Well if she knew him for you knew here. You're safe. If not, you are fucked.
Ditch the bitch. The poster hangs. Don't be such a pussy about is. You will meet other women.

>>647086095
You're dumb, fuck off.
OP>If your girl is not willing to even consider it, she must be doing some shady shit.
I would put it all on the table man, say some shit like "Prove to me, right now that he isn't a threat, and that you're not enabling it."

(assuming picture is related) she's obviously not interested in that fgt, she brushed him off every time. quit being such an insecure baby about it.

>>647085621
You have trust issues. My girlfriend has guy friends and I have girl friends. We know we can trust each other. She still doesn't like naked lady posters though. Lol.

>>647086095
>>647086602
>>647086641

..... dont reply to trolls....

>>647086641
You should know what a 4chan filename is by now...unless...you're a NEWFAG
GET HIM, BOYS

>>647085621
>i tell her i don't want her to see him
Good job ruining the relationship.
You just told her that you don't trust her, and that she needs your permission to have friends.

Just dump her yourself since you've already fucked up.

>>text me
thanks
>>text me

>>647086896
Not all friends, just him. She's in a band and this is a guy who comes to watch her sing and hits on her at the open mics and shows. The rest of the band members are guys. There's quite a few regular guys she's friends with and I don't care.
This guy doesn't like me though and she still wants to be friends with him.

have her let you take a video of him fucking her. post it here.

You're acting like a total woman, OP.

>>647087042
If she chooses this one friend over you, then obviously she is trying to either make you jealous, or the next dick she will ride on after she dumps you.

>>647086896
this.

the more u push it, the more pissed off she'll get and will become way more likely to actually fuck him just to spite u. no one likes jealous controlling types. if she says shes not gonna fuck him ya gotta respect ur girlfriend enough to trust that she wont.
unless shit does happen, then feel free to dump the bitch

Dump her. It's not controlling, it's about talking about your problems, your opinions, and making things work. If she just wants to throw the 'your controlling' line, she is infact, an entitled bitch who doesn't respect your feelings.

Which is a problem with a lot of white girls these days. Just remember, she is nothing special. Just another pair of tits that probably doesn't have much of a personality. There are millions, 10s, 20s of millions of girls out there, so fucking dumb the childish bitch.

Also get rid of your dumbass naked lady poster. If you want her to treat you like a man, don't act 15, retard.

>>647087387

Or it means she has dignity

>>647085621
Red flag. Break up with her

>>647087803
Fuck no. It was here before her. It'll be here after she's long gone.

>>647085621
OP> My wife has a similar guy to this, she knows that he's crazy about her but she's just not interested in him. I don't know you/her, anon, but I really don't think you have anything to worry about... Have some trust, if you don't it's never gonna work out.

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>>647086762
Why do you have female friends? Are you a gay?

>>647087715
telling her not to talk to her friend isnt "talking about your problems" its fucking controlling and no sane woman wants to put up with that shit. you sound like a loser thats never had any success with women. "Just remember, she is nothing special. Just another pair of tits that probably doesn't have much of a personality." no wonder they don't like you faggot

>>647088198

He's probably not a manbaby.

>>647085621
Thanks for that list of completely true things.

it's a fucking poster, grow up

on the other hand, if you genuinely think she would cheat on you with this guy either sort it out with him or end the relationship

grow the fuck up

>>647087042
Hey op, it's me from >>647086896

It doesn't matter if it's just 1 guy or any guy. The message stays the same. "I forbid you from seeing this person because I do not trust your ability to stay faithful" is the only possible message that could be sent.

It shows that you're either too weak to be taken as a serious respectable presence to other men, and that you think she/the relationship is too weak to not resist this cuck-maker.

You've done fucked up.

>>647087599
>the more u push it, the more pissed off she'll get

And this is 100% correct.

OP - either let it go and appologize right now, or just dump her. Either way you're already fucked though.

>>647088306
A wot?

>every time they're together he hits on her
>i can trust her as much as i can and know she won't fuck him
>he will still try every single time they hang out
>she obviously is not uncomfortable with this
she should just date him.

>>647086602
actually this last part is good advice, your the one who has a problem with the guy for whatever reason, so just ask her to try and prove why you shouldnt worry, and it cant be her word, it has to be actual proof.

>>647088519

No kidding. He's being fun and flirty and OP is just being a judgy asshole.

>>647088564
She tells me about what they talk about. More than once it's been "he talks about me leaving you."
It's not innocent talk about playing guitar or performing, it's him trying to form a weird relationship with her while still with me. And she sees nothing wrong with this. He has a problem with me, she knows it, and this doesn't bother her because "it's not like I'm going to fuck him"
but you'll listen to him tell you that I'm "bad for you" fuck you

>>647087042
ok no dont listen to these guys,

Its not a bad thing to not want your girlfriend to talk to certain people, like i wouldnt let my girl hang out with a well known flirt or druggies, its simple, your not comfortable with her hanging out with them, same reason why a girl doesnt want you to go to a strip club, they know you wont touch them because the bouncer wont let you but they just dont like it.

The whole "you can do whatever you want whenever you want" works for some people, but not everyone so dude seriously just talk to her about it and have her show you why you shouldnt worry, 101% of the time i had a bad feeling about a guy, i was right, so just trust your gut feeling, you have it for a reason.

>>647086602

Ahahaha this is beta bullshit. The girl is an adult and acting like one. People can have friends.

You are controlling m8; If you're so insecure that you think your girl is going to fuck every guy she hangs around with then its over for you.

Man up, have confidence in her not fucking other people - Maybe the issue you have is that you've cheated on her and you think thats normal behaviour?

Either way this is your issue, not hers.

To be honest, OP is in the right here. If she cared about you even a little she wouldn't put herself in a situation where she could easily cheat on you or will be pressured to. It's the same thing as if she goes home with a guy after getting drunk but she has no intention to fuck him. People here have had this situation many times and that thread is always filled with people saying to leave her. The fact is that she shouldn't be getting so close to cheating on you but not actually doing it. She obviously doesn't care about your own feelings about it because she knows it worries you.

Tl;dr fuck that bitch

>>647085621
A few points here.

1. OP is a betafag.
2. Break up with the cunt.
3. Post nudes on /b/
4. Win internet

Fuck anons, this wasn't rocket science. This was covered in your first day of /b/ training.

Captcha: commercial trucks, you could probably drive one up this whores snatch

>>647088888
Nice quints

Do you watch your girlfriend or track her movements 24 hours a day?
If not, then if she wants to fuck somebody behind your back, she will. Worrying about this one guy is obviously retarded.

>>647088865
>You are controlling m8; If you're so insecure that you think your girl is going to fuck every guy she hangs around with then its over for you.
Not every guy. I don't even think she's going to fuck this guy.
>then why are you worried?
I'm not worried. I'm pissed.

>>647085621
>well it's not like I'm going to fuck him
>that's basically her admitting she knows he's trying to fuck her

How the hell did you come to that conclusion? I feel sorry for this girl.

All you betas, OP doesn't have a gf. Nothing but faggots in this thread

>>647089006
You're pissed because you're worried that your insecurity of being cuckolded will become reality.

>>647089012
Because it was the first thing that came up when I asked her "why won't you stop seeing him for me?". Don't you think that's suspicious? She went right to "I acknowledge he's trying to have sex with me but I'm not going to let him." That's not a good basis for why I should tolerate their 'friendship'

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>>647088888
Czech'd

Juan is a cunt, if OP girlfriend likes Juan as a friend, OP's girlfriend needs to sort priorities out. Go be friends with a slut and see if girlfriend likes it.

OP might be fine with gf having male friends, just not male fucktard friends.

>>647089006
So you don't think she'll fuck him so whats the actual problem here? If your relationship can't take a little trash talk then its not very solid is it? Guess what girls get offered cock on a constant basis, almost every guy they meet would fuck them given the chance.

And yeah, you're worried. Maybe you call it pissed, but if you were actually pissed you wouldn't be on the internet bemoaning it you'd just be having it out with her and fixing it not looking for positive affirmation from a forum full of virgins.

>>647085621
I'd dump her- I want my gf to do what I say and if there's one dbag you don't want her to see she should respect you and what you want. It's different if you're being a controlling faggot, but I don't think that's what's going on here. That one guy isn't being appropriate and you can sense it; by arguing about it she is insulting you. Different people have different relationships, but for me- she's gotta listen because I take things seriously.

>>647088220
I have a girlfriend, just not a white girl. They play too many games, there's too many red flags and I have ever right and choice not to date the whores. They expect you to trust them, all while they do things that force you to drop any sort of conerns all in the name of trust, only for the slut to break that trust. Fuck white girls, all they're good for is sex, and don't tell me I can't get sex. It's easy, pussy has no value nowadays, so stop using an excuse that's now outdated.

>>647088888
so much this. She's pulling some psychological manipulation bullshit here and that's dangerous and childish.

>>647085621
Sadly, there is nothing you can do. You just have to see people for who they are instead of trying to change them. If she knows he wants to fuck and still hangs out with him, then she is the type of girl to do that type of shit and there's nothing you can do about it

I was in this situation 4 months ago and I broke up with my girl. It hurt like hell at first but it's the best decision I've made in a long time imo

>>647089386
This. Ask her how she would feel if you hung around a chick that was open about wanting you to leave your girlfriend.

If your gf says she genuinely wouldn't care, then you might just have different values, in which case you need to talk about that.

If she says she DOES care, hopefully she has enough integrity to not be such a childish, naive, selfish fucking cunt.

WORST case scenario she SAYS she wouldn't care but you don't believe her. In which case youve clearly got big trust issues. But never think that you having trust issues means that she is trustworthy.

Chances are if you have trust issues it's at least partly to do with people in your life being shitty.

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>>647088888
So much truth. You can tell by the quints.

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>>647088888
this nigga is right. sweet quints

>>647085621
just enjoy the warm hole and quit bitching.

>>647085621
Is it like a actual friend she's been friends with for a long time and they're just friends? If so OP your a controlling asshole. If it's some sleezebag asshole or some guy she recently met dump the bitch.

>>647085621
It's not like you're going to fuck your poster

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the guy sounds creepy as fuck... text me text me. Your girl is getting raped anon.

>>647085621
1) you're a petty beta douche.
2) there's no such thing as a platonic relationship, of course he would fuck her.
3) you're a petty beta douche.

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>>647085621
>naked lady poster
Girl friend or not just take that down. Have some dignity anon and keep porn on the computer.

leave her to juan. he knows

>>647085621

She will fuck him if she's not doing so already. If she even said "well, it's not like I'm going to fuck him", means that she thought about it.

Time to look for new bitches. You do not even need to break up with this bitch, just keep cumming inside her while you are looking for a replacement.

Anyway, they're all bitches and you're basically fucking everyone's hand me downs. There is no love in this world, cheating and whatnot is rampant.

Time to look for new bitches. She'll break up with you and she'll be riding him like a whore very soon.

Let me put it plainly, this is *the* hint that the bitch wants to break up with you. If you do not heed my words, then good luck when she dumps you and goes on to ride that guy 5 minutes later.

shes going to fuck him. thats literally the only reason why she's keeping him around, so that she has an excuse when it happens. "hes my friend" she'll say. "i started getting feelings". "i made a mistake", "lost control of my emotions". all excuses to make her feel better. and she'll do it again. and again. drop her now OP. don't enable her bullshit. please. before you end up in some serious pain and utter despair.

>>647086602
doing that is such a dumb fucking move. "prove to me!"
"what you don't trust me?"
your basically giving her another thing to complain about

>>647085621
Well it's not like you're going to fuck the poster either.

>>647088220
But he speaks the truth, it's only "controlling" because she can't get away with whatever the fuck she wants. Why would she be so angry at her own boyfriend unless he was calling her or if she was just looking for an excuse to do somebody else...

Happened to me. Don't be stupid

Best way to deal with it is to just hang out with her and him.

Apologize to her for being a controlling fuck, say you'd like to make it up to her by taking them both to dinner so you can get to know him better, since clearly he is her friend and you support her. Then be a perfect fucking gentleman the whole time, engage him in conversation, find common ground, develop a bond. When the hang out is done, say you had fun and that you guys should get together again soon. Then go home and take down your stupid fucking poster, child.

This will accomplish several things:
1.) It will start to redeem you in the eyes of your girlfriend. It will show her you're an adult and can own up to your mistakes (or what she undoubtedly considers a mistake).
2.) It will show her you're not a jealous child (protip: you are, but learn to fake it) and can accept that she has friends that may have a dick.
3.) It will show her you are interested in her friends and want to be part of her life, even if you don't necessarily like the friends.
4.) It will humanize you in the eyes of the other guy. If he sees that you're a nice guy, he'll start to develop guilt about trying to fuck you over.

If she says no to the three of you hanging out then she either doesn't care that much about the friend and you don't have to worry, or she doesn't want you too involved with the guy because she's worried you'll learn something.

Honestly though, either of those results are good. If she doesn't care that much about him then you know. If she's doing something shady, it'll come out eventually and you can end the relationship as the good guy. Right now, if you two break up, you are the controlling asshole who she couldn't stand anymore and you pushed her right in to the arms of another man. If she cheats on you and you're trying to be an understanding boyfriend and putting forth effort to connect, then she's the asshole who cheated on you.

>>647085621
Well, it's not like you're going to fuck the poster, right?

>>647088888
Slovak'd

>>647088888
Obey the quints.

Been through this, if it seems shady it most likely is.

>>647091681
The experience bleeda through this post. I'm sorry anon, we've all been there. Predictable cunts

>>647092140
>4.) It will humanize you in the eyes of the other guy. If he sees that you're a nice guy, he'll start to develop guilt about trying to fuck you over.
not necessarily. Hell, he might just get more motivation to best you in other ways than just being a creepy friend.

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>>647088797
Yeah, fuck that.

>>647092140
Nailed it. Either of their responses would be quite telling, especially if you brought it up in person to both at the same time. Get video/audio, post results.>>647092140

>>647085621
I'm not gonna fuck the poster

>>647085621
Break up with her if she's doing shit like this now it will only get worse

>juan

>>647088888
Checked

>>647087715
/thread

very honest and thoughtful reply. way to unto healthy relationship advice, i never see that on /b/

>>647085621

You're a controlling autist op, fuck your feelings.

I mean i only say something if dude is obviously trying to fuck. Still don't give ultimatums just point it out when he says stuff he shouldn't

Add me to the chorus of people here who think you're a beta faget, OP.

Dump her op I bet she's sucking juan's burrito right now

>>647092570
Sure, but he's already been talking poorly about OP, so OP's girl will remember that. If she cheats it's her fault and OP should deal with it then instead of being a pussy and worrying that she might.
>>647092615
Don't fucking bring it up to them. That's attacking both of them, together, at the same time. YOU become the common enemy. You'd give them more to talk about, and ammunition for him to say you're bad for her (protip: you are). Ask him about his hobbies, his family, his education, his likes, dislikes. Treat it like a date (minus the over the top flirting), like you're trying to impress him, and it will work out better for you.

>>647093169
"Ya that sounds friendly" and eventually she saw it my way

>>647088111
The concept of "respect" is a pretty made up term. If she feels it's disrespectful of you to plaster another woman on your wall, I think it's perfectly fair for you to take that down, if she then agrees to cut contact with that dude.

It's not a big deal. You're not more of a man because you never, ever, ever give her an inch. If she had pictures of big black dicks or something, you'd probably feel uncomfortable too, no?

This being said, if she keeps talking to a guy that's obviously trying to split you up, there's trouble abrewing, and you should calmly and clearly explain this to her. It's clearly wrong for her to do so. Ask if she'd be 100% fine if some chick kept hitting on you and trying to put a wedge between you. People don't understand what they're doing unless you flip it around on them.

In short, communicate and be reasonable, however boring and obvious that sounds.

>>647093173
Thank for support anon, and the other anon higher up. I was the first anon to post it. Can't believe all the fucking feels on this thread. /b/ has gone to shit!

men's intuation is a shitton times greater than a woman's. if this guy gives you a bad vibe it's for a reason. i'd say to just leave her. if she asks why? she just doesn't make you feel secure, and being insecure in a relationship you are not happy. i'm talking from experience. I was cheated on with the one guy i didn't want her to talk to. she never stopped talking to the guy. she wanted to make it work with me, and me being okay with them being friends. that just made me uncomfortable. life sucks, but I'm the happiest I've ever been in like two years which is when I started seeing her. both of you need to make each other feel secure. you are willing to take down the poster. she should be willing to stop talking to him.

Simple you find the guy kick his ass. Demonstrate that's your ho nigga

>>647086799
no, fuck you.

>>647093713
>if she asks why? she just doesn't make you feel secure, and being insecure in a relationship you are not happy.
This is the whiniest, childish bullshit I ever did see in this thread.

>Y-you just don't m-make me feel like a man femanon *sniff* :(
Jesus christ

@>>647085621

You guys make a shit couple. If you loved her, you'd take your prepubescent cosplay poster down, since it makes her uncomfortable. If she loved you, she would let her friendship with this dude slide, since she doesn't want to make you feel jealous. The fact it got to this point means both of you were unwilling to make sacrifices for the good of the relationship.

Your only option is to kill yourself.

@647086602
You sound like a school shooter.

to 647086762
Ditch that bitch, and find a true hitch

>>647086799
arf arf, on it, boss hog

for >647086896
terrible advice, he trusts her, she just needs to do what shes told.

>>647085621
You have a shit tier gf. Have fun with sloppy seconds, but just don't marry her

>>647085621
Your a dickhead. If women didn't talk to me who wanted to Fuck them women wouldn't talk to men

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>>647094119
stop trying too hard

>>647085621
dump her and get rid of the poster new chicks won't like it either. Shit belongs in the garage

Reading through this shit I can't believe how fucking brain dead you faggots are when it comes to relationship.

>Hurr durr put a leash on her
>she just needs to do what she's told
>It's okay to be a jealous little cuck


If you can't trust her as a person to stay loyal, it's already a shit relationship.

Trying to control her life is a very immature way of dealing with the situation.

Retreat, ignore, forget.

>>647094582
I don't have female friends. There's no benefit to being friends with a woman over a man. This is a conscious decision I make when I ignore requests to hang out, facebook invites and phone calls. I'll hang out with a friend and his girlfriend, but that's about it.

>>647090486
my ex had a guy she used to skype naked with before we met. everyone knew they were friends. everyone thought he was just hitting on her, and she was not giving him a chance. I never liked him, or her talking to him. I once went through her email and found out that they didn't stop skypping once we started dating. just because he was a "friend" from before OP started seeing his gf, it doesn't mean, it's nothing to worry about.

>>647094807
For the last time, I trust her not to fuck him. That's not the goddamn point. It's how he's some jackhole who is trying to paint me in a bad light towards her and she thinks this is fine. He has nothing on his mind other than to see her tits (which aren't great) or fuck her (she makes you use a condom so it's not even worth it). This is not a friendship. This is a sabotage situation she's enabling when she has plenty of real friends, guy friends I totally trust her with, and I know she wouldn't fuck them either.

This guy is a piece of shit and she even sees it but is taking offense to me telling her so.

>>647094807
If the guy we're dealing with is specifically and only trying to put a wedge between them, and is clearly hitting on her, I think it's disrespectful of her to have him ready in case you two split up.

Personally I'd probably want to meet him and casually shit all over him to show him who's boss, but that's just me.

>>647094853

Friends with benefits. They're all sluts. Just be sure to wear condoms, and ffs, do NOT eat her unless you want stuff to grow on your mouth.

She's going to fuck this guy or already is. Everyone in this thread that is calling op a faggot or beta for thinking this going to happen is just straight wrong and has been warped by feminism into thinking they have to let their gf do whatever they want to be a real man. Dump and move on.

>>647093169
yeah, don't give ultimatums. just break up.

>>647093991
what's a good reason to break up with someone?

if you are in a relationship it's to be happy. otherwise what's the point.

>>647095934
>implying problems can't be fixed
Who knows how this girl is. Maybe she's the woman of OP's life who's just not 100% perfect. Who is? If he calmly and clearly talks to her about this, without being a little pussy bitch, maybe they can solve this.

Personally I'd want to fuck with him and provoke him into a fight or into submitting so my girl could see I'm better than he is, but that's just me. Communication probably works better long term.

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>>647085621
Not enough information. It sounds like she could be manipulating you because she thinks she's found someone better and wants you to prove yourself. My ex girlfriend tried something like this. I responded by dumping her on the spot. She ran away with it, claiming I called her ugly, when in reality I thought her personality had become disgusting.

>>647088797
That would make me angry as fuck. Don't even tell her to stop talking to him. Tell her you're through. If she's willingly getting into that situation, then she's looking for excitement with other men by playing with their feelings. I'm fairly sure it'll lead to more as time goes on if she doesn't just stop now. GET RID OF HER BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.

>>647096374
what if she already fucked the guy?
can she unfuck him?

maybe you are a way greater man than I am who can get over that, but not all problems can be solved.

unfortunately I'm >>647095081
and if i didn't have the gut feeling that op is having i would have never found out. Everytime i see a hot girl out there. I'm glad I was like op. snooped around, and ended that relationship.

>>647085621
break up with her. You clearly have some very fundamental flaws in your relationship that cannot be overcome.

Im not even joking.

>>647096778
>maybe you are a way greater man than I am who can get over that, but not all problems can be solved.
Obviously not. OP said nothing about this. Are you going to advise him to dump the girl - without knowing anything at all about her apart from this specific thing - on the chance she's already fucked him? This might come as a surprise to you, but not all women are whores. I know, crazy. Just like not all men are douches.

>>647085621
She wants her back up dick to stay put. More so than keeping you happy. Send her packing.

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>>647096550
Oh, I forgot the most important part. Roughly a month after I dumped her, she came crawling back like nothing had happened! I guess I passed her shit test with flying colors... Either that, or she simply couldn't do better than me in one month of crying to all her orbiters.

>>647088797
Femanon here...dump her ass OP...if I was her in the situation I would stop talking to the faggot...I thought you were being controlling but that guy definitely has an agenda going one...she isn't respecting you or standing up for your relationship...your gf sounds like a needy bitch that loves attention...

>>647085621
She sounds abusive. Get out while you still can

>>647097075
how does one find if someone is being cheated on. I'll be the first one to admit that that relationship did a number on me, and now I have thrust issues.


but you can't go around thrusting everytone either. not all girls are whore, but a bunch of them are. sometimes the ones you don't expect it from.

the op's gut feeling has to come from a place.

if she's not willing ot even consider stopping talking to this guy i think there's an issue. she's not even putting it on the table. it's an absolute no for her.

>>647085621
dump her. If she really cared about the way you felt about it then she would've stopped talking to that dude. So just end it.

>>647097702
Pfft. "Thrust issues".

>>647085621
she likes the attention she gets from him, give her more attention, like tell her shes sexy and be affectionate, and fucking tear down that shit naked lady poster

">don't want to because it's not a real threat, it's a pin up slut"

are you fucknig twelve? if somethign makes your partner uncomfortable, you tell them to fuck yourself?

well guess what shes doing that to you, listen to what she wants and do it

be generally good to her and tend to her needs, and you will receive the love from her tenfold

>>647097968
i'm fucked in the head man. I don't know who wouldn't be after being cheated on on your first serious relationship. so many regrets, so many wishes. so many things I wish could be different.

as fucked as I'm in the head. I don't want anyone to ever be in my placce.

>>647097702
>the op's gut feeling has to come from a place.
OP said he was sure she hadn't fucked him. I don't trust gut feelings, depending on whose it is, I'm just saying.

And you obviously can't truly find out whether she fucked him or not. I just don't think you should automatically, regardless of the girl, advise someone like OP to dump his partner on the off chance she might've cheated on him. We don't know enough to make that call. If she's Ye Olde Faithful in literally everything, but just weirdly likes being hit on by this one extra orbiter dude, it'd be silly to drop her.

If for nothing else, then because that guy would probably consider it a win.

>>647097168

Wrong. I say, OP should keep fucking her until he finds another bitch.

They're all bitches anyway. Men should not be a beta fag and say shit like "but I love her". They're all the same. Face, tits, pussy. Face, tits, pussy.

Brother's girlfriend has two facebook accounts he is only friended on one the other he does not know the name of ...

i just plain out don't trust women

>>647098217
>you are the one who has to put all the effort in the relationship. she doesn't need to change anything.

>>647085621
She's cheating on you. Break up with her.

Guys and girls can't be friends. They're fucking. Or at the least she wants to fuck him or vice versa

>>647098266
Actually joking about the spelling. I agree with the content of your post 100%.

>>647098266
How old are you? if you're young it wasn't serious, and in a few years you might look back and see what you did wrong - before, after, or during the breakup or what led to it. I've been cheated on, and I see now I should've handled the entire situation way differently, and I've avoided similar situations, or dealt with them better, now that I've matured a lot from way back then.

Don't let one shitty situation scar you for life. Don't linger on that shit.

>>647098217
>if somethign makes your partner uncomfortable, you tell them to fuck yourself?
>implying OP's gf isn't doing the same to him
I guess OP has to put in all the effort in the relationship

>>647085621
One of two things is true, either you live in a strip club, or you are an immature manchild who decorated like he is still in middle school. That being said, this chick sounds dizzy. "It's not like I'm going to fuck him" but she is somehow worried you might fuck your wall? Which sounds like a bigger threat? I'd get rid of her, then I'd get rid of the poster and start decorating like an adult.

>>647098281
I was sure she was just leading that dude on too, and many times expressed that. I told her that by the way he was acting, her just talking to her was enabling, and thus leading him on.

oh boy. was i wrong. I wish she was just leading him on.

I did say that he should dump her. but I didn't mean that he should sent her a text as soon as he read my post. he should dump her if she can't even consider putting it on the table. or talk about it. absolute no's can't be good in relationship.

men have feelings too.

>>647098422
This!

>>647098937
You entire post is all fucked up, and no offense but you sound very young, so I don't think you should be passing off too many sage advice on relationships.

>>647098422
fucking man up and take responsibility, are you literally gona whine like a little child ??

"waah but you do this because i do that"

mentality like this is not fit for a healthy relationship ever, i promise you

>>647098754
same as this, but what i'd like to add, is someone has to step up and start forgiving and fixing things, instead of keeping up this toxic interaction like they seem to be having

tl;dr dumb kids cant have a healthy relationship

>>647093270
Negative, I'm suggesting he offer the dinner idea to them while the 3 are together. Besides that, I'm in agreeance.

>>647098937
In relationships, compromising on crucial ideas is fucking retarded. OP should dump her because she is very clearly okay with upsetting and undermining him.

woman being friends with male equates to cheating apparently in 4chan... stupid
she hasn't done anything wrong, it's only your damn imagination making up and assuming things. you have a problem with the guy, not her, so just talk to the guy

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>>647088888
Oh boy

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>>647085621
Op, this is NON-NEGOTIABLE. A woman with guy 'friends' is an unreliable and opportunistic whore who doesn't know her place in the grand order of things and is probably a feminist. Women like that are nothing but trouble and will give you grief later on down the line when you REALLY need to lean on them for support. Flaky and 'liberated' wimminz shouldn't be enabled. Leave her this instant, then hate fuck her and leave her again when she comes crawling back to you with regret in her whore eyes. Use a rubber. No telling what she has in mind.

>>647098735
keep in mind that we are on /b/ it's probably not that odd that I'm a late bloomer here, but for the outside world my first relationship happened pretty late. I'm 25 now. I started dating her when I was 23. I haven't seen anyone ever since. I don't have the money, the time, or anyone who interests me. at the same time I feel kind of old, and I'm a little bit scared of ending up alone. but I'm afraid I won't trust the next one for the wrong reasons. I'm afraid that if i do trust i might get cheated on again, and that I might just have to accept that becasue we live in a fucked up world. but like I said, how can you know if you are being cheated on? i didn't handle things in a way i wish I hadn't. I wish things have ended up earlier. I wish I had taken the chances I had when I was younger, so that my first relationship wasn't as fucked up. and maybe if I had done that I would have been with someone by the time I met this whore.

it was kind of serious. she was sleeping over pretty much in a daily basis. we talked about getting married and shit. another mistake i regret.

>>647095146
Sounds like you know what to do then, and this thread is just a feels circlejerk for the lot of us.

>>647085621
If you're worried about your girlfriend cheating on you with literally every guy she interacts with, maybe you should try not being a worthless pile of shit.

>>647099522
You fucking cuck. I bet you're also a 'male feminist' who supports 'womynz issues'. Die, you castrated putz.

>>647099195
non taken. OP might be young too, though. i just don't know he's not being a me in a different place of the world.

I am on the same boat as you but my story is much worse. I was backing up my gf's broken laptop when I found pictures of her posing with another guy as a couple. We were already dating for 5 months when those pictures were taken, gave her a call but she denied the whole thing and got mad at me; we broke up.
A week later she cried over the phone, begged me to hear her side of the story. We met up and she cried on my shoulder some more and told me that guy was her ex and she felt bad because he was all alone after the break up with no friends, so they went out a few times as "just friends". Also confessed that she only kissed him once and she was really sorry about it and only loved me. I bought her story and tears my biggest mistake..

Fast forward, I was snooping up her email to find this guy's number "cause she hadn't spoken to him over the phone for so long" accidentally found an email in deleted folder. Ten months into our relationship my gf was still calling this guy "babe" and he was supposed to pick her up from the airport when she came back from her euro trip.

Fast forward some more, I studied all her online accounts and call logs, apparently she had no clue you have to empty you delete folder manually.

Well in the end it turned out, it was more than just one kiss, they slept together. She cheated on me for almost 2 years straight until her ex left the city, and by that time our relationship was only 29 months old.

Her excuse: he said things that she wanted to hear, since I never shared my feelings with her, but she still loves me and wants to marry me.

BTW I had proposed her a month before the cheating scandal. Really dodged a bullet there, but we are still in touch and she still hopes I will give her that ring.

>>647100000

>>647088797
hang out with a lot of flirty women and promise her not to fuck them :)

>>647099965
LOL, OP is just being a fucking beta faggot that just wants some reassurance that the bitch isn't fucking the guy on the side.

Beta faggots always have to learn things the hard way.

Would be really funny if she got pregnant and the kid's Juan's. But he still marries her "out of love".ROTFLMAO. What a fucking beta faggoty cuck.

>>647100119
see? it's not only me. (fucked up in the head guy)

>>647085621
"I'm not trying to control you, I'm just don't like you hanging out with a guy who's objective is to bang you. If you feel your relationship with him is important enough to put a strain on ours, it shows what priorities you have, and I see now you're not relationship material and we should see other people." If you're not saying something like this you need to reevaluate your self respect and goals in life. She's actively ruining the concept of respect in a relationship by dramatizing your reaction and denying your concerns. Any reasonable person in a relationship would be able to objectively look at the situation and understand why it's causing problems. She's selfish, childish, and an attention whore. I'd trade up and stop picking spoiled fruit off the ground.

>>647088797
3 options
>Go to this fucjers face and tell him to fuck off, man to man.
>Dumb yo girl, she does shit like this she doesn't deserve to be yo girl
>continue this beta shit

The time for action is now

>>647099522
You know by now it's not the ring she wants, it's the security you'd bring her with your paycheck, right? I'm sorry you went through that, but I'm grateful you seem wiser for it.

>>647089461
I agree!!!

>>647100664
Tone it down a few notches, being obnoxious is no way to help someone learn.

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>>647100664
Sad but probably true. Tut tut, Op. When are you beta cucks gonna man up?? What's it gonna take, eh? A royal ass-rapin in divorce court where she takes you to the cleaners? You sad piece of malarkey you.

>>647085621
OP, you're on the losing side. Coming from a reasonable/moralfag, take down the poster and let her have a friend. I had a close friend freshman in high-school who had a boyfriend, which was a complete prick to me because I was friends with her. I still hate him to this day. Unless you are 1000000% sure she is cheating on you, let her have a buddy.

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>>647100705
Nope, it's not the guy's fault. It the bitch's for humoring him and keeping him around as a """""friend""""". She is the vector of the disease of infidelity. Eradicate HER from your life.

>>647088450
Wow. this was some complete and utter BULLSHIT. shut the fuck up you dumbass.

>>647091681
also something else; never, i repeat, NEVER wait for someone to change for you. do not fall in love with what they could be, do not fall in love with their potential. if someone does something you dont like, reasonably cut them off. its not controlling. it isnt immature. you have to set up standards in your life for how you want people to treat you, unless you want to be stepped on your entire life. dont be a rug, be a man. know what you want in life. know what you don't want. do what needs to be done and everything will settle into place. good luck OP

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>>647101196
Op, listening to traitorous beta eunuchs like this one is gonna destroy ya. Never compromise when it comes to wimminz. It's either your way or NUTHIN'. If she loves you she'll put up with martial law. If not then you just dodged a bullet. Win win, eh?

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>>647100119


im in a similar situation too.
my girlfriend cheated on me all throughout our relationship with a and i only found out a year and half into our relationship.
Which just happened to be 3 days after my dad died.....

Her excuse?...... "You were depressed and distant"
What did you expect bitch my father was dieing slowly of a fucking brain tumour.


Dont trust women. pretend you do but never actually do.

I regularly speak to about 10 or so women and i can honestly say only about 1 has never cheated on anyone.

Fuck em and then chuck em.

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>>647102573
PUMP AND DUMP. Fist bump, compadre. I feels ya.

>>647101099
He doesn't want to learn, he is just looking for reassurances from /b/, seeing how he defends her every time.

I *TRULY* can't wait for him to read her emails/SMSes. LOL. That beta faggy cuck is in for *THE* shock of his life.

>>647085621
OP you're a major faggot. Not only could you have told her you weren't gonna fuck the pic but you're being cucked by a spic

>>647102573
exactly. all these faggots saying "wow ur so controlin lel wat a beta male" are people who have never actually dealt with women before in a relationship. you either have standards or she fucks every guy on the road. women have a completely different definition of love then guys do, completely different needs than we do. what seems like betrayal to you is just her "feeling trapped".

>>647097247
the phantom sides

>>647085621
What the fuck does a poster has to do with a dude? If a my girl would say "if you loved me you'd do this, this, this and this" id show her the door. Being in a relationship is not taking/giving it's accepting the other partner like it is. She's just a bitch OP.

>>647088959
Wtf, you got trucks? All I ever get is street signs and pie that's not pie

>>647094853
Completely true, no reason to have other-gender friends; this wasn't normal 50 years ago

the thing about naked lady posters is that they picture an ideal image in most cases: a beautiful woman with big ol tiddies and a little waist. it makes her insecure, because she knows she isn't the pinnacle of attraction to you when you acknowledge that women like this are out there. it's not really rational and she knows that, but insecurity can be triggered by silly things like that.

if you tell her she can't have someone as a friend it just makes you an asshole no matter what way you chop it up.

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>>647085621
Noice quints m8
>Quints don't lie OP

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>>647103275
Or it's her ""exploring her sexuality"", which is female shorthand for being a rudderless whore. Ditch the cunt, Op. She's damaged goods, bro. Pick a winning hoss, not a raggedy nag.

>threatened by poster
>no empathy when she flirts with others guys

she's a bitch OP. downgrade her into a constant fuck supply. stop caring.

in this feminist bs world you saying anything will make you wrong and her fucking him like every dumb women train of thought to get back at you is celebrated.

>>647085621
The posters just a piece of paper and what are you 13 with posters on your wall? The guys her friend. Get rid of your gross poster and don't interfere with who she's friends with.

If she cared about him she'd stop talking to that dude. You may sound "controlling" but u shouldnt have to ask her to stop talking to people that wanna out their penis in her

If you're worried about your girl cheating on you with a guy who is her friend then you're obviously insecure about yourself and don't think you're good enough to keep her. That or you know you're dating a whore who would cheat on you. Either way you're a fag.

>>647102573
i found out about my whore the day after my grandma died.

ok OP. listen carefully. start talking to other girls, but keep your girlfriend. don't tell the other girls. tell the new girls you are looking for "the one" (because ultimately you are. that's why you are dating your current gf) do the same shit she is, and if she calls it off, you've already made plans. there are plenty of fish in the seac and there's one that loves you just the way you are.

>>647104209
The thing about the bitch entertaining creepers is that the bitch picture herself riding them in most cases: an alpha male with big cock and a little skill.

All the shit you said can literally be turned around, but you'd just say "man up" or some shit.

You are one fucking pathetic beta cuck.

Or just a feminist, in which case, it is completely understandable.

Tear down the poster show her you did it, then dump her

>>647085621
Had similar experience a few years ago

>qtpi gf w/ low self asteem
>tells me she likes me
>Im a sweetie, so we end up going steady
>slowly building up her self asteem bc she deserves as much
>Eventually she feels good about herself enough to be more outgoing
>Self image turns into vanity
>Begins loving attention more than she loves me
>I have trouble trusting her due to past indiscretions
>Asshole high school guys hit on her regularly now
>She eats that shit up

>>647085621
Dump that bitch. Bad news yo. Either sleep around or find someone who would give up anything for you and who you would give up anything for.

>>647104608
Feminist butch dyke trans-fat monkey-kin agender Jabba the Hutt detected.

>>647088797
OP i hate to break it to you but he wants to fuck her, and she knows it and gets excitement from the fact, women are weird creatures. If she knew him before you got together she probably already fucked him. That or he is waiting to make his move on her. No guy wants a bitch as a "friend" there is always something attached. Unless said guy is a queer.

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>>647103275
>women have a completely different definition of love then guys do

>>647085621

lol fucking insecure

Your girl was probably considering cheating on you long before she met him

>>647086641
Please. Her inability to ditch a guy who is clearly making advances on her just shows that she's either still looking for outside attention and will probably cheat on him, or trying to get a rise out of him. Either way, bad news and not someone you want to be in a relationship with.

>>647105006
iktf

never trust women or see them as companions. all of them are whores. even the "sweet" ones. they'll leech off your personality and social status and once they think they're better than you they'll stomp on your heart and shit on everything you had for some loudmouthed asshole. helping women in any sort of way is the dumbest meme ever.

>>647102573

Sorry to hear that bro, your story is even worse than mine!

These bitches just live in their own little bubble. They can even justify being unfaithful to you as long as they believe that you've hurt their feelings. But they never have the balls to own up to their mistakes, somehow its always guys fault.

My bitch's initial excuse for the cover up was that I wasn't going to understand her "special" friendship with her male buddy.

Thankfully technology came to the rescue, and I discovered her friendly chat logs with her buddy *sigh*

>>647085621
if she doesnt respect you enough to understand why you don't want a guy thats hitting on her to be her friend, and how her fucking him is a much more real possibility than you fucking your poster, then she is a controlling dramatic bitch and you need to dump her. its litterally as simple as that

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>>647085621
cont.
>Eventually ask her to tell them to lay off, because I see photos on FB that make me uncomfortable of her with said assholes
>She treats me like Im being a psycho
>She was too self centered to see where I was coming from
>I, myself, loved her dearly and gave her all my attention
>mfw it wasn't enough
>she lets the boys keep flirting, saying its harmless
>I slowly withdraw from her
>stop giving her my attention
>was quickly replaced by friendzoned asshole
>called it

>>647088888
Quints don't lie, tl;dr, fuck that bitch

>>647085621

> I have a GF
> she is friends with a guy

nope. For those who have not learned this life lesson yet, it don't work that way.

same goes for guys too.

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>>647105006
I commiserate but serves ya right. You should never put her on a pedestal. Oppress her self-esteem and criticize her looks every now and then. Women need an iron fist in a velvet glove, aka guidance and tough love. If you give them too much, guess what, THEY WILL TAKE TOO MUCH.

>>647085621
You have a naked lady poster; if you're an adult your opinion is automatically invalid.

Not even siding with your cunt girlfriend. Just pointing out that you have no taste and the mind of a twelve year old.

>>647088855
"Take down this photo of a randi you never met."
>adult

>>647105862
story author here, youre wrong. There is nothing wrong with treating a woman like you would treat a good friend. Especially if youre in love. The trouble comes when you put your heart into a 17 year old girl, who knows only her attention seeking behavior. With maturity, a grown ass woman will strengthen you as much as you do her.

Be honest. And give up the poster no hassle about it. And apologize regardless of wrong doing.
"Dude looks like a predator. Sounds like a predator and needy. I just care about you not being a victim to him. I don't even care about this poster. Sorry I flipped out, I guess I just don't know how to control my emotions. I'm just saying I care about you is all"

>>647105862
even after the indiscretions, I havent given up hope on women. I honestly love women, as much as a resent them I cant seem to renounce them. And its not because of my dick, either. Its because there is a valuable companion out there for me, and props to us if we fuck too. The key is being a grown ass man about it, instead of a needy little boy. Likewise, find a grown ass woman instead of an attention seeking little girl.
Preached it, son.

>>647105531
adding:

you will never get gratitude or love for leveling with them. never ever do that, being understanding or having something in common makes them actually hate you. maybe women just hate themselves

>>647106264
lmao even 45 year old women are still attention drama sluts. they're just better liars about it. they literally cannot understand noble concepts like reciprocity and loyalty because everything has been handed to them since birth

>>647092140
Worst advice

>>647085621
Let her know you're gonna start hanging out with your female "friends". Then see how that pans out. Can't go wrong from there; she either stops hanging out with the guy or you break up with a girl who is bound to cheat on you.

>>647105531
Couldn't have said it better myself.

>>647085621
I wouldn't date this chick then. She is knowingly hanging with a guy that wants her only for the attention he gives. This is also cheating to me because she is using him to fufill something she isn't getting from you. And one time you'll piss her off so much she may,well fuck him.

>>647092140
>hang out with her and him
>actually showing you are fine with it
>trying to befriend someone who hates your guts and wants to bang your girl

lol top advice for a cuck

>>647105531
once they are better than you?

my whore cheated on me because she thought I was too good for her, and eventually leave her.

>>647106264
LMAO. Never. They're *ALL* whores looking for a better alpha male until they hit the wall. By that time, even YOU would not want her and her loose snatch.

That guy is absolutely right.

Your train of thought will only get you more heartaches and cucked more. LOL. Have fun with that, faggot.

>>647106644
Not all 45 year old women are "grown ass women." Sounds to me like you got your hands on a bit of an unworthy cunt. Yea, she's sexy, but she'll eat ya alive.

>>647085621
Stop being a dickless douche, and let her have her friends. If she fucks this dude, then dump her ass. Just mentally prepare yourself now, that your relationship will not work.

Especially if you come here asking halp

>>647085621
So basically, you're so insecure that trying to tell her who she can and cannot be platonic friends with, but you're mad because she's asking you to take down a piece of paper that you have up for no other reason than that you find it sexually attractive?

This is so idiotic that it has to be b8. No one is this dumb.

>>647106264
What absolute rot. You should only graduate a relationship to love and respect after you've evaluated the woman as wife material. And guess what? If you're a wimpy beta cuck who lets the bitch run circles around you or gives her everything she wants without exerting control over her, you will NEVER find a woman who will respect you as a man. Women are like children, just like Schophenauer said.

>>647085621
Invite them both over and kick his ass then tell him "If I ever see you around my bitch again, I'll rip your throat out of your neck you fucking faggot."
Your dumb bitch will be so smitten at the fact that you're not a betafag, she'll forget all about the poster.

>>647106992
>I was too good for her

lol obvious lie. if you are better than they are socially or financially that's never the real reason. no women ever thinks in their entire life "I don't deserve this" it just doesn't happen

>>647107216
majority of them still act like they're in highschool well into their middle age. you're obviously a clueless virgin who has never listened in to a "just the girls" conversation

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>>647093102
beta provider faggot

>>647107337
Go ahead and quote some cynic, I'll keep my hope. Otherwise I'll fall into the lonely weekend warrior cycle, fucking useless women until I catch VD, and subsequently going through midlife by myself. Dying alone at 55. Is that what you want, Dr. Love?

>>647106993
You're either inexperienced or have had bad luck. I'm 35 and I have friends who have been with their partners for 20 years or more. I am not even going to count all the older couples I know that have been together for practically their whole lives.

You might want to do a little inward searching and see if you might be the cause of your problem, rather than all the women in the world.

>>647106640
You're picking the wrong ones, CUCK. And even if you pick the right ones, you're turning them into raging viragos and hormonal banshees by being such a gelded weakling little spineless shit. But go right ahead, Joe. See if I care!

>>647107631
Not a virgin, and certainly not clueless. I've been through a few good relationships, with good women. The kind who reciprocate affection and respect. Its a shame it didnt work out, but its not because all girls are the same. I mean, c'mon guys. You hear bitches say that shit about us, and ya know it ain't true. Clearly, it ain't true. Look at me vs. you.

Cut his feet off. Excellent.

>>647085621
It seems counter-intuitive, but the key to getting a girl to not cheat is to be incredibly relaxed about her hanging around other guys. When you tell her not to see another guy, you say to her "I am weak and scared he is better than me and that you will leave me for him." On the other hand, if you offer drives, don't give a shit about the guy and treat him like he's a non-threat, she sees that you're someone valuable and that you're confident that you're better than him, so you're not scared of her being around him. At this point, you've fucked yourself. She will have a "girl's night" soon and won't come home because she's got buddy's cock in her asshole.

>>647103275
>what seems like betrayal to you is just her "feeling trapped"

Jesus Christ, the betafags are out in force!

>>647092140
Honestly dude this is your answer.

>>647107834
The wrong *one*. You mean.

I learned from her, and I adapted. Doesn't mean I gotta go gay cause you fags hate women.

>>647107705
I wouldn't piss on fire to put you out, Op. After defending that cunt like you just did, I wouldn't care if you lived or died a slow lingering death. Have fun with the child support, cuck.

>>647107337

>Marriage

top cuck

>>647108128
Yep this. Girls are attracted to confidence in general. As soon as you start whining about her spending time with another guy, she will instantly start to consider you weaker than that guy and whatever attraction she had for him will be amplified. And she won't forget it either, it will be in the back of her mind when she is with any other male.

>>647092140
100% she'll just think that guy is better than you if you do something as stupid this then cheat and leave you

jesus christ literally the dumbest reddit bullshit I've read in a relationship advice thread

Theres this board called /adv/ice you know..

>>>>adv

I found OP's gf's Facebook but no Juan to be seen on her list?

>>647085621
then you say the same thing back, equal or nothing. if she doesn't agree to be equal than just move onto the next one. shits only gonna get worse as time goes on

>>647088797
just cheat on her

>>647085621
Well its not like you are going to fuck the poster.

>>647088888
>verified

>>647107834
Jesus, dude. You don't know the first thing about that guy. Looks to me like you want to assert your "alpha" bullshit over the internet. Looks equally desperate. You're probably a chode.

>>647108598
>just let women do what they want and say nothing
get cucked
>try to get understood as a human being and voicing a rational worry
get cucked

lol thanks betafags and feminism

>>647103512
you've been watching too many movies little newfag

OP I would talk to Juan face-to-face, he'll tell your gf you spoke to her, tell beaner boy you don't want him messing around, and be dominant. Your gf will be told and you can respect her opinion, take down your poster, and you can make up after she realizes you feel he's a threat. This, or get a flirty girl to understand the situation to make your gf realize it's unconfortable, then explain it was a setup

>>647108048
you're still insanely clueless

>>647108503
hahahaha, got enough hate for women to hate anyone who respects the good few. Why don't you end it now, fuckface? Might as well kiss love goodbye. Whats really left? You gonna roll in your income by yourself for the rest of your life, you stagnant piece of shit?

>>647088853
listen to this guy, he said it right!

>>647086762
This. Stop being a faggot OP

>>647107216
Ok gents, I'm 44, and I can tell you most 45 yr olds are broken the fuck down! Completely rekt! There are RARE, RARE exceptions. The woman I'm currently dating is 22. Never even considered dating someone so young. She hit on me. Kinky too. She has anger issues so she's already a FWB in my mind, but I'll fuck her till I'm tired of it or meet someone better.

>>647108930
your theory is flawed friendo, if you make a big thing out of it you show weakness, the best answer here is to not give a fuck and hang out with other girls who want your dick, wait till she says something about it and have a mighty good time

>>647108598
Women have too much liberty. That's why you should always pick one from some third world shithole. Make sure she's felt the lash of the whip, of poverty or hunger sometime in her life. Keeps the bitches honest. So then you won't have to worry about whore politics or about what she 'wants'. What's important is what YOU want. And that is order, peace and a consenting mate.

OP this post is from 2012
Why are you getting worried now?
If their relationship has been going this long then they've either come close to or the have slept with each other.

>>647109150
Oh, and whats the clue, bruh? Trust your boys and fuk all the honeys until you get fat and have to live alone while all your "boys" are out not being sons of bitches?

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>>647085621
sort of on topic.

>gf starts working at new job a few months ago
>last nite works late
>gets home later than usual
>gave a coworker a ride home after work
>coworker is a dude
>gf only specifies coworker was a male when i assume its another girl
>mfw

am i overreacting or was this not cool? even if she didnt do anything, that couldve been dangerous right?

>>647109396
>if you make a big thing out of it you show weakness
you see this only happens when you are dealing with someone without empathy. which is what women are.

not giving a fuck only works if you're with a bitch you hate or want to get rid off. if you even have any sort of attachment her slutting around will gnaw at your heart.

>>647109655
Completely, that's not cool

>>647105014
Don't you think his girlfriend might be a little concerned if he's got pornographic material on his wall? Like if that's how he gets off what's to say he won't just rape her one day if he's so obsessed with sex and unconcerned with the actual person.

Haha I did fuck her though, last Wednesday night.

>>647109655
Pfft. "A *RIDE* home" may also include "a hot and wet ride to heaven and back".

>>647109591
pursue girls but never really care about them as people

only give enough validation to keep them around

never ever see them as companions no matter how much the world forces the dumb meme

being alone is a step up to the increasing likelihood a girl will take half your shit, break your heart after investing so much into her, socially assassinate you for some frivolous reason and leech your money for 18 years

>>647109805
thats the original point; dont get attatched to whores too much