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So, America... Why do you still allow people to own guns? The
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So, America... Why do you still allow people to own guns? The logic does not add up.

Less guns = Less Shootings, surely?

I mean come on! you allow blind people to own guns, then go shit crazy when someone tries to help you guys...

I don't give a shit about your "rights" you are all ignorant and only care about what was written down fuckin years ago....

Your country is almost worse than all Religions

>i need guns so i can protect myself from other people w/ guns..

You fucking moron, if you take all guns away that would not happen.

Prove me wrong
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>>670507765
Those same bill of rights allows you to open your cunt mouth. Get an education and shut the fuck up.
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>>670508024
I don't live in America, so that does not apply to me.

you salty because i called out your failing country?

Get over it Americunt
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>>670508024
Ooooo goddamn anon. That was nasty!! :)
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That's the same thing they thought when they tried to take drugs away and yet here we doing heroine and cocaine and smoking weed right not impressed with your bait mate
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>>670507765

Yes like lower gun deaths other places has but violent crime rate skyrocket and also are higher than here. Stop being mad because you can't protect against muhammad raping and if you do its against your stupid laws. Your criminals have more rights than ours and that's saying something. Least we can kill them.
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>>670508555
Wasted trips, americunt..

You clearly missed the point so im just gunna call you a faggot.

Also its not b8
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>>670508024
Preach
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>>670508656

Forgot to add muh wasr and drum.
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>>670508024
>>670508549
Samefag, apex kek
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>>670508206
We here laugh at your shit countries too. Nobody cares when you guys tell us you laugh at us. Aren't you busy catering to immigrants?
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You're obviously a gunclinging faggot just false flagging

Same shit /pol/ does every day. I bet you'll show up in the thread later on to be a smug cunt and 'expertly' refute yourself.
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>>670507765
OMG SILLY ME I FORGOT BANNING STUFF ACTUALLY WORKED xDddd
LET'S BAN BREATHING SO ALL THE CRIMINALS DIE AND LET'S BAN SICKNESS SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT shit b8 m8 0/8
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>>670508838
Not if we all vote for borris and leave the EU, those sandniggers dont come down south anyway so i honestly could not give a fuck
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>>670507765
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TC2xTCb_GU
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>>670509064
>>670509110
I am not baiting, are you guys not worried that your leader of ya country is black and actually doing you good? WTF is going on w/ ya?
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>>670508679
Lol right and what is that point again wanna change your argument after you started it shit boi go take some of that "leet" euro education and learn to debate cause you lost nigga
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>>670509257
>filename

Get cancer, faggot
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>>670508679
>Also its not b8
>>670509327
I am not baiting

The evidence shows otherwise fuckstick
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>>670509602
>fuckstick
Sorry, how old are you?

NiggerFaggot
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>>670509689
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>>670509799
Do you only save pics of /b/?

No OC?

Typical America, fat and lazy
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>>670509868
IM NOT FUCKING BAITING FUCKING STOP SAYING THAT YOU FUCKING SICK FUCK STOOOOOOP
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>>670507765
Obvious bait

1.8/10
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>>670509945
>>670510036
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>>670509945
>No OC?
>>670507765
>>670508206
kek
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>>670510123
YOU ARE MAKING ME ANGRY YOU SICK FUCKIN CUM DUMPSTER FUCK YOU STOP PLZ YOU WONT LIKE ME WHN IM ANGRY
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>implying we have a "gun violence" problem
>not knowing the majority of "gun violence" deaths are suicides and the rest is gang related
>not knowing defensive gun use is estimated at 500,000 to 2.5 million times a year

>tfw some people will never get to enjoy gun ownership

Have fun getting raped and killed by all the immigrants you europoors welcomed in with open arms
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>>670510342
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>>670510405
this is a bait thread
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>>670510299
>>670510405
>>670510482
STOP FUCKING BULLYING ME GO PLAY W/ YOUR GUNS YOU FAT FUCKS LOL

I WILL KILL YOU ALL WITH A KNIFE CUZ I AINT NO PUSSY W/ A GUN
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>>670510697
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>>670507765
Kek. It's part of the constitution which made this country great and into one of the most influential world powers. Fagface
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>>670510589
>>670510739
I AM NOT FUCKING BAITING STOP SAYING THAT JUST LISTEN TO ME PLEEEEASE
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>>670507765
>if you take all guns away
>all guns
>away

naive, GL trying to do that (Eurofag here)
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>>670510984
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>>670510969
>which made this country great
Please exit the thread sir, you have gone full retard . When a black man is the best thing to happen to your country, thats when you know its fucked
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>>670507765
Sorry, but your logic is flawed. Less guns doesn't necessarily equate to less shootings. Why? Cause people will make homemade guns and ammo and shoot people with that. Ooops...guess you should have paid attention in your philosophy classes.
I'm okay with a blind person owning a gun. As long as they practice safe gun handling techniques, why should anyone be worried?
If you don't give a shit about MY rights and don't even live here, then here's a big ol' American "FUCK YOU, BUDDY".
Don't try to mess with the local laws if your a foreign fag.
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>>670507765
>if you take all guns away that would not happen.
Who gonna take all mah guns away?
With what army? What kind of heat will they be packin'? What about those who know how to make guns? Maybe we should shoot them b4 they start making more guns and selling them to niggers!
You are full on retarded.
>from my cold dead hands.
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>>670510997
>>670511156
>>670511174
>>670511209
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>>670510984
HUUUURRRRR. BLEASE BILEVEB BEE!
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>>670507765
>Less guns = Less Shootings, surely?
FEWER, you retard.
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>>670511294
taking bate so others don't have to
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>>670510984
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>>670510405
Avarege crime/rape rates in EU are still about half of those you have in US.
Maybe you should try to get your shit country civilized before you come around being all edgy on /b/
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>>670511450
Thank you based grammar anon. That alone brought me to this thread
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You hate us because you're not us
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>>670511450
>Falling for the b8 in 2016
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>>670507765
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>>670511529
Niggers are part of USA, they cant be civilised
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>>670508206
Enjoy your pointed sticks for self defense.
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>>670507765

Only white men should be armed.
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Get those dirty firearms off of my colors!
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>>670507765
>I can't history or math so I ask 4chinns the same question every day

Americans wrote it into law, you wont take our guns.

You don't live here, so don't worry about it.
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All the government needs to do is repeal the 2nd amendment

That would be a great start
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>>670512336
I would go out shooting
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>>670512280
You cant really english either. Way to go defending USA, faggot.
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>>670507765
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Simply because with as many guns already here, criminals already have access to them. Shooters already choose 'gun-free' zones for their crimes for lack of danger to themselves, because a law-abiding citizen won't bring a gun there, so they don't have to worry about getting shot back.

You turn the whole country into a gun-free zone, and gun crime will skyrocket. Areas with higher gun ownership have less gun-related crime
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>>670507765

If you ever sat through any history class ever, then you would know that disarmament of the people inevitably leads to tyranny. I would rather have stupid citizens kill each other occasionally than the gov't coming in with military-grade weaponry and launching us into our next genocidal adventure.
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>>670507765
Oh wise one tell me HOW you think gun confiscation will go in America..

I am in law enforcement and I really am curious how people who want to ban guns think we are going to collect the ones that are already out there.
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>>670512707
Im just happy to be in EU. Living a save live. Low crime rates. No scary guns around.

>mfw Retarded usa logic
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>>670512556
>You can't really english
So much irony
You no english
Much funny
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>Butthurt anti-gun pissed their fee fees get BTFO everytime they cry for more bans

Keep crying nigger thanks to you faggots ccw laws are getting better and now even CA is shall issue. You morons lost the moment you started treating the NRA like a bad guy from Saturday morning cartoons, then you couldn't come up with any statistics that weren't blatant lies or disingenuous "facts" and fell back on slogans and buzzwords.

>muh "not one more"
>muh "common sense"
>muh momma knows best
>muh tiny penis
>muh need
>muh "gun deaths"
>muh crying obama
>muh extendo assault clipazines
>muh "high power"
>muh muskets
>muh hunting
>WON'T SOME ONE THINK OF THE CHILLUNS

You faggots lost
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>>670513221
Ye so safe. Enjoy dem rufugees m8
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>>670513242
>Being this new
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As a police officer I support strict gun control, don't you?
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>>670513669
As an armed civilian, if you come for my guns I'll find your address and murder your kids in their sleep :)
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>>670513106
Lol. I'm with you. Veteran here. They usually say the police and military will take them.
That's the funniest story, and shows that only complete idiots think Americans will ever give up their firearms.
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>>670513484
Have you ever really studied the rates of rape and crime? Germany is significantly saver to live then the US is. Even by any charts conducted by your own research.
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>>670514005
Yeah, until recently :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enrdd-XsF5Q
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>>670514221

Heeeeeeeere's Jihadi!!!!
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>>670507765
>The logic does not add up.

You, logic. Pick one.
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>>670513221
Yeah, that 'safety'
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>>670511156

I think "Yes we can" only meant "yes, we can elect a nig." That's the only promise that he has kept hahaha. He lies just as well, if not better, than the whiteys before/after him.
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Why do you allow your country to have military? More military = more wars
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>>670514221
It won't even make a dent in the rates. Good luck living in fear of being shot/raped every single day in your shit country.
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>>670514005
>Germany is significantly saver to live then the US is

Now compare it to rural America and not shitholes liek Shitcago and Detroit inflating the statistics with homicide rates 5-6 times the national average.

"The US" is a country of 300 million with a mass much, much greater than Germany. To compare such a huge landmass with 50 different governments and 50 different sets of gun laws is idiotic.
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Drugs are illegal, people still get and use drugs, right? Say guns are illegal. People will still get and use guns, so why make it so people can't protect themselves?
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>>670513813
I would expect exactly that type of result, which is why "this policeman" is not going to collect guns from anybody, other than a crook at a crimescene.. :-)
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>>670507765
Because the good ppl with guns get screwed. We take away guns. The bad guys still get gun they dont do it legally so now America has good ppl no guns bad ppl guns. See how that works buddy
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>>670507765
>Less guns = Less Shootings, surely?
No, it depends on the demographics of the area. In reality, it's Less Niggers = Less Shootings.
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>>670511529
>Avarege crime/rape rates in EU are still about half of those you have in US

>avarege

also, i'm not a nigger, so i don't worry too much about gun crime.
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>Because banning guns does a whole lot of good
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>>670515389
I can't help it those states are part of usa.

But to be fair. You got a good point. 1st good argument so far.

I bet it must be hard for you to defend USA when you got so many dumb fucks around you, to stupid to write their own names. It's the arrogance that make us eurofags hate you guys so much. Not the ones that can write and argue on a civilized level.
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>>670516386
You realize it was already going up, right?
Idiot.
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>>670516778
The latest data is still higher than before the ban. Point is it did fuck all for murder rates
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>>670516079
Yeah well, not my first language. We could continue the conversation in dutch, german, french or italian. See how you fare with those languages?
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>>670512700
1.6million registered firearms in the UK
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>>670512707
Serious question anon;
What brand of tin foil do you use?
I'm sure mine is letting gubernment mind controls rays in
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>>670514865
Yet I still feel safe enough that I don't need to own a gun.
Can you say the same?
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>>670515389
I was going to compare murder rates to the entirety of the European union.
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>>670515587
But the point is I can't take my illegal pills/coke/weed and go and shoot a bunch of strangers to death with it
Are you really that dumb?
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>>670517782
I live in a safe low crime white area, and I've never needed to use my gun, yet I still carry because I have the freedom to choose.
Can you say the same?
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>>670516386
They aren't banned you retard
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>>670507765
There will always be people with weapons dumb shit just because they are outlawed doesn't mean outlaws won't have them your argument is invalid and your autism is apparent this is probably bait but just in case...
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>>670518045
Yes
Guns are not banned in the UK
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>>670518045
That's weird.
You do something because you can not because you want to?
Do you ride a unicycle to work?
Do you have an off shore bank account?
Do you make your own clothes?
These are all things you could choose to do
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>>670518100
They are if they don't have a very long barrel on them

>>670518268
I'm talking about carrying them for self defense
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>>670518045
Do you seriously want to compare the freedom of US citizens vs EU citizens? Good luck with your 2 party faked democracy. Lulz
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>>670518734
Good luck with your authoritarian nanny-police state
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>>670518613
I don't see your point in your shitpost
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>>670507765
>Implying Americans have developed logic yet
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>>670518865
Not sure which direction this comment is going in...
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>>670518953
You're cute
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>>670518865
Nice fucking argument, retard.
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>>670519359
Difference is when the government gets out of control, Americans can shoot back
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>>670507765
So hey, if your so concerned about life, why aren't you asking everyone to ban cigarettes?
Second hand smoke kills more innocent people every year, than guns. Those are non smokers killed by smokers!
That's murder!
http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/secondhand_smoke/general_facts/
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>>670507765
nigger, Americans arw the only thing keeping the Mexicans from invading Canada. Should we fight mexicans that have assault rifles with our fists?
Cause we America. &&& We Will
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>>670507765
>So, America... Why do you still allow people to own guns? The logic does not add up.

It's on the constitution, it's a right Americans have. No government can take away.

>Less guns = Less Shootings, surely?

I have 15 guns, they have never shot anyone and even if you get rid of all guns, bad guys will still smuggle them, bad guys will use knives or explosives. Murder is older than guns, shit even a car is considered a deadly weapon.

>I mean come on! you allow blind people to own guns, then go shit crazy when someone tries to help you guys...

Blind have rights, are you saying they are not people? So if someone has a disability they are immediately subhuman? And who's trying to help us? You? With what with arguments with no backing?

>I don't give a shit about your "rights" you are all ignorant and only care about what was written down fuckin years ago....

I don't give a shit about your feels, if you think the constitution is no longer valid, then we need to limit freedom of speech to only written paper and word of mouth. Obviously the constitution was devices in a time where only these two methods are to be used to spread your bullshit.

>Your country is almost worse than all Religions

Gun ownership has never beheaded people, gun ownership has never suicide bombed people. Gun ownership has never made someone violent. Your religions do a good job at all if he above though

>>i need guns so i can protect myself from other people w/ guns..
>You fucking moron, if you take all guns away that would not happen.

Again how are the Japanese organized crime armed? Oh geez God forbids criminals do not follow the law.

>Prove me wrong

No need. All that has been stated without factual evidence can be dismissed without factual evidence.
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>>670519359
Offensive speech will not be tolerated!
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>>670519995
?????
Is this real??
What do you think you're government is going to do? I genuinely don't understand this fear
Can you elaborate?
Do you think you're all going to be enslaved or something? Forced to work? Pay taxes? What is the fear? What's your worst case scenario?
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I don't live in America, I live in the UK. We haven't been hit by this migrant stuff. Honestly I don't see the problems with guns. The only people who do are liberals and SJW fags.
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>>670520076
That's not the point and you know it you spastic
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>>670521118
>end free speech
>end privacy laws (4th amendment)
>police brutality and civil rights violations
>etc

Honestly the biggest reason people like to own guns in America is self defense from both two and four legged predators. When seconds count, police are minutes away, and if you live in a rural area, police can be hours away
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who the fuck is gonna enforce that we dont have guns? is it gonna be people with guns or people without guns? our country is fucked and we are all fuckin autistic but logically we should be allowed to have guns, they should just be less easy to purchase
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>>670521397
Oh, the point isn't saving human life or prevention of murder, the whole point of this thread is;
YOU MUST BE LIKE ME, I CAN'T HAVE SOMETHING SO YOU CAN'T EITHER.

Thanks for being honest.
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>>670521118
They erode away at my rights until I'm not allowed to legally hand a child a butter knife
>UKlol
If they decide to make certain items illegal, all it does is create criminals from those who potentially would not have been criminals before the law. Not like I give a fuck; I keep out of trouble under the watchful eye of big brother. It's the principal of the matter. You gotta draw the line somewhere.
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>>670521118
Possibly you should learn some history

Here’s a history of what happens after governments have disarmed their citizens:

1911 – Turkey disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1915 – 1917 they murdered 1.5 million Armenians.

1929 – Russia disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1929 – 1953 they murdered 20 million Russians.

1935 – China disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1948 – 1952 they murdered 20 million Chinese.

1938 – Germany disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1939 – 1945 they murdered 16 million Jews.

1956 – Cambodia disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1975 – 1977 they murdered 1 million Educated people.

1964 – Guatamala disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1964 – 1981 they murdered 100,000 Mayan Indians.

1970 – Uganda disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1971 – 1979 they murdered 300,000 Christians.

[Editor: You can argue about the numbers, but the point here is that disarmed citizens are vulnerable, and that there are many historical examples of disarmed citizens being killed and oppressed by their own government. The excuse given by authorities that they need to take guns away from citizens in order to lower crime rates is not supported by facts. Even if a government does not turn on its own citizens after disarming them, people are less safe – because unarmed citizens are easy targets to criminals. Over and over again, it has been clearly shown that taking guns away from citizens does not lead to a decrease in crime but rather a dramatic increase.]

Australia has disarmed it’s citizens, and a year later the homicide rate in the largest province is up 300%. The burglaries of seniors is “dramatically” up.

I guess the criminals did not turn their weapons in. Only the innocent law abiding citizens turned in weapons.
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>>670519995
We don't have to be afraid of the goverment, cause we live in a democracy.

And if your military would turn on you. That gun under your pillow is not going to make a difference.
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>>670522724
And you really believe this could happen in modern America?
To an outsider this sounds worryingly unfeasible
What would the government have to gain from this?
You list some pretty dubious countries there
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>>670522096
Do you genuinely, hand on heart ,believe this is the case in the UK?
To put it as simply as I can; it's not
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>>670522979
Take this to a cringe thread faggot
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>>670522096
With a post like this showing the way you think I see you've already drawn a line under ever losing that pesky virginity of yours.
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>>670507765
Idk about you, but when I'm deciding who I wanna shoot, I try to choose people that don't have guns.
In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.
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>>670524159
( you came waaaayyyy late to this party pal. Still, thanks for your shit contribution )
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>>670517623

God damn you are ignorant as fuck.
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>>670524159
In a civilized country generally people don't have to shoot anyone.
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>>670522724
>Turkey
>Russia
>China
>Uganda
>Gutamela
>Cambidia
>Other third world dictator run shit holes
(The Germany one is wrong in many ways btw)
Are you trying to make yourself look stupid?
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>>670523378
History shows, time and time again, that they only reason to disarm a population is to keep it powerless.
A career criminal is running for president, if you didn't know. Hillary Clinton is under investigation for money laundering and violations in handling classified materials, and running for president. Never thought I'd see that.
>coming from an outsider
that's why you don't understand, you can't, you're on the outside.
>what would the government gain by this?
What did the 7 countries gain by exterminating their competition? If you can't answer your own question, you're not old enough to be here.
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>>670524540
Nah they just stab them like in the uk
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>>670524742
Hey
I'm asking genuine questions
Trying to educate myself as I'm sure you'll agree is beneficial to both of us
Why do you have to be so nasty with them shitty little comments?
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Because america is stupid and can't even learn how to read well enough to understand their 2nd amendment means that guns are for militias only.
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>>670524699
>I don't like history and can't prove you wrong so I'm calling names.

Great tactic, kid.
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>>670523321
America is a democracy as well, because of the people, not the government.
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>>670521947
That's really not the point of the thread
Are you deliberately misunderstanding everything?
It's no fucking wonder you feel the need to arm yourself you paranoid cuck
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>>670524981
That isn't even nasty, newfriend, I didn't call you one name. I didn't imply you were dumb, and I'm not responsible for that giant mangina you have.
If your feelings are so easily hurt, this isn't the place for you.
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>>670525105
No names were called
Can you even read ENGLISH?
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>>670525071
>The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/311

>"....the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
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>>670525232
Hey
I'm asking genuine questions
Trying to educate myself as I'm sure you'll agree is beneficial to both of us
Why do you have to be so nasty with them shitty little comments?
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>>670525377
>moot detected
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>>670507765
>Bait: the post

Wow, you couldn't paint a more ignorant picture if I blew your brains out and used blood to paint it.
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>>670507765
people will literally always find a way to kill each other, the first fucking murder between humans was a rock. Take away guns and then people start using knifes and illegal weapons to murder one another. At least with a damn gun you could possibly protect yourself in a situation, and why should you in a foreign country even give a shit?
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>>670525377
Woah.
Sorry brah.
I'd really hate to see your darkside.
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>>670524742
Why do you stay in the US if you're so paranoid about it?
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>>670525561
Sorry. I posted this twice.
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>>670525480
>Are you trying to make yourself look stupid?
That's contemptuous.

and you still haven't proven one word wrong, so you have no grounds to say I'm inaccurate.
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>>670525912
Being aware of something doesn't make one paranoid
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>>670526128
Prove you're right
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>>670525912
Why do you worry about the US so much if you don't live in it?
I never once said I was paranoid.
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>>670526215
You don't get out much do you anon :(
Wanna Skype?
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>>670507765
>less guns = less shootings
>hey guys let's make drugs illegal too so no one uses them
>ohwait.jpg
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>>670525671
Dumbfuck conservifuck that doesn't understand that the world isn't black and white and there are things we can do to make things safer that aren't 100% effective. The idea that "hurr it isn't 100% effective so we shouldn't do it" is fucking goddamn stupid.

Cry more, little conservitard babies. You've lost all your arguments and you are completely irrelevant to modern society. Go fuck yourselves and go move to another country where you can practice your goddamn totalitarianism bullshit all you want.
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>>670526413
My wife is American
I have an interest in where she's from
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>>670526566
Awwe, is the bernie supporter upset his communist scum of a candidate is losing traction because people realize others taking their money isn't good?

I'm sorry, here you can off yourself and make the world a better place.
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It's pointless to try taking them away now, anyways. All you'll do is take away the weapons from those who own them legally.
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>>670526460
>resulting to condescending shiposting
Pathetic really
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>>670526285
You asserted that I was wrong, it's your job. Since you're a hopeless cause, here's some reading.

http://warriortimes.com/2011/04/24/what-happens-when-governments-disarm-their-citizens/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_gun_control_theory

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120724185840AAObkJO

http://freedomoutpost.com/2012/12/tyranny-always-involves-gun-control/

http://www.alipac.us/f19/what-happens-when-governments-disarm-their-citizens-269636/


All of those support what I posted. Things you should of learned in school.

Now prove me wrong.

Protip; ya can't.
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>>670526570
We'll move there one day no doubt. Two kids to take with us. Curious to see peoples attitudes and were this massive distrust of the government that afflicts a minority of gun owners comes from.
I have 4 shot guns already and will obviously increase my arsenal stateside.
I'm just very confused as to how someone can conclude a total police state from the suggestion of stricter gun regulation
That's all.
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>>670527314
You sound mad
Lay down on this comfy couch and tell me alllll about your relationship with your government
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Gun is love gun is life. Dang'ol Jim dangle. I luv me some dead possum pussy
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>>670527364
I'm not going to read those
I simply can't be bothered
Thank you for spending your time on me though x
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>>670527539
>more condescending shitposting
Can't think of a real argument?
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>>670507765
Obvious bait is obvious.
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>>670526570
She isn't here, or affected by the laws.
You aren't here, or affected by the laws.

Pretty sure you have nothing to worry about, and should be more concerned about things happening on your side of the earth like this;
http://gawker.com/onlookers-cheer-suspected-arson-in-germany-as-refugee-h-1760468672
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