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Is 3D loli legal under the PROTECT Act? (Which is unconstitutional
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Is 3D loli legal under the PROTECT Act? (Which is unconstitutional anyway)
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I don't fucking know but post moar already, op
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>>571164273
Post more so we can further investigate the topic.
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I am not a lawyer but how I understand the text it is illegal when you can't tell if it is computer generated or not. This is to protect kids so real molester can't just say "the video is computer generated and I haven't done anything wrong" and get away with that.
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Also seems that somebody didn't like this thread and this is not bumping
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>>571164563
>>571164670

I don't have much. Thise guy is pretty much the only one who's work is even decent.

>>571164790

Yeah, it has to be "indistinguishable from a real child" AFAIK.
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TBH most 3D loli looks too realistically proportioned and low-quality from an artistic perspective.
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Anyone else gonna post?
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>>571165624
Something about this pic looks.. off....
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Well thread is going to die soon so guess there is much point to stay. You can't bump this.
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Where can i find more?
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>>571166256
That's all I've got.
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link?
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>>571166457
"Pregposer"
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>>571165912
>>571166013
>>571166119
Got any of these in gifs?

Stupid iPhone
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>>571165624
This bitch be a Niblonian!!!
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>>571166013
>>571166119
Holy shit.
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watch as some one trys to get away with a real pic/gif
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>>571166662
Download vlc app.
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how long until people reenact CP videos with 3D models?
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>>571164273
nope
The PROTECT Act includes prohibitions against illustrations depicting child pornography, including computer-generated illustrations, also known as virtual child pornography.[1][2][4] Provisions against virtual child pornography in the Child Pornography Prevention Act of 1996 had been ruled unconstitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court in its 2002 decision, Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition. However, the provisions of the Protect Act are distinct, since they establish the requirement of showing obscenity as defined by the Miller Test, which was not an element of the 1996 law.[
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creepy eyes

To me, the law should be about protecting actual children from actual abuse.

Arresting and investigating people for drawn or cgi images of fictional characters is not only unconstitutional and big brother levels of prosecuting thought crimes, it also takes resources away from finding actual criminals attacking actual children.

It is like Jack Thompson sating GTA causes school shooting.

Fictional crimes should not be treated as real.
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>>571164790
'Indistinguishable to the average person' I think is what the wording is. Also, if it is based on a real child, it is illegal.
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Fuck, the effort put into these is insane. Where do they come from?
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This is a test of the ip retrieval system
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>>571167436
Well, as we have had better and better selling GTA games, we have had increased numbers of school shooting. Maybe he was on to something.
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The first conviction of a person found to have violated the sections of the act relating to virtual child pornography, Dwight Whorley of Virginia, was upheld in a 2-1 panel decision of the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals in December 2008.[12] This decision was consistent with the U.S. Supreme Court ruling in Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition in which the Supreme Court held that virtual child pornography was protected free speech, provided that the virtual depictions are not obscene. Obscenity, including obscene depictions of children, either virtual or real, is unprotected speech. (Whorley was also convicted of offenses in connection with pornographic depictions of real children.)

Also in, 2008, Christopher Handley pled guilty to charges related to the PROTECT Act, in exchange for a six month plea deal. He was facing a maximum sentence of up to twenty years. While not convicted by a jury, he was the first person charged—and convicted—under the PROTECT Act for the lone act of possessing art deemed obscene. Both prosecutors and defense attorneys noted that the plea deal was due to the high risk of a constitutional challenge, and the federal government agreed that Handley would not be required to register as a sex offender.
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>>571167513
Now that last bit, I agree with.
It is a threat of assault on an actual child.
That should be illegal.
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Why wouldn't the government then let virtual go, would it not satisfy those who otherwise would go out and create child porn irl?
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>>571167815
eh. all thats changed is that we've had a few recent high scores and the media has loved to cover them more than ever
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loli, 3d or not, is in a grey area
you can be arrested and prosecuted for it but depending on your lawyer and the judge will depend if you suffer consequences other than being in the news

basically if its a pic of a girl getting slammed and your lawyer cant make a good case as to why your protected under the first admendment then you prolly will get in trouble. but if its just a suggestive photo youll be fine
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MODS MODS MODS
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>>571167436
Agree. There should not be thought crimes.
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oh noes an animated lines on a screen that looks like a girl and vag etc

wtf is wrong with people
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this stuff looks creepy it fails turning me on. nn models > loli manga > loli pics > this 3d stuff
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Guess continue just like before. Those law texts are always made so you can interpret them as you wish. No matter what you do you will always be breaking some laws
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>>571168774
1984 much
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>>571168894
they believe that by liking loli youll evolve into kidnapping and fucking real children
because you know whatever you like in videogames, books, and porn means youll do those things in real life
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https://fapis.com/entry.html?id=59289
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This should be illegal like regular CP. This is just pleasing the child molesters/paedophiles out there.
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>>571169459
Im sure drinking a milkshake also pleases them but just like these images, no one is getting hurt
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>>571169459
Yeah, because pedophiles having no safe outlet to express their desires is gonna end up so good for the children.
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>>571169459
Forbid air too. Air pleases and helps us to live
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>>571169459
no victim, no crime
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>inb4 404
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>>571169983
There was a paper on that, it was advocating something about using cp/loli/whatever to try to curb child molestation rates. Something about porn and a reversed effect on the libido or something.

>>571170068
But thought crime is real. Just like you mentally rape girls when you look at porn. Remember, there are people who believe that shit.
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>>571169273
Obviously. Every pedo wants to fuck their kids just like every normal father wants to fuck their kids when they become adult.
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>>571170540
well its no secret that rape has gone down since the internet was invented
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/r/FYx6EF
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>>571171161
I remember suggesting once that instead of sending pedos to jail they make a closed community to study them. Both males and females, make a working community, little different from others, but just pedos and surveillance equipment and what not to learn more about them.
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>>571169983
Fucking this
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>>571171812
fuck you
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You're a fuckin faggot pedo
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>>571172343
Fuck off
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>>571170612
Are you butt frustrated you fucking pedo cock sucker
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>>571172343
>>571172538
Ignored. I'm not gay
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>>571172467
eat a fuckin cock you pathetic kike child molester
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>>571171287
anon motherless didnt work here
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Where is the uncensored versions?
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>>571172720
People are entitled to their opinions and likes.
>if people can be gay people can like younger girls
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>>571172890
There aren't any.
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>>571164273
ANY OF YOU HAVING THE FUCKING SAUCE?!
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Requesting Clementine and more in general.

Also, banning pixels and vectors is irrational and a bad sign. You can't define what a 3D model is by what you recognize it as. It's not a loli, it's a drawing of a loli.

So no, I don't think it's illegal. Except maybe in Australia or something, maybe even the UK.
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>>571171812
I think it already exists, but it's not just for pedos, they've put ordinary people too. I think it's called the USA.
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>>571172890
torchan
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>>571173227
Guy by the name of PregPoser I think.
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>>571173227
it is here >>571169447 or you can look for the pregposer torrent in /t/ or look up one of the several names he goes as and look from there.
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>>571173390
>>571173406
Nice, thanks
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>>571169459
What's wrong with pleasing a pedophile? And even more retardedly you imply a medium for relieving urges would actually make child molesters molest more kids? Jesus, you're dumb.

Also, someone who watches this is no more likely to rape a kid than someone into midgets will rape a midget.
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>>571166595
Name?
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>>571173327
Well, that more or less is Florida. But then again, that state is a cesspool.
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The best thing to do is say these are legal images of legal models, real or imagined. There are 18 yos who look like that.
US law prohibits the distribution of anything that vaguely resembles a prepubescent person, whatever that is.
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>>571174870
Australia straight up bans A cup breasts from appearing in pornography.
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>>571174870
This

Max hardcore went to jail for pretending he was fucking 12 year olds in his porn.
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>>571174849
This more or less shows why there are no uncensored pics of this model. The model was made with no genitalia. As is all of the female models he does.
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>>571175073
As well as pretending to be a minor in any way. Such as no 'Catholic Schoolgirl' porn, regardless of tit size.

>>571174870
vaguely resembling isn't exactly the right term, but yeah, it isn't exactly clear on the matter either.
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>>571175151
Based on Max Extreme 4, the city of Los Angeles in 1998 charged him with child pornography and distribution of obscenity. The fact that the actress was over the age of 18 was not disputed; they brought charges based solely on the fact that the actress was portraying a character who was underage. Just before the case was brought to trial in 2002, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled (in Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition) that the statute prohibiting adults from portraying children in films and books was unconstitutional. Based on this ruling, the child pornography charges against Little were dismissed. The misdemeanor charge of distribution of obscenity was retained, but the jury failed to reach a verdict. An additional obscenity charge was subsequently levied against him by L.A., again resulting in a hung jury. Little commented after the trial that it "was a frivolous waste of public resources."
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Sharing this video

http://p-a-stebi-n.com/wvB5iGKY
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>>571175495
Max may be asshole but that is retarded
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>>571175151
Actually, I think this is what I was thinking of when I mentioned Aus having the can't pretend to be a minor in porn law. The US has it.

>>571175342
Oddly, this game is illegal in the US, but not >>571175176
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well that was all clem I had
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>>571175649
I would have loved to see him behind bars anyways. Shame doing so would have set a very bad precedent. The man is about as much of a scum bag as you can get.
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>>571168595
back to tumblr
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>>571175682
How exactly is it illegal? Because they are supposedly based on real kids? There are no such references in game. All those claims come outside game
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>>571175970
Did he ever force an 'actress' to do a scene with him?

If it was their choice ...feminism win. lol
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This is good.
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>>571176085
They don't have to be made in game, it just has to be able to be shown that he used a real child for at least one of the models.

Really, though, any of this coming up in a court case, likely means they are wasting resources that are better used fighting actual crime.
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Faggots
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>>571176365
I don't think anyone would want to waste their time in case like that. It would be a total joke imo
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>>571176157
There are a lot of seriously shady things that go on behind a lot of the porn industry. He's a known bad element, coercion or not.
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>>571176690
In any case its wrong to bend laws and ignore facts just so you can get someone who you hate jailed.
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>>571175756
saucee??
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Holy shit! CGI pron will be undistinguishable from the real world in a few years!
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>>571176365
Ehh fuck I've been wanting to get that VN but felt iffy about it for fear of illegality. Is there any realistic way I'd get caught downloading it?

I just want an outlet goddammit
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>>571176484
i would knock her across the room from cumming so hard into her. good stuff, anon.
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>>571176954
Just a repost. I posted all the clem pics I had. No idea where it was from
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>>571176085
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what program or game can i download to make these movies?
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>>571176871
That it is, and would have set bad precedents for doing so in the future. It shouldn't matter who is on stand, just what the evidence says was done. Nothing else should matter, and justice should stay blind and carry equally.
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>>571177285
Pregposer I think.
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>>571177261
i fucking KNEW some of the screenshots from that weirdass game looked familiar.
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>>571176982
It is not likely to get you in trouble, just download it from their site for free. They don't care, where they are it is legal.
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I remember one guy who said that the case against his loli porn was overturned because they couldn't prove that the images he had was actually harming any person
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>>571177261
with Frizl added
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>>571177261
how the fuck did he got a picture of a kid in BDSM?
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------------------------------A MESSAGE FROM ANONYMOUS LEGION--------------------------

Potential soon-to-be child pornography thread reported.

As a proud member of Anonymous working with other members in anonymous with #OPInnocence #OPPedoHunt I report all threads that depict / and otherwise sexualize children or show questionable content.

This is it. It is over. This is the end of your disgusting parade of shameful, abusive imagery. As a member of Anonymous, it is my duty to defend 4chan from the villainous scum like you people. Pedophilia must end.
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If you help, support, produce, assist or in any other way endorse child sexual abuse we will find you.

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Expect us.
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>>571177604
Laura is a child model.
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>>571177604
candydoll does it.
they ship russian preteens to japan, take lewd pics and ship them back.
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>>571177604
>>571177604
>>571177604
>>571177604
>>571177604
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>>571177719
nice pasta, man
give it 2/10 for accuracy
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as new as they come
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>>571177604
That is from a child modeling agency, which I will not name. The outfits are meant to be cute, and there is nothing pornographic or objectively sexual about the content.

But posting it gets you a permaban here.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCrqoUJ95RI
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>>571177935
Best Anonymous copypasta coming through.
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>>571177719
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>>571177719
>implying we give a fuck
Top kek fag
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>>571174849
where the fuck are her legs
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>>571177604
I'm pretty sure you could find some on 7chan, if you looked for it.
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>>571177983
>>571177816
>>571177779
interesting
i did not know that
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>>571178073
Hahah, thanks
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>>571177719
LOL LOOK GUYS HE POSTED IT AGAIN

>>571177604
hello newfriend
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>>571178120
They're bent behind the chair.
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>>571177719
Kill your self faggot
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>>571178120
right wtf
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>>571175682
ive played underalterbach
>>571175176
is this a game too?
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>>571177983
That depends which sets you are looking at, or I'm thinking of a different agency. Some were quite ... not so innocent.

>>571178120
Knowing this artist, she could have had them cut off or something. He does do that sort of thing. A good amount of his stuff is torture/rape related.
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>>571177719
>tips fedora

The only thing illegal is child porn. as it should be.
if its animated loli, its just that animated. And being animated is legal.

Also, 'anonymous legion' can never be taken seriously until its members stop wearing guy fawkes masks and fedoras at the same time.
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>>571177526
Name of game/site?
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>>571177816
That implies the girls aren't aspiring models who willingly do this and enjoy the experience (and money for their college fund).

Here is one of the more famous ones, grown up (i.e. NOT a child) and still modeling. Except now she is full-on sexy.
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>>571178462
see >>571178404
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>>571177719
I've seen this pasta since 2012, How much longer am I supposed to expect you, anomalous?
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>>571178404
It's just porn made in Source Film Maker of Clementine from The Walking Dead games.
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>>571164273
itt retarded pedos
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>>571177719
does that mean...
its teim?
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>>571167436
>Arresting and investigating people for drawn or cgi images of fictional characters is not only unconstitutional and big brother levels of prosecuting thought crimes, it also takes resources away from finding actual criminals attacking actual children.


I pretty much hate pediphiles and strongly oppose it.

The thought to prosecuting the thought crime is to ward the behavior completely. Porn can cause people to change and develop new sexual attractions and we want there to be no sexual attractions to minors. Some people are more wired that way, but others develop it as a fetish. If allowed to prosper, underage porn would cause large numbers of additional pedophiles who can only satisfy their craving in real life through destroying another person's psyche. It simply can't be tolerated.
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>>571178827
[citation needed]
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>>571178462
dont listen to these ppl dog they just tryna get u into dirty troubles
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>>571172936
You can "like" anything you want, so long as you don't infringe on the rights of others.
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>>571178929
30 years ago people said the same about homosexuals...
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Stylized is where it's at daaaaawg
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>>571178929
>mfw porn does more than require tissues next to me
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>>571178929
How about you leave those things to scientists who actually analyze real data and make conclusions of it instead of pulling shit from their asses?
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>>571179000
kekked
>MLA format
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>>571179000

Trips.
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>>571179617
moree
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>>571178915

yes, yes it does
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>>571178738
some more
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>>571178929
Flawless logic - except that not only have pedophilic relations been going on long before porn, until modern times they were basically the norm. People would marry some girl before puberty, but (usually) wait until she hit the ripe old age of 9-11 to fuck her. And even with these standards there were always people who went "too far" relative to the norm. Your argument makes no sense because we know that pedophiles, ephebophiles, child molesters and sexual predators will exist regardless of whether porn exists.
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