it doesn't work

I would agree it is not your problem.
You didnt cause it, nor are you perpetuating it, nor is it directly effecting you locally.

>I am also blasted for apparently not taking in refugees even though they come in by the millions
What country is this?

Are you in Turkey?

Note that the refugees are NOT STAYING in any of the muslim nations. They are just transiting through to eventually end up in the EU.

>>672322405
Well, to be fair. You worship mohammed, do you not? Allahu akbar and all that? You believe or at least you were taught that it is wrong to make cartoons of muhammed?

Is it unfair then that some people are worried you might choose to act on those beliefs? You're a bomb waiting to explode, m8.

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>>672322405
Kill yourself, terrorist shitskin.

>>672321901
>You are literally retarded.
I prefer the term "mentally challenged".

>>672322263
no idea dude. never had anythng to do with turks.

>>672319058
Then you should have won the war Hans. Oh wait, you got rekt.

>>672322475
They are merely passing through.

That 1.8mil figure is the sum total of the constant amount of refugees leaving Turkey, but more constantly pouring in to get through it to the EU.

I just need to tell someone that I'm a 17 year old Christian immigrant on England, from a Balkan country and that right now I wish I'd even be allowed to start cleaning shit from the sewers and feel useful instead of being given 57£ weekly. I know and I'm sure that if I'm given a shot at any sort of education or apprenticeship I'd ace it because I'm that desperate. I try to avoid native English people because I feel like they know I'm am immigrant and I can see them when they distance themselves from me and are doubtful or scared. You have no idea how I feel at the moment. Bring the hate, /b/rothers.

>>672322582
Finland here.

If you are civilized, respect our values and are prepared to work for your living, you are very welcome here.

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>>672316054
It has literally nothing to do with non-patriotism for for a serious politician not wanting to look like a retard waving a little flag in front of cameras.

>>672317600
Yeah, and thats why mexifaggots take down the Confederate flag...

>>672322419

like shite, the EU is propped up by the UK and Germany.

If both left, Europe would be completely fked.

>>672322752
no hate here bro, try to keep yourself open minded and trustfull and good luck in the UKs!

>>672322752
This is how i know i will feel if i where to go to europe now added benefit is im not white so ill immediately be ostricized by anyone with a hint of doubt about a minority

>>672312739
>>bertstared
Kek

>>672322752
Rest assured, you aren't the problem.

This situation reflects on you, but you are not the cause of it, nor part of causing it.

>>672322921
>propped up by the UK
the UK really isn't as relevant, powerful or influential as you seem to like to think.

>>672323091
Germany is though.

>>672321312
There are european countries you can buy firearms in?

I thought europe was one big happy gun-free zone, and that it explained why they have a tiny fraction of the west's crime rate!

Could reddit and msnbc be wrong?

>>672316054
That Germany is not America?

>>672322024
>not knowing the second amendment doesn't affect automatic firearm licensing

Your stupidity will be your undoing.

>>672322660
Just saying.

If the Axis had won the war, or if the Allies had liberated Eastern Europe instead of resigning to the tyranny of the USSR, this would not be happening today.

>>672322582
Dont exaggerate, nobody can just go and leave in Canada. My sister is doing phd in Toronto and she needs to renew her temporary status every year. As soon as she is not a student anymore and if she doesnt have a job she will need to leave Canada. It's normal. Every sovereign country needs to control who can and cannot reside on its territory.

>>672312595

Can someone tell present day Germany that WW2 was not their fault and they don't need to keep apologising for it. There is only ONE reason refugees are passing through dozens of safe, peaceful countries, including muslim countries, to get to progressive cesspits like Germany and the UK.

>>672323191
yes, definitely.

>>672322405
Well, ok, believe in what you want. But stay away from Wester civilisation-you are not welcome here.

>>672323091
b..b..but they have the banks and the, ehm...the fish and the chips? And the banks!

>>672323091

well you won't fkin miss us, when we've gone,

>>672323211
you can buy firearms, but there are far more restrictions.

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>>672322582
This isnt a good time to "experience europe". European hospitality has been under a LOT of strain lately.

We were nice to muslims. We welcome refugees.

And how do they repay us? Terrorism, crime and unending demands for more free stuff. They are never satisfied, MORE MORE MORE! Europe is being raped, right now. This is a bad time.

Come back in 30 years. If there is anything left by then.

>>672322752
why did you emigrate to england? there is no war in balkans.

>>672322815
No man lives for free. And ive been instilled with a good work ethic. thanks for the kind reassurance that I'd be welcome based on my skills education and civility regardless of my colour

>>672323254
>Every sovereign country needs to control who can and cannot reside on its territory.

Unfortunately this is not what happened in the EU during this refugee flood.

Nobody truly knows how many there are, who they are, or where they are.

>>672322654
Ah. I just ask because i have dealt with turks but never with syrians.

Turks are violent, harsh, dishonest and generally unpleasant. Also devout muslims.

>>672323091
Um actually they're one of the largest business partners/members for the EU, even without using the Euro, not as influential as Germany granted but, arguably worth more than most other EU countries.

>>672323328
no, we wont.

but you are kidding yourself if you think you will somehow be better off on your own.

>>672323239
just saying, if aliens had invaded in the late 50's and gave us world peace by death rays you wouldn't be telling shit here today.

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>>672323211
>reporting nigger problems doesn't sell

Surely you jest, they weren't wrong you just read things wrong.

>>672323091
UK is the fifth largest economy in the world. Fuck yeah, they are relevant.

>>672312595

>A country is defined by it's borders.

OMG DATS RACIST! YOU'RE A RACIST!

>>672323436
i agree. was just responding to canadian /b/ro.

europe failed for sure. there should have been strict control on the greece borders from start. something australian style.

>>672323530
I blame the aliens for this whole mess.

>>672323504
In terms of the EU as a total unit, the wealth of its individual states is not really a relevant point of comparison.

If the UK leaves the EU, its the UK that will lose the benefit of access to the much larger whole. Not the other way around.

Its up to you, but dont think that you will be better off economically or politically for it.

>>672323576
You mean without the trade restrictions they had before they were part of the EU. UK arrogance is really hilarious, they think they're better off alone. Can't wait till they actually do it and suddenly the citizens are worse off. Whups!

>>672323539
>once you subtract the crime of a large percentage of the country's population, you have the sae crime rate as another country
Wow, what an astounding conclusion. If you subtract a large portion of a number, it becomes smaller.

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>>672323381
Sounds like Europe has felt the Bern.

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>>672322449

Being a reasonable cotizen who doesnt want to see other citizens beaten and raped by the people you are trying to help can sour the milk quite alot. And the fact that the majority of these cases wind up with no repurcussions on the side of the refugees cpuld make someone sensible downright violent.

Don't be so nieve as to think that if your brother or sister had been beaten and rsped that you would still be in favor of the current refugee policy either.

>>672323498
We have a saying "angry as a turk". There is something to that...

>>672323424
Tbh just be civilized.

That alone would be far more than this current flood of refugees has to offer.

>>672323254
Im sorry I dont understand, where did you feel that I exagerated?

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>>672323091
Let's pour some numbers on this;
In each list in order:
German Schnitzels - 3,900,000 millon $
Bribongs - 3,000,000 million $
French Fries - 2,800,000 million $
Russia - 1,900,000 million $
i had no idea russia was THIS poor if you take into account that ~ 150 million people live there
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29

>>672313696
>foxnews

>>672323832
which country if i may ask?

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>>672323824
Agreed. If there were real consequences for refugees commiting crimes that might help a little.

>>672323381
I loved the story that went over the news wire about how some refugees are going back to their home countries because the camps are too crowded and they can't consistently get hot water and good food, and because they want to go back to their families who stayed behind.

I guess home wasn't such a war-torn cesspool after all.

Excellent work Hungary :) keep it up :D

>>672320767
No one can be this stupid

>>672323498
>some turks

Fixed that for you. My best buddy is turkish, one of the nicest people I've ever met in my life. So fuck off with your racism you ignorant shit.

>>672323498
>>672323832

Yes, the German Turks are.

Oddly enough, many Turks living in Turkey proper actually are respectful, decent people with a good degree of civility (even among the poor).

Why can't immigrants just be normal white people?