>>663425615
alcohol

a shit ton of alcohol

wouldn't say it worked for me but it sucks less

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>>663425615
idk mane

>>663425615
well... what makes you depressed?

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music helps

>>663426645
that's a very momentary fix

>>663425615
Video game escapism is how I distract myself.

>>663425615
Fapping to 4chan nudes, calling other anons faggot.

>>663425615
You don't.
That's the whole point of depression.

Supposedly death cures it.

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>Stretching/exercise combined with patterned breathing
>A cool-water shower
>Going outside and listening to music
>Getting in a mascot outfit and dunking through a bad ass fucking ring of fire

Personally I am constantly dabbed out of my fucking gourd. Doesn't help the depression, just numbs the pain and makes my thoughts more disconnected and makes me feel more than just anger and sadness.

I ignore it until i have an emotional breakdown. It's a loose process, still working out the kinks

>>663425615
Make realistic goals, make short term goals that lead up to the main goal and improve situation. Also psychiatric help and medication. Cognitive behavior therapy. Exercise and avoiding caffeine and alcohol. Enter social situations and try to create friends or a social circle. Meditate. Sleep at least 8 hours a night. Take care of hygiene and dress nicely.

>>663425615
Two options:
1.-kill yourself
2.-embrace it and try to live with it. Do physical exercise, do creative stuff, vidya, books... anything to keep you away from yourself

>>663427452
You literally have no idea what depression does.

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>>663426787
I choose music because i am depressed not by circumstance or any thing that happened to me.

I feel like this because I realized that there is no meaning to life, beyond "make your own purpose man", and that soul-crushing existential feeling is what plagues me, not sadness nor anger just a horrid feeling of knowing that life is an one way journey to oblivion, knowing that the universe doesn't care about you or anything, knowing that there is no God.

That is really what killed it for me, after spending almost 10 years a "changed man" because Jesus saved me or whatever I just couldn't do it anymore, I got up and realized that I only agreed with my parents religion because I wanted them to be happy and I really wanted to believe. Then I found out my dad too was an atheist and that he had spent a very long time studying religions trying to find something to stick to and only finally landed on Buddhism because it accepted the impermanence of everything but I could never get into it.

So I listen to music

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>>663425615
You don't.

>>663427674
You're a fag, not a depressed person.

>>663427206
I sort of do this.
I breakdown when it's safe to let the facade fall, otherwise I just try to stick it out.
I also try to never give myself much time to think, or time to be conscious.

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>>663427513
Protip: If you try option one make sure your plan is fool-proof, fucking up at suicide is harsh man.

>>663427795
Explain.

i eat tiny crying babies while planning to destroy saturn and eliminate the moon people

Meds

>>663427878
>breakdown
How do you get this shit when you're depressed?
I'm semi-confident you don't get breakdowns with depression.
It just makes you depressed.

Probably a case of psychosis or some shit.

>>663425615
1. acknowledge u r depressed
2. have a desire to overcome your depression.

this is all you need. thats what I did.
I got married and focused on my career, it worked for me.
social interaction and creating goals is a must.

>>663428006
Just google 'clinical depression' and educate yourself.

>>663427674
Yea, man, i know that feeling too, but it doesn't affect me that way. An interest in science can really prevent that feeling, it really allows you to appreciate reality, one without a god.

>>663427644
No, he is telling you sound advice. Don't resort to ad hominem because you refuse to accept his post.

>>663427513
>>663427938
Rig up an automatic shotgun, or some gun-mechanism that shoots you repeatedly in the head.
Most gun suicides fail because they hit the wrong part of the brain.
You can ensure success by completely destroying the brain with multiple shots and, if you can pull it off, multiple angles.
Also make sure to use slugs, not buck/bird shot.
The slugs will definitely penetrate the skull.

>>663425615
>How do you deal with depression
Browse 4chin

>>663428312
Piss off, samefag.

>>663428312
That looked like a response of denial, as to say, i can't do that with my depression, and it's that kind of thinking that makes that come more true day after day, i know

I see people who have it worse than me, and feel enjoyment from that

>>663427938
True. Are you saying it from experience?

i build skills to deal with the causes of my depression. gotta have a gameplan and stick to it.

>>663428117
It's more that I just can't bear the weight of my depression, and I end up sobbing alone in my room, then sleeping.
I swear, most of my time in dreamland.

take tianeptine

>>663428492

You're a right cunt, ya know that?

>>663428056
Fuck the moon people

i finally feel like im breaking out of my depression for the first time in a long time

>>663425615
stop being an atheist

>>663428625
Enjoy the relapse :)

>>663428492
Edgelord pls. It doesn't work like that.
How does seeing the homeless make you feel better about having a home?
The beggar might still be happier than you if you are fucked in the head.
It's probably just some delusional shit you keep thinking to keep yourself afloat.

>>663428117
I deal with depression pretty regularly, and breakdown wouldn't be the word. I don't know if he has depression, or what he intended to say there. The episodes of depression just make it hard to be productive.

I just feel tired, and numb... frequently. It is more of a melancholy that can be more or less enjoyable or tolerable from day to day.

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>>663428357
It was perfected 40 years ago

>>663428739
:| really?

>>663428619
Yep, that is why I starded hurting people because I couldn't find anything

Vitamin D supplements and St. John's Wort.

Try it, OP. Not like other pseudo-supplements.

>>663428625

good to hear. the world is full of shit, but there are golden blobs all over.

>>663428597
Self pity is not very helpful, man.
Now you're actually made me say something worthwhile, god damnit.

>>663428775

ADDICTIONS ARE SO HARD TO KICK FUARK

Listen to the album Outrun by Kavinksy

>>663427644
I struggle with depression so actually I do know what it does. These are solutions that aren't suicide or rotting away as a recluse. Feel free to choose how you want to live the rest of your life though

>>663428775
i probably will tbh
>>663428889
hopefully i can keep myself going

>>663428878

that's really sad

>>663428219
For clinical depression, you must have five or more of the following symptoms over a two-week period, most of the day, nearly every day. At least one of the symptoms must be either a depressed mood or a loss of interest or pleasure. Signs and symptoms may include:

Depressed mood, such as feeling sad, empty or tearful (in children and teens, depressed mood can appear as constant irritability)
Significantly reduced interest or feeling no pleasure in all or most activities
Significant weight loss when not dieting, weight gain, or decrease or increase in appetite (in children, failure to gain weight as expected)
Insomnia or increased desire to sleep
Either restlessness or slowed behavior that can be observed by others
Fatigue or loss of energy
Feelings of worthlessness, or excessive or inappropriate guilt
Trouble making decisions, or trouble thinking or concentrating
Recurrent thoughts of death or suicide, or a suicide attempt

I feel empty and worthless in the face of an uncaring world devoid of any God. About a week ago I tried to hang myself but failed because the branch I tied to rope to was too high so I had to untie myself and then go home. But really this isn't something I think I need to justify to anyone, but I will say that I am not trying to devalue the idea of depression if anything I would be classified as mildly depressed.

How's your day?
You listening to any music in particular?

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>>663425615

Get dubs

It cured my cancer

>>663429083
Maybe you should talk to a doctor for once.

>>663429083
>choose

That is the best way to describe it.

>>663428970
Maybe, but it's all I can do most of the time to keep it together in everyday life.
I feel like I'm constantly fighting back tears, and I don't want to get help because then I become "that guy" and things will just get worse because then I don't have a network to rely on.

>>663428873
yes.
convert to buddhism or some vague shit that isnt completely contradictory to science so it will be palatable for your mind

>>663428472
I'm not going to presume to understand him. He was obviously bothered though.

CBT does help, and forming small goals facilitates a framework that will inhibit the possibility of a relapse.

I think everybody is depressed to varying degrees, and some people are just more apt at remedying the causative factors for their distress.

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>>663425771
same

>>663427674
buddhism is awesome, ive tried to get into it but like everything else in my life i give up so incredibly easy

>>663428510
Tried hanging myself.
>There's a forest area near my house, about 30 minute walk
>I ran there because I knew if I walked I might talk myself out of it
>Haphazardly tied the extension cord I brought to use as a rope around a branch that was hanging above a creek
>Tied it around my neck and as I finished the branch I was standing on broke, this is ok
>Branch was too low, fell and got mild burns on my neck from that fall as the only thing to catch me was the cord
>Cord branch was tied to was too low
>I stood there
>I untied myself
>I just listened to some music will sitting in the creek for a couple hours waiting for something cathartic to happen
>nothing
>I've been listening to music ever since

>>663429197
8/9.

Well that's a shame boys...

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>>663429197
See, you don't look all that depressed now, just 'down'.
>I'm so depressed
It triggers me. It's disrespectful towards people actually suffering from depression.
>omg I'm so saaad and hopeless send me to the hospital
Shit ain't working like that.

I used to have depression, but I just sorta.. stopped giving a damn about it.
Stop caring. Stop the self loathing and pity.
Live slow, die whenever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru8XIGMO1Co
this vid helps

Personally I starve myself for long periods of time just to feel something. I'm at a bmi of 16 so I should probably stop but eh.

Depression is not necessarily sadness. Just void. Because when you are sad you feel, and deelimg remimds you that you are alive.
And there is no happiness either. What made you feel happy before depression no longer serves its purpose. And you are not convinced you are alive.
At first I felt really fucking sad and it was too much to handle. Sometimes i cried in public places and did my best to hide it cause it was too fucking much. Then the sadness just stabilised and I became accustomed to it. Then i didn't feel at all. Just a corpse without the guts to fully end it.
And yeah, i sometimes get that feeling back. And it's not bad. Cause I got through it once, now i am more immune to it. And i just welcome it.
These kind of things are xp points. In the long run, you will end up remembering this. And you will smile. You can do it. Either by death or life, what you are feeling has a short life

Ive tried 5htp and hypericum. Didn't do shit to me, maybe more calmed, numb my emotions and relaxed, but didn't make me happy.

Tried paroxetine, killed my dick and emotions, I was a zombie. But didn't gave me any motivation nor happiness.

No I will try gingseng and that shit that comes form the bees. Let's hope it gives me any piece of motivation to do things an do things and enjoy life a little more.

>>663425615
Fitness and sleep. Also keep a busy schedule and keep a social life.

>>663428472
The first step is realizing you are on a bad path and an outside force is needed to bump you in anther direction. I don't mean a dysfunctional unhealthy relationship or something, more like, be aware that you are actually depressed and seek professional help.

>>663429999
Oh holy wakamoly
Check my fuckin quads

>>663429197
according to this standard I had massive depression.
yet I overcame it through sheer willpower alone.
fucking hell I am a boss.

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>>663429197
Not that anon, but you should listen to some phil ochs. He was riddled with horrible depression add will but produced wonderful music. The bells and highway man are my favorites. He even sung with John Lennon.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hX1o1yLIvak

I have been having real bad depression recently, to the point where I can't sleep. What helps me get to sleep and forget about it is I will take about 10 benadryl and chug about a quarter bottle of nyquil. Gets me to sleep and I forget about the depression for a few days then I start all over again.

>>663429999
Nice quads.
And I having a similar experience.
Used to be that I just felt like my mom had died, every single day.
Now I don't even happy or sad, just hollow.

>>663428510
I nearly overdosed on sleeping pills and whiskey. Woke up alone covered in vomit a day and a half later alone and unnoticed. Surviving is sad and shameful. It made things worse than before for certain.

>>663429197
Listen to Lifelover

>>663425615
Do you want to deal with your depression in the sense that you want it to be over, or are you just trying to ride the waves?

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A lot of listening to this album and trying to avoid drugs. I easily fall in love with girls because i get a surge of happiness at the thought of not being miserable. I realized it was not healthy and i would probably be more miserable than ever when i got out of the relationship so now i try to avoid my feelings. Smoked weed once but regretted it because of how i felt after the good feeling was over. Depression is going to fuck you up my friend. Boxing has helped me a lot though, you should try it or lifting

>>663429966
Also, check 'em.

>>663428625
Careful. Take it easy. I get real happy before I get real sad. Don't stop doing the positive things that got you to a good place. Stay in touch with everyone while your happy and reach out before yo slip back

>>663430467
Im sorry, anon.
Try hypothermia. My grandpa almost died in a snowy field. He told me he felt a peace that no one can reach in life. Pure harmony.

>>663430397
Add will, as well**

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>>663425615
you stay in the depression long enough to become psycohtic

>>663428739
Religion is more depressing to me

>>663430740
It's not external. Sometimes things just fail to make you happy

>>663425615
Get a regular sleeping pattern
Do some exercise, even just a walk
Accept that it will always be a part of you and you will have lower periods but work out the best ways to manage it and spot the signs you're slipping and take preventative measures

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>>663425615
Fuck something op!

>>663430828
doesnt have to be full blown religion
just a vague belief that you dont know what will happen or that there is some order or purpose for existence will do

>>663429253
What makes you think I haven't?

>>663431012
[spoiler]Feels[spoiler]

>>663429884
I understand what you are saying man but I think the problem here is that even when you are just 'down' it is so easy to get lost in that mindset and allow yourself to think that this is simply reality now.

>>663431147
I personally am attracted to the fact that we are alone and there is nothing out there. It makes everything less serious. And emptiness and darkness appeals to me... just to swim in infinity... pure harmony, ya kno?

>>663431147
It's nice to live a lie, ignorance is bliss. But the sad thing is there is not meaning, not purpose in life. Nothing will matter because we will die.it doesn't matter to be remembered. We are nothing.life or death is the same.

>>663425615
Read Nietzsche. All his work is him trying to convince himself not to suicide

I was depressed for a while a few years ago. You're supposed to smile more and take comments that others give you. That works.
I'm depressed now, but theres nothing that I can change this time.

>>663431542
Then why don't you just fucking an hero already?
Or are you to busy giving pointless advice?

I just keep it to myself and pretend it's not there. If someone asks me how I'm doing, the answer is always good. I play a lot of addicting games like runescape, or skyrim, or wow, you know, shit you can never really beat , and get lost in shit like youtube or music

>>663425615
One day at a time.

Then setting things to look forward to... Buying tickets to foo fighters or something.

Slowly fill in between to keep yourself entertained.

Don't have time for depression.

I know it runs deeper than that with some people, but it helps to keep yourself busy but entertained

>>663430430
I did that a lot for years. Self medicating is not a good idea. You should see a doctor. Also benedryl and zquil will turn your teeth brown over time. That will make it worse, believe me

>>663431542
if you assert that to be true, it will become true for you. of that there is no doubt.
if thats what you want, by all means, continue thinking the way you do.

>>663431616
>>663431473
>>663430877
>>663430757
>>663430543
>>663429999
Samefag here.
Im tired.
How can i summon the courage to suicide? I am afraid of pain, not death
And i am afraid i will repent the last minute

>>663431542
Existentialism is pussy tier shit.
>omg waaah nobody forced any meaning upon my existence
Make up your own meaning, idiot.
You are your own boss, although a really, really shitty one if you suffer major depressive disorder.

>>663425615
I don't know anon but I'd love to figure out how to

I tried alcohol but that just made me hate myself

I tried buying things, but they're all just temporary distractions

I don't know where to go or what to do, so I go to work and do my job then come home and sleep. I only come out to get food or go to work. Nothing interests me anymore, and recently I've been longing for the person that help put me down here.

It's not fun.

>>663432541
Recommending my own post.
>>663428357

>>663431473
I prefer a good mystery myself.
as humans we literally know two tenths of fuck all.
keep an open mind about existence or what this could all mean and avoid falling into dogma

>>663432541
Why would you kill yourself?
It's not very depression-esque.
Bipolar on the other hand...
Just wait out your live.
You will still die.
>b-but things are getting worse
How exactly? You're being tortured in 'nam?

>>663431473
Think about all the fucking aliens that could show up the day after you pull the trigger.

>>663425615
by cheering the fuck up

>>663432856
Odds these aliens are fuckable are near zero.
Thanks for making me more depressed, faggot.

zoloft. shit's great mane

>>663433119
Yeah, but they could hook you up to the matrix, except filled with pornstars that want your dick.
That shit could literally fall out of the sky tomorrow.

>>663432649
I'm talking about objective meaning. Of course you can be happy making your own meaning. There are happy workaholics and their jobs makes them happy, others get happiness by helping each other, others making mlney..etc

>>663431836
I don't want anyone to kill themselves. I'm just pointing some objective facts. Life is nothing compared to the infinite of voidness that waits to us then we die. I don't killmyself because I'm gonna die anyways and I have some things t

>>663433119
all they need is a hole anon.
just one hole.

>>663432784
>>663432856
Im not sad. Im OK, im just kind of lazy. In life there is only chaos. I death, peace and harmony.
I just dont feel like living anymore.
When i die i wont even miss life. Then, why live it?
And my life is pretty good. Family, great friends, studying, healthy... still. I just dont feel like i want to go through the trouble of life
I am so attracted by death, by infinite bliss

>>663433357
did you feel infinite bliss before you were born? I think not.

>>663432705
Im just afraid of the fact that there is no turning back. Thats why people take drugs. Cause they loose themselves for a moment. They die for some hours. And there is turning back

>>663425615
I struggle with this too anon. I think I'm going to end it soon, it doesn't get better.

>>663433357
You could have that "infinite bliss" in a brain in a vat scenario.
Death isn't infinite bliss, it's just fucking nothing.
You wouldn't even have the mind to appreciate this fact, let alone find peace.

>Yes, I'm the aliens guy

>>663433607
why not hang around for WW3
shit is going to be hectic as fuck

>>663433357
I agree with you bro. Life is meaningless. But death is not happiness, just void, like before you were born. You can't feel anything because you can feel or think

>>663433540
>>663433729
Feeling is the root of chaos. You cant feel bliss. But it is there

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>>663425615
Alcohol and burrying my feelings until I snap and lose my shit
Just found out my older brother is thinking about suicide again, he attempted once before 2 years ago. He's only 10months older.
I grow emptier everyday.

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>>663433293
You could still get an existentialist crisis because 'shit ain't real'.
>existentialists, the maximum pussies

>>663433326
I might be a furfag but I still have some standards beyond holes.

>>663433540
Nothing is relatively pleasant if you are depressed.
Both ways.

>>663433581
Then you don't really want to die.
To be fair, few people actually do.
Anyway, that's one of the foolproof ways that a civilian could do it.
But if you want to do this the fun way, become the Punisher.
Your odds of staying alive just get lower and lower the more you "punish."

>>663429069
I like the way you think

>>663434288
Then wipe the knowledge that you're in a simulation from your mind.
Voila, existentialist crisis averted.
Besides, that's basically what life is, just more boring gameplay.

What drugs can I take to stop feeling emotions?

>>663425615
Just take a big dose of a entheogen and learn what's life about

>>663434035
>You can't feel bliss.
I would beg to differ.
Shit's gotten pretty bad recently, but I have some memories that I would kill for to relive.

>>663434623
Paroxetine, you will feel nothing, good or bad. You won't even enjoy music. You will feel emotionless. You also won't be able to cum.

>>663434575
They'd still question it, tip their fedora and think themselves enlightened by their own intelligence.
There's people convinced they already are in a simulation.

>>663430004
Paraxoctine is a shit tier AD maine, from own experience. I highly suggest anyone to just seek professional help , as mentioned before, psychologist and psychiatrist. In that order. An constructive effort is in my opinion vital, supplements won't fix a broken mind.

>>663433934
Of course. But the last seconds of life are indeed pure bliss. And that's the last you feel. Then you feel nothing. And the last thing you feel....
I wouldn't know how to explain. I somehow know that death is balance. Harmony.
>>663434303
I dont want to live either


You know what i really want? To just walk into a forest. Walk and walk and walk until i get tired and lie down and let life pass by, slowly, peacefully, enjoying every single one of my last minutes. Because there is peace there. And then, nothing. The vpid is peaceful. The abyss is balance. It's not warm or cold. It's not light or dark. Just nothing
And nothing is good.

>>663434623
Why would you want to do that?

>>663430430

Please stop. That's so unhealthy. Have you tried hand reflexology and ankle acupressure for insomnia?

>>663434952
That can be edited out too.
Not compulsorily, obviously.
They would choose to be in that reality anyway, so they'd edit themselves to be the best thing ever, and that includes enjoying this life to the fullest.
Funny how all the existentialist bullshit gets taken apart when you are immortal and have everything you could possibly want, even a custom made you.

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>>663425771
alcohol and pills

>>663434952
a lot of people agree that the parameters and laws of the universe are consistwnt with that of a simulation so it is indeed possible

You grow up and get over it, you fucking pathetic, weak minded pussies.

>>663434901
Thank you anon. Any tips on getting a prescription?

>>663435400
>max sad

>>663434845
True. You can feel bliss. It's just so fucking uncommon.
I only feel bliss when i am alone in nature. I just stop feeling human. I just feel i am. End of it. I feel part of it. I feel part of the whole. I dont feel pain. I dont feel anything. Just peace. Hard to describe.
Call me what you want. Its how i feel.

>>663435168
Fuck all that bullshit.
Embrace the chaos, try to enjoy it while you still got it.
The best sleep you can ever get is when you've tired yourself out before hand.
Much more restful that way.

>>663425615
I used to think the best way to deal with depression would be to stay on 4chan, drink, smoke two packs a day and take drugs like it aint no thing. I dont know why i thought that, thats bullshit.
I grew the fuck up and realised if i wanted things to be different i'd have to get up and change them because they weren't changing themselves. I started working out, working harder to find employment, stopped smoking and all that sucked. A year later though i have a 10/10 girlfriend i love to bits, i have my health and overall i have a good life.

Don't want to be depressed? do something, or shut the fuck up about it.

>>663434830
One of the best REAL advice until now, especially if you do what >>663430974 says

>>663435369
The question then becomes a grave one
>is it still you?

Ghost In The Shell up in this ma.

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>>663435662
That's a flow state.
It happens when you become ultra focused on something.
Try finding a hobby that engages you like this.
If you could find good days in the past, then you can find them again.
Live to discover those moment all over again.

>>663435171
Any short lived happiness I experience does nothing but bring me to a further height to fall from, I hate it just as much as the sadness. The only way to stop feeling bad is to stop feeling good. Thus, to stop feeling.

>>663425615
>>663425771
weed

a shit ton of weed

wouldn't say it worked for me but it makes me feel dank af

>>663427181
Excellent advice anon.

>>663435662
(Samefag)
I don't think it's a human feeling. I think that's how animals feel. They just feel they are and keep on going.

Ah fuck.... and normally when i see deer running around in the forests i just feel so happy. So full... to see life that lives by its own, in its own little world, innocent... i fucking love deer. Their mindless, childlike eyes just make me cry out of happiness and sadness (because im not with them). And it's so hsrd to get. Humans have destroyed this earth.
I am from a green and wild country. But i live in a yellow, arid country now. And it makes me feel so bad..
I just feel i NEED to die when i come here from home.

>>663436083
Who cares if it's still "me"?
It's my consciousness, it's still my show.
I just hired some better writers for this season.

>>663435509
Go to a doc tell him you are depressed and tell him all your si.ptoms about depression. If you have it it wouldn't be a problem

Smoking weed, exercising, playing basketball, music, alcohol (not over doing it though), painting, making others laugh, trying to get into making music. Just staying busy tbh.

>>663436083
That's the riddle of the mind.
You're psychological and physical makeup changes constantly, but "you" are still there to experience things.
Complicated shit, but I'd like to think that even if I changed some aspects of my personality, I'd still be the one experiencing things.

>>663436401
It's time for some drugs, bruh.
Try some more far out stuff like LSD or shrooms.

>>663436832
That's for when you feel really sad.
Not when you are clinically depressed

>>663436519
Think long and hard about this.
>or don't

Do you consider yourself some kind of automaton?

>>663436919
In fact, you are god. Your consciousness is so mich bigger and important than other's consciousness. So even if it changes form, it will always be the consciousness of a god

>>663425615
http://totalfratmove.com/guy-goes-to-mexico-to-kill-himself-spends-week-doing-coke-and-banging-hookers-decides-to-keep-living/

>>663437087
Good question.
I'm a Materialist, or so damn close to one that I can't really tell the difference, so I think I am just the chemical and electrical goings on of my brain.
So, yeah, I guess I'm just a meat machine responding to outside input and evolutionary programming.

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>>663425615
>How do you deal with depression

Take magnesium supplements.

About a decade or so ago I dealt with clinical depression for a number of years previous to that time. After reading an obscure article in a well known medical journal that seems to have received zero acclaim or even attention then, or even now, I found that it was determined at that time that 91-97% of people suffering from clinical depression had low to insufficient levels of magnesium in their bodies.

I immediately went to the local pharmacy chain, bought magnesium supplements and began taking them regularly with my other supplements and can honestly say I have not felt depressed since

The amazing part is if you knew my life in its entirety you'd think there is absolutely no reason this guy shouldn't be depressed ("old," no gf, no friends, regularly makes grammatical errors in posts, etc), but I am not now, nor have I been after about a week of steady intake of magnesium supplements, depressed since that time.

You can't od on magnesium

They are low cost

They require NO SUBSCRIPTION

They are not addictive

They do not react adversely with other vitamins or medications.

Get off of the prescribed meds (even if only for a few weeks to try this out), fuck the pharmaceutical corps in their asses and get on with your life without being restrained and degenerated by drugs that might temporarily "fix" your depression but will cause a host of other problems and expenses.

Seriously, the machine does not want you to be independently healthy.
There is no profit in it for them, but this is YOUR LIFE.
Take hold of it and deny any and all forms of slavery that are imposed, indoctrinated, or manipulated upon YOUR LIFE.

This is definitely one way to start.

>>663437219
>you are god
nigga wat?
Other people go through this shit too, just hard (impossible maybe) to explain is all.

>>663437291
Zoozzloo

>>663437411
stfu...

>>663437642
What?
That's not a legitimate belief?

>>663437411
You're not, though.
It's just a coping mechanism.
The human power of free will is one of the greatest forces known to us.
You have it, too.

>>663437841
Where can I find this free will?
Can you point it out to me during an open heart surgery?
Can you see it on an EEG?

Everything in the universe obeys the laws of physics, including your brain.
Pretty short step from there to lack of freewill.

>>663427452
>Enter social situations and try to create friends or a social circle
Why? What is the point?
>Meditate.
Why? What is the point?
>Take care of hygiene and dress nicely.
Why? What is the point?

You do understand it is all completely and utterly pointless? It's just that non-depressed people can delude themselves into thinking their pointless pursuits have meaning. Life is a blind biological process that is devoid of all and any meaning. That is why people convert to religions, for the comfort of the delusion that life would have meaning that transcends biology.

"Hi, depressed guy, I would recommend some delusion for you. OK bye."

>>663437629
You are the only one to be sure to have
consciousness. That's the only truth. You can't really know if others have it.
Your existence is so different from others... when you walk in the streets, you see people. You are the only one who is sure to have consciousness. The others could be bots. I myself am just text on a screen to you. I could just be a robot. You can't really tell.

>>663438128
Many here fail to tell apart sadness from depression

>>663438096
Then where are the parallels in animals?

I dare say no animal knowingly or voluntarily killed itself, ever.
Animals don't do gambling.
Animals don't have fancy beliefs.

We clearly have something they do not or at least have it in much greater quantity.

>>663438153
True, but they sure look like they have minds.
I mean, from a strictly logical standpoint, you're right.
I could be the only one actually "awake", but I get better practical results from my life if I go off the assumption that they are actually there.
Not only that but they mirror even my own private thoughts. Hard to conceive of a thoughtless machine doing to that.

>>663438495
And that is our doom. Because humans kill themselves. Consciousness is negative. Consciousness kills.

>>663427452
This is a list of what you cannot do - indeed cannot see the reason to do - if you are depressed. If you can do them, you aren't depressed. So, it's useless.

realize nothing matters
want and hope breed disappointment and sadness,
do not want anything.expect the worst to happen
if you do not want anything it is impossible to deny you.
you can set goals,but expect the worse.
look at your universe from the outside,your life is just how you perceive the universe.
happiness is the light and sadness is the shadow.the shadow cannot exist without the light.
cast your wants and hopes away and accept reality.its blissful tbh

>>663438495
>Animals don't go gambling
To gain dominance in their herd, gorillas will challenge each other for alpha position. The loser often gets severely injured, even dies.

>Animals don't have fancy beliefs
They don't have the brainpower for it.

The only thing about us that makes us really special are very smart brains.

Don't get me wrong, I think many higher order animals are conscious, maybe even as conscious as us, but they're just as much a slave to physics and evolution as we are.

>>663438620
No other animal landed on the moon either.
Or built as much as a simple spear.
>not even fucking wheels
Although I'm sure some understand the concept of 'rolling'
>dubs get

>no animal landed on the moon
tbh fam I'm not even sure. Maybe we sent some there. I don't know.
It wasn't a lack of consciousness that brought us where we are; and it has the (very remote) potential to take us further.

don't drink OP it will only numb the pain not heal it.
Just try to be grateful for everything is all I can tell you. Most people can't even eat or walk when they want to. Just be happy with what you have and make the most of yourself .

>>663439066
Not gambling as in metaphorically gambling something.
A contest of skill or strength is not gambling.

if only the doc can prescribe me a bullet

>>663439255
Like I said, not much brainpower in most animals but us.
The very idea of gambling might just be beyond their feeble minds, just as suicide due to depression might be.
But many do take stupid risks for personal benefit.

>>663439102
monkeys have used large sticks sharpened with their teeth that could be considered spears

>>663439479
They can some places.
More effective things than a bullet, in fact.
And their needle has dead aim.

I've been deppressed, with suicidal thinking etc...
The only thing that you need to do, even if it's hard to hear is to get your fucking shit together.
Depression is one of the result of our brainless society. The fact that some people here tried to get better by BUYING more stuff is the best exemple.
I think that depression is literaly the result of your mind realizing that you don't have any value. Do not forget that i'm saying this KNOWING that at some point in my life i was worth nothing.
So the best way to go out of this is to be someone valuable at least to yourself.
1. Stop lying, to others and to yourself
If you want to do something do it now or accept the fact that you're not going to do it.
2. Stop wasting you're time
Dont hang out with people you don't like and stop being what you're not. If you stay at home every movie or video that you're watching need to have a sense to you. If not you're wasting your time.
3. Find some things to do
If possible more than one occupation so you'll not feel like a no life.

And then if you're feeling a bit stable, learn to enjoy your own compagny through reflexion. For exemple i draw, walk and do bicycle for this. Because in life you will most of the time be alone and if you can transform your time alone in something as cool as time with someone you love, well i think you're good.

Last tip : don't forget that a change in your life isn't "bad" or "good", you're making bad or good so don't let any change break you.
And I think that in some case, entheogen can be very helpful, see psyched substance on youtube, he talks about it in a very accesible way.

>>663439667
Yeah, chimps are pretty much just a step down the intelligence chain from us, and they are a great reminder why we are only special in that we are the best of what's already out there, namely intelligence.

>>663439667
Made me lol, almost Satan.
The more intelligent animals engage in some but very limited too use, they never truly manufacture something, though.

>>663439643
'Brainpower' is a bit of a loaded term, since it disagrees with the idea we are slaves to our brain chemistry.
But certainly, 'intelligence' is what sets us apart.
We're not strictly physical formidable individually.
Especially not on 4chan.

>>663425615
You don't. Depression deals with you

>>663439756
>The fact that some people here tried to get better by BUYING more stuff is the best exemple.
Are you talking about me?
How do you know?
Fucking psychics, man.
It sort of works, though. At least as long as you keep buying stuff.

>>663439756
but nothing truly has value

>>663440024
By brainpower I mean the traditional hallmarks of intelligence, like the ability to think of a problem from different perspectives, or even just think of a problem, how much you can remember, how fast you can trace a logical train of thought, or just straight up think.
Kind of like having a better cpu in your computer: it's all physical, and the computer isn't necessarily "smarter", just better equipped, and hence able to run more taxing and complicated software i.e. thoughts.

>>663425615
Used to smoke weed to escape it but turns out my mind wanders even more so when on weed and had a mind breaking trip. (Not from the weed more my own thoughts.) Thought my life was pointless. Went on antidepressants and fucked myself up more. Picked up a girlfriend that genuinely cares for me for the first time and helped me get off the antidepressants and deal with my problems from where I was raped many years ago by an upperclassman. Fast forward 3 years and we got married. Half a year later we built a gaming PC. Fast forward 5 months and we hit 4 years of being together and fast forward another 2 weeks and you've got me right now. Still have panic attacks here and there. Flashbacks and shit but we manage to get through. I recommend trying to find something to do to distract you from the pain at points. Music, games, anything. That's what I do now.

>>663440463
That's not really true.
Black Holes are pretty expensive because they are a solid investment, very heavy and very hazardous.
Additionally there is not an equal amount of certain atoms on the whole.
Some are a lot more rare in the universe than others.
That means energy is worth something, as well.
Your electricity bill is not in vain.
Electrons are pretty cheap, though, and technically you only borrow them.

>>663425615
1. Torture animals then give a homeless person $50
2. Lose touch with what is good or bad then depression will no longer exist.
3. Lose empathy for others because it's an unnecessary burden in your life
4. Become a sociopath. Don't give zero fucks. It's liberating as fuck.

>>663440669
How exactly would that work chemically anyways.
The whole idea of abstract thinking being down to chemistry is ridiculous.
If anything it's down to the way our neurons connect.
And that's already more complex than binary computers and computing.
If anything we are an relatively advanced biological computer.

>>663425615

You guys put me in the mood for a feels trip.

I've spent the last two years feeling like a hollowed out ghoul. There have been nice, empowering moments within that, but the bulk of it has been spent needlessly worrying and thinking negatively about my past, my current circumstances and physical appearance. I'm aware that I have only myself to blame for these thoughts, because I believe only the vulnerable allow themselves to be influenced or controlled by them. I know that I have to strengthen my mentality and develop a more realistic and self-supportive mindset. The thing is, despite acknowledging these things as what they are, I'm unable to break free of burdensome negative thought patterns. I wake up with a storm cloud over my head, just like many of you do, and carry this around in my days trying too hard to control the anxiety. Don't get me wrong; I'm not that guy that walks around moping with a pessimistic attitude being a dick to people all the time - I try to make an active effort to be courteous, compassionate and understanding to those I interact with. I give my best efforts towards maintaining a composed and relaxed appearance, but I'm sure my negative thoughts reflect both in my eyes and facial expressions. However, I still feel trapped in this cage I built myself. Many of you may call me a fag, but at least one of you feels me on this shit.

I want to defeat this shit, and take back my mind so that I can become a better communicator in both social and professional settings, and grow closer to my mother by nurturing the bond I have worked hard to strengthen with her. They say to fake confidence and self-certainty until the fantasy becomes reality, but what do you do if you've spent years as a recluse throwing mental haymakers at yourself?

How do I regain control of my thoughts?

>tl;dr
>be socially awkward, anxiety having recluse
>constantly beat self up
>mind usually in the gutters
>be longing for self-improvement
>what do

>>663441108
>Lose touch with what is good or bad
>then depression will no longer exist
It's true you can't get depressed if you are depressed.

>>663441199
I don't exactly mean chemically, just the fact that the whole process is physical.
And, yes it is all quite complex.
But it's ultimately just the laws of physics playing themselves out.

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I get dubs

>>663440945
so is value based on quality or quantity?
either way the universe is infinite.so mathematically speaking you can and will find any amount of anything in if you lurk

>>663441548
fail

>>663440463
Yeah but have you seen cats killing themself because they don't do things that have value. No.
I'm just trying to help. For me depression doesn't really make sense anymore. I'm bipolar but every time i'm in a bad phase it's less long and less intense. And I think that this is the result of following what i'm saying in the other post.
About the value of things, I draw in my Free time, I do not consider myself a good drawer and I do not sell what i do. But I Find it really good for my psyche to draw from time to time and every drawing that I make has à lot of value to me. And this is what matters.

>>663425615
oder some ketamine online.

>>663439102
Why do you need to land on the moon? What do you need science for? Happiness? No, happiness is not so simple.

>>663441899
Irony

>>663431012
Wow, I just realised I have depression.

This sucks.

I realized the Heaven's Gate website still exists even though the cult members killed themselves almost 20 years ago.

Here's their position against suicide:
http://www.heavensgate.com/misc/letter.htm

Lel.

If you don't know about the group, see:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven%27s_Gate_%28religious_group%29

>>663441503
Everything is the laws of physics playing themselves out. bruh.
If you don't get played by physics you're not physically real.
>minds
Are not physically real and consequently not physically played out.
All these things in out heads don't exist.
Not physically. Physically they are just a mesh of neurons and electricity.

But this only empowers the thing, the mind.
Physics are some limiting factor, but the mind itself goes well beyond the deterministic horizon of physics.
We humans have made a bit of a sport of defeating physics - the deterministic world.
Humans aren't meant to fly but we still do.
Not because of physics I tell you.
>although also because of it
It's hard to keep these things seperated.
Naturally the plane is physical and flies by physical rules.
But physics did not build that plane.

Sorry. I'm high AND drunk.

>>663441950
>oder
>German detected
Wie geht's?

>>663441973
I'm quite sure austronauts are proud and happy when they survive all these ordeals.

>>663441587
It does not contain infinite mass.
Just all of it.

>>663442186
i meant to type "order".
Trotzdem hallo!

>>663442186
It could also be Switzerland or Austria. But my nigga Barack Obama said they speak Austrian in Austria, though.

>>663425615
Thinking about the infinite numbers of ways I could die from just getting out of bed in the morning. Saying if I die, then cool beans and go through my daily routine.

>>663442490
Hab gezozzled.

Listen to some Nick Drake or Elliott Smith fam

>>663442140
>Sorry. I'm high AND drunk.
I envy you

i suck fat dicks on a daily basis

>>663442140
>I'm high and drunk
I got that impression

I have class in 7 hours, and I think I should spend some of that time sleeping.

I admire your belief in freewill, in spite of not having anything concrete to base it on. Also I try to pretend I really do have it. Studies find that if people accept that they don't have freewill they start acting antisocially.

Anyway, I enjoyed this rambling discussion. Hope the rest of your life is filled with joy, peace, and love.
Goodnight.

>>663442660
I don't like that nigga Drake, son.

>>663442582
Why would you care about death if you are dead, anyways? The whole thing is mind numbing.
If you are about or destined to die then I can tell you:
you will die
and afterwards you will be dead.
You will not be giving two shits.

This is the outcome to everything.

Killing yourself is like getting off the rollercoaster because it will stop.
You're doing it wrong.

>>663441264
I can relate, bro. I'm here for you.
Just be yourself. Do what makes you feel happy. Because it's impossible to be happy by being someone you are not. You'll only find instability there. And don't rely too much on social affairs. It's not that important. Do you have friends? A good number is three good friends. Stay with them.
And remember not to care about what anyone thinks. They really don't give a fuck about you. Just like you don't give a fuck about them.
Anxiety takes energy from you. Go to the gym, and when you come home, you won't have enoigh energy to be anxious. Excercise can really help. Trust me.

>>663442223
Astronauts. Not humanity

>>663442720
>Hope the rest of your life is filled with joy, peace, and love.
It will be if he keeps it short and vigorously imagines joy, peace, and love until he's maggot food.