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go to /pol/

BUT FIRST CHECK THESE

>>670409436
Nobody can prove you wrong with logic. It's all emotional anyway. People seem to believe that every other candidate won't spend a crazy amount of money on OTHER bullshit (e.g. military, tax cuts for corporations, etc.) and Sanders is the only one who wants to expand govt spending. They ALL will. Anyone who says otherwise has marbles up their ass and I hope they get a mouth full of potato flakes.

fucking socialist piece of shit

/k/ here, I'm okay with pretty much whoever as long as they don't fuck with
>muh funs
>muh military

>>670410488
>triggered

>>670410488
u mad faggot?

>>670410902
That's why I like the Bern more than Hillary. Berny seems less likely to fuck with guns. He seems pretty reasonable, even the stuff that Hillary claims is crazy offensive.

Like the locked rifles on a train the same as planes rules he fought for.

>>670409436
>don't see why he wouldn't do well in office.
simple, can you tell me his views on foreign relations, trade agreements, the current wars, space exploration, etc.? No, because he is a one trick pony and everyone is blinded by what his plans are for the country alone.

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>>670410902
>/k/ here
Wow, awesome! How do u get the membership?

>>670410488
Such input, so wow.

>>670411439
nothing to be mad about, he isn't even going to win the nomination

>>670410488
Just about to say that.
All Hail Capitalism!

>>670409436
You are free to vote how you like but remember to take all of the candidates and their promises/platform with a HUGE grain of salt.

Most arrive to the Oval Office and realize quickly that they can't do most of what they told the public they would.

> big ass wall
> free college
> repeal Dodd Frank
> repeal Obamacare

all sound nice and get folks fired up, but in practice are very unlikely to happen. Always view things through a lens of skepticism this early in the game!

He's really a new deal type of person rather than a socialist. America's middle class was strongest back in the 50's when health care was more affordable and the rich were taxed 92 percent

>>670409686
/pol/ is conservative reddit

>>670409771
/thread

>>670409771
Agree and i like potato flakes. Hungry Jack ftw

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>>670409436

>>670415649
Atleast it's only one board and not the whole fucking website.

>>670411487
They both have a very antigun veiw point. Bernie literrally copied Hillary

>>670409436
poorfag here
Its bullshit people think its ok to steal money from rich people. they earned their money though our economy. you have no right to demand that they give away what they or their ancestors worked for.

I plan on becoming well off, and I will move overseas just to avoid giving an assload of my hard earned money to the rest of you dumb liberal feminist hippy kikes, and you piece of shit rednecks.

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>>670415015

>>670409436

>I honestly strongly support Bernie Sanders and don't see why he wouldn't do well in office.

I agree, the only problem is getting there. Shillary will beat Sanders, and Trump will stump Shillary.

BTW, you will only find shitposting on /b/. I don't know what you were thinking posting here.

>>670413826
>fears corporations going overseas
>corporations are already overseas
>All the while bribery is 100% legal here

>>670416666
check em

>>670416716

K? So you'll renounce your citizenship? Because Americans are still taxed abroad. And that doesn't have anything to do with dumb liberal hippie feminist kikes, that's a thing that already is and already has been in place.

>being this stupid

>>670409436
>end fossil fuel tax subsides
You do understand what that means right? Gas prices will skyrocket, but I guess your ass just rides you bicycle everywhere

>>670409436

>No matter how you cry, bitch and whine, Bernie will not be elected president.

>To help ensure that I will vote for him. No president I have ever voted for since I started voting in 1972 has ever won.

>I always vote for the one I want to lose and they always do.

>/thread.

That estimation of $32 trillion in healthcare seems like a gross overestimation.

You are going to have a greater burden on the system in the coming years with increased demand due to an aging population. Younger population growth is relatively stagnant. With stagnant wage growth, you are going to have creeping costs from that increased demand.

You shouldn't treat healthcare as a business. Artificially inflated healthcare costs in the US are only part of the problem. But you have to, because nothing is free in reality.

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Why

>>670409436
>jew
>focused on savings
I'm not surprised

>>670413826
>muh job creators

>>670417401
And then the demand for electric cars will go up, forcing all of the car companies to use the technologies that Elon Musk open sourced to compete in a new market.

If Bernie is elected it would be The second president dying before The end of his therme

>>670409436
Because Trump is more better.

>>670413826
>Why are you eating this man's shit?
Because, if I don't eat his shit, he'll take his shiteating jobs overseas!

>>670416716
>you have no right to demand that they give away what they or their ancestors worked for.
>or their ancestors
YES WE FUCKING DO WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO SEIZE ALL OF IT BECAUSE IT IS THE PROFITS FROM CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

Qualcomm

ECONOMICS
>Doesn't understand why car/home interest rates are lower than school loans.
http://i.imgur.com/EFwS19M.png
>Believes the wage gap exists.
http://i.imgur.com/8DqvDxD.png
>Tax plan will have devastating consequences.
http://taxfoundation.org/article/details-and-analysis-senator-bernie-sanders-s-tax-plan

PERSONAL
>Was on welfare
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/259434/bernie-sanders-lived-unemployment-couldnt-get-non-daniel-greenfield
>Believes women want to be raped
http://i.imgur.com/G0YEmrr.jpg
>Was apart of multiple communist and marxist organizations
http://nypost.com/2016/01/16/dont-be-fooled-by-bernie-sanders-hes-a-diehard-communist/
>Defended Castro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfw5uOWh2vM

TIME IN THE GOVERNMENT
>Voted yes on the Federal Crime Bill
https://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/27110/bernie-sanders/20/crime
>Passed 3 bills total, two of which were renaming a post office, so really only 1
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/27/bernie-sanders-record-in-congress-shows-little-soc/?page=all


He would be awful.

The real issue with socialism i.e. Bernie Sanders is we(tax payers < 99%) as a nation don't want to pay for your social programs, oh and we don't owe you a fucking thing.

Have you looked at some of the pictures of the people supporting Hillary Clinton and Sanders? It's a fucking who's who of /b.

I'm tired of paying taxes only to have it go to bullshit social handouts to people who have entered into this "pacifist" mentality. You want to have a paycheck worth earning, or medical go master some skill spend the time your jerking of to all the bullshit on /b to go better yourself and earn your shit like everyone else. Go read, go learn new skills, skills that actually have value.

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>>670419291
This is from today.

He doesn't even know what an adjective is. He's a fucking moron.

>>670419445
Out of touch boomer plz go

>>670419710
Im in my 30's shitbird...

>>670419912
Go be old somewhere else rethuglican scum

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>can't run his own rally
>can't run the country

>>670419553
Greedy, Fraudulent, Dishonest, Arrogant.*

Come the fuck on bernie, if you put the word in front of "man" and it sounds wrong, it isn't a fucking adjective.

>>670418321
So, I just have to buy a new electric car? Great..

>>670420056

Point is earn your damn paycheck by mastering a skill that's valuable. There are so many of your generation living with their parents. There's plenty of time to change that.

>>670418616
>>triggered

>bernthejew

Hapy birthday

>>670418616
Not the anon you replied to, but what crimes?
I've met "Rich" people, they trade stocks and don't do shit, they got a cabin in the woods and a beach house, living in a big house and doing whatever the fuck they want. They arn't the 1% but they don't have to do any work.

What crime did they commit?

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>>670409771
>has marbles up their ass
Reminds me of the time /tg/ tried to measure just how many marbles would fit up there.

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>Roses are red
>Violets are blue
>Trump 2016
>Don't vote for the jew

>>670409436
He's a keynesian, the world has lung cancer and he's prescribing ibuprofen as a cure.

Which is better than Trump's suggestion of keep smoking.

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>>670420866

OP you bernbot shill

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Most people in this country are not worth 15/hr and can not justify making a wage like that. If any of you think tirone biggums won't just be unemployed after trump gets in youre fucking retarded.

>>670421048
The order of those words mean everything. Basically meaning a woman does not enjoy intercourse with her man. Rape inherently means there is no pleasure and the notion of her being raped succeeds the notion of her sleeping with her man. Meaning she doesn't want to have intercourse with her man, its as bad as being gang raped by 3 men.

Damn have any of you been to school?

>>670419553
>coming from a jew
ohh the irony

>>670421874
>Most people in this country are not worth 15/hr and can not justify making a wage like that.

You have no idea how wages work, right trumpietard?

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I don't want some old cucked jew in the white house. Have you ever been to a jewish household? the men don't even exist, it is all this old jewish matriarch berating and beating the shit out of everyone.

>>670409436
That one fucking George Friedman analysis and now all Bernie supporters think single payer is the shit, even though even left-leaning economists are calling bullshit smh

>>670419291
Any Berniefags want to try and damage control this post?

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Can't imagine why a bunch of dumb libfag art majors with 100k in student debt for a worthless degree that still think money is free would vote for a cuck jew that is going to give everyone free money. Too bad they don't realize it takes actual hard work and good ideas and not just stealing all the money from the people with ideas and an actual work ethic.

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Can't wait for niggers to get even louder and have even more awesome ideas to make the country a better place. Things like #BLM terrorist groups, burning cities down and assaulting white people all the while denying they are the victims while they commit over half of the murders and robberies in this country despite being half the population

>>670422439
>Too bad they don't realize it takes actual hard work and good ideas and not just stealing all the money from the people with ideas and an actual work ethic.
>this is what trumptards actually believe
>mfw you are the epitome of stupidity described by weber 100 years ago

Hahahaha your'e fucking retarded, have a free (you)

>>670422885
A good cop is a dead cop. More dead cops.

>>670417361
If I finally make it to being wealthy after a full lifetime of struggling and nothing but setbacks, only to have my income unfairly taxed because "I'm rich and privileged" then yes. I will leave and give up citizenship.
Ill be damned if I struggle though life only to have my money handed to the dumb trash I went to high school with that all they did was do drugs, skip class, and just generally be white trash.

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Everytime a nigger kills another nigger or gets put down by a cop the world becomes a slightly better place.

>>670423413
How "wealthy" are you? How did you became wealthy? Because unless you have around 400,000 people working for you you're not wealthy, stop deluding yourself.

>>670423148
You sound a nigger pothead. Stfu

>>670423660
I bet your dad is a pig, I hope he dies.

>>670418616
Translation:

>"Fuck people who work for thier money, they're stupid! Why should they work when they can be like me and get everything for free?"

>"Fuck it! If they won't give it to us we'll fucking steal it from them! If we have to we'll kill a few along the way, nobody'll give a shit!"

>"If they can make millions and live like kings they should fucking well give us millions so we can live like kings, too!"

>"Work? Fuck you! I'm not gonna work for a fucking thing if I don't have to when there's stupid bastards out there who'll give me all I want for free!"

>>670413826
>this creates a hostile environment that will reduce the dependence on current existing insurance companies
That's the whole point. Those insurance companies are the reason health care in this country is so toxic, especially to the poor.
It is an omelette being made and eggs have to be cracked.
Some insurance companies will survive. Most of the shittier ones will be forced to drastically restructure or go bankrupt.
>Soc Security
Yes, this is one of the biggest and growing drains on the federal budget. The people on, and soon to be on it, are the ones who have let it get so decrepit. The government taking over the insurance aspect will also give it better leverage to force pharmaceutical companies to offer lower prices for drugs. This will reduce costs dramatically.
>Infrastructure
The worst part about it, this is mostly handled by local and state governments who allow contractors to make one, low-balled bid and then re-bid when they get the contract for a higher amount. It's bullshit and needs to stop. The greased palms that constantly go around are another thing that's an issue.
So, yes, you need enforcement of the corruption when it comes to laying out the paperwork to fix the infrastructure. You also eventually need to actually lay the fucking infrastructure itself. Something Congress has been sorely, pathetically lax about in the past 20 years.
>Student loan rates
These are an issue that needs to be addressed, but is not related to making public colleges accessible to all. In fact, they'd be no longer needed for public institutions.
The interest the government makes on those is a rather pathetic trickle over a very long period of time compared to other income.
>companies will leave!
If they want to participate in the world's largest economy they won't. And rich people have no where to go in the civilized world that won't tax them just as much if not more.

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>>670423863
unlikely cops actually know how to kill people lol, way more niggers die from cops than vice versa. Its like that movie zulu or 300 if you look up the ratios. Tons of dead fucking retarded nigger criminals and dumb potheads like you and like 1 or 2 dead cops.
It helps that the majority of the country agrees with dumb violent animals that antagonize cops being put down in the streets.

>>670416716

Kudos, anon. I wish you the best of luck and all success. I, myself, ended up being fairly wealthy through my own hard work, cleverness and shrewd business practices.

>Protip: if you want to succeed DO THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF EVERYTHING THE BERNTARDS DO!

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>>670424372
But cops still die, every dead cop is a victory. More dead cops.

>>670413826
Some butthurt faggot actually took the time to make this

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>>670424372

I don't give a shit about healthcare or free college. I'm supporting Bernie because he doesn't take money from SuperPacs and he led the fight to overturn Citizens United.

Every candidate except for Bernie and Trump are bought and paid for by international corporations and banks who owe no more allegiance to our country than they do to China. These traitors are corrupting our democracy and shipping thousands of good American jobs overseas.

If you don't vote for either Bernie or Trump, you are literally selling your country up the river.

>>670423799
My man, Ben "One Man Holocaust" Garrison is at it again!

>>670424662
And the worst part is that he's wrong, must be sad to waste time in something that's gonna be fucking stupid in the end.

>>670423971
Being poor gives you two types of perspectives.

You can work hard maybe fail and end up worse, but fuck it, you don't give a shit anymore.

Or, you become a little bitch, begging for handouts, buy a 70in flat screen while you live off of welfare.

Living in a poor area, I see both of these types of people. The people who work hard are beat down by the government with taxes and just generally being forgotten, not making enough money to thrive, yet their making money so the government doesn't seem them as needing help, they learn to not rely on the government and just keep fighting.

Then their are those that get lazy, refusing to work and using welfare loop holes, they live in a trailer and have diabetes and a bad leg, they need support. They make money by selling weed and use the welfare money to buy stupid shit, junk food, and drugs.

Then their are the people that make no money but want to. I see them as equal to homeless and I've decided to leave them out of this since they are going to be fucked no matter what the government does, this is extremely rare though.

These are just a poorfag's observations in a poor country area.

>>670416716
>I plan on becoming well off,
You never will be. No matter how many lottery tickets you buy.
You'll never be anything but a shit shoveler. In America or abroad.

Bernie is not going to be the Democrat candidate. Thats unfortunate because if Trump doesnt make the Republican nomination, i would vote for Bernie for the legal weed and no student loans.

>>670424974
Being "poor" in america is not being poor.

You know jackshit about poverty.

Shut the fuck up.

I actually support Bernie's economic plans, but that's not what I consider most important.

>>670424974
You need to take advantage of the free college and maybe you'll learn the differences between "there," "their," and "they're."

I cam easily probe you wrong... however i do support bernie... but think about how checks and balances work... bernie is a Democrat the Senate and house are mostly republicans... nothing will be passed!

>>670424126

When will you liberal Democrats ever learn? Can you learn?

Haven't you realized that, in the last fifty years, every single supposedly "good" social program that's been enacted has been either a total failure or the exact opposite of what it was said to be?

Case in point: national mandatory compulsory auto insurance law.

>This was proposed and pushed into law by Democrats!

They promised that it would reduce auto crash liability, provide for a way for all motorists to be covered with insurance.

>All it actually did was allow insurers RAISE AUTO INSURANCE RATES BY 7000 percent in ten years

Without providing any of the other benefits the Democrats promised.

Once again you've had the wool pulled over your eyes.

>IT IS TIME FOR YOU TO GET RED PILLED!

>>670422439
>hard work
>betraying their country by sending thousands of American jobs overseas to get around labor laws

>>670425165
Oh I'm sorry, I guess I never grew up in a trailer with no roof or bed because my mom was doing drugs instead of getting us food.

My bad anon, how could I be so foolish.

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>>670424739
>2016
>voting anti-establishment

>>670409436
FEEL THE URN!

>>670425243
>Can't come up with a valid point
>I'll insult his spelling

Original, like the papa johns pizza sauce staining your shirt.

>>670416700
Omg wow 2 liberals who r anti gun!! Wat is the world cuming tew

>I cam easily probe
>cam easily probe
>easily probe
>probe

>AYYYYYYY LMAOI!

>>670425352
You didn't had your 9 yearl old sister stolen, raped and then found her body on the field.

You were good.

>>670425313
>All it actually did was allow insurers RAISE AUTO INSURANCE RATES BY 7000 percent in ten years

Sounds like the free market failed and conspired to use their newfound position to screw over their consumers.

>>670425263

Nothing will be submitted, you fuckwit. The President does not write legislation.

>>670424126
>The government taking over the insurance aspect will also give it better leverage to force pharmaceutical companies to offer lower prices for drugs.

rofl look at the naivety on this kid

the government... paying less for something. thats a hoot!

every single thing the government runs in regards to money is woefully inefficient. they pay 3x to 4x as much for products as any non-government entity does. i honestly have no idea why, i suspect vendors do it because they can, but yea if you expect anything the govt is in charge of to run well or cut costs you're delusional

and fyi this does not mean that i agree with our current healthcare situation by any means. it was fucked up, obama and the "we have to pass it to see whats in it" democrats fucked it up even worse so we're definitely in a shitty spot with it but putting the government in charge of even more of it is never, ever, in a million fucking years going to help anything

>>670416556
i love you

>>670424126
>Some insurance companies will survive. Most of the shittier ones will be forced to drastically restructure or go bankrupt.

If health care is nationalized the bailout (or payout depending on how you view it) would be the LARGEST of all time. It would more than likely lead to the mother of all depressions permabears have been fearing for eternity.

>Yes, this is one of the biggest and growing drains on the federal budget. The people on, and soon to be on it, are the ones who have let it get so decrepit.

You don't understand the issue with Social Security but I will excuse you because you are a bernbot.

>It's bullshit and needs to stop.
So, yes, you need enforcement of the corruption when it comes to laying out the paperwork to fix the infrastructure. You also eventually need to actually lay the fucking infrastructure itself. Something Congress has been sorely, pathetically lax about in the past 20 years.

Where to start with this.

You essentially want to destroy what is left of Federalism and replace it with a Unitary state. Do you have any idea of how bad of an idea this is? The corruption wouldn't go away, it would just scale up in the worst way possible. The United States would not survive a transition away from the current structure so drastic.

By the way, have you ever considered that maybe the infrastructure we have already built might not have been such a great idea? All it seems to do is produce more and more suburban sprawl and generally bad living conditions.

>In fact, they'd be no longer needed for public institutions.
The interest the government makes on those is a rather pathetic trickle over a very long period of time compared to other income.

The cost of administering those programs is far greater than what the government makes. The problem is that Bernie wants to hand out a gibmedats to Teachers and Academia.

>If they want to participate in the world's largest economy they won't.

I hear a sucking sound.

low qual bait

>>670425654
because that never happens in murrika

>>670425654
Poverty isn't the same as crime.

While tragic, that has no direct relation to poverty, it happens to rich people too, they just find the bodies in basements and sewers.

>>670425674
But it still needs to be approved by the President, why would he approve something hes against? Oo yea he wouldn't fag.

>>670409771
>It's all emotional anyway.
Actually there is such a thing as economics and reality.

>>670425944
>thinks that crime is unrelated to poverty

And this is how everyone knows your crackhead mom dropped you on your head repeatedly.

>>670425342

The business of business is business.

Had not the corrupt and criminally infested labor unions forced big business to cave in to their demands for insanely high wages, massive benefit and retirement packages and had not the US government, colluding with those unions, not foisted upon big business huge restrictions, levies, taxes, fines, tarifs and tons of other burdens then big business would have had no need to move jobs and factories out of country just to keep product prices low enough to compete with the rest of the world.

>Lrn2business.

>>670424126
>The worst part about it, this is mostly handled by local and state governments who allow contractors to make one, low-balled bid and then re-bid when they get the contract for a higher amount.

this doesn't happen

i bid state jobs every single day at work and have never seen this happen in 12 years of doing it. the bid guidelines you have to sign are very specific and if you bid a job and forgot (or intentionally didnt put) a couple of hundred thousand dollars worth of parts on there and you don't realize it until after the bid has been awarded you either forfeit the bid or you provide the services outlined in the bid specs and pick up the tab yourself. or you can submit a change order and anything state funded just laughs at that and sends a lawyer with a copy of said bid specs to show you exactly what you are to provide, no questions asked

>>670421917
how is this better?

>>670426126
I said crime isn't poverty, not that they are unrelated.

Poverty can lead to crime sure, but crime doesn't only occur in places with poverty.

Fucking read, jackass.

>>670426166
So, we should return to Victorian labor practices? Back to 12 hour work days for 2 dollars an hour, and l10 year olds working coal mines? Because that is what the progressive movement and labor unions fought for (originally, modern unions are a different story).

>>670426068
>reality
The reality is that the Democrat base is almost exactly the same voter block as it was 4 years ago. Republican base is the same. You honestly don't believe that the party loyal base on either side of the aisle is wracking their brains over "economics", do you?

>>670426665
sorry, I meant fought against. grammar error

Bernie's not a businessman. In fact, he doen't know fuck all about how a business works.

Bernie's a fucking communist who thinks that the way to solve all problems is to throw money at it. History shows this has never worked and has, in fact destroyed countries. (The economic then political collapse of the USSR is an excellent example.)

Donald Trump, on the other hand, not only understands business but is, himself, a wonderfully successful business man. He knows how business works. He knows that America was built and thrives on business and he knows that's what's required to make America great again.

>Trump 2016!

>Anyone else is for losers.

South America is devastares by these kind of governments. Enough said

>>670427046
Copyswiped bro.

Thank you.

>>670425165
it's all relative
and we're talking about american politics, so we are talking about "american poor" when we say "poor" in this context

why are you even in here?

>>670426665

im not the guy you're replying to but seriously do you think being so fucking drastic like some emotional woman actually proves your point?

nobody is advocating slave labor for shit wages, but when automakers are forced by government backed unions to pay non-skilled assembly line workers 50 or 60 dollars an hour i think things have gone a little too far

>>670427186
>copyswiped
>Trump
>for people who just can't think for themselves

>>670427046
when trump wins, you'll see how hes just a shill faggot puppet of lobbyists who doesnt remotely have the interests of america at heart. america will become the laughing stock of the first world this time across the board, and the devastation to the us economy and the wellbeing of basically everyone in the country will dissapear. I guess its what we deserve for having so many undereducated faggots who would vote for such a degenerate. maybe after he wins americans will finally understand how fucked up their country truly is. hmmm... maybe this is a good thing. maybe people need to be fucked up the ass to understand how shit their country is. maybe afterwards we can rebuild... ya know what fuggit TRUMP 2016 MOTHERFUCKERS WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>670427551
I'm not exaggerating. Workers in Africa and Asia, who thanks to free trade agreements American workers now compete directly with, work in conditions not so different than these today. THAT is why this nations economy is collapsing and jobs are going overseas, never to return. And both parties are complicit.

>>670424529
Go to bed josh

>>670422898
>Goes against Sanders
>Automatically thinks they support Trump
Maybe you're the stupid one here.

protip: everyone here is a retarded faggot who doesnt know the first thing about politics. if you listen to anything anyone here says about politics, you are just as retarded as they. none of you have any credibility, and frankly should either kill yourselves or move to some other site to bitch about your poorly understood politics

>>670426721
I voted D for the past two elections
I have since started caring more about money
I'll vote for Trump or Cruz over any of the D candidates

>>670427695
oh shit yeah nigga thats what im sayin fuck them smart people and there facts and discussion and shit you just tell it like it is

>>670423627
read my first post faggot, I said Im a poor fag.
my goal is to become wealthy. Im starting from a poor family, in a poor area, with mild autism.
The mild autism is the kind that makes me smart in a select few areas. my goal is to use this to my advantage and pursue a career in one of these fields, ultimately opening my own business.
the goal of a business it to become profitable.
if I manage to make it to my life goal and then I get told I have to give the rejects that have made my life hell allot of my money, I will leave this country and go somewhere else that doesnt have a robbing delusion.

>>670426665

First, thanks for twisting my words horribly in a marvelous example of Demo-spin. Noting like a good demonization to make your opponant look bad, right?

So, without resorting to the same slimeball tactics you just used (because I'm better than that) let me put it to you this way:

We need to rebuild our manufacturing capacity and infrastructure, return to being a nation of manufacturers and producers, not a nation of buyers.

NO ONE and I mean NO ONE needs fifteen dollars an hour for bottom-tier level jobs!

>I'll ask you this: knowing how lazy, sloppy and careless kids are these days, would YOU pay one fifteen dollars an hour to mow your lawn?

No, I didn't think you would.

Also, we need a massive and rapid development and deployment of new, effective and CHEAP alternative energy sources.

If we put the same energy and resolve that we put into the 1960s space program into quickly producing cheap alternative energy it could all be done and in place within ten years, thus replacing oil and gas for our energy needs.

If that were done then prices on all consumer items would plummet to below 1960s price index levels, thus making everything incredibly inexpensive, again.

With inexpensive energy it would then not only be viable but quite practical for the US to build, open and run all kinds of factories again which would put Americans back in jobs that would pay well enough to provide those workers with comfortable lives.

Imagine being able to go to the grocery store and buy an entire week's worth of groceries for twenty bucks!

Imagine being able to buy a brand new car for 2000 dollars instead of 20,000.

Or a home for, say eight thousand dollars instead of 150,000.

>That is exactly how it used to be when energy was cheap, plentiful and inexpensive!

Back in the 1960s workers made less than 1/4 of what they make in wages, now, yet could buy TWICE AS MUCH as they can now!

THINK ABOUT THAT!

>Now, wouldn't you LIKE to live in an America like THAT?

>>670427695
This may seem edgy

Either he is good, and shit turns out well, or he fucks up, destroys the country to where anarchy takes over/war war war war. That's why I want him in office.

So I can either continue with the country being a country, or die while the US collapses/run around doing criminal shit

>>670427046

trump is an idiot but he is a successful idiot, no doubt

if the economy is your #1 concern in this election he really is the smartest choice. career politicians are trash and know fuck-all about how anything in the real world works for real working people

i dont think trump can relate with many ditch diggers but he at least understands how a business is supposed to work and we could go for a little bit of the government being run like a proper business instead of this "just spend whatever the fuck we want and borrow it from someone if we don't have it" shit that's been going on for 20 years

the only redeeming quality that Trump has is the same quality that any successful person has - he knows how to delegate and pick the right person for the right job

all in all the president himself holds very little power but if he appoints the proper people to the proper positions shit will get done

which is where him not owing anyone anything is a huge selling point for the pragmatic thinker

unlike the up-jumped whore-spawned trash we have in the white house now who got in with a laundry list of favors to pay back so appointing the right person for the job was never priority, it was just appointing whoever he was told to appoint

for all of trumps gaffes, at least he will never be anyones puppet

>>670409436
because your retarted. I cant argue with your level of stupidity because you have more experience. when you realize the democrats hold back society and progress, then youll be outta college lol

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>>670416716

I don't know and it doesn't really matter who said this. Apparently it's not the guy in the meme but the message still stands.

Everyone thinks they can become a millionaire. Good luck making it to the 1% when the odds are stacked against you. If you were to actually make it, paying some of it forward would be the decent thing to do. Instead you want to be able to step on the poor just like the wealthy are already doing to you.

>>670428076
and somewhere there's an anecdotal R who turned D, the base is still the base
establishment votes and it flushes the bullshit out of the system, every time.

>>670428271
case and point why america hasnt revolted yet. poor fags thinking they're future millionaires instead of just poor fags.

>>670428271
>somewhere else that doesnt have a robbing delusion.
fucking spellcheck, "robbinhood delusion"

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>>670409436
>I honestly strongly support Bernie Sanders
Doesn't matter now since he's basically out. Hillary already won

> don't see why he wouldn't do well in office.
Because I don't socialism and free shit would be good for our economy XD. That picture is too idealistic and promised things like this from a president almost NEVER come to fruition.

He also cannot be a good president if he would probably die from old age a couple months into his term. At this point, you're either a Hillary shill or a Trump supporter. Take your pick

>>670428290
Yeah, I would, but how do we do that anon? What about all the money we're printing off, lowering the value of our dollar?

What about our growing debts?

How would we fund these new energy source research?

How could we implement those power sources if we do discover them?

How do we undo the thought process of an entire country, to fix it?

>>670422050
>alot

>>670422062
well necesarily "getting rid of bad cops" isnt a bad thing, but the basis used to determine good from bad would be ridiculous

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>>670416556

Old bearded person, a rabbit, a hot woman dressed as a fairy and a politician that would actually make America a better place? I can't decide who I trust more now, kids or Trumpvoters who vote against their own wellbeing. Weird...

>>670428748
Are you retarded or something?
I said I'm in college for a stem field and plan to open a business. Nowhere did I say "future millionaire". I said I plan to be successful in life.

This is why your shitty eurocuck country still isnt on the map.

>>670428327
stop converting me you cunt

>>670429032
What if I make money off youtube?

Do I owe money to the next inventor of the internet?

>>670422062
She wants to fight climate change with automotive emissions?
That's pretty retarded.
Unless... It is the person who made this that is retarded, surely that can't be.

>>670428631
(what I was thinking at first)
in general younger people are D and older are R so the D->R conversion would be higher
(now thinking)
old R people die and young people turning 18 are new D's so R->D happens too

yeah you have a point, but environmental changes have to sway that and I think people are annoyed with Obama, regardless if legitimate

>>670429275
Hey, it's the original reason I planed to vote trump.
He either does good and we keep going.
Or he flops and crazy shit happens.

>Noone thinks trump will be a "normal" president (Does nothing except be a figure head.)

>>670429032
Elizabeth Warren is spot on. Hopefully will become Sanders VP.

>>670428290
First of all, I'm not a democrat. In fact, I think Clinton and Obama are just as much to blame as the Republicans, after all Clinton passed NAFTA and Obama is passing TPP (both with Republican support).

My point was only that these unions are the reason why we don't have working conditions like they did in the Victorian era. That's simply a historical fact. And its these free trade agreements that allow these manufacturing jobs to move to places like China and Africa, etc. where you still have these working conditions. Which is why, unless you go back to these 19th century working conditions, these manufacturing jobs will NEVER EVER come back to this country unless you give companies some other sort of incentive to do so.

>>670429560
If you seriously think that is all the president does, you need to go back to 7th grade.

>>670429560
im drunk and somehow this seems to make some kind of sense. im started to feel better about the prospect of having this degenerate in office. not that ill vote for him, but still, at least i can sleep with a little hope if he wins

>>670428469
>Instead you want to be able to step on the poor just like the wealthy are already doing to you.
No, I want to buy a bunch of land in the country, and build a nice house and a workshop bunker so that I can live in peace away from civilization.
society has cause me nothing but greif. Im not going to be suicidal about it, but I do have the right to opt out of civilization.

>>670428469
>>670429847
I do like that quote though.

>>670429032

fuck yes, communism!

>>670429308

You still are provided a safe environment to make money off youtube by living in the U.S. Try making your youtube videos in Syria and see how well that works out for you. That's why everyone pays some form of tax for making money in America. We all benefit from the government somehow, some more than others.

>>670419291
>welfare recipient to senator and POTUS hopeful
If anything this makes the case for welfare

>>670428290
>NO ONE and I mean NO ONE needs fifteen dollars an hour for bottom-tier level jobs!

The problem is, post college/university, unless you have someone to nepotism you into a good job, your options are bottom-tier level jobs and unpaid internships.

You don't have experience. Nobody will hire you without experience, and they certainly aren't going to give you experience for free.

Now how do you suppose you feed and provide shelter to yourself on bottom-tier wages or free internships, while attempting to pay off your colossal student loans?

>>670425165
There are places in america with no running water or electricity.

>>670410488
Crony capitalism is working fucking great right?!? It's awesome that corporations essentially own congress and get massive tax cuts and subsidies, putting the burden on the crumbling middle class.

>>670429769
I'm young, so all the presidents I've seen, I've been told by everyone that their shit. Think about it. Since the time of George Bush (The son) Everyone has bashed the president, called them idiots, said they arn't doing the right thing.

You gotta imagine for me, a 20yo growing up and hearing all this as a child, makes me think the president doesn't do anything important.

Sure I know the president is important for checks and balances, and he's not a cure all problems person. But fuck, it's the older generations complaints that led up to the young ones just wanting hand outs and quick fixes.

>>670428290
As for your wages argument, well, first there's the obvious part you're leaving out: inflation. When adjusted for inflation, our wages today are actually less than they were in 1960s.

But, I don't think you can turn back the clock to back then anyways. We don't live in the world of the 1960s, we live in the year 2016, and the year 2016 is totally different. Besides globalization, which I've mentioned, you have to also remember that Europe was still recovering from WW2, when the rest of the 1st world was pretty much destroyed, which was part of the reason why America dominated so much economically back then, while still being able to afford good wages and worker benefits and all of our new deal era social programs. Our economy was just that good.

>>670429032
by that logic everyone contributed to 9/11 and noone is more responsible than pilot schools and boing.

society did everything from puting mercury in vaccines, to floride in the water.

society provided a hostile environment for me when I was in the womb resulting in wires in my head getting crossed and me living a life alone but trapped in the body of a social being.

Im willing to call it even if I make it.
Ill use my ability to comprehend math and think of ways to do shit, make my money, and live my life. I own nobody anything.