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Sup /b/,

Is enlisting in the military a good life decision?
Discuss.
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>>670384597
totes
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For niggers and other subhumans, maybe.
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Not if you want sand nigger dick in your headless neck.
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Get paid to hate your life and free college.
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>>670384597
shut up and bring me more oil
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>>670385087
>Get paid to hate your life and free college.
>>670384993
>Not if you want sand nigger dick in your headless neck.
>>670384938
>For niggers and other subhumans, maybe.
>>670384717
>>>670384597 (OP) (You)
>totes

Now have any of you bad any experience in the military or are you just saying that cuz of shit you read on 4chan?
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>>670385489

I've seen some shit.
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>>670384597
It's not bad. You spend a lot of time waiting for guidance, if you ever get any at all. Lots of stupid taskings come down IE: "You're going to spend two weeks mowing grass around post." Deployments can be pretty tough depending on where you get sent but you get a lot out of it. They can be pretty awesome too depending on what your job is. Kuwait is not a deployment. Work is usually simple bullshit and not very engaging. Pay is pretty garbage unless you're deployed but if you live in the barracks and don't have much in the way of bills to pay you'll be making bank.
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>>670385489
>You need experience to know about something
SJW detected
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If you like suicide
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>>670384597
> military
> good life
pic one
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>>670385489
my best friend in middle school's dad killed himself over the shit he went through in Nam.

One of my friends died in Iraq.

Streets around here are littered with broken vets.
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I knew a simple soldier boy
Who grinned at life in empty joy,
Slept soundly through the lonesome dark,
And whistled early with the lark.

In winter trenches, cowed and glum,
With crumps and lice and lack of rum,
He put a bullet through his brain.
No one spoke of him again.

You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when soldier lads march by,
Sneak home and pray you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
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>>670384597
its bad enough being a pawn as a citizen in the game of life why would you make yourself a tool to be used in a game of risk
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>>670385489

The only soldiers I "know" are the ones whose graves I take my dogs to shit on.

I thought if you were a soldier they buried you in a soldier cemetery, some of the stupid cucks who got BTFO by goat blowers for jew-boy amusement are buried in my local normal people's cemetery. That shouldn't be allowed, who would want to bury a family member in the same space as those animals?
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>>670384597
I've been in 14 years. It was great in my youth, but the deployments have broken me. I make 109K annually, before taxes, which makes my family comfortable. I'm probably going to finish my 20 in the active guard / reserve.
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>>670385489
Neither. I just don't with the methods they use
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If you go in with no direction you're gonna have a bad time. If you're just joining because you're not sure what to do with your life, you're going to hate it.
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BM3 reporting the military is alright when you start off you basically get treated like a 5 year old and get shit on you can be 30 years old it doesn't matter but once you pick up rank you don't get treated like a 5 year old that much but you deal with a lot of bullshit, I mostly deal with fucking idiots and common sense apparently doesn't exist either so if you want to join go ahead but be ready to deal with a lot of shit.
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Take this from a guy who was going no where and joined the AF.

Yes. The benefits are awesome, and now that i have the G.I. Bill I can finally get my life on the right track.

If you aren't doing anything in your life then you should totally join. Whether you make it a career or just do your 4/6 to get your education benefits and deuce out, it will definitely put your life on track. I got to go to Korea for my first base, and spent 2 years in Italy and that shit was awesome.

However! the people you will come across and work for will make you hate your life. If you can put up with 4/6 years of bullshit then you will be alright. It's mostly little shit, but its ALL of the little shit.

Good luck with your decision.
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>>670384597
Join a merc group (academi, dyncorp etc) or the french foreign legion... Better pay pretty much same shit maybe better
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>>670384597
if you stay in long enough, you can retire and draw pension pretty young. even if you don't you get free healthcare for life, and military experience looks good on job applications. the downside is potentially harmfuldying and grunt work unless you join as an officer
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>>670387187
Seen any combat?
Where have you been deployed?
How frequently?
MOS?
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>>670387347
I'm army, so I don't know what a BM, but it sounds like navy faggotry. Doesn't matter. OP, he's pretty on the spot. To be fair, though, you deal with idiots and bullshit regardless of which job you choose or fall in to.
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>>670384597
>Is enlisting in the military a good life decision?
only if signing your life over to a cult is your only way of escaping a worst cult
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>>670387784
I've been in about a dozen engagements
I've been in Baghdad for two different deployments and Afghanistan once (no contact)
I'm a 35D, intelligence officer
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>>670387874
>a worst
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>>670387347
>boatswains m8
>not choosing rooty tooty gunners m8
Kek like you dont even wanna be a SEAL
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>>670387974
pic related. Doing an AK range with my romanian bros
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>>670388005
I assume spelling Nazis should feel right at home in the military.
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>>670387815
CG I mostly drive 47s or 25s and save dumb people you wouldn't believe how fucking stupid these people are out on the water, they run out of gas, kill their friend, crash into another boat, or light themselves on fire. FML
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>>670387974
What were the engagements like? What were you feeling? How did it start? What did you think afterwards? How was your unit? Do you have any accolades?
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>>670388241
Fuck yeah, AKs
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>>670387395
Ayye AF too. My friend is leaving me for Aviano :( Which base did you go in Kr? I'm chilling stateside west coast for while.
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>>670388353
Ah, that's cool bro. I looked into USCG for a bit. Looks awesome.
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>>670384597
Only if you like gay sex and getting shot at.
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>>670388013
No I'm to lazy for that
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how is going into the air force to pay for med school? is it worth it? im kind of out of options with money, and i heard you can get into better schools because they need to meet a military limit or some shit.
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>>670384597
Current USAF-fag here. Do NOT join the military. If you make a good slave and don't think for yourself then go join the military. The people who think are punished severely so if you don't like leaving at the end of the duty day, sacrificing your freetime for bullshit, trainings, commanders calls(useless 2 hour meetings where they repeat the same nonsense), and being treated like a child no matter what age but if you are under Sgt then you are a child and cant make your own decisions. /endrant

I'm tired of the fucking military please just let me out holy fucking shit.
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I wonder if you can shitpost on 4chan while in the military
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>>670388359
I just wanted to see everything at once--absorb everything around me--and know where my other soldiers were so I could narrow my range fan. They mostly start with the enemy. They're ambush-centric, because they know our rules of engagement. Afterward, I just wanted to kill everyone in that stupid fucking country. My units were good in Iraq, and I have a bronze star and a meritorious service metal
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>>670388423
I was at Aviano, It was totally awesome. Your friend will love it if he's into out doors type things. Their internet is shit, but like literally the base is 5 minutes from the base of the Alps.

The food is absolutely amazing/a little expensive but cola is pretty good too.

I was an Ammo troop, any idea what he is? Ammo can be kinda shitty depending on the shop.
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Currently in the army. Thought it would be a neat life experience. It fucking sucks, drink every day, smoke and dip, body constantly in pain, emotionally and physically exhausted. Fucking retards are in charge of you. I honestly can't stand it. Don't do it.
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>>670388682
I'm doing it right now.
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>>670387347
>the military is alright
really. elaborate, please
>when you start off you basically get treated like a 5 year old and get shit on
>once you pick up rank you don't get treated like a 5 year old that much
>but you deal with a lot of bullshit
>I mostly deal with fucking idiots and common sense apparently doesn't exist
so, how exactly is it "alright"?
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Are you ready to die for Israel?
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>>670384597
Depends OP. What are your other options?

If you got shit, except' fro u momma's mobile home...you get my drift,

Sure, then go. But go to learn some skills, HARD skills. If you're holding a rifle all day long, you're doing it wrong. And "they" are using you as cannon fodder.

That said, I did live on an Air Force base in Germany once. It can be a very plesent life. Fullfulling one, but again, skills. Think HARD SKILLS.
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>>670387784
Am I legally considered a veteran if I just get a job in accounting or IT? Or some other desk job?
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>>670388839
E4 detected
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>>670388461
Yeah CG is pretty cool ATON and Bouy Tender are where it's at I was on a 378 when I got out of boot it was pretty cool mostly just deal with drug runners it was cool, stations are ok but would of love to go to ATON Kodiak
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>>670388634
They will pay for everything just know for the medical field other than technicians really your need to go in through Officer Training School(OTS) for a lot of the better med field jobs. If you try for one enlisted you may get something good all depends on your scores and what comes down in that particular listing if you are trying to leave immediately. You can wait list for jobs, meds do tend to take a while longer but they are getting more med into the force.

>>670388640
Your life/job is what you make it. All I'm saying. Also USAF.
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>>670386785
well put
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>>670389187
Totally this, Your job is totally what you make it. I personally had a lot of fun with my job, I still hated it, but it definitely could'a been worse.
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>>670388815
Exactly as I hear from people! Ugh a bit jealous. We're 1C3's going in to work all day everyday
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>>670389558
I'm third from left on the firing line. It was a good day. I'll keep shit posting.
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>>670389558
>>670389662
Fourth from left. didn't see the first AK sticking out from the romanian soldier's face.
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Any of you in Fort Campbell?
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>>670389886
Nope. Currently at Sill. Probably the worst post I've been to. Family loves it here, though.
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Join the Air Force and go into a specialty that does not involve getting shot at or shot down.

Get out in four years and get a decent job in a related field, or get paid to finish college.

Anything else is stupid.
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>>670384597
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
>it had to be posted sometime; i just sacrificed myself.
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>>670389187
You try dealing with inpatient psychiatric care for years whilst being used and abused in every which way possible, every menial task, every event you don't give a shit about, long hours of bullshit and nonsense to come home with a meager paycheck. I can't wait until I'm out so I can go tell people who are fucking stupid or running their mouth to go fuck themselves because in the military you can get treated like shit but oh the second you say someone's unreasonable it's paperwork. You even get paperwork for missing a dental appointment for christ sake. Military is shit OP you'll look back fondly on your civ life and wish you would've done something constructive like college.
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>>670389982
I'm so sorry... I'd honestly chose death over Sill. Lawton is so boring and the weather is shit.
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I did one deployment in Mosul, Iraq. Been hit by 1 IED and shot in the back of my vest. Too many firefights to count.

I got to live in Germany for 3 1/2 years. Traveled all over Europe while there. I also got to travel all over Africa for work, while stationed in Germany. I visited DC a few times, including the pentagon.
They sent me to badass driving and advanced shooters courses.

Now I'm chilling using my Post 911 GI Bill, Paid tuition, Fasfa, 60% disability and Workstudy. Clearing around $50K tax free. While going to college.

I've seen more and lived more than 99% of people.
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>>670384597
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8rbHwMXMT8
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>>670390244
Lol well that's the med field for you anyway. I only told him what he asked about. I mean it's hard to get paperwork if you stay on your shit tbh.
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>>670389481
Ouch, sorry bro, on the bright side your friend will get to hang out with the Italian's at the post too they are super chill. Italian regs are nonexistent they have big beards and pretty much wear whatever they want, at least from what i've seen.
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>>670390389
firefight stories please or no?
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>>670390291
Yeah. My previous BDE CDR thought he was doing me a favor by hooking me up with a primary staff job. He didn't tell me it was in Sill until the last minute. I guess he hated me.
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>>670390642
I miss having my beard, mustache just don't cut it. Thanks for the sentiment, just got off a 12 and I haven't slept in 34 hours. Lovely times
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>>670384597
No.
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"Look. You think how stupid people are most of the time. Old men drink. Women at a village fair. Boys throwing stones at birds. Life. The foolishness and the vanity, the selfishness and the waste. The pettiness, the silliness. You think in war it must be different. Must be better. With death around the corner, men united against hardship, the cunning of the enemy, people must think harder, faster, be...better. Be heroic.

Only it's just the same. In fact do you know, because of all that pressure, and worry, and fear, it's worse. There aren't many men who think clearest when the stakes are highest. So people are even stupider in war than the rest of the time. Thinking about how they'll dodge the blame, or grab the glory, or save their skins, rather than about what will actually work. There's no job that forgives stupidity more than soldiering. No job that encourages it more.”
― Joe Abercrombie, The Heroes
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>>670390831
Not that guy, but I'll tell you when I was most scared during an engagement.
>be me, intel lieutenantfag, 2004
>in Baghdad, flying raven UAV from roof of hotel
>No one mentioned there was a huge soccer match
>Iraqis win soccer
>gay.dll
>they all pull AKs out of closet, go outside, and start shooting.
>Thousands of tracer rounds fill the air.
>ohshitniggerwhatareyoudoing.png
>rounds that go up must come down
>people on upper floor balconies see me standing up to find out what the fuck is going on.
>dozens of AK-47s start leveling their fire to the top of the hotel
>fucking
>chaos
>drop down behind HVAC shit and pray to God
>decide to run for the access hatch
>bullets coming from all fucking angles
>fall through hatch
>sprain both ankles
>scramble away from hatch opening
>a few bullets fall in
>pissed myself a little bit.
MFW I made it out okay
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>>670390831
One time we were in the mountains and these guys started shooting at us. We all got behind cover and started shooting at them. we did this for like 12 hours. it was pretty badass
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If you want the easiest military route, join the air force. I'm an f-15 engine mechanic and yeah some days are harder than others, but the deployments are easy (only 6 months) and we don't go anywhere harsh. I'm stationed stateside and our deployments are mainly in UAE. The asvab is easy af and if you get above a 70, you pretty much have any choice of job you want.
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>>670385952

I, as well...have seen some shit
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Probably not, but you make your own decisions anon
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>>670384597
It's honestly what you want to make of it. Make it a career, and you're golden. If you're only enlisting for 4-6 years, you have to make the most out of it, to make sure you get the most when you get out. Go to classes, work on a degree while you're in. Don't do what I did and enlist because I drank too much in college, and then end up stagnating as a SPC, never actively seeking a promotion. I'm out now, and not a damn thing to show for it but a bad back, a fucked up knee, and a shoulder that'll never be right again.
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how hard is it to get a job as a done operator? and how supervised is it? could I bring my gameboy for the holding patterns, etc
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>>670392796
Not Airfag, but no, I've been in the CAOC a few times, and the drone pilots are not allowed to fuck around that much, unless they were just acting that way while we were watching.
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>>670388241
>>670388378
pick up that fuckin brass your mom isnt cleaning this fucking range for you shitbag
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>>670391710
haha, sounds about right

>be me, ages ago
>get conscripted into european army
>never saw war
>but some people still died from stupid shit like this
>many more got maimed
the military is mainly a lot of retardation. the only people who really thrive there are the weak-willed unable to make decisions for themselves in the real world.
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They had me picking up body parts. Not too bad. Would not reccomend. Marinefag if you want to join, go airforce. All of my friends have at least talked about or attempted suicide once
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>>670392796
You most likely need a Bachelors in the correlating field, in the AF you need one to become a Pilot so I would imagine its the same stipulations. However, some jobs are extremely competitive like OSI. I had a friend who was literally a brain and extremely fit, and nothing but perfect EPRS and numerous awards and still get disqualified for it. I'm pretty sure drone operator would be similar.
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>>670393062
It's Afghanistan. Fuck picking up brass. It stays where it fucking falls.
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>>670388997
>the military is alright
>when you start off you basically get treated like a 5 year old and get shit on
>once you pick up rank you don't get treated like a 5 year old that much
>but you deal with a lot of bullshit
>I mostly deal with fucking idiots and common sense apparently doesn't exist

>>670393117
>They had me picking up body parts. >Not too bad.

dose standards
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>>670389886
Suh dude. Kentucky or Tennessee side?
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>>670393399
not in fucking Duke brigade specialist i said pick up that fucking brass or youll bear crawl all the way back to kentucky
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>>670392470
I wish I had a bad back and shit so I could get a pain script.
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>>670393736
Fuck you, COL Ostlund.
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I went to a Navy recruiter last month, got an 89 on the EST (practice ASVAB). I've always been a pretty together person, but I'm starting to lose direction and fall into substance abuse. Thinking about going for nuke, but idk if I could make it through.
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>in AIT right now for 25B
Basic was alright.
I heard the grass is greener on the Officer side.
>tfw gotta 5 year enlistment
>MOS is over strength
>EOD 35T or CID
Those are the ones that interest me..ill see what will happen down the road.
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>>670394769
Stay the fuck away from 33W / 35T. They're fucking worthless.
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Army O4fag back again. I'll say this last thing: no one leaves the Army a worse person than when they went in. You may hate it. You may do something horrible that gets you kicked out. Doesn't matter. You'll leave a better man than 90% of your civilian counterparts / peers. You'll have learned structure and discipline, even if you didn't adhere to it. This puts you miles ahead of civilian competition.
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>>670395313
Awwwwww shit..I heard 35T is just a 25B with a TS...
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>>670395935
Everything you would "fix" is proprietary, so the companies won't let you learn how to fix fucking anything, because they want those contract dollars to maintain the equipment.
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No it's not. Signingmy Option 40 11x contract soon and shipping after graduation.
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>>670395919
Unless you kill yourself or get PTSD, but whatevs
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>>670396157
>not knowing how to reply to people
>
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>>670396085
Holy shit. That fucking blows. What the fuck do 35Ts do most of the time then?
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