>>606004311
there is no life on europe

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>>606004311

I think it's got an ocean of caramel with an nougat center. The outer crust is white chocolate powdered with cocoa.

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I hope so.

Would be bacterial or whatever I guess.
Would love the religious shitstorm that followed

wouldn't be surprised tbh

>>606004311
this is the bottom of an old frying pan

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definitely

>>606005412
I enjoyed that movie.

>>606004311
I hope there is, but I doubt it.

Dumbass. There is no intelligent life in Europe. It's all just Turks and Slavs squatting on old roman ruins.

>>606004311
Some squad type life forms, ever seen the documentaries where they go deep in the earths ocean to where it's completely dark and you get bioluminescent life, they all look like aliens

>>606004730
10/10 would eat europa

>>606004311
Probably, but one of the more disappointing forms.
Like algae or bacteria or pug dogs.

Get ready for a mass shuffling of goalposts by religionfags when it happens though.
That's where the fun'll be.

>>606005745
that could have been because it was fucking good

>>606004311
I think there might be something to the theory of Panspermia. So life could spread through space as bacterial spores. If they landed anyplace with liquid water and a chemical energy source , maybe they could get started. So life in the deep ocean of an outer planet moon is possible I guess.

I wouldn't be surprised, either way. It could be single-celled protists, or an ocean of large, multi-cellular life. No way to really know until we get there.

>>606004311
Hydrocarbons. Fluid medium. Heat energy. Im hopeful there is microbial life. It might be ubiquitous in our solar system

>>606006220
Literally shut the fuck up forever.

>>606006484
Dude any life would be exciting. bacteria are amazing. Unicellualr life there would spur space exploration and support the commercialization of space science

>>606006220
made me laugh!

Also OP, I have deep hopes for Europa but it's not that likely that there is life. It's a very cold moon, so it'd need some strong volcanic activity to have some liquid water somewhere.
And if it's kilometers deep below the icecrust it might not be stable enough to have originated life.
Also if panspermia it's pretty much fucked for europa. But we have very little understanding of how life originated so there is hope.

this shit is totally fascinating

btw, Anybody else voting on ourpluto??

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Mmmm. Nah i dont think so. They dont even know if there is liquid water there. It is pure speculation.

I watched video about how they came to this conclusion and the astro-geo-physisits based it on the idea that an elliptical orbit could compact and distent the crust (ice) enough to creation heat to leave water under there.

While i understand the 'heating up a squash ball' theory they've come up with behind it, i think applying that on a planetary scale is retarded. We still know so little about astrophysics and how planets/life works, and these fools are drawing massive conclusions from literally zero data, just speculation. It equates to religious people talking about god in my opinion.

You have no idea, none of us do.

>>606007679
It's actually has a liquid ocean caused by the tidal forces of the sun and Jupiter pulling it in opposite directions. The heat energy is one of the reasons it's a good candidate

>>606008116
Just because you don't understand the science doesn't mean that's not how it is.

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>>606007202
bretty much this

also space wallpapers

>>606007679
voted for Z'ha'dum because it feels very underworldy like Pluto, and some mayan shit , you?

If there is life on Europa it will most likely have the following traits:

1) It will resemble a giant squid. Europa has a planet-wide ocean under all that ice, so any hope of amphibian-like, mammal-like, or reptile-like life is void. Squids on earth are among the most powerful creatures in the ocean.

2) It will not have eyes or any photo-sensitive organs. Jupiter being is a long-ass way from the sun, coupled with the fact that there are miles of ice above the water man there will be no light. Hunting will be entirely dependant on echolocation or net-like mouths catching anything in its way.

3) A food chain beginning with plants is possible if there are ocean vents releasing the chemical compounds needed for chemosynthesis.

4) It will, without a doubt, be repulsive to us. Open a new tab and Google 'deep sea creatures'. Go ahead and look at those ugly fucks. Those are so disconnected from what we hold as usual and natural, but they're still earth animals. Life on Europa will be infinitely more foreign to us, and we will have a very difficult time looking at them.

What traits do you think Europan life will have, /b/?

>>606007202
I agree anon.
Even a trace would be amazing just for the implications.
I use the term disappointing to encapsulate the opinion of the probably quite numerous chucklefucks who won't be amazed unless we find something that looks like it escaped from pandora.
If it was bacteria, most of the news would be trying to drive home how important that actually is for the cud chewing brain donors who'll be wondering where et got to.

I...
I'm starting to think 4chan has made me a wee bit cynical in my opinion of my fellow man.

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basic life forms maybe but I absolutely believe there is more evolved life in other galaxies.

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>>606006582

Thanks for that incredible insight anon

>>606009155
that we'll never get to explore which is depressing as shit

>>606008477
I understand the science perfectly. What part of how i just explained the possible presence of water there was incorrect?

I just think their THEORY (bearing in mind thats all anything is) is too far fetched for me. Sure it'd be great if it were true, but i do no believe there is liquid water on a planetary body so far from the sun, without some evidence that isn't pure astrophysical speculation. That is not science. Science is defined as a applicable theory that is repeatable.
Seeing as we don't even know if its applicable in the first place, and its not really repeatable, its not scientific fact. Just the speculation of a few blokes.

>>606004311
I would imagine so. We already have life on here that is completely disconnected from the sun living by thermal vents. I assume the same could be true here.
A more likely candidate for life would be Enceladus actually - check that out.

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>>606008268
it has "probably" a liquid ocean.
We have little to no data on that side.

but It seems probable

>>606007679
Considering the tidal forces from Jupiter there's probably some warm spots where life could develop.

>>606009405
All that typing just to say "I don't understand the science".

>>606004757
this

>>606009405
>but i do no believe there is liquid water on a planetary body so far from the sun

Ice is an amazing insulator, out could keep an ocean from freezing. Plus, tidal energy from Jupiter's gravity would keep any liquid flowing with little time to settle and freeze

>>606009545
I just explained the science to you...

It might be sufficient for you to accept whatever somebody smarter than yourself tells you. I try to understand and make sense of it myself rather than just accepting.

Get outta here mate, you don't belong in science debate.

Side question;

Are there still people today who believe there isn't other life in the universe? Given the mindraping amount of galaxies

>>606008739
Natural immunity to the stench of garlic and outrageous accented voices.

I like your 2 though.
That strikes me as likely in the extreme.
It'd be a good environment for enormous jellyfish with masses of hanging tendrils, blindly fishing for the small and tasty.

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>>606009405

Just stop posting anon, it's cool, nobody cares

>>606005412
This is actually what stirred my curiositis about it. I don't think there is life that quite complex, but that'd be cool as hell

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>>606010302
>>606008739
if there is anything more evolved than fucking unicelular bacterias I'd be damned.

squids can't live with only fumerolles.

>>606008739
The food chain would probably begin with chemosynthetic bacteria-like organisms I would think then build up from there.
What about water pressure that far down (Depending on how deep it goes?)
That would probably have a big effect on the shape / makeup of the organisms

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>>606010302
>giant jellies
Just nuke the damn place now

>>606009905
Ice is an amazing insulator, yes.

But a planetary body that far from the sun. with essentially zero atmosphere and no (Theorized) solid moving core is not going to have liquid water on it at any depth. I'm sorry but in my mind its not logical to speculate that gravitational forces alone are going to allow water to exist.

I understand the idea. I just don't think all of the other aforementioned conditions would allow this to happen.

Thats the opinion you were told by an animation on a youtube video, and that's the one i formulated from the evidence i saw.

Its not an established fact.

>>606009392
This

>>606008739

4 scares me

>>606004311
I can only hope in this universe there are gods. God's like our wildest dreams. Not this microbial shit. But gods in the sense of the elder gods, shit like bosses from video games. Like cthulu or gravemind. Some massive challenge for the human race. Only then. only when humanity is again faced with a challenge of cosmic proportion Will the advances some of us pray for become reality. Humanity needs strife. It needs conflict. That is why we are in a technological stagnation. The day hell fire rains from the sky's or a deep threat emerges is the day we see some shit humanity could only dream of. Or we will exist long enough and eventually become these gods. But by that point or bloodless will be so un controllable and primal,I fear for the rest of the universe and humanity itself because we will become the nightmares we've dreamt of. TLDR all of nature and biology and science dictates that we are the evil in the universe.

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>>606010477
I will, i made my point and you have zero rebuttal.

>>606011110
I agree, but it'll never happen. Humanity is too much at war with itself. There will never be any "unite to expand" amongst us.

>>606010666
No, Satan, the 'squids' would be at the tip of the food chain, while small plankton or plants feed of the compounds, forming the bottom of the chain

>>606004311
Do I think there's life on Europa??
Can jet fuel melt steel beams?!

>Checkmate atheists

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>>606005412
Shit How did I miss that movie??


is it any good?
I was fairly disapointed by interstellar I must confess

>>606011598

disapointed by Interstellar? Have you seen it in theaters? If yes then you're just merely practical joking to get our jimmies rustled. Right?

>>606011598
I liked it
I was never a fan of the "found footage"style, but it was well executed here.
It was a slow burning thriller that was tense and fun to watch. Also, possible space aliens are cool too.

>>606011527
you need to research further about giant squids from the depth, the food chain they feed on is not build from ocean bottom volcanic activities.
deep see furnaroles are very small ecosystem with very little evolved animals.

>>606011926
saw it in a theater, twice.
It's rather good indeed, but I expected much more of it.
A lot of small let downs that ruined the whole thing. Also they skipped a lot of very interesting things (the black scientist that spends 20 years waiting for them in a small ship, you don't learn much about his experience because he dies a few minutes later like a piece of crap) to make room for retarded violin heavy american clapping like the completely ridiculous happy ending or all the eye watering shit going on the maiz farm.

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>>606011430
All it takes is one country (the US or China) to get total control. Science has really only just begun. One nation WILL eventually have an end all be all the makes everything else obsolete. In the same way nukes changed the world post ww2, the next break through if used immediately will create unification through force or whatever. Quantum computing?

>>606012138
True, my speculation lies far from reality, but on a different planet, ecosystems will behave differently.

Fuck, who knows? There might be clouds of single-celled organisms that violently rip thier prey into a mist of blood, but it's all guess and post until we drill down.

So they would be called Europeans?

>>606011031
You clearly have no idea that Jupiter gives off a lot of heat.

>>606004733
Pope has already claimed it's possible for there to be life in space so that's one religion down.

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>>606012997
ahah no worries.
I guess it's fun to imagine what forms could life take in such remote and weird environment.

I'm convinced that in Europa things won't be much evolved. Multicellular organism would already be amazing for something so close to us.

I'm thrilled that it'll probably be explored when I'm still alive
Man will also probably see the sun rise on mars and this fucking gives me the shivers