Not Scottish but I live in Dundee

Glasgow reporting in.

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Ayrfag here

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>>670380722

Ayr seems nice. Only been there once or twice.

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>>670381050

Fife here

>>670380426
evan pls

>>670381426

Oh god, whereabouts? Glasgowfag but been to Fife many times. I'm guessing Glenrothes?

>>670381659
Dunfermline

Irvine here

Pish

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>>670381001
Not the worst town. Bit dead these days but.

>>670380722

Aberdeen here

Englishman here

>>670382037
gtfo

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>>670381333

>>670380336

Dumfriesshire Reporting in.

Who's voting out of the EU here?

Falkirk here

>>670382269
Brexit = 2nd indyref
vote for brexit comrades

>>670381001

Ayr is nice. Love the beach and view over the Arran. Was there last year for the Airshow. Good times.

>>670381719
any win?

Any largs nudes?

>>670382531
Nope :(

>>670382036
We are gods

>>670382425

Yes to Brexit, no to second indyref, becuase I don't want to rejoin the EU.

Independence under the EU is not true independence.

Inverness here

Fuck Inverness

>>670382823
Sounds about right

Fucking bow down the King a glesga reporting in.

>>670382269
Support scottish independence

If that's not on the cards, I want the UK out of the EU.

Dont like that the SNP are basically telling me how to vote despite it not being a core issue, just because i support most other policies their party push. Scotland needs the EU, the UK doesnt. As long as Scotlands in the UK, it doesn't need the EU.

>>670382941
Exactly.

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What's Scotland opinion on NI/north of Ireland/Ulster etc. Specifically the people

Who wants chibbed? Ma wee blade hawns itching tae take aff a dial.

>>670380336
I live in a shitehole town called Whitburn. Don't know if anybody here has heard of it

>>670383414
fucking potata eating scum

>>670383414
Depends what side of the old firm you're on for a lot of people

I'm in an electronic rock band and are looking for small to midmid sized venues in glasgow. Any come to mind I should enquire about glasgheys?

>>670383414
i feel like this is a troll question. scotland is *intensely* divided on the issue.

>>670383698
>obviously a Proddy orange bastard

>>670383878
I didn't really think you cared all that much outside of Glasgow and the odd football match.

Hamilton reporting for booty

Shut the fuck up about politics your. Fag of your not Scottish nationalist.

Let's talk business niggers.

How do you make your Money?

>>670384179
Support worker for the mentally and physically ill. Aspergers, autism, etc.

>>670380722
Ayr here also.

>>670384360
Nice, my gf does that she loves it.

Love her tard wrangling stories...

Facking tell us your tard wrangling stories

>>670383924
Nope, am a tim

>>670383213

I'll never support independence for as long as the SNP are the only option. I HATE everything they stand for. They will ruin this country if they have control over important issues.

>>670383414

I love Norn Iron loyalists. You are what we should be... what we were before we became a land of effeminate socialists. NI folk have great outlook and attitude.

>>670384408
>>670380722

Just two? Poor showing fae Ayr tonight.

>>670384566
Thinks snp are the only nationalist party...

linwood fag here

who /glasgow/ here?

>>670384566
The idea of scottish independence is the SNP push it, then when independent, we can choose from various parties that will be run with scotlands interest in mind, as opposed to a london run branch of a london run party. The SNP are a necessary evil as they're the only pro independence party.

>>670384566
You sound like an absolute roaster

>>670383414

Loyalist here. Fuck the IRA!

>>670384360

Do you work in Daldorch House School or Falkland House School?

>>670384763
I am. Where abouts in Glasgow?

>>670385123
Mearns mate, yourself?

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>>670384939
Shoo shoo

>>670384763
Glasgow here

>>670385173

Same. Not the guy you were replying to though. Quite near the cross.

>>670384718

Only one that will get any votes... Becuase they pander to everyone.

>>670384890

Yeah what other parties. Are you one of these complete morons that thinks the SNP will just step aside after independence? Their proposed constitution was terrifying - it was just an abridged party manifesto. If that were signed into law, this country would be fucked.

>>670385173
I'm Newton Mearns too dude

>>670385328
what uni/college you at?

>>670384455

I'm too tired my man, but heres a quick one

>meet new aspie
>usually do a few hours with them before I become their guy
>he's super private about his room, its his safe space
>few weeks in he's having an episode in his room, have to go calm him down incase he hurts himself
>freaks out that I'm in his safe space, but calms down
>get him to show me around his room, see if it relaxes him
>has a chair absolutely clarted in yellow stains
>what you got there marc
>thats my happy chair
>he explains how he sits on the chair to masturbate, bloes his load on his stomach and then lets it drip down, where it dries, does so religiously
>sitting there like "wtf man"

Aspergers is a hell of an illness

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North Carolina
>but I'm still Scottish
>Pic related

>>670381588

Not Evan, sorry

>>670385532

Daldorch?

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Start firing in local nudes boys. Glasgow east end

>>670385427

City of Glasgow college man, you?

>>670385387
>Yeah what other parties. Are you one of these complete morons that thinks the SNP will just step aside after independence? Their proposed constitution was terrifying - it was just an abridged party manifesto. If that were signed into law, this country would be fucked.
Labour, conservative, lib dem, greens, etc. Pretty much all the parties involved in the Scottish parliament. Of course they wont step aside, but your votes will actually matter, instead of getting negated by english votes. The SNP will still have to be voted in at the following election, if people aren't happy with their performance, they can vote for other parties. Its not a difficult concept.

>>670385735

Nairn.

>>670385833
UWS Paisley Campus dude, what you studying?

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>>670384179
I work in Halfords. Pretty shit pay for the amount of work they expect you to do. Gonna try and get a better job in the summer.

>>670385997

Still owned by the NAS I see. Hopeless organisation.

by the way any Glasgow fags who knows a thing about fighting games e.g. Street Fighter, Smash, MKX. There's a tournament happening in town this saturday

>>670386299
Where? I'm keen on seeing the local Sm4sh talent

no /Edinburgh/ ?

>>670386153
uws paisley, mah niggah. different anon, what course? i'm chem eng

>>670386153

Journalism

>>670386424
POSH

GIT

>>670385624

Get fucked.

>>670385894

It is when they write the constitution, and all the other parties are the same left leaning cunts they are. Even our conservatives are run by a fat lesbian refugee lover.

>>670386534

far fae posh tbh just living here m80

>>670386536
You mean the constitution that would be voted in, debated and then changed appropriately?

There's a surprisingly lot of people in this thread from Newton Mearns.

>>670386404
Maxxp Gaming it's this venue on Duke street, look up Wildhearts: Fighting for charity on FB and you'll find the event

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>>670386470
Accounting mate, what year you in?

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fucking a glenrothes chick

>>670386860
Sweet. Cheers my man

>>670386814

Yeah, whereabouts you at?

Anyone got any good Facebook roasters?

>>670386814
We all divide according to our high schools

Who /eastwood/ here?

>>670387004
At the Mearns cross yourself?

>>670386933
Why do thick scots have just the most aesthetically pleasing pussies

Like goddamn, that little extra fat goes to all the right areas

>>670387097
I went to Hillpark

>>670387118

Literally a five minute walk from there.

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>>670386933
any other fife girls?

>>670387231
>>670387118
Go fuck. Really.

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>>670380722
Ayr here as well

>>670387277
Yeah fags

>>670387277

Yeah man, really. :P

>>670387277
Yeah went Tbank Primary then Hillpark and somehow living here now

>>670381001
>seems
fucking shithole

>>670387277

Go for it lads. Then neither of you will be virgins!

>>670386721

I mean the constitution taht was decicided during the last referendum, tentatively agreed to and would be voted into law upon Independence.

The one that goes on about equality and open and welcoming society that would have us fucking overrun with economic migrants exploiting our new week kneed socialist country run by women....

Among other items.

went to st pauls in pollok

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>>670387343
Cute.

Wanna hear a joke?

>Why is your tea shit in Scotland?

>Because it was deep fired and because all the food is shit all the time.

>>670385787
Care to share any glasgow details?

>>670386860
Maxxp sm4sh tournaments suck dick though, it's crazy cramped n smells like shit

>>670385833
City of Glasgow aswell

>>670386926
1st, i was gonna do accounting but i left it to late to change, wbu?

>>670388230
1st as well, we should totally hang out

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>Engfag here

When we leave the EU and that fat pig ask's for another independence referendum can you scots PLEASE get the bottle this time and vote to leave the UK PLEASE so we can save a FUCK ton of money and watch scotland fuck up and beg to rejoin.

>pic related
we hate your disgusting blood sausage on our english breakfast, fuck you savages!

>>670388101
they're not too bad I was at an SFV tournament which had like 25 people and it was pretty chill

>>670388192

What you studying?>>670388391

>>670388525

Didn't mean to tag that other anon btw

>>670388474
you make a very good argument...

>>670388525
women's studies

>>670388391
can do, do you have kik or something?

>>670389259

LOL. Going for a career in Scottish Politics then, or straight to work in the chippy?

Kirkcaldy reporting in

>>670389315

Fags.

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>>670380336

>>670389259

You better be fucking joking.

Dundee reporting in

>>670389539

This. How are Scots this retarded.

>FUCK THE ENGLISH
>END WESTMINSTER RULE
>YES TO INDEPENDENCE
>What? you want to leave the EU? but then who would make all our laws and give us money?
>FUCK YOU ENGLISH BASTARDS!

>>670382794
Hold on here. If you want independence you have to vote in.

Scotland has to vote the opposite of England to spark a second indyref.

Don't worry about being a member of the EU. We will negotiate and then have another referendum on entry. It is at that point we tell the EU to get fucked (unless) they shower is in free money and blowjobs of course.

>>670389908

>GO HOME YE ENGLISH BASTARDS!
>REFUGEES WELCOME!

>>670389315
I've not used it in ages though i'll just download it again

>>670389429
>>670389543
>falling for the bait

kek u scotts are gullible

Bathgate here
Any sluts?

Dunfermline here.

>>670389908
>>670390121
basically without the english scotland and its tiny population would crash and burn because all they know how to do is get drunk, get high, and be unemployed, and leech off the system.

i really want them to leave so we can all point and laugh.

>>670387536
Look as soon as Scotland was independent, there'd be a load of new parties including an actual right leaning one.

I expect they would pick up plenty votes as they would no longer be London Tories.

och aye the noo

>>670390131
fuck it, just add professortbag on snapchat. i'm going to bed.

>>670390121

>Scottish NATIONAL Party
>Wants more immigrants, welcomes illegals, puts "refugees" in small homogeneous towns
>Wants more socialism
>Wants to be part of European Super State
>Panders to Muslims, Homos and assorted minorities

There is nothing Scottish or Nationalist about the SNP.

Independance would ruin Scotland as a nation, and turn us into a bunch of faggy cucks like Sweden in less than a generation.

I'm not OK with this.

>>670390570
lol no what would happen is your country would go bankrupt as you have no money and nothing to export apart from haggis and whiskey.....this is why it costs england 50 million a day to subsidise you

>>670390817

News flash: that's what Cameron is doing with the U.K.

>>670389908
Because it's a fucking process. We have to break the union first. Then we have control over things such as membership of the EU.

It's you that is the retard if you can't see that.

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Got west Lothian nudes?
Email rohholbg at gmail.com

>>670390817
please do this...PLEASE

>>670390751
done

>>670390985
Citation needed for that utter arse gravy.

>>670390570

And what is this imaginary party called? The SNP will shite up this country and flood it with migrant who will vote left so they can stay in power - which is partially why they came to power pandering to Muslims for votes. You do not understand politics and are basing the futire of this country on "oh well there will be other parties once we are independent, it'll all be flowers and puppies and rainbows once Westminster is out of the way". Grow up.

>>670390998
nope that's what the EU is doing to britain, tony blair started it, just shows how uneducated scotts are, cameron tried to block the last batch of 20,000 but was overruled by EU laws/pressure and some dead turkish baby on a beach etc, the SNP are part of the socialist multiculturalism agenda that wants more shitskins in europe as cheep labor while we suffer with a poor minimum wage because the shitskins are happy to take it.

>>670391381
Do you ever leave Scotland?

Have you been to any major city in England?

They are overrun with immigrants thanks to Westminster control.

It is coming to Scotland sooner or later. I'd rather have the means to do something about it, than a bunch of home countries wankers who don't give a fuck.

>>670391769
The SNP are a vehicle. The wheels will fall off once Scotland is independent.

Most people only vote for them as a means to an end

>>670391004

If you like what the EU stands for there in no arguing with you. It is you, and your kind that will destroy Scotland for all time. Take a look at how Europe is doing - if that is a future you would prefer, you are an idiot.

I'll take a strong Scotland as an important part of the United Kingdom, over a small, cucked, socialist European state any day.

If you believe independence means anything when as a full EU member you are deluded.

>>670383553
About 20 mins away mate

>>670391793

No they are full of immigrants due to a Left wing Labour government. The SNP are every bit as weak on immigrant, and pro migrant as Labour ever was. If the SNP control immigration to Scotland, we are FUCKED in less than a generation.

We have no right wing party, or voice of reason to stop this from happening, an as part of the EU, we will be open doors to thier equally suicidal policies.

Wake up.

>>670392217
But you can leave the EU. Do you not understand that?

>>670392548
More immigrants have come here under the Tories and I fucking hate Labour.

Scotland is fucked in less than a generation anyway. We can do something about it, but not if we stay in the UK and let London continue to make a cunt of it.

>>670391235
google it, basically scotland generate x and the uk government have to subsidise scotland hugely, hence why many scots chose to stay

>>670380336
No other nudes from the ayrshire area?

>>670392603

Eh? Obviously tat is what the next referendum is about. And something we NEED to do.

If you mean an independent Scotland can leave. That will never happen. Socialists are all pro EU. Every party in Scotland is pro-EU (even the Tory's), and frankly we would need the Euro bucks to stay afloat. So no, we would not be leaving, or voting to leave.

>>670392910

Only because we have no control to stop it while in the EU.

Seriously... please learn a bit more about the world before you vote.

sunny Greenock. Local nudes? heard a lassie in my year did a porn tape sucking off a fat guy

>>670392017
pretty much

>>670392548
>>670392910
>more immigrants have come under the torys

because we have been tied down under EU law, fact is when we leave (and we will cameron knows it) Boris will get elected and he is a crazy fuck and will send all the immigrants back home after the whole shit in syria is over down to the fact that we have no EU human rights bullshit stopping us.

the EU need the UK more than we need it and they are shitting themselves that when we leave the EU will fall apart and the socialist superstate dream will come crashing down

>>670387343
>>670380722
any of you know a girl called stephanie currie? in my class at uni

chubby but a ride with decent tits

>>670392975
I have googled it and you are another idiot that thinks the block grant is a subsidy.

Do you think no tax is collected in Scotland?

Here's news for you Scotland sends more money to Westminster than is received back in the block grant. No subsidy.

Don't spout off about stuff you know nothing about.

>>670393873
That last line, Tres ironic.

This thread got political real fast.

>>670393748

Here's hoping mate. I'm glad you get it. Its frustrating as fuck talking to SNP voters, they literally have scooped up the stupidest people in this country and convinced them to vote their way despite not understanding or supporting their policies. Its uncanny.

>>670393137
Scotland is fully self financing.

Self sufficient in oil, electricity generation, water, food.

Has an even balance of trade.

We do not need anyone's money to survive.

I can't believe that actual Scots are spouting this pish after all these facts were out there for our referendum.

Ignorance won the day.

>>670394092

Because we are teetering on the brink of something truly terrifying as a nation if we stay in the EU and leave the UK.

North England Thread

>>670393748

I think you are confusing EU migration with non EU migration.

Boris will not be able to send back existing EU migrants. He might be able to send back non EU migrants.

>>670393873
>brainwashed scott detected

lay off the whiskey buddy you do not make enough in tax, you think the oil is yours? think again its 1 just about dried up and it is also a part of a "special" uk zone not scotland, you delusional scotts think that if you leave you get to keep our pound...nope, get to keep scottish soldiers....nope they all said they want to stay in england, than be some new army under the SNP, you think you will get membership under nato and be protected? nope they already said you would not be eligible to join, you will have NO intelligence agency, and basically 0% protection from anyone that wants to invade you....i.e putin who would fucking love to and us or nato would not be in a place to prevent him.

seriously go educate yourself

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>>670385624
North Carolina Scot here as well sire

>>670390817
>sweden is a bad place to live

top kek stop hanging out on /pol/ so much

>wants more socialism
>wants to be part of the EU super state
these two contradictions are why the SNP are not socialist in the slightest. They use the word to appeal to ex-labour voters.

The EU is a neoliberal set of institutions, actual socialists oppose it

>>670394091
Only if you are ignorant of the truth.

Scots pay £500 per head more in tax, than they receive in public spending.

That is a fact and proves no subsidy exists.

>>670394365

Ignorance won the last election. Comon sense won the referendum.

EU is a security blanket, and worth billions to Scotland to stay in it.

Oil is not self sustaining - moron. Wind farms are the backup plan and are already destroying our landscape. They will never stop building them. Water I'll give you. Food, not so much we need trade for much of that. Trade within the EU is critical if we leave the UK. Ignorance sums you up completely.

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dundee

>>670394890

Have you been to Sweden? The tourist parts are nice...real parts not so much.

>>670394199
Who would you vote for instead?

The rest are complete lunatics.

>people actually thinking the UK will vote to leave

Top Kek.

It will be project fear volume two, which works even though it leaves a bitter taste in the mouth.

>>670394798
Go and read about unclos and you'll see what a fool you are.

Any Coatbridge/Airdrie in here

>>670395145
literally the same as anywhere else in the world then

there are rich parts of somalia where millionaires/ their ruling class live. Likewise there are impoversihed bits of Scandinavia etc even though they have the highest overall living standards

>>670394890

I've been to Sweden have you? Its unrecognizable. Norway is about to pass emergency provisions to leave the Geneva convention in the event that Sweden collapses and migrants head their way. It is THAT bad.

Everything about the SNP is Socialist. Take you neoliberal and shove it right up your arse.

>>670394199
thanks many people here in england understand this, but unfortunately we have a lot of stupid people here who just have no idea what is going on.

>>670394656
there were a lot of EU migrants who came here i agree like the polish etc BUT the ones who are undesirable like the muslims who come here and have NO intention of integrating and openly admit in the streets that they are "taking over" can be legally removed and they can do nothing about it, even germany are on about doing this once syria calms down.

we also have MANY illegal immigrants here too and once out of the EU can remove just as easily

>>670395029
Read what I wrote. I'll put it in simpler language for the hard if thinking.

Scotland produces more oil than Scotland consumes. More food, electricity, water than she consumes.

That is what self sufficiency means. Of course we can't grow oranges, but we trade our surplus produce for them.

The above means Scotland has no trade deficit with the world.

The UK on the other hand is not self sufficient in anything and runs £10bn minimum trade deficit per month deficit.

It's obvious that action needs to be taken against migrants. I think a full race war is imminent.

>>670395029
>destroying our landscape

fossil fuels are actively destroying the planet we live on, causing erratic weather, exhaust fumes causing cancer, will cause millions of more refugees in the next 40+ years etc

...yet you're moaning that you don't like how their necessary replacement looks on postcards

toppest of keks to you good sir

>>670394890
>this guy hasn't a clue

Sweden was the fucking testing ground to see what would happen to a country flooded with muslims now its FUCKED

Every EU country just about is socialist run, the SNP are socialist as fuck and knows if they ever get independence they will need muslims to boost the population and generate tax to compensate the money they would lose from the UK.

seriously open ur eyes kid.

>>670395177

This is my point, we have NO good option. All the parties are left of centre. If there were a sensible right wing party to counter the heavily socialist leanings in this country I might consider independence an option. But as it stands no fucking way. I LOVE Scotland. Independence with our currant parties would be the end of this country as we know it. It would be unrecognizable in a generation.

>>670395977
Add to that, that no cunt complained about the original windmills before we had hydrocarbons.

>>670395021
utter bullshit, part of them staying in the uk gave them huge tax relief we subsidise the fuck out of scotland

>>670395977

If it were legal to do so I would stab you in the face. Hippy faggot green voter detected.

>>670380336
Not exactly a Scot (family is nothing but Scots-Irish since 1700 though, Kellys and Thomas's on Mother's side, Scottish Henry on father's) how's the north side of the island these days?

Any room for a bitter yankee who can teach physics? I think I gotta get out of this country before Trump or Hilary Clinton take office and fuck us all.

>>670396141

This.

This guy gets it.

>>670396142
There will be no right of centre party until independence. Trust me, I believe Scotland needs such a party.

The Tories in Scotland at their last leadership contest had the chance to choose a guy that was going to split from the UK party. I reckon it would have been a success. Certainly when compared to how Ruth has got on.

>>670395370
>thinks he will still be protected by the un if independent

kek

>>670396346
No, you don't. Scotland pays a net subsidy to the UK and pretty much always had done.

On top of this we send 30000 of our best talent south every year subsidising the economy in the south to the detriment of Scotland.

>>670396694
>scotland has no army
>undefended
>spetsnaz roll in dine on whiskey and salmon

>>670396694
Unclos has been signed and ratified by the UK. They are bound by the UN.

It's not about protection.

>>670395579
Yes I have also been to Sweden, not that it even remotely proves anything.

Considering the scale of the refugee crisis, and how many eligible people have not been provided asylum etc, the Geneva convention is pretty much over anyway, Norway changing legislation about it is hardly important.

>privatising parts of the NHS
>wanting to be part of the EU
>not nationalising Scotrail or CalMac ferries when it is necessary and sensible to do so
>socialist

The SNP used to be called tartan tories for a good reason, the only people they could appeal to were rich cunts in Perth etc who switched from Tory to SNP to try and block Labour winning their seats.

Also the likes of senior party figures such as Fergus Ewing are pretty much indistinguishable from tories.

Claiming to be socialist is a good tactic for them, it doesn't mean they actually are though.

>stick neoliberal up your arse
are you honestly trying to say an EU dominated by Merkel/ the ECB etc isn't neoliberal?

>>670396626

Way, way to big a risk to assume we will one day have a right wing party and some common sense. Making this assumption when independence would mean reducing out military to nothing, opening our borders during the biggest invasion of illegal migrants from 3rd world Muslim countries the world has ever seen, and putting stock in an EU that could very realistically collapse is an insane gamble for "freedom" from the "tyrany" of Westminster at a time where being a part of the UK outside of the EU might actually save us from from what lies ahead in Europe.

>>670397038
Scotland has paid our share of the armed forces in taxation over the history of the UK.

On ending the UK, Scotland will be entitled to a fair distribution of military hardware and assets. Personnel would have a choice to make.

>>670396885
>30000 of our best talent south every year subsidising the economy in the south to the detriment of Scotland

People chose to leave because they have no career in scotland..its a shithole

>No, you don't. Scotland pays a net subsidy to the UK and pretty much always had done.

This has never been the case, its scottish delusion/pride when the uk agreed that scots would pay less tax etc in an effort to persuade scots to stay scots ended up paying a lot less tax than people in england do, scots get so many breaks...without us you will crash and burn because you produce fuck all and have a TINY population.

>>670397289
Might bring the operative word. The UK will never save Scotland.

The UK would sacrifice Scotland and had done so on countless occasions in the past.

An example related to immigration is when London send several thousand Somalis to Glasgow and houses then in the high rise flats.

The Somalis came to the UK to live in London. London didn't want them and sent them to Glasgow. Glasgow people didn't want them, the Somalis didn't want to be there, but London and Glasgow (Labour) city council did a deal and to Glasgow they came.

Thanks UK!

>>670397586
Personal taxation is identical.

Business rates are actually higher in Scotland.

You are wrong

scottish thread, not a protestant/catholic thread, get your shite out of scotland

>>670397239

>The SNP used to be called tartan tories

Have you read the white paper or the party manifesto? Their Tory days are long gone. Not a single policy, not ONE is in line with a conservative stance. So don't tell me it's all for show. It may have been a tactic to slide left, but world Socialism/Liberalism is the order of the day especially within Europe. You cannot argue the goal is a Socialist superstate. Arguing lables is pedantic semantics.

And teh fact Norway is concerned that Sweden will collapse and to turn them away, as neighbors and part of the Nordic union is pretty significant as to how close they are to total failure in thier multi-culti experiment. Everything about the SNP says we would base our immigration policies on theirs, and frankly that gives me nightmares.

>>670397586
Also Scotland is a shithole?

After 300 years of the UK it's a shithole. Seems like the UK isn't doing us any good then.

>>670396390
>doesn't want there to be literally tens of millions more refugees created by climate disasters
>wants to plan ahead further than 30 years in energy production
Basic common sense. Hardly extremist hippy bullshit lol

>look at this guy studying one of the biggest political issues of the 21st century and drawing the only logical conclusions based on scientific consensus
>what a faggot

Don't tell me, you've read a few studies funded by oil companies telling you climate change is a myth, top kek m8

>>670397095


>the uk
>uk
if scotland leaves they will not be part of the uk...they will be on their own lol and defenceless.

>>670397309
You will get VERY little weapons etc as it will be based on population size etc you may get a plane or two and a few thousand guns...and a small attack ship...and a sub...and a few land rovers but that's it...you wont have our souldiers...as most scots in the armed forces have clearly stated they would stay with the british armed forces and safety.

Good luck with intelligence.....if you are anything to go by scotland has none.

>>670380336
How the fuck do you get laid in Scotland? From what i've read on the internet, American girls are just easier (or im just fucking dumb).

>>670397856

I'll take "might" save us over "will" destroy us, which is what the SNP will do.

And those Somalis came under the Labour government if I'm not mistaken. I'm not defening English Tories, and Theresa May has been an utter failure as minster, but right here and right now they are a critical lesser of 2 evils.

>>670398000
>>670398196
guys seriously i REALLY hope you believe this and vote yes to leave, that's if you get the balls to this time, cant wait to see scotland turn into the new sweden while we send all the muslims your way.

>>670398660
this

>>670398660
scots are all idiots tbh

>>670398208

Tell me Hippy... Your eco-refugees, do you think they stand a better chance to come to our shores while we are in the EU, with an open door acceptance, and under a constitution written by bleeding heart leftist women in a country with little control over its own laws within an EU state, or outside of it, and protected by a strong and United Kingdom with control of its own borders?

As for energy. Wind farms are not the way forward. If it were not for eco warrior sissies like you we could have modern nuclear facilities to power this country cleanly and efficiently without destroying one of the the best things about this country - it's stunning landscape.

And yes, fuck your scientific consensus. You believe what you are told to believe.

>>670398074

>failure of the multi culti experiment
the Sweden Democrats are still a fringe party m8, at the most recent elections they elected a Red/ Green coalition. Hardly open revolt against multiculturalism lol.

Racism aside, we really do need more immingrants if we are still to have an NHS/ Pensions, as we don't have a high enough birth rate. This isn't a left wing conspiracy, this is the consensus of the IMF/ world bank etc.

The white paper was a load of shite, I have read most of it yes. I was a yes voter/ campaigner btw, so I know all the policies and slogans pretty well.

Of course they aren't the same as the tories, they wouldn't get elected if they were, but that in no way makes them socialist.

>conflates socialism and liberalism

this is the point where I give up, as you clearly have no clue. They are liberals, as are most Labour MPs and the pro-EU Tory MPs. At no point have I said they were not liberals- they clearly are. If you don't know the difference between socialism and liberalism then I cba typing anymore.

Good night x

>>670398320
All of which would actually be way more than is stationed here at present.

The UK doesn't actually defend Scotland any more. Putin had a warship come close couple of years ago and the UK had to scramble a ship from Portsmouth! Useless.

>>670399524
Just most of them. 55% as at Sept 2014.

To all the no fags in this thread, can you explain why Scotland is uniquely incapable of running it's own affairs in contravention of the other 200 or so sovereign states?

>>670399643
>not understanding that we don't need and soldiers in scotland due to trident and the nuclear subs we have stationed off your coast's protecting you
>not understanding the only thing that protects you is the first thing the SNP wants to remove....Trident.

The uk gets buzzed every now and then by aircraft from russia on a weekly basis usually supersonic bombers that could hold 30+ nukes...without the THREAT of retaliation I.E trident ..whats to stop him obliterating you or taking over?

NOTHING

>>670399786
good point

All i wanted was to join a thread and have a jolly old chat with some of my fellow Scots but thanks to people who think their opinion is the right and anything else is wrong this thread is now making scotland look like its full of over opinionated twats who cant put what they believe to one side in order to have conversation

>>670400783
Sorry dude, but just had to educate a few drunk/stoned scots

>>670399569
I'm not pro-EU in the slightest mate, so I don't know what you're talking about with the first bit. Read today's Morning Star editorial if you want an actual left wing argument for leaving the EU.

>control of borders
in practice very hard to achieve considering how big our coastline is. I don't see what difference EU membership would make to the people in the camps at Calais

>are not the way forward
>accounted for around 40% of Scottish electricity produced in 2015
I think you're wrong m8

>nuclear energy is clean
So nuclear waste doesn't exist? Uranium is infinitely available and safe?

>nuclear power doesn't destroy the landscape
are you serious? Have you ever been along to Largs/ Fairlie? hunterston nuclear power station completely ruins the view/ lanscape along that coast, as do the unsightly facilities needed for it to function. I live 30 minutes from it.

>fuck the scientific consensus
Top kek, tell us about how the earth is flat or how smoking doesn't cause cancer, all-mighty "red pilled" warrior

>>670399622

Woman or homosexual?

IMF and the world bank and many politicians only care about economic growth. What about national security and cultural preservation. None of them care about that. But we have to live in this country. Replacing our population with culturally alien people for the sake of economic growth is genocidal. Period.

yes birth rates are low in the civilized world. Promoting an increase in births (and strong families) would be the logical step instead of importing foreigners. But the goal is a subservient population within Socialist state and to do that destroying national identity is critical. You do not have to dig too deep to see many EU leaders and bureaucrats talk opening about breaking down national identity and integrating minorities into every countries populations.

As for getting hung up on the difference between liberalism and socialism, I'll conceded there is a political difference, but not a sociological one as far as the current state of affairs in concerned.

I hope you die in your sleep.

>>670400783
>it's better to talk about boring jolly shit than have political arguments
get a load of this faggot

>>670401015
its cool man just had to get it out

>>670401192
you're damn fucking right its better

so scots....if the uk left the EU and you had a vote to be independent and go back with the EU what would you vote?

Independence OR stay with the UK?

>>670401032
>how big our coastline is.
They aren't floating into the UK and storming our beaches at night retard. We have entry points we need to defend them and have the political ability to do so.

>I don't see what difference EU membership would make to the people in the camps at Calais

We wouldn't have to return them to France we could send them back to whatever shithole they came from.

>not the way forward.
See infographic arsehole

>nuclear energy is clean
Very clean. See France. We already have storage facilities. Uranium is certainly available and accessible.

>nuclear power doesn't destroy the landscape
I'll take a couple unsightly power stations replacing our coal fired plants, and covering every hill and our entire shoreline in hideous turbines, as appears to be the current plan.

>tell us about how the earth is flat or how smoking doesn't cause cancer, all-mighty "red pilled" warrior

The fuck are you on about you hippy faggot?

>>670388474
>Implying England doesnt need Scotland.

We're the only thing that makes the UK good. Literally everyone hates the English.

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>>670402490

Forgot the infographic

>>670401180
straight with a gf of 4 years

I completely agree they only care about economic growth and not much else- hence why they continually support and fund policies which are destroying the planet and the people on it.

But my question is, without growth, how does our economic system function? I agree the current one is not sustainable (politically or environmentally), but my solution is obviously less consumption and a more equitable distribution of wealth- what is yours?

I even agree that mass immigration and economic stagnation = social tensions, more racism etc. But what is your solution to it which isn't anti-capitalist?

>promote higher birth rates
may be an option for the future, but the problem is already here, there is an entire generation of 1 child families growing up, how can their taxes pay for the pensions of older people?

>EU leaders want to break down national states and national identities
I know that, they want to do so in order to further the interests of capitalists. See TTIP etc.
What is your solution to this which is not anti-capitalist?

>getting hung up on the differences
they are MASSIVE differences, not petty ones. They are completely distinct ideologies which have been in conflict with each other since socialism was born. Please learn some history/ political theory.

>not a sociological difference between them
Oh look another word you are using which you don't seem to know the meaning of. Please refrain from this

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>>670400629
Ha ha. Idiot

>>670402844
>>670402490
climate change denial is akin to denying smoking causes cancer or saying that the earth is flat. Different guy, but that's what he's saying and he's correct

>>670402500
good bait, but yeah we will have to pay a bit more for salmon and whiskey etc but we will charge you FUCK tons to enter england and do trade with us and use us as a conduit to europe via the channel tunnel.

pretty damn sure scotland needs us more than we need it

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>>670403196
The thing is, we all know smoking causes cancer, but there's actually no scientific proof.

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>>670390554
>english scotland
fuck off back to saxony, normany, ireland or whever the fuck off my island.
kindly

>>670403081
>cant deny the facts
>oh il call him an idiot when its me who is the idiot
kek typical scott

>>670403304
>implying we don't have most of the resources...

Why do you think your pig fucking pm wanted us to stick around so badly?

>>670403722
>being this retarded

TOP KEK

>>670403871
No, what you suggested was so utterly moronic it isn't even worth debating.

couple of days of euro shite on the bbc and every cunt is flappin like a performing seal. bunch of alsoran self sabot braincucked simpleton gowks.

>>670404101
>101
the room you'll be goin inti ya cunt.

>>670402945

>equitable distribution of wealth
So Socialism. Kill yourself. You are the problem. Do you collect benefits? I make over 100k a year sitting on my arse. I'd rather not give a single pound to freeloaders who do not have the intelligence and ability to provide for themselves.

>Growth
Offer incentives for indigenous people to have children. People are fucking, they just aren't breeding. Instead of sending people to university to take degrees in women's studies, and whatever rubbish course you took to make you an environmentalist wanker, you promote the traditional middle class, strong family values and a sense of national pride and obligation. It worked for hundreds of years. A shift towards
socialism and everything you stand for is what is killing the west.

>There is an entire generation of 1 child families growing up, how can their taxes pay for the pensions of older people?

I don't know TBH, but there has to be a better option that importing 3rd worlders. They are not going to become doctors and nurses despite the propaganda.

>What is your solution to this which is not anti-capitalist?
See above

>they are MASSIVE differences
Left is left. for the sake of this discussion is does not mater at all. Congrats for reading a book and understanding definitions. Its so unimportant its not worth replying to.

>>670403874
what resources?

North sea oil? that's basically dried up m8 and not even recognised as scottish owned its infact "special uk status"

you dumb fucks have NOTHING

cameron wanted to keep the UK whole as it has been, he doesn't want the nukes that protect the UK to be removed by that fat ugly pig Nicola Sturgeon as she plans to, and leave scotland being open to invasion or worse by russia.

Hullo

>>670404738
fuck off ya psued