אל אל ישראל!!!!!

cuz there's not one good thing that's come of that shithole and I'm tired of indirectly paying for your people's illegal occupation. Fuck off.

>>608547359
bunch of nobel prizes and the most stable place in the middle east. fuck off

>>608546881
Are you using "all" as in generally all like "chol"

or are you using"all" as in absolutely all like "khulam chulo"

because, of course not

>>608547473
That's great, now gets your big nose outta my face.

because saudi arabia say so, and they give cheap oil if everybody hate israel and support jihadist preachers

success breeds ealousy

Because you guys are self entitled drag queen bitches who think their religion needs a land of it's fucking own, you already belong in an ashtray.

>>608547998
agreed

>>608546881
because the jews are controlling the world to dystroy us its the real church of satan

>>608547998
nobody is jealous of any Jew.

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You also want to be pampered and whiny, aren't a bit self sufficient. Hell, you even have the JIDF to ''protect'' you from internet bullies.

>>608546881
I hate the Talmud and Zionists, they're a bunch of phallic worshiping faggots that own us. There are those in Israel that don't really know this. But many do... At least the ones running thw show are.

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>>608548779
no idea what you're talking about

>>608548387
You know what's going on. Those Rothchilds...

>>608547958
success breeds jealousy

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>>608549415
>success
you mean like how israel's GDP is equivalent to chile?

go bake in an oven, you kike

Sometimes, when I'm alone at night, I go to my yard, set myself on fire, reduce to ash and pretend I am a jew

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Bottom line is, everyone will bandwagon on the Jew hate no matter what. Israel will prevail regardless. LONG LIVE ISRAEL

>>608546881
I don't hate them. I just want the US to stop giving a shit about them.

>>608549032
US Aid to israel, 11800000000 Israeli Sheqel worth of dollars (around 3 billion) sent from america to Israel yearly.

Damn kikes, I never hated Jews until I found out how many diapers you use up every single day. A shame on humanity, can't sustain yourselves.

>>608549876
and barely the size of New Jersey

And you also need internet protection with the JIDF, now that's a new low for being pampered.

Worst of all, you don't even have history, all the history you will make is how America mass produced adult diapers for you throughout the years.

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>>608550866
nice try

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T-sGC37XHE

>>608546881
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etXAm-OylQQ

>>608547276
What does el el, Yishrael mean?

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>>608550420
your point being? good enough considering how small a land mass it is?

if israel is so amazing and has such a great economy as you imply, then they can quit sucking billions of dollars from american taxpayers.

they won't though. leeching is in their dna

>>608547359
>your people's illegal occupation
I see you're an armchair legal expert then. Did MSNBC tell you it was illegal?

>>608546881
why wouldn't anyone oppose a warlike expansionist country?

>>608547359
>there's not one good thing that's come of that shithole
The Arabs leaving was a good thing, and they came out of that shithole.

>>608546881
I hate the entire east. Sorry.

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>>608546881
I don´t

>>608548507
Except for the entire Arab world.

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>>608546881

the question you should ask is why do they hate you goy?

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>>608552083
>Anonymous

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>>608546881

>>608551883
>>608551965
>>608551881
>>608551507
Most peaceful country on the middle east. has only fought to defend itself.

>>608549876
Not sure if that's an insult or not. Chile is by far the strongest economy in South America, it escaped the ravages of communism under Allende, it's got some really nice wine.

Anon, was that an insult or not?

>>608550190
This

Because isreal is a faggot

USS Liberty.
/thread

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>>608552143
>>608552023
Don´t worry b, pol has arrived

sage and report this thread

>>608546881
Germanfag here
I <3 Israel>>608546881

>>608551507
THIS!!!!
>/THREAD

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>>608552633
sure, Samuel

>>608552633
dubs have spoken <3

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>>608551900
nah just israel's supreme court

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/mar/26/israeli-court-rules-against-illegal-settlement

and the UN
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/01/world/middleeast/un-panel-says-israeli-settlement-policy-violates-law.html

the ruse is up kike, keep whining though

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>>608552505

Glory to /pol/

>>608552633

OP

we can see it's you.

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>>608546881

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>>608552874

>>608552757
Not even kidding fgt

>>608553156

oy vey

Because I've met people from Israel.

>Before that, was a supporter.

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>>608553176
Ok, Chaim.

>>608550373
3 billion is really nothing compared to other us spending. While it shouldn't go to these people, i think that small amount aint really impacting much.

As long as Israel are killing mudslimes, I'll support Israel. But that's it.

>>608546881
JEWISH PEOPLE = GOOD PEOPLE
ZIONIST PEOPLE = EVIL PEOPLE

>>608553005
Glaub es mir halt nicht. Bockt mich nen scheiß

>>608550373
And the US provides the following amounts to neigbouring countries:

Egypt USD 1,500,000,000
Jordan USD 600,000,000
Iraw USD 300,000,000
Pakistan 880,000,000

What does any of this prove?

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>>608553471
No, all kikes are inherently greedy and evil you dumb nigger

>>608546881
Because they always want more and tell bullshit to back up their false claims. They do everything they claim to be a victim off.

And hating muzzies and liking kikes doesn't seem logic to me. They are the two sides of the same sandnigger shekel.

>>608553544
What's this guy saying? I don't speak Nazi.

>>608551965
Israel returned the Sinai to Egypt in 1982, and the Gaza strip was abandoned in 2005

>>608548521
oh dear god.

>>608553009
Are you surprised? Whites literally gave blacks their freedom and yet they constantly scream about how "racist" whites are. They didn't fight a war to earn their freedom, it was simply written into law by a bunch of old white men, the same ones they hate so much.

>>608553775
nvm

>>608553693
>And hating muzzies and liking kikes doesn't seem logic to me. They are the two sides of the same sandnigger shekel.
this

>>608552505
I'm from /pol/ and not all of us are kike hating faggots. Many of us detest the unintellectual default support for Mudslimes that the tinfoilers, stormfronters, closet-SJW, Jew haters spruik.

Christians still butt hurt they had to borrow money from Rothschild jews. Still butt hurt the Muslims and Jews are in the holy land and not them. Christians butt hurt that Europeans and Americans are wising up and going secular and pushing them out.

Just let it go Christians, it was never meant to be

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>>608553928
All those words translate to "nevermind"?

>>608553471
Fuck you nigger. Jews=firewood

You took land by force from civilians who were weaker than you and had nowhere to go, because you were too greedy to accept gracefully the fuckload of land the rest of the world chose to give you.

You are like a kid who comes to school with no chocolate, the teacher makes the kid sitting next to you share his chocolate and then when he refuses and tries to take his chocolate back, you beat him up and take the whole fucking bar.

Why the fuck should anyone like you?

>>608553407

oh yes we are

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>>608552848
Conflating breaches of the law of belligerent occupation with an occupation being illegal.

This is a first year law student mistake faggot.

>>608551883
i'd rather see my dollar fund isreali tech than our own black ghettos

>>608552356
It also had pinochet.
Its hard to say something "escaped communism" when it was a CIA shell game instated. A dictator who would make entire towns "disappear"

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>>608554417
Fuck you kike

>>608552248
top b8erino

>>608552124
Yup.

>>608547473
Being the most stable place in the middle east is like being the shiniest turd.

israel have been doing the same thing to the palistanies that the nazis were doing to the jews. They have become the new nazis

>>608554125
see

pic related

>>608554712

>>608546881
Because it's a state based on a religion, supported from outside the country. Pretty much like ISIS.

When the state was founded, the majority wasn't even supporting that religion.

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>>608554851

The clearest Shit.

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>>608554984

>>608552124
As a jewish person,I can tell you most jews doesn't even know about the talmud rules and non of the jews do that anymore becuase of the UN.
The different bitween the Muslims and the Jews in this situation is that Muslims are sticking to their religion better then the jews.

>>608554984
Except the Nazi's did nothing wrong.

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>>608554417
no one cares that you go to a third-tier law school shlomo

take your degeneracy back to YHWH's "promised land"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2043345/The-California-boy-11-undergoing-hormone-blocking-treatment.html

>>608546881
Because jews

Don't worry guys, Obama promised to hand over uranium enrichment technology to Iran in 13 years in his latest nuclear deal. First thing Iran will do is nuke Israel and put and end to all this bullshit.

Giving nukes to muslims is literally the only good thing that Obama has ever done.

>>608555337

Of course they did, they were Christfags who started this by carrying out the church's revenge for the failed crusades

>>608555238
Yeah but we dont believe a single word because in the talmud it says, if a goyim asks if there is anything bad about them in the talmud, a jew should and must lie to him.

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>>608555436
even younger in the UK, and it's on the NHS!

>>608554596
who the fuck do you think enacted the social policies that give your dollar to black ghettos?

keep stewing in your white guilt, faggot

The way Israel treats the Palestinian people is awful. It is their fucking land but Israel prefers imprisoning them and proceeds to bomb these prisons regularly.

Okay, the land has been given to the Jews, I can't deny this (although I despise it). But this doesn't change the fact that the Jordanian king once gave a part of his land to the Palestinian to end the war... And guess what happened? Israel took it and builds cities there ever since... And nobody does anything to stop it.

I don't know if it is still like this but some time ago the Palestinian leader agreed on finding a solution, but only if Israel temporarily stops building villages in the Palestinians' land. Israel refused.

I've got my reasons to hate Israel. I don't even think that a religion should be seen as a nation.
I am desperately waiting for the moment when Israel loses its victim status so other countries can start to treat and criticize them just like everybody else.

>inb4 muh antisemitism

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>>608555473
OP is trying too hard.

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Jew-owned NYT admits FOREIGN BRIBERY in Congress

DEPORT ISRAELI TRAITORS NOW

>>608555549

>Pakistan
Go back to school your history lacks

>>608555698
I didn't know that *wink wink*
Anyway,no body I know ever even read the talmud.I didn't,and most likely never will,I love goyims.They come very helpful on Passover

>>608555549
How can you directly support terrorism?

>>608555982
This.
Ill start respecting jews once every one of them opposes the disgusting zionazi goverment of israel, and once jews start treating non jews like normal people.

>>608556217
When you need their blood for your rituals.

>>608555549
the plan is different. the nuclear deal is to get iran under control again to have the russians out. second plan of it is to give israel the right for self defending, like israel will nuke iran first.

>>608554245
Ignores the Arab armies invasion of the British Mandate's territory just before and after its expiration.

Ignores the 1967 and 1973 Arab armies preparing to attack and successfully attack Israel with the intent of destroying it and exterminating the Jews.

Accepts the taqiyah line of "Arabs are victims" following their three defeats.

>>608555549
Iran can't do that,Israel is way to close,It will cause them damage too,Unless they are all dumbfucks and go Jihad on the jews.

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>>608556409
>israel will nuke iran first
Israel has threatened repeatedly to use weapons of mass destruction on the entire world.

>>608554630
Hey, if they're communists its A-Ok :^)

>>608555555
dd

>>608556377
Mate blood is not kosher,silly goyims.

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>>608546881
Because Israel dumb

>>608556246
Is killing the biggest terrorist in the world still terrorism? So be it then

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As a jew, here's why the world hates Israshit. It's pretty much the equivalent of a privileged whiny brat in the school yard who gets everything they want, is hated by everyone, and when picked on, has the teacher come in and punish everyone who picks on him no matter how much he was the instigator. An immune little shit that can get away with murder and free from any punishment. Despite centuries of trying to eliminate it, it keeps lingering around. All the while playing the victim any chance it gets to get the teacher's (US) sympathy and further its own twisted attempt to connive money and power under the false belief that it is somehow "the chosen one".

>>608556246
america and israel are the largest state sponsored terrorist organizations in the world.

not sure if you're a dumb american or a filthy kike...

>>608556375
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etXAm-OylQQ
watching this right now, this jew really knows what he is talking about.

>>608547276
חח שיזדיינו גויים מסריחים

>>608554712
Great comeback. You won the internets today.

>>608556540
I think you're extremely overestimating the destructive radius of a nuclear bomb. Even the bombs dropped on Japan, probably the crudest and dirtiest atomic bombs ever designed, had little effect on the surrounding areas. Hell, even people on the city outskirts were fine.

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>>608556729

>>608556728
>>608556744
How do you guys know? Have you actually been here? Have you actually done something to aid the "poor Palestinians"? Do you think this way because of the education you received or is it because that's the information the media delivers in your states?

>>608556882
Except for radiation burns and permanent blindness, of course.

https://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2013/03/16/new-dna-research-confirms-that-modern-khazarian-jews-are-not-the-descendants-of-ancient-isrealites-or-the-seed-of-abraham/

>>608555436
Went to a law school faggot, and if by third-tier you mean ranked 5th in the world, then yes it meet that definition.

The problem with faggots like you is you just listen to what the media and places like /pol/ say without ever checking the primary sources.

That's why you'll never amount to anything, and will remain captive to a select group of us.

>>608556882
Israel is smaller the Hirushima,And so does Iran,In the best case they will be able to sent the bomb from their lands or sky nuke the jews,But the jews will shoot the plane down and everyone dies,or the nuke comes way to close becuase it was sent from the Iranian land and agian everyone dies.
Iran had nuclear weapons for years now,they are afraid to use it and this reason is one of them.

>>608546881
I dare you all in this thread, to google Israel's Samson option, try not get a heartattack from the inevitable rage you will experience. Basically they will unleash all their nukes and take everyone with them into the depths of hell if they ever feel like their country is being threatened

>>608556729
I salute you for stating this as a jew. I am German, guess what happens if I say this in public...
It really annoys me that it doesn't seem to be allowed to criticize Israel outside of Israel.

>>608557479
Oy vey, goyim, you are personally responsible for gassing six trillion of us and so you must give us money and allow unlimited numbers of arabs in your country to rape and murder you.

If you question or criticize, you will spend five years in prison.

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>>608556759
sage kike threads. JIDF please go

>>608555982
>Okay, the land has been given to the Jews, I can't deny this (although I despise it). But this doesn't change the fact that the Jordanian king once gave a part of his land to the Palestinian to end the war... And guess what happened? Israel took it and builds cities there ever since... And nobody does anything to stop it.
Are you referring to the 1950 annexation of the West Bank? Because that wasn't Jordanian. It was part of the Palestine under the mandate and was a distinct territory from Transjordan.

> I don't know if it is still like this but some time ago the Palestinian leader agreed on finding a solution, but only if Israel temporarily stops building villages in the Palestinians' land. Israel refused.

Back in 2000 Yasser Arafat was offered sovereignty and everything that goes with over 98% of the West Bank and Gaza Strip. He turned it down and started the Second Intifada. Basically any Muslim who signs a deal with Israel will be condemned for eternity by the Ummah, so Arafat chose not to.

>>608550190
When will Israel prevail, exactly?

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>>608557873
Is that... The sandnigger's battle cry?

>>608557323
>ranked 5th in the world
>according to this jewish propaganda website

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>>608558302
what are you talking about shlomo

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>>608547473

jews win prize awarded by jews.

what a surprise.

the most stable place in the middle east?

lolol

>>608557996
>Jordanian
Sorry, was not sure about the translation, you are probably right

>>608556759
Fuck you. Stop making the rest of us Jews look bad, you fucking kike.

There's a difference between Jews and kikes.

>>608558243
Ah fuck you too, edgy fag.

>>608558476
There's no law school in Israel ranked 5th faggot.

>>608558615
Don't mind me Muhammed, just messing around.

>>608558648
KIKES = ZIONISTS

Israel = Nazis of the Middle-East

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>>608557829
Try harder.

>>608555939
white guilt? kek. i bet you miss your dad tucking you in for the night.

>>608546881
Because they think theyre better than everyone else, thats why. In reality theyre nothing more than glorified sandnigs with their hands deep into every modern countrys central bank and mainstream media companies, which is why its so hard to pierce through a lot off peoples thick shell of indoctrination when it comes to the retarded acts of Israel

>>608552248
If there was an exhibit to exemplify b8, this would be in it.

>>608546881
It's been a long day and I'm tired, but the tl;dr version of my answer is that the middle east would be a way fucking quieter better behaved place if Israel didn't exist.

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>>608557479
I agree with some of his points, actually. Don't agree completely, but I understand where he's coming from as a Jew.

But your government and bullshit censorship about the Holocaust and neo-nazis (as much as I despise them as much as, if not more, than the fucking anti-Palestine or anti-Israel idiots) is, well, bullshit. Hopefully people I disagree with can eventually have a voice in your country.

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Lets see...kicked out of country theyve inhabited throughout history...now the root cause of all instability in the Middle East...supposedly allowed by God to fleece any non-jew they can, leading to a deep-seeded involvement in things like usury and pawnbroking...coin shaving...lying...cheating...stealing...all not only tolerated but encouraged due to "divine mandate"...
Pick one

>>608557479
pissed me off on Last Comic Standing when a non jew made a jew joke and the jew judges were offended like if you're not a jew you can't tell a jew joke.....pisses me off that they bought their country by paying off politicians of other countries to support the creation of israel. they did just as much terroristic shit to the people that were there before them as Hitler did to the jews.

Hey anti-kikes and Mudslimes,

How does it feel to know that Jews will always be better than you. No matter whether your conspiracy theories are true or not the Jews will always achieve more than you, and will always live a more meaningful life than you.

You're condemned to a life of jealousy, self-doubt and servitude to Jews and those who move past your intellect?

I'm going to masturbate to the thought of you coming home to your ugly wife, shitty dinner and bills you can't pay. How does this feel faggots?

>>608559892
So your argument is based on deaths? That's so retarded I don't even have words for it. There were waaaay more Nazis killed than Americans. Does that mean that the Americans were wrong and the Nazis were right?

>>608560214
Please stop. You're not helping the rest of us.

>>608560239
thats another story.

>>608557323
agreed fully. /pol/ faggots are biased as fuck

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>>608560214
Your time will come soon enough.

>>608560413
I'm just giving a parallel example of what your argument is based on.

>>608560239
Yes thats exactly what it means

>>608560239
i second this

>>608560563
It already happened and you epiclly failed, you retard.

>>608559892
This is the usual MIDF proportionality propaganda.

They try to justify their actions based on proportionality, and undermine the Israelis actions on the same basis.

It's 101 PSYOPS and works against the leagues of unintelligent lemmings the Muslims are trying to influence. Credit where credit is due though.

>>608560239

Did you actually look at the researched statistics on who initiated the killing in the majority of the cases?

Plus we're not talking about a war between two states with one aggressor, that chart documents the total death toll against both hamas fighters and, moreso, a totally defenceless civilian population. Israel claims to be defending itself from terrorists who target civilians, yet those data quite clearly show which party kills the most civilians.

>>608560688
>implying the holohoax was the first or the last pogrom

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>>608556637

"muslims destroying muslim antiquities"

i know, right? lol.

israel = isis

>>608560372
Not a Jew, but I get off to the tears of these faggots and their shitty lives.

>>608560639
>>608560608
Samefag

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>>608560916
Just stop being a fucking putz.

>>608560836
Implying that "already happened" was singularly lined to the Holocaust.

>>608560572
well germany had a strong military and where allmost equal compaired to their enemies.
the palestinan people are fighting with nothing against one of the strongest army in the world.

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>>608561073
no lol

>>608559574
Underleveled orc attempting late game boss fight

>>608560214
the question is who is more powerful the jew or the Chinese i bet they greatly outnumber you.

>>608546881
why defend them? srsly tho they're whiny self-entitled motherfuckers who commit terrible war crimes.

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>>608560736
JIDF detected

>>608560832
You do realize that it's Hamas that's actually killing the civilians? I'm not a pro-Israel guy myself, but they try not to kill the civilians. They send messages telling them when they're going to drop the bomb. It's Hamas that keeps them inside under threat of death as human shields.

>>608547359
if you're on /b/ on an iphone or a pc with an intel processor then go die because both of those were made in israel

>>608561328
I wouldn't call Hamas exactly weak.

>>608561193
Why, I'm sick of these cunts thinking they can spread their anti-Jew stuff and not cop any flak.

They're all one of the following categorie
Far-Right faggots
Far-Left faggots
Basement dwelling neckbeard trolls
Impressionable intellectually challenged folk, or
Muslims

Apart from the intellectually challenged folk, I've got no time for the others, and I hope they an hero themselves.

>>608546881
It's natural to dislike aggressors. I hope Iran nukes the shit out of them, even if it starts a global nuclear war.

>>608561483
Well they definitely outnumber my few, and too the Jews. But do they outnumber you?

>>608561602
Hamas is a kindergarden compared to IDF and on top of that they do represent a minority of palestinians. But my point is that all most of the IDF kills is poor civilians.

>>608561774
There should be arguments against them; I agree, most of their arguments are so retarded that they make insane people look sane. But being a schmuck is extremely unhelpful and doesn't prove anything.

>>608561531
i think you read that wrong buddy. do some more research

>>608562117
Very true. I agree, Hamas does represent a minority of Palestinians.

But if Hamas is so easy to beat, how come the IDF hasn't done it yet?

>>608561517
Simpleton detected.

>Reads post that is rational but counters the anti-Jew position.
>Hurr durr must be JIDF!

They simply don't deserve their land. Neither should a religion be allowed to be called a state nor was it okay to a) give them land that belonged to somebody else and b) let them expand their territory without any repercussions.

>>608546881
because its true when they say "jews start all the wars"

>>608562129
Fair enough, anon.

>>608546881
because israel probably has the worst PR team ever.
I've been spending most of the summer running to the shelter 3-5 times a day, because civilians were the only target of attacks against israel.
when the israeli army strikes backs, taking insane care to hit tactical targets.
Hamas uses a fucking human shield, so there is practically no way to strike back without hurting civilians.
and yet, every time I see any discussion on the internet about israel, I have to read comments from americans whose drones are killing innocent people for motives that have nothing to do with protecting their country,
telling me how I should be ashamed.

don't get me wrong. I vote left every year. I want peace. but people perspective of us is completely fucked up.

>>608559892
wow, those operation names are really lame in english.

>>608559892

>>608562426
thats why every single Arab neighbor invaded Israel upon creation right?

>>608561531

Here's a question: if a guy takes a human shield, do you keep shooting at him anyway?

There's no easy solution to the problem, but you don't just fucking shoot up the human shield to get to the terrorist on the basis that 'well it's not my fault they got taken hostage'.

Imagine if the police or SWAT or SAS went into a hostage situation and just said 'fuck it just kill everyone in the building'. Basically defeats the purpose of going in at all.

I'm pretty sure most of the people here would change their mind about Israel once they get to come here, it's not as bad as people think and well, we're not all criminals who commit warcrimes all day, you'd be surprised. Although there are the brain-dead monkeys around here, just like some of the posters here in this thread. I'm not much of a pro-israeli person myself but I don't really see any reason supporting terrorists.

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because jews.

http://www.biblestudysite.com/judeawar.htm

>>608562117
>represent a minority of palestinians

Hamas might politically represent a minority--a significant minority--but they have widespread support amongst the Muslim population in the region.

If they held elections tomorrow Hamas would win hand down, and Abbas would be out on the street at best.

>>608559823
the entire world would be quieter without the united states. what kind of argument is that?

>>608562366
the answer is the coleteral damage they made. people get radical seeing their homes and neighborhood getting bomed, dead people all over. what would you do? the solution is to bring peace without gunfire

>>608560214

ha this was funny

>>608561557
>we have one Intel plant in Israel out of 16
>we processors now
>doesn't even make 14 nm chips
fuck off

>>608562899
>but they have widespread support amongst the Muslim population in the region.
guess why. Hamas or lets say the palestinans is like David fighting against Goliath (Israel).

>>608562117
>But my point is that all most of the IDF kills is poor civilians.

Well there's a number of issues there. First, the number of civilians usually includes Hamas fighters. It does, however, also include lots of actual civilians.

This is because Hamas deliberately puts their civilians in locations where their military targets are to force the Israelis to chose between the military advantage of striking, and the consequences of not.

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>>608562426
What about the Yom Kippur War, or the 1948 war, or the closing of the Straits of Tiran in May 1967?

>>608559823
I seriously doubt that. Most of the Muslim people are blindly following their religion, which causes terrorism. Having Israel or well, "Palestine" would just get them more resources to go against people who they do not see fit.

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>>608563256

> Hamas puts civilians in locations as human shield

> IDF KEEPS FUCKING SHOOTING REGARDLESS?

mfw.

>>608546881
because according to the Talmud, Israel hates all of us

>>608546881
>Russia takes back an area that has almost exclusively russian speaking natives
>world spazzes out
>israel takes land daily that isnt theirs simply because "god said it was ours"
>oh rly god said that wow thats so interesting and not bullshit at all
>its just arabs guys who cares
And that ladies nd gentlemen is how you create isis

>>608546881

money sink
causes all the problems in the middle east
entitled whiny bitches
fucks in other countries politics
expects other countries to fight its wars for it
superiority complex

jew women are hot but i can get them even if israel is wiped off the face of the map so its just a stain on humanity at this point.

>>608562675
I'll agree, it is an ethical quandary. What do you do? Frankly, if I were in charge, I don't know. But if everywhere you have Hamas you got collateral damage, it ain't a clear thing. Do you value their human life or yours?

I really don't know. In the words of Oscar Wide: "the truth is rarely pure and never simple."

>>608552248
nice bait, they shouldn't be defending themselves because they shouldn't be there in the first place. It's not their land, God didn't award anyone shit and it wasn't the place of anyone to take the land away from its rightful owners and give it them.

>>608562937
True, but if the Palestinians are unwilling to talk, and the Israelis aren't coming up with a way to get them to talk...well that solution is kind of out for a while.

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No hate, they make great lamp shades...

>>608562675
>Here's a question: if a guy takes a human shield, do you keep shooting at him anyway?

Depends on two things: Whether you are acting in self-defence. I.e. he's shooting at you and using a child as a vest. Secondly, what would the military advantage be of shooting him and the civilian. If it's a shit bag fighter, then no. If it's a senior leader, then maybe.

>Imagine if the police or SWAT or SAS went into a hostage situation and just said 'fuck it just kill everyone in the building'. Basically defeats the purpose of going in at all.

It's called an EA, and sometimes this is included. Mostly if the threat within the building is significant to those outside. I.e. if they have a large explosive device that could harm those around, and there's only a few hostages. Rarely occurs though

>>608563256

fukin dumazz jew what do you expect them to do? you shot yr way into town and renamed allah akbar street into ben gurion blvd. you think they just suppose toforget that because you declared yrself a country? guess what they dont agree

>>608563256
actually this is not a fact. it is more a tactic of the idf to defend their strikes. but even if its true, than think about this - a terrorist killed a few people and getting chased by the police, there is no way for him to escape, he makes hostages. has the police the right to kill everybody just to eliminate the terrorist?

>>608562632
shit forgot link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUrDAEgisXM

>>608562937
then they should just be the bigger man because it's not their land and they don't belong there hth

>>608563527
This
>/thread

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>>608546881
BECAUSE ASHKENAZIS DO NOT BELONG IN ISRAEL YOUR PEOPLE WERE NEVER EVER IN ISRAEL AND WHAT YOUR DOING TO THE PALESTINIANS IS WRONGS YOU MEDIA CONTROLLING, BEAKED NOSED, GREEDY BASTARDS

>>608564060
>"We do not negotiate with terrorists."
Meaning we wait until everyone is dead or freed, then kill/lockup the terrorist.

>>608563256
In Israels eyes, every palestinian is a hamas militant.
What if you're palestinian, and you dont want anything to do with hamas?
Well then you can go fuck yourself because what? You're not even allowed to leave the godforsaken place. You're expected to live in a country completely devastated and you're expected to suck it up when Israels blocks another shipment of cement when you try to repair whats left

>>608563506
oh sure, we should just leave them while they bombard us. that will probably work out fine.

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>>608546881

because sampson option terrorist threat

https://archive.org/details/Sampson_Option

>>608564180
Yeah, you want your people bombed all the time? If, say, Berkeley declared independence and started lobbing bombs everywhere, what the fuck do you think the US would do? Just "be the bigger man" while their people get slaughtered?

In nearly every case, Hamas started the fight. Not Israel.

>>608563228
>Hamas or lets say the palestinans is like David fighting against Goliath (Israel).

I see you've become a follower of the "Palestinians are victims" line.

The Arabs were the most powerful military actors back in 1948, 1967 and 1973, but lost due to poor command and military tactics. Then they decided to transform the fight into an asymmetric fight and claim victim hood.

No sympathy for them.

What are Hamas fighting for anyway? When they took control of the Gaza strip they had the whole thing, and Israel wasn't involved. So why did they start fighting again?

>>608564565
Hamas wouldn't have to fight if Israel didn't exist, which it shouldn't. They didn't declare independence, they stole it.

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>>608546881

because leo frank and the adl

>>608564565

except for when you zionists kikes showed up one day and took their land you idiot

>>608564708
see this video and you will understand your facts is just bs.
>>608551507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etXAm-OylQQ

>>608565058
>>608564859
Actually, it was Britain who took the land first and they eventually gave it to Israel, who was willing to give up land for Palestine. Palestine refused and wanted the whole thing.

>>608565404
>let me just steal the USA and give you back the west coast
>fair deal isnt it

>>608565270
pls anybody who is really interessted in this should watch this video or at least just listen to it (60min).
>>608565270

>>608564057
So you're saying its OK to use children as human shields if you are the weaker of two actors?
>>608564060
than think about this - a terrorist killed a few people and getting chased by the police, there is no way for him to escape, he makes hostages. has the police the right to kill everybody just to eliminate the terrorist?
Police and military actions come under different law.

Police operate under domestic laws and therefore are subject to whatever the domestic authority has passed and International Human Rights Laws.

Military operate under International Humanitarian Law. The key test is the proportionality test. The test is whether the harm to the protected person (civilian in this case) is proportional to the military advantage gained. I.e. Company level administrative cell based in a hospital--cannot bomb the hospital with a 2000lb bomb. Brigade level intelligence and operations cells based in a hospital--look out patients.

>>608565404
because they deserved the whole thing. Because they owned the whole thing. This isn't the type of thing you haggle for when it's your property. The English are just as guilty, but you can't take the fault off of the Israelis. And sure, the Hamas are crazy fucks but they just want what is owned by them.