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Why does the world have time zones?
It makes more sense to have one time all over the world, we could all use a 24 hour clock and get rid of all this am/pm bullshit. During Christmas in the Southern Hemisphere its summer and nobody is confused, why do we still have such a retarded time system?
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Bumping for answers
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Anybody have any ideas? Tradition or retardation?
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>>646802717
Because of countries being countries / they want
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Because the earth is round you fick fookin idgyit
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>>646803203
Huh?
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>>646802717
If we had one single time zone for Earth, noon would be the middle of the day in some places, but it would be morning, evening and the middle of the night in others. Since different parts of the Earth enter and exit daylight at different times, we need different time zones.
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>>646803350
Troll much.
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>>646803351
Yep basically OP is a retard for not realizing this
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>>646803351
Yes but 'noon' is only 'noon' because of the time zones. If we all went on a twenty four hour clock it wouldn't be necessary
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>>646802717
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time

The world does have one time (the time in london). Its just that people want local time zones so its not dark at 12:00.
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Timezones originated as a way to tell longitude. Latitude was easy because the earth has poles with a defined equator, but no one knew how to tell how east/west while at sea. they set the prime meridian (0 degrees longitude) to the position of dublin, england, and decided that that was the first time zone.
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>>646802717
It started with Railroads in the US. Before implementing the time zone system, each town or village would set it's clocks to noon when the sun reached it's zenith over that town. So if you traveled to the next town or two down the road, your watch would be off a little or a lot, depending on distance. <cont>
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>>646802717
Then there would be no normal time for things. Like noon is a common time for lunch, but it wouldn't be without time zones. Imagine celebrating new years at a fucked up time. Happy new year! Wtf, it's an hour until sun rise, let me sleep.

I'm a software dev and I hate time zones. They really complicate my life.

Are you aware of unix time stamps? They are awesome. It's the same time everywhere in the universe.
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>>646803707
Yes! The GMT. Countries just add + whatever they want (GMT +7 in pacific etc) but in greenwich is the real coordinated time.
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>>646803554
Of course I realized this, what I'm saying is there's no need to have a 'noon' be in the middle of the day. Midnight would be noon on the other side of the earth, having no time zones would simplify everything and you wouldn't have two separate days happening at the same time
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>>646803615
Same thing. People like waking up at 07:00. They don't want to wake up at 18:00.
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>>646803351
my, my anon. you're quite the dense one aren't you?
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>>646802717
Because I said so, you cheeky cunt.
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>>646803897
>>646803934
>>646803944
These are good answers.
Thanks anons for clearing that up
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>>646802717
zulu bro
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>>646803946
It would make things like calling someone on the phone more difficult though. "Can I call Paris now, or will they be asleep?"
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>>646802717
>>646803897
If you are trying to run a railroad on a certain schedule, adjusting your schedule for each and every little town would be a big pain in the ass. So the Railroads divided the continent into zones and set them an hour apart.

Greenwitch Mean Time is the -navigational- standard. And here in the US, Eastern Standard Time is 5 hours behind GMT. GMT wasn't really used to create time zones until a while later when it became the Zero Mark for time, as well as navigation.
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It really is about our circadian rhythm that we are used to. If you really want to have a single time zone, all people in the world will disrupt their circadian rhythm people.
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>>646804768
No it wouldn't.
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>>646804768
Have you ride a plane before?
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>>646804389
This is an awful answer, the only reason we have lunch at noon is because its's noon when we have lunch. it's the other way around you fuckin ping pong
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>>646804974
kekekekekekek
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>>646804974
I know I meant to click of the longitude /latitude while at sea answer
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>>646804974
You don't think it would be fucked up to be watching a tv show and they are like "11:00 pm, time for lunch?"
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>>646805328
Or when travelling, if you always eat lunch at noon you'd want to still eat lunch at noon. You don't want to have to use Google to figure out when you should be eating lunch.
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>>646805328
Nope. You only think that its fucked up because we are used to eat at 12:00 - 1:00 PM.
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>>646805328
>>646805328
It only seems fucked up because we have time zones right now, if they didn't exist then 'noon' or midday would be relative to you position on earth and you'd be used to it if it were at 11 pm
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>>646805328
one, it wouldnt be 11, it'd be 23. And two, no it wouldn't if that's simply how the world worked it's only "fucked up", as you put it, now because we run on timeszones
>you fuckin ping pong
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>>646805328
Just like riding a plane from west to east. You don't have to rely on time when you wanna eat lunch.
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Should I start a petition to get rid of time zones? This shit isn't necessary
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>>646805724
You'd never understand the context. "It's *insert time* will you please shut up!" If you hear that line on a tv show you have no idea how bad it is. Are their neighbors being loud at 10:00 pm? 2:00 am? You don't know. You lose a lot of context by not knowing what time of day it is.
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>>646806143
Start. Why not?
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>>646805944
you eat lunch whenre youre hungry autist
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>>646804742
I think the inner conflict OP is having with this, is generated from this example's reasoning. We invented timezones to decomplexify train schedules. But train schedules are a primitive system, and with the infrastructure of the Internet, it would be easy to teach everyone to use universal coordinated time as mean solar time for day-to-day living. Maybe parallel to timezone usage, to maintain geolocation awareness.

It's about spacetime, and unfortunately we needed to divide the surface of the Earth for convenience. Really, there's no reason not to, since we keep atomic time for unified calculation otherwise. It's convenience, OP, because human time-keeping is relative anyways.
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>>646803351
OP is suggesting people drop the time number association with position of sun. Just have the number be the number regardless for the whole planet.
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>>646805825
You're a moron. 11 or 23, it's the exact same thing.
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>>646806200
You'd be able to tell they're trying to sleep because of how dark it is fool. You're thinking in a time zone restraint world. We don't need to live like this
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>>646806277
Lunch at dinner time? wat?
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>>646806399
not if your using a 24 hour clock
>ya ping pong
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>>646806399
nice b8
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>>646802717
Why is there even time? Why not just sleep?
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>>646806778
>muh natural biological rhythms
Fucking dirty hippie.
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>>646806252
I'm doing it. Fucking sick of am/pm
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>>646804888
>ride a plane
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>>646806363
But as I've pointed out, that information is very useful. "He asked to come watch a movie, but it was X!" "Is X late there? Yeah. It's like... close to bed time." With time zones we always know without asking.

Further, there are complications from having days not line up with human days. For example, Christmas is a statutory holiday. Imagine if a statutory holiday ran from 2pm Wednesday to 2pm Thursday. How fucked up would that be? Would you come into work for Wednesday morning and Thursday afternoon?
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>>646807019
what else would you do with a plane..?
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>>646806303
Yes I think we've moved past the need for it though. Going to start a petition to change this horse shit system. No more 2 days happening at once
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>>646807246
Bernoulli's principle, buoyancy, lift, thrust, drag, weight, pressure, atm, psi, pascal. etc.
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>>646807246
Jet engine can't melt steel beams.
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>>646806453
What? I read stories on here all the time.
> sneak out at 2am
And
> sneak out at 2pm
Are very different. I can't see if it's dark outside, I'm reading a story, I'm not psychic
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>>646807135
but if everybody just simply knew universal time, as one knows what time is close to betime, then it would be just as convenient
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>>646807135
Don't get me started on Christmas anon
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>24 hour clock
>not wanting decimal time
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>>646802717
Why does the world have different monetary currencies?
It makes more sense to have one type of currency all of the world, we could ass use one type of currency and get rid of all this foreign exchange bullshit. During Christmas in the Southern Hemisphere people buy with the same coins and nobody is confused, why do we still have such a retarded currency system?
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>>646807019
Changing the time shown on a clock wouldn't fuck with anything. Flying across the world and adjusting my watch are two completely different things.
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>>646807704
Great point
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>>646807704
Because they have different fiscal policy, monetary, economic, commercial, political. Should I go on?
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>>646807704
then countries with poor regulation would just print a fuck ton of money, therefore devaluing it
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>>646807559
What? I don't understand what you're saying. In universal time bedtime would vary from place to place.
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This is honestly the stupidest thread I have ever seen. Who are the retards that cant add and subtract anything under 24, seriously.

Another point, by removing time zones, the concept of the 24 hour clock becomes irrelevant, the reason its 24 hours is because there are 24 our in a day at any specific latitude. If you have a universal clock for for every latitudinal point on the earth then time becomes meaningless. oh, its 4 am in paris, you woudnt have any context as to what time of day it would be in any given region. retarded thread, kill yourself.
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>>646807927
>>646807704
essentially we cant do this because of corrupt african/asian/south american niggerss/slants/spics
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Do you even euro ?
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>>646802717
You should be asking the opposite. How come we don't use exact mean solar time as each individual's 'time'? That would require pinpointing geolocation data for each clock, and would throw a fucking monkey wrench into human time-keeping and scheduling. But, coincidentally, Google just did this for all of its servers for perfect time synchronization. It's called Spanner, look it up. Why don't humans do this? Everyone already has an atomic-synced clock on them. Fuck timezones, GPS-atomic-synced time is the future.
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>>646807704
Many countries need their own currency so that they can print more.
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Sunlight is vastly important to human life.

Everyone must receive daylight.
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We are asking the wrong question. What is "time"? then we would know WHY ONE TIME ZONE IS IRRELEVANT.
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>>646808272
Daylight time savings dude
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>>646808114
Explain what this is.
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>>646808232
Then increase their inflation.
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>>646808403
...isn't a thing for most of the people on planet earth
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>>646807704
retarded point, every nation would be subject to the fiscal and monetary policies of other nations.
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>>646808272
I don't think he's saying everyone should wake up at the same time. Just that everyone's watch should read the same time.
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>>646808043
You're missing the point anon
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>>646808338
Any and/or no timezones both/either/neither is and/or is not irrelevant. Fuck off with your armchair pedantry.
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>>646808587
Exactly
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>>646808491
That makes zero sense.
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>>646808593
Except I'm not, I'm being pragmatic, not fagmatic.
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>>646808682
>>646808682
Inflation results when a nation’s central bank creates more money than its public wants to hold, and deflation occurs when a central bank creates too little.
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>>646808457
>It's called Spanner, look it up.
Does your fucking mother read to you at night too?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Google+Spanner
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>>646808457
>you have phone
>phone tell you exactly what time it should be in exact spot you stand on earth
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>>646808871
I know what inflation is, but your use of the word in this context makes absolutely no sense.
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>>646809033
>idonthaveone
>phonedoesn'ttellmecuzidon'thaveone
>nokiaFTW
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To keep you distracted from whats actually going on in the real world. You probably don't know it but you're being brain washed every day.
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It would be so weird being like "I got up at 17"
"I got up at 2"
What
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>>646809192
you asked, dipshit
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>>646809033
> should
I understand what the definition of should is there, but it's wrong.
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>>646809088
Many countries need their own currency so that they can print more.Then increase their inflation. Its part of what I commented on the other person.
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>>646808848
Please explain how time would be meAningless
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>>646809339
I'm not the one asking. I'm a third person
>ThirdPerson
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>>646808871
absolutely not true, there are different types of ifnlation, demand pull and cost push, which are when aggregate demand expands, and when aggregate supply deflates respectively.
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>>646809234
Not really. Only seems weird because of the time zone system we have now. Everyone would know x time would be morning based in geographical location
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>>646808924
I actually asked because I was 99% sure you completely misunderstood what it was and I wanted you to explain what you thought it was.
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This is literally the most retarded thread I've seen on /b/ thanks for the keks idiots
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>>646809746
basic inflation (making more money=increasing inflation) dude. Not talking about law of sup. and dem. etc.
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>>646809867
Mmhm. Speak on that
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You don't want midnight to be early in some places and late in others. Then the word loses its meaning.
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From a thread about time to economy. TOP KEK.
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>>646809455
Because 12:00 wouldn't mean anything, it could be anytime of day, noon? Dusk? Morning? How are you people not seeing this?
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>>646810075
Exactly. We don't need this am/pm shit anon
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>>646809843
But you'd need to know both their location and where it is. Just reading a comment or watching a tv show I often have no idea where they are, and even if they did mention it, I wouldn't always know exactly where that is.
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>>646809445
I see. I took your comment to mean "in a system of a global currency if a country printed more currency we would respond by increasing their inflation".
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>>646810131
It only means noon or midday now because of the time zones, if there were none we could determine midday based on geographical location
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>>646807246
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>>646810237
Therefore this would be benefitial to all. Especially Americans who would be forced to learn basic geography
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>>646810497
But midday is based on on your geographical location, as in, its 12 at your specific latitude.
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This thread!
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>>646810075
no it wouldnt, the words relation to a specific time would simply be changed
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>>646810497
But you often aren't provided that. Reading a green text story with
> wake up at 1 pm
Would need to become
> wake up at 1 pm in London, Ontario, Canada
And the reader would need to know enough about London, Ontario, Canada to understand. Did this guy wake up at a normal time? Did he sleep in? It's now a huge chore to find out. Plus the guy is telling an embarrassing story and wouldn't want to reveal personally identifiable information like where he lives.
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>>646810846
No one is learning the entire planet's geography just to understand time context better
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>>646811069
People would have to think more. And location would help context. What's the harm ?
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>>646809848
Spanner is Google's distributed semi-relational SQL and storage database that uses a proprietary data transport protocol that nearly eliminates overhead, and all child servers are independently synced to GPS time using hardware GPS systems and a direct line to the nearest atomic clock -- and calculated for latency. It's the largest and most near-perfectly time-synced communications system on the planet. Next question?
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This thread gave me cancer. I should book an appointment, 6 ok? Is that late? Who knows.
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>>646811229
Because of our fucked up time zones system. How does it make sense that it's two days happening at the same time. There should be one universal time
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>>646810976
having a discussion about the use of time on earth < calling people nigger faggots
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>>646811527
Hahahaha
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>>646811382
How does that have ANYTHING to do with your original post where you brought it up? The clocks are synchronized. That has nothing to do with solar time or time zones. Time zones are for display to humans.
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>>646811602
It's Monday local time here and Tuesday local time there. That makes just as much sense as anything.
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>>646811382
>you just looked that up
>that's not your thoughts at all
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>>646812182
Yea you're right. This thread was a huge waste of time I started on a half baked discussion idea
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>>646811942
That doesn't change the fact that we could greatly benefit from localized GPS time synchronization. You don't actually have any idea how fucked up Russia and Australia's time zones are, do you? Here, I'll help you with this one, since you obviously have a fucking learning disability.

https://youtu.be/uW6QqcmCfm8
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>>646811344
It doesn't feel right. Watching a tv show and hearing "want to come over at X?". I want to understand this easily. I don't want to have to follow clues "where does this show take place again?"
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Here's a major issue with it.
Business call from Australia to America, with timezones we can find out when we are both awake, with one timezone you would have no clue
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>>646812701
>hey friend, where are you?
it's literally that easy
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>>646812701
>muh laziness and comfort
Who cares about your bullshit anon. Get smart
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>>646812751
you would just know where the sun doesnt shine on the earth at an given time, how is that hard?
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>>646812640
You have no idea what that even means. Clock synchronization has absolutely nothing to do with time zones. The fact that you think it does proves that you're not intelligent enough to understand the situation, but want to appear intelligent. So you hear something and think "that guy sounds smart, I'll repeat his opinion to others" only you completely failed at understanding his opinion, and you tried to use his opinion where it didn't apply.
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>>646813053
Because you then have to know every countries "Timezone" (When the sun is up) Which is exactly what time zones are used for
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Go ahead, plug it into a plagiarism checker, I dare you. I'm sorry you can't handle that someone on /b/ may have a higher fucking IQ than you. Wow, I couldn't at all be a computer science major or anything, that would be ludicrous! Don't you have a fucking You Banana You Lose thread to make?
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>>646812869
I'm watching a tv show. I can't talk to the tv.
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>>646812751
you have to go and look up timezones, if universal time was just natural to everybody, here's how itd go
>oh its such and such time in america
>that means the sun isnt up in autralia
>ill call later
its not hard
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>>646812890
You're the lazy one for wanting to get rid of time zones in the first place.
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>>646813457
Okay, you'll probably google it anyway but can you tell me if the sun is up in norway right now?
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>>646813410
whatre you watching in this theoretical world where it wouldnt take into account that fact that you need to know where they are?
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>>646812751
Not true. With a 24 hour clock you know opposite you is the exact opposite time of day. For example its 24 in Australia and midday. Therefore it's likely around 14 or 15 in North America and you'd simply have to substract the amount of hours you are away to determine its very early in the morning there and wait A few hours
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>>646813457
Everyone isn't going to be an expert in the world's times.
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>>646813240
You can just admit that it isn't within your abilities to conceive of what the fuck I'm talking about, idiot. Damage control isn't necessary here.
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>>646813586
no, because i dont know the fuckin time zones for norway
if we had universal time i would just know whether or not its night or day in europe right now
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>>646813722
What about places that are less obvious? New zealand to Japan, Singapore to Brazil. Not everything is a perfect opposite
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>>646813629
So you're saying the characters should say "hey, want to come over at 8pm, and we are in Scotland by the way"? That makes the dialogue extremely awkward.
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>>646813779
thats the whole point you piece of shit
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>>646813944
See what I mean, and that also means "Just call them at night" Could mean anything from just before dinner to halfway through them sleeping
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>>646814144
no it wouldnt, because in this theoretical world thatd be a totally normal thing to do
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>>646813998
Same idea. It's 12 in Japan and 14 in New Zealand. Since its midday in Japan it's probably just after lunch in New Zealand
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>>646813829
I know exactly what you're talking about. And you're fucking retarded.
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>>646804677
This
If you traveled to another country you would have to figure out if there 12pm is lunch, dinner, or whatever. Now you travel some where you know it's 6-8pm so you know it's time to eat.
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>>646813240
Was I talking about time zones from the start? Because I don't think my point about Spanner's efficiency had anything to do with time zones. I'm sorry your one-track mind couldn't juggle what I was talking about with what the topic of the thread was. I thought I precluded myself well enough, my mistake, I guess.

I don't know, Anon. If my point is so moot, maybe you should ask Google's infrastructural architects what they think.

You obviously didn't understand what I was getting at from the get-go, so just fuck off already.
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>>646814243
not if everybody was fluent in universal time
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>>646814447
So you're asking everyone in the world to know the rough time of every country in the world? My, that sounds like exactly what timezones are. But timezones also give traditional times for things, lunch is at noon, dinner at night.
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>>646814301
Why? If I'm talking to my friend, we know we are both in Scotland. It's not a normal thing to say. Why would you say that? Especially since it's 8pm everywhere on earth, so the fact that you're in Scotland is even less important to the person you're talking to. Explain to me why I'd tell someone that we're both in Scotland when they already know we are both in Scotland?
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>>646814605
In that case why not just learn timezones? That way you actually get to have lunch at noon in any country you go to
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>>646806631
Yeah but only fagets do that.
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>>646803818
>Timezones originated as a way to tell longitude.

So, you'd just ask the natives in Borneo what timezone they were in and you'd know where you are.
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>>646814557
What you're talking about is nonsense. Having synchronized clocks is very useful, but that has nothing to do with the current conversation.
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>>646814544
You'd eat when you're hungry stupid
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>>646814846
why are you asking where you both are if you know where you both are ya fuckin wrench
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>>646815174
You want to get on the normal schedule. You might have a snack to hold you over, but you'd still want to get on schedule.
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>>646814800
Only because time zones already exist. They're not necessary
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>>646814800
Night would still exist even with a new time structure.
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Creating one time zone wouldn't change the fact that the sun sets in one place and rises in another, it wouldn't change the confusion whilst talking to someone on the other side of the planet.

Just learn how to add and subtract the time from where you live to another part of the earth and viola.
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>>646814993
Best thread ever.
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>>646815361
I never said I was asking. What the hell are you talking about? What I'm saying is that when watching a tv show you wouldn't understand what time of day it was. 8pm is the same time of day everywhere. But in the new system it wouldn't be. So the viewer wouldn't fully understand the context.
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>>646814993
Because you're posting in it dumbo
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>>646815550
The original point stands though, Both of these methods accomplish the same goals except timezones also give you the benefit of knowing what happens at what times as compared to having to find out what time lunch is in Sweden or Zimbabwe
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>>646814846
The point being made here is sound. Either way, you have to tell someone a relative geographic location, or they have to have a preconceived notion of it. Otherwise, the receiver doesn't know whether that means day or night for the transmitter. This matters, because of circadian rhythm. Otherwise one side of the Earth would operate at night, and if it didn't, as it doesn't, you would be required to inform others of the position of the sun where you are located at their same time.

Hence, time zones. Rough guidelines, ambiguous and inexact. Just like human beings' inherent experience of time at root anyways. Time is always relative, until the entire planet is communicating instantaneously, FTL.
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Stop trying to change the world OP, we're doing just fine without you.
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>>646815617
What....? For dinner or something sure?
Regardless see
>>646815784
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>>646802717
So, let's shift to the Greenwich.
If you were by Greenwitch, which is the 0 or the "first" time zone, it would be about 11AM at your time and you'd be having dinner.
By 1PM you'd have to go to bed and it will be all dark.
When it's 10PM you'll have to go to school.

Now, what makes more sense:
1. seeing tat it's 1pm and seeing that it's dark and getting ready to sleep
or
2. seeing 11pm and seeing that it's dark and getting ready to bed?

(yes, i know about the white nights in Russia and the situation with the north pole, but that happens rarely)

honestly, I'm not sure if this is a troll or just America's education system failing. And don't try to say you are not American, only an American can ask such a dumb question.
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>>646815784
Timezones are also a benefit when doing business around the world. If I know it's 3:00 a.m. in Germany I'm not going to call them about a shipment that hasn't arrived.
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Look man so people who move around the world can have the same schedule or they can get accoustom to going to work at 9 and coming home at 5. So it is much easier for everyone when they have a conversation. But this is /b/ so fuck it because everyone is a faggot and that is the only logical explanation.
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>>646815402
You'd figure out pretty quick when the sun sets and rises. Therefore making whatever time that happens, be it 4 or 8 or 17, morning and night. Plus the people around you could easily tell you this basic info. 24 is lunch or 5 is dinner here, very simple
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>>646815807
Exactly. Time zones make my job difficult, but they are useful. I'd have a much easier time developing software if they didn't exist, but I know that they are valuable.

Pretending they aren't useful doesn't mean that they aren't.
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>>646815722
the timezone a character is located in a fictional world in a theoretical world isnt even that important anyway. if you were watching mr.ciamanaskswhyhewear'sthemask.webm in this theoretical you dont actaully give a fuck what timezone Gotham is in so why would it come up?
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>>646815641
> learn to add and subtract
That is what timezones are you moron.
The adding and subtracting done in advance
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>>646815067
Oh and that must mean it contributes nothing to the conversation. No, OP's goal of the discussion wasn't at all to discuss a more efficient and accurate system of timekeeping. I must've posted in the wrong thread.

You're such the classic /b/ nay-sayer. I reveal a golden example and prime subject of discussion, and you shit all over it like the primate troll like you are. I can't wait until your kind returns to the digital and/or genetic cesspool from whence you fucking came, whichever comes first.
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>>646816248
So you're saying people should learn what time it is in their country and around the world?
My gosh :o that is exactly what timezones are!
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>>646816352
>>646815722
that'd just be bad writing
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Op is saying we should all have the same time on earth. Including day light savings. I agree
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>>646816248
Still less simple than looking at my clock. Plus if say I know breakfast is served until 11am at my favorite chain restaurant time zones are super helpful. It would be very difficult to figure out when it would be served until here without looking it up.
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>>646816012
I'm a well educated Canadian sir. Just don't see the need for time zones anymore
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>>646816754
>well educated
And yet you ask the most childish question ever...
What's next? Why do birds fly? Why do fish swim?
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>>646816352
You want to understand the story. Understanding time is often important to understanding the story. If you can't understand the story why watch. And if you think television isn't if value, explain how it's a multi billion dollar industry?
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>>646816754
A grocery store in Australia is open 9 til 5. Just like the rest of the world. It is much more difficult to find out that in India they are open 17-1.
Hence timezones > No Timezones
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>>646816543
not exactly, there are plenty of instances where time zones are very wonky for political reasons and universal time would eliminate that factor
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>>646817065
Gimme an example then.
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>>646817051
Not if you're in India you could simply ask one person and then you know for the duration of your trip
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>>646816012
Your argument sucks and you should feel bad. I hope to god you'll never be a teacher or instructor, no matter what country you live in. Go take some fucking critical thinking and philosophy courses.
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>>646816754
It's very useful to have days switch in a "down time". Midnight is a less busy time and so it's a good time to have days change. It becoming tomorrow in the middle of the normal work period would cause many problems.
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>>646817035
time and time zones aren't as related in story telling as you want to believe, sorry
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>>646817225
That's one more person to ask then just knowing your timezones. And considering you need to know as much about "Universal time" as you do timezones there's really no reason to learn "Universal time"
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>>646817051
I feel like you are all just too lazy to move your watch to the correct time zone once in that country, hence you prefer to have all time zone and never move your watch
my god.

also, you do realize that America will be about 7 or 11 hours behind their current time, right?
for most of Europe it woudln't be a problem, since mostly tis GMT+0 to GMT+4 but USA is like GMT+8 and china is GMT-8 or so?
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>>646817142
Not that anon, but you should really read the thread:
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>>646817345
Midnight and noon only exist because time zones already do, midnight would be 17 somewhere and 4 somewhere else. It would be very easy to adjust
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>>646817482
Why are you saying this to me? I support timezones
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>>646817356
They often are. Like the episode of Seinfeld where Kramer comes into Jerry's room in the middle of the night. Much easier to understand with time zones. Even if you can tell it's night time, whether it's 10 pm or 5 am is a huge difference.
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>>646817225
Lol but the purpose of time zones is to perform that calculation automatically. It's not that hard to understand. The only problem with timezones is that they aren't divided into 24 equal sectors, but leave it to politics to overcomplexify everything.
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>>646817526
I assume you've seen it, I have. I didn't see any specific example of "TIMEZONES MAKE THIS HARD FOR ME"
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>>646802717
is this nigger serious?
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>>646817764
you can also tell its late because it's the middle of the fucking night you fuckin autist
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>>646817592
I'm talking about days switching. I'm not talking about midnight. Unless you're claiming the day would flip from Monday to Tuesday at 1700.
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Getting rid of timezones would be getting rid of time for pretty much everywhere except where Universal time began because people would just use "Day, Midday, Night" You know, the whole stone age thing
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>>646802717
We have Zulu Time
And everywhere except the USA uses a 24 hour clock already
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>>646817964
You can't tell if it's 5 am or 10 pm. Learn to fucking read.
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>>646802717
Most of the world does use 24 clock, amerifat.
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>>646817917
Yea man time zones are unnecessary in today's modern society. We could simplify everything without them and get rid of this am/pm bullshit as well as having 2 days happening at the same time
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>>646817547
too late m8
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>>646817764
>>646817964
Plus they are all in the same fuckin room, there's not a fuckin time zone running through Jerry's fuckin room
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>>646817851
What? It pointed out exclusively, that Russia and Australia's time zone rules are fucking wonky as shit. That doesn't even begin to describe the randomness that is Pacific island timezones. As for the "but this doesn't make it 'difficult' for anyone" argument, just ask the computer programmer what they think about that >>646816306
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>>646802717
I think everyone is missing the point that OP is confused by hemispheres
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>>646818159
that's not the point, silly
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>>646818317
And? It's off by 30 minutes. It's not that "CRAZY WONKY BULLSHIT AHHHHHHHHH" using my timezone (Australia) I can easily figure out what time it is everywhere else by timezone. How would universal time fix that issue. You realise days would be ending at 14:35 or 4:09 that's the weird part
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>>646818476
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>>646817592
Midnight and noon have nothing to do with timezones.
It's based on sunrise, sunset, and the halfway point.

This is the most retarded thread I have ever seen on here, and it's full of morons trying to defend having no timezones by telling people to mentally adjust foreign times... (that's what timezones are)

I'm equally amused and disturbed by this thread.
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>>646818160
Yes but I'm talking about time zones dumb shit, they aren't necessary
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>>646818283
You're retarded. How does there not being a time zone running through his room have to do with anything? I'm saying seeing Jerry check his clock and seeing it say 4:00 am is useful in a world of time zones, but not useful in a world of no time zones (regardless of what the clock says, it could be 0400 or a picture of a duck, the point is the time doesn't provide any additional context).
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How about we solve this with a fucking table, Perks And Cons of Universal time over Timezones and just let that sort it out. (Universal time will be shit)
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>>646803615
>>646802717
I have international family and friends and its nice to know if you're calling during the day, or in the middle of the fucking night
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>>646818919
Ok start
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You'd need a pretty large watch and or clock for a 24 hour
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>>646818838
you know where New York is, problem solved. And if you dont you really should stay in school
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>>646819085
Did you knew you can have.. MULTIPLE CLOCKS MAYBE?!
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>>646818919
Knowing whether or not its a good time to skype with your missionary friend in Gambia.
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>>646818633
>30 minutes

Wow, you sure are a special brand of stupid, aren't you? First of all, to compound your argument, there are particular timezones that are offset by 15, 10, and even 5 minutes, jackass.
Second of all, countries such as Russia not only have timezones that are off by HOURS from true solar time in that area, but have an even more complicated daylight savings time system.

You are so fucking ignorant. If you would've watched that YouTube video from the quoted post, and then kept your fucking stupid, grubby, cheeto, dorito, and mtn dew -encrusted fingers off of your keyboard for a minute, there would be that much less stupidity in the world at the moment.

Don't breed.
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>>646803615
>MFW "Noon" is ""noon" Because the sun is i the middle of the fucking sky
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>>646819085
As already explained in his thread that would be easy to know. you simply add or subtract their local time to yours and adjust to the time of day.. Example. It's 18 here and midday, so if it's 24 there then it's likely supper time
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>>646819107
>There are no perks of Universal time
>>646819398
Perks of Universal time not timezones
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>>646819331
>646819085
You mean multiple times for different time zones? Thats literally the most retarded option.
Timezones are fine faggot
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>>646819467
there are places on earth where the sun doesnt rise for months, anon....
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>>646819253
So now you need to know where everything you read or view takes place, in addition to knowing where that place is geographically.

So everything from reading a green text story to watching a tv show to hearing a joke now requires additional information.

And what do we gain here exactly? Now I begin dinner on Tuesday and finish it on Wednesday, but at least I don't need to comprehend how it can be Tuesday here and Wednesday on the other side of the world.
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>>646819520
And as already stated in this thread,
The solution you just gave IS timezones.

Adjusting the time to the relevant hour in relation to you is the purpose of timezones.

You are literally saying we should remove timezones, and then mentally adjust foreign times to their relative timezone.

Do you not see how retarded that is?
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>>646819443
- Daylight savings is the problem not timezones
- Times are off? Boy you stupid? universal time would throw times off as well
- It doesn't matter the difference between 5 minutes and 6 hours, it's still a difference in time which timezones solve
- There was no need to get rude
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>mfw people just want everything to get easier and simpler, more retarded

I guess this is what happened when people kept lowering their education standards . you fags make a sad sad planet.
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>>646819520
What? If time is universal and not local how can it be a different time here than there?
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>>646802717
i dont reckon, actually its less complicated to just have different timezones lol
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>>646819804
This is the one good argument. No fixed timezone system means setting ambiguity, and translates to require time accompanied by location at all times.

Shit like anything on the Internet doesn't really matter, but all books and stories would fail. Probably a lesson in why this debate is manifesting in the first place.
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>>646820076
Time is local.. There's just no time zones, 12 here and 24 on the opposite side of the world
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>>646820012
It's not just DST! Take your fucking Adderall and watch the goddamn video you twit!
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>>646819520
This is literally timezones, the system we have now. Also there already is universal time, its called UT, and it uses the Greenwich Meridian
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>>646820236
Thank you. Someone keeps arguing that time context isn't valuable, but it is. You're losing a valuable pieceof information and aren't really gaining anything.
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>>646820413
Continue your argument, If it's not DST causing problems with timezones what is it?
I'm sure you've written an essay at some point in your life and you know how to get full marks... USE EXAMPLES
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>>646802717
Because that's what the sundial says, GMT is daylight hours
Duh
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>>646819804
>>646820236
its called basic geography, a fundamental understanding of the world proportional to yourself, you learn what would be relavent to you, if a joke doesnt make sense becasue you didnt care to pay attention in your geography class, its all kinda on you for just being a fuckin retard
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>>646820396
How is that different from time zones then?
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>>646820051
Quite possibly the most myopic comment in the whole thread. Congratulations, you are what you hate.
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>>646820470
I'm saying there should be one time across the I entire planet, it's 12 everywhere
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>>646820682
You know the current time right now for not only every major country on earth, but every city in those countries?

Because if not, you just called yourself a fucking retard.
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