People that are religious claim to support God but are unable to prove God exists.

>>670635008
sage

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>>670635008
Oh boy, this thread.

OP claims to support centipedes, yet they are unable to provide evidence that they aren't in my vagina.

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Roll

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>>670635008
this shit is still getting posted?

>>670635008
on a completely unrelated note, why is this pic used for every atheism vs religion debate? is it from a movie or something i'm not aware of?

>>670636087
It is the Childlike empress from The Neverending Story.

>>670635806
Rollin

>>670636474
so it's unrelated?

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>ATHEISTS CLAIM TO SUPPORT SCIENCE.

>>670636617
I've never figured out the connection. Perhaps the faggot OP can weigh in.

It's long proven Gods are men's creations.

>>670635008
Before using big words like evidence. You might want to learn what it implies.

Tfw op just posts this everyday hoping it becomes a meme that he can later show his patchy goatee friends who only love classic rock and family guy. Rolling

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>>670635008

>>670635008
Actually, I am an atheist, who supports science, and who claims to have evidence that there is no god.

>>670638257
don't be that guy.

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Christian fags tried to censor Higgs boson

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>>670638813
No doubt.
>>670638257
Just say atheist, don't get diarrhea of the kb and prove yourself a fool.

>>670639041
I wonder why?

>>670638813
What? Look at any hypothesis of intervening gods vs the hypothesis of no intervening gods. The whole history of mankind provides overwhelming support for the proposition that violations of standard material physics do not happen, therefore there is no intervening god.

And for deist gods, I don't give a fuck. There is no difference between a god that is entirely undetectable, and no god at all.

Its not because you never saw a tree talk , it can't talk.

>>670636087
Underage b&

As an atheist guy i couldn't give less fucks about what people believes, they can do whatever makes them happy

How can you realistically provide scientific proof that something doesn't exist, if the thing involved is just an imaginary being?

Protip, you can't.

God = Imaginary, no substance, take up no space, has no mass, therefore does not exist.

If I am wrong, show me what mass it has and what it is made of.

You can't as it does not exist.

Everything that exists has mass, get over it.

>>670639234
that's beyond the point. the point is: you cannot have proofs of the non-existance of anything, because if something doesn't exist, you cannot prove it doesn't exist. worse case scenario you end up proving you have nothing to support your claim and you make a fool out of yourself.
>God = Imaginary, no substance, take up no space, has no mass, therefore does not exist.
photons

see this is why the claim atheist = smart is wrong, you guys provided the right proof of it

>>670639967
>because if something doesn't exist, you cannot prove it doesn't exist.

That makes no sense.

I have overwhelming evidence right now that there is no such thing as an elephant in my bedroom. This is a perfectly normal and reasonable thing to claim.

>>670636807
at this point it's just a forced meme and the real reason is lost on why it is this particular pic.

personally i dislike the picture and has no basis for the topic of athiesm. have fun in your bait thread

>>670635008
The burden of proof lies upon the religions.

>>670635008
I can't fucking believe that there are still fucking faggots taking this shit bait.

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>>670635008
>Atheists claim to support science, yet they are unable to provide evidence that God doesn't exist.

I really, really, really like this argument.

>>670635008
The burden of proof is on religious folk

>>670640079
You may be able to prove that other people cant see or touch it.

>>670639967
A being cannot be made of photons, if you were smarter, you'd know this.

>>670640079
>have overwhelming evidence right now that there is no such thing as an elephant in my bedroom
you have evidence that something as big as your room doesn't exist in a room. cleaver.

we haven't, and won't, fully explore space. ever. what if god is in the most remote area of space? maybe it exists and you just cannot prove it, making you as scientifically accurate as those guys in the middle age that said that the earth was flat because they couldn't prove it was round

>>670640711
said who? also
>no substance, take up no space, has no mass
>therefore does not exist
photons have no substance, take no space, has no mass. does exist. your point again is?

>>670640578
>cant see or touch it.
I don't care about the difference between something that doesn't exist and something that is completely undetectable. The difference is entirely semantic and of no importance.

>>670640958
>prove
Stop using that word. I said overwhelming evidence and convincing demonstration. Science doesn't work in terms of "proof". Science works only in terms of probabilities and confidence levels.

>>670641439
>Science doesn't work in terms of "proof". Science works only in terms of probabilities and confidence levels

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

shit nigga you are serious, that was no joke, was it?

>>670641580
Welcome to epistemology 101.

>>670641653
>epistemology
>science

pick one

>>670635008
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panbabylonism

>>670641887
You don't appear to be worth my time.

If there is a GOD then he hates all thouse faggots wich Belive... What the humans do "in the Name of GOD" is for sure not what he wantet them to do ^^ so if he perhaps come down on earth, the first people he will Rage on are all those religios faggots which abused his name 1000 of years :D :D

>>670635008
Terrible bait. Sage goes in every field.

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God here. Continue.

>>670637668
This

>>670642918
Yum, bait - I say Merry christmas, so I agree that he was born on the 24th

>>670642450
The next super natural being to make an appearance is the Anti-Christ, because he is not a human most will mistake what he actually is.

They will believe lies like alien here to save us. Or second coming and rapture.

But to be sure humans are primed for this deception they have not believed their eyes for 2000 years. Scoffing at the super natural or thinking it to be ghosts, poltergeists, djinn, shadow people, or aliens.

YOU FUCKING DIPSHIT. THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU. YOUR THE AUTISTIC BELIEVER. YOU SAY HE EXISTS, SO FUCKING PROVE IT. YOU FUCKING CUNT. DONT PAWN THAT SHIT OFF CAUSE YOU CANNOT RETICULATE COHERENT ARGUMENTS

>>670635008
The proof is the bible.
You can't say we have free will if the alternative to not choosing the belief he wants us to is eternal torture.
It's just silly and an obvious marketing device.
Not to say I'm an atheist. But the Islamic, Jew and Christian God is just such a ridiculous concept it's insulting to real spirituality, God and the search for it.

>>670643109
k. I'm not the person to whom you're responding, but please prove anything exists.

>>670643109
Get the entire planet together and declare: "peace peace peace" and see what happens.

Or vote for Clinton or Trump and see what happens.

>>670639745
what about light? checkmate atheists!

Why are you back again?

>>670635764
dafuq?

The circular reasoning is, to prove anything exists you must pre-suppose you exist.

>>670635327
The existence of God is easily proven. Ever hear of the alagory of the cave?

>>670643559
Oh boy here we go

>>670635764
Don't panic. Studies show that 1 out of 3 women have centipedes or centipede-like-creatures in their vaginas.
If you are a man and discover that you not only have a vagina, but that it is filled with centipedes, you may wish to panic a little.
Centipedes are insectivores. In order to entice the centipedes to leave your vagina, you may wish to try the following fun home Blue Peter-esque project:
You will need a tampon, a cockroach, some Scotch tape, and a centipede-filled vagina. If you are under 18, be sure to ask your parents' permission before attempting to remove centipedes from your vagina.
Tape the cockroach to the tampon and insert it into your centipede-filled vagina.
Slowly (and if possible, erotically) pull the string until the be-cockroached tampon slides out of your centipede-filled vagina.
If you are lucky, one or more centipedes will have gone for the bait and evacuated your now slightly less centipede-filled vagina. Repeat until you are satisfied with the centipede density in your vagina.
Helpful hint: since all centipedes are azn, if they are not taking the bait it may be helpful to cater to their particular tastes. You may want to soak the tampon in soy sauce, or use Pocky instead of a tampon. Avoid at all costs the temptation to substitute General Tso's chicken for the cockroach. Your vagina will thank you.
Should you need to enlist the help of others, be sure to state in a loud, clear voice that there are centipedes inside you. This will cause them to ask where, and give you the opportunity to mutter "in mah vagina" semi-coherently like Hillary Swank in Boys Don't Cry. That's always funny.

>>670643238
HOLY FUCKING SHIT YOU DIDNT EVEN READ WHAT I SAID YOU CUMSTAIN PIECE OF SHIT. IM NOT MAKING ANY FUCKING MORONIC CLAIMS ABOUT ANYTHING. I DONT NEED TO PROVE SHIT BECAUSE IM NOT MAKING ANY STUPID FUCKING CLAIMS. ONE MORE TIME SHITSTAIN ITS BURDEN OF PROOF. IF YOU CANT PROVE IT YOURSELF DONT PUSH IT OFF TO SOMEONE ELSE, SINCE CLEARLY YOUR IN A WEAK ARGUMENTITIVE POSITION TO START

>>670643559
Lets hear it christfag

>>670643559
Nigga you cant even spell allegory, let alone understand one.

>>670643707
why, yes, yes you do.if you're to argue burden of proof, you need to question that which observes. How can I measure burden of proof if "proof" is measured in observation?

>>670643729
Caves have centipedes. Centipedes live in vaginas.
God 1 Atheists 0

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>>670635008

>Why can't Christians build walls?

>>670643878
The interesting thing about basis on empirical fact is that it's limited to the observer. This is the principle aspect of scientific observation. Events appear "thusly" because of the position of observation.

>>670644117
because they expect Mexicans to pay for them

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>>670635327
Do I need to prove a negative?

>>670644206
Therefore, if we're to label one or more things "as existing" we must first pre-suppose our position of "existing" to observe.

>>670643878
This grade school psycologist bullshit argument does not work here faggot. Go try to look smart on rediit or your tumblr blog

>>670644391
really, it's a fundamental point of scientific observation, that the observer affects the outcome. if you're not admitting this, you're not being intellectually honest..

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>>670642857
Days y u smoke nigga

>>670644510
I don't mind your accusation of my position as sophomoric, but you must relent. Now we're both child-like observers.

>>670644510
So youre saying that observations cannot be 100% trusted, therefore "lol god amirite lmao"? Youre just trying to disprove empiricism, naively thinking that that somehow shifts the burden of proof. It doesnt, it just makes everyone, including you, possibly wrong even when relying on evidence

>>670644510
Of course the observer affects the outcome, but the observer, like in any case of looking at things rationally, makes choices and decisions based off evidence presented in the first place if any is even presented at all.. If the question is retarded and not backed up with information the observer can research and verify then your just a gullible moron who accepts whatever your told

>>670644709
This

>>670644709
I'm saying that data is accumulated based on the participant's capacity to observe and accumulate data. This isn't negotiable. I'm not trying to prove unreal things exist, to the contrary, I'm citing the fact one cannot dismiss existence of aspect purely on the condition you or I cannot observe said "thing".

I'm saying try harder. Just because we cannot observe something, being intellectually honest, does not prove it's non-existence.

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>>670644879
why. if i know every observation is solely dependent on the observer, why am I mistaken to say what I'm saying.

You beg science. Then be scientific.

Gr8 b8 m8. I r8 8/8

>>670644973
Nobody in their right mind claims that lack of evidence proves non-existence. However, it is only logical to assume non-existence until existence is proven. Do you even into empiricism?

>>670644973
But neither should we just believe in this kind of mindset with no evidence to even begin with. It has to start somewhere

I've seen this "Christian" cancer posted in /b/ for three days. Stop this fucking cancer.
>Nobody gives a fuck
>nobody is converting because of you.
>stop shitposting
>profit???

>>670645142
Finally some common fucking sense

>>670645106
Because the observer needs to be smart enough to accept facts, truth and evidence when its put before him

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So instead of curing cancer or feeding Africans or stopping terrorists he goes around vaguely writing his name on chickens and shit?

>>670645009
Wow, your pretty edgy anon. Go die

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>>670645146
empiricism is based on the observer. you're pre-supposing you exist.

it's a way. it's not the way. it's the way we have. it's pragmatism.

see, i have no problem with what you're saying, except for the issue you're arguing scientific method. I'll stop at stoplights and take my dog to the doctor when he appears sick, too. You can't take this, however, to the nth degree and say it explains everything. It simply does not. You're not being fair or right.

>>670645422
Were not saying it explains everything! Its the best we have right now and is only getting better. Its a process refined with that little thing weve been arguing about called evidence. What we all should be relying on to make sane decisions in our lives, rather than believing in sky fairies with no proof of existence

>>670645422
Im pre-supposing a lot of things. Im pre-supposing that im not in the matrix, that i dont have an invisible tail, that i cant travel through time even if i try really really hard. I dont know if im actually a human living on planet earth, but it seems that i am. And since there is no reason to believe that the universe is any different from the way i perceive it, i base everything on the assumption that my observation represents the world. You got any proof that that's incorrect? No? Then get the fuck out, you cunty pseudo-philosopher.

>>670645658
well, see, that's not being intellectually honest. even einstein knew this. hence "god does not play dice". I respect an analytical mind. I can't respect dismissal on the basis you want to prove empricism, when that, in and of itself, is based on observation. You need a new argument than "because science!"

>>670645681
Sure, there's plenty of proof it isn't right. The fundamental quality of scientific observation that it's based on the observer.

>>670645937
>theres plenty of proof
>doesnt point to proof
Try again

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What "atheists" don't understand is that we don't need to prove God exist.
We know for a fact he does, since he appeared to us.
If aliens came in your garden in a spaceship and you have a long conversation with them, they solve all of your life problems and leave without a trace, you won't be able to prove it but you know it's the truth, and that's what matters.

Atheist are just angry and jealous kids who also want God to appear to them and enlighten them, but with that attitude... have fun spending an eternity in Hell.

God doesn't fuck around.

>>670646139
>youll believe when you see him
>you wont see him cause you dont believe
Lets go around in circles, its fun!

>>670646139
This is a debate for adults. Fuck off now

>>670645422
i think, therefore i am... this is the proof that i exist

>>670645989
see, math is values and variables observed with the intent to predict outcome. Think outside the box. This is entirely based on what we have the capacity to observe.

To state "we observe everything" is particularly limiting and unwise.

>>670645848
Most ppl in the field of quantum mechanics no longer agree with what einstein said. Bells theorem, look it up.

>>670646373
it is circular reasoning. it is a pre-supposition. it's not intellectually honest.

>>670646386
Did you read what i typed? I KNOW that our observation is limited and flawed. But that doesnt tell us anything, it doesnt prove god, and certainly doesnt make him more likely to exist. Guess what, our flawed observation is all weve got, so lets roll with it and try to improve it along the way. Fucking child.

Theist claim to support science, yet they do not have proof that god exists.

>>670646419
oh, man, i follow michio kaku intently. believe me. everything I'm saying is an attempt to break molds.

can someone explain me this meme

>>670635008
This picture. Every goddamn time.

>>670646502
I absolutely read what you typed and I'm being patient with it.

>>670642402
Jesus the intelligence level of these muslims in 2016 and then also be arrogant as fuck about their sandnigger religion.
I swear even niggers are more welcome in my country.

>>670646528
Everything your saying is an attempt to deflect the argument.

>>670635008
>Proving non existence
>Implying you know anything about science

Every proof starts off with axioms.
Burden of proof arguments come down to "you have to accept my axioms, I don't have to accept yours."

>>670646701
no, I'm proving "an argument" isn't good enough. I'm not trying, here, to prove or disprove the existence of things not observed. I'm saying the method being used isn't intellectually honest and you need to try harder.

>>670646945
to wit, "because science!" is not an argument because the fundamental basis is the point of observation. try harder.

What I think is hilariously ironic is that atheists go about screaming "there is no god" saying we shouldn't believe in made-up stuff that has no proof.

>Yet a disturbingly large number of these faggots TOTALLY believe in absolutely nonsensical stuff like HOLLOW EARTH!

>What a bunch of morons!

>/thread

>>670647136
People who believe in hollow earth are dumbasses and mostly severely religious.

>>670635008
For fuck's sake I thought this shitposter stopped.

>>670646945
The method you claim isnt honest has advanced our knowledge tenfold about our understanding of the sciences and brought us untold knowledge. I guess you have a better method that is better than all of theirs.... wishful thinking!

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See, here's the thing. Realistically, in an attempt to be genuine, the "answer" to "things that do not exist" is empty set. This is like a bag with zero contents to the observer. The bad exists, so to say nothing is there is dishonest. It's the sum of all numbers greater than 8 but less than 7. The principle of super-sentient beings "exists". It's not a matter of proof or lack of proof.

Actually you choose a position based on pragmatism, because no real scientific or mathematical position posits one way or the other. To beg it is folly and disingenuous.

>>670635327
If God doesn't exist, then who wrote the Bible?

Checkmate, asshat.

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Deus Vult!

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>>670648040
the "bag" exists. typo

anyway, this is a genuine scientific observation. something might or might not exist. you cannot, however, beg data to prove or disprove it. You're not being fair.

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>>670635008

Do you know Bobby?

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>>670635008

fixd

>>670648320
Further, if you're to postulate "no empty set exists", you'd might as well stop right now and venture no further in analytical observation.

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not fun anymore, huh.

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>>670639745
Energy has no mass yet it exists.... Your example is invalid

>>670641580
Lrn2science fgt pls

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>>670635008
Why do bible bashers care so much about us atheists, we dont care about you.
believe what you want to believe and get on with your life. You should have a moan about the people that worship those other gods, you know the wrong ones.

>>670649396
As the person who has been so mouthy throughout this thread, I agree. It's important for the individual to believe what he chooses to believe. I'd not attempt to mess with his world, unless he asks, then I would tell him what I think, but only because that line of communication is open.

>>670635008
My mum said not to post in these threads

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inZZfElmSLY

"You cannot win an argument with someone that believes in god".

>>670649716
You can't win an argument with someone who misconstrues science, either.

The burden of proof isn't on the atheist. I don't need to prove something doesn't exist.

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My mom said these threads are "for the gays"

>>670649593
It's the 'Spreading the word' thing that gets you all high and mighty.

Just imagine for one second that you picked the wrong god, wouldn't you feel just a little cheated?

>>670649858
Quite.
If I theorise something, the onus is on me to prove it.

Try patenting anything with as little proof as those have, whom believe in god.

>>670649975
I guess that depends on the reason I would have chosen. If I'd followed Koresh and his understanding, or the people who believed aliens were behind a comet, then yeh, I think so.

If I chose because it makes me comfortable with my world outlook, then no, I think it would magnify my propensity to be a contributor.

>>670635327
My evidence : The universe couldn't have created itself

>>670635008
no dont do that

>>670650228
It certainly couldn't have been created when the bible says it was. This rules out god creating it.

You can't have it both ways.

>>670650228
If the universe can't create itself, who created the creator of the universe?

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>>670636087

how could anyone still fall for these threads.

>>670650228
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oH0ReL3Cew

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This thread again.

>>670635497
He is back!!

>>670650627
He is back our lord and saviour!

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>>670650792
all hail cheesus crust

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>>670635008
I fail to comprehend the purpose of this observation. It is essentially states that A is B and A is not C and that's all. To say this is as meaningful to say "my cat purrs, but it is unable to pay taxes".

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>>670650381
These breads/theists/fake-theists are funny.. so why not??

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>>670635008
I swear this same thread is posted every 30 minutes, please just shut the fuck up OP and mind your own damn business, nobody likes you and nobody wants tou here.

>>670650228
Einstein Cartan theory

the universe is eternal. god is a figment of the imagination for under educated gullible people.

plus, sage

>>670651718
I love Gervais, he pinpoints the failings in faith, so eloquently.

>>670635008
back from the ban are we

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>>670643559
How the fuck is that relevant?

Now the ontological argument would be relevant but its flawed (Kant unequivocally showed that existence cannot be a predicate in a deductive argument).

The teleological argument would be relevant too but too bad we know now that evolution produces complexity over a geological time scale.

There is no sound or cogent argument for God to exist and the burden of proof is on theists.

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>>670635008
the burden of proof's on you, faggot... or would rather be accused of shit and then have to prove yourself innocent?

>>670645009
your a fucking idiot

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>>670648040
have you read Godel, Escher, Bach? you'd like it

I have one Question.

Why did 2 fucking penguins walk all the way down from the Polar regions
Just to get onto Nohas ark?

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The same talking points with the same riled up emotions.

You guys are fucking pathetic.

>>670650228
Now all you've got to do is prove the universe couldn;t have created itself and you're set

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>>670655803

shitposting so our whiteknight hero will dump more anti religious memes

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>>670656261

Will do...

>>670646715
Pearls before swines brotha, pearls before swines...

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>>670656261

And more...

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>>670656829

>>670656911
kek

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>>670657106

My favourite...

>>670644255
You need to prove every claim you make, negative doesn't matter.

Or you could just admit you have no fucking idea whether or not god exists.

>>670657220
Until you prove unicorns dont exist shut the fuck up.
You cannot prove a negative.
We are not making a claim
You are making a claim
we are denying your claim without evidence.

Ok how about this. Lets dismiss the atheist claim that god doesnt exist. Then equally we dismiss the theist claim god exists.
Awesome we win.

>>670635008
How much do you get paid to post this every single day? I'm genuinely interested. Because I can see no reason you'd do this because you actually believe it, and if you did it for the keks you'd be bored as fuck by now.

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>>670657433
>shitposting so our whiteknight hero will dump more anti religious memes
I'm the whiteknight and I'm not bored..

>>670635008
Indeed, science cannot prove that your invisible friend high up in the sky doesn't exist.

Enjoy its friendship, and don't forget to walk your pet rock as well (this tiny things can get very dirty, you know)

>>670657433
He does it so he can then post a bunch of bait thread memes involving fish in his own thread

>>670635008
Hey god burger.

Lets make a deal.
If i am alive after calling god to strke me dead instantly then you stop these shit threads. If you dont stop then you are going to hell for being a lying faggot.

Ok. Ready. ??

Oh god strike me dead instantly now amen.

>>670643559
>Allegory of the Cave
>Plato

The Allegory of the Cave is an argument developed to discuss what kind of politician and leader would be the most fitting one for a society such as Athens or Greece. Completely irrelevant to the God discussion.

Literally has no place or correlation with it.